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  1. #1
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    Default Stallion shopping for an uphill, 16.1h or smaller stallion with a HUGE stride and...

    a very, very, very free shoulder AND at least a half a dozen babies on the ground and in competition over fences...and he has to be available AI/TS (cooled or frozen) or located in the south east or mid-atlantic.

    Know of one? Gotta have some TB blood in him, too.
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    Edgar's Escudo would probably fit the bill.
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    Here is a link to Again and Again's pedigree:
    http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=10451665
    He is a full brother to Jackie Blue, an Olympic show jumper and Ruxton, Hall of Fame and many times USEF champion working hunter. He has grand prix dressage offspring as well as winners over fences. He is more than half thoroughbred, from top sport bloodlines.
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    What about Candillo Z - his one son sold for 200.000 Euros at just 2.5 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwynnnorman View Post
    a very, very, very free shoulder AND at least a half a dozen babies on the ground and in competition over fences...and he has to be available AI/TS (cooled or frozen) or located in the south east or mid-atlantic.

    Know of one? Gotta have some TB blood in him, too.
    Why location is important to you when you accept frozen semen ?
    Just curious.
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    The only one that comes to mind is ROC USA and he is WAY too big for what you want.
    Last edited by EquineLVR; Nov. 20, 2008 at 01:38 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by andy.smaga View Post
    Why location is important to you when you accept frozen semen ?
    Just curious.
    I would assume since it says OR that being close to her is for a stallion that would do live cover instead.
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    my guess would be wanting to see the stallion in person before deciding
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    OMG! I love Again and Again's dam lines.

    Too bad you need foals on the ground, because Triple Twist would have been a great addition to your program. He's only 15.2 and he brings so many great jumping TB lines in his pedigree.
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    What about Fair Play the dutch stallion? He is well proven, not big, great mover with good jumping offspring as well as dressage.



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    May I suggest Regulus, standing at Dreamtime Farm in Kentucky - www.dreamtimefarm.com.
    He has already produced a number of eventers (thru Prelim and moving up), hunters and dressage horses ( thru GP). In short, he has everything you are looking for - huge stride, athletic ability over fences (both himself and his offspring), outstanding rideability and a free shoulder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by not again View Post
    Here is a link to Again and Again's pedigree:
    http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=10451665
    He is a full brother to Jackie Blue, an Olympic show jumper and Ruxton, Hall of Fame and many times USEF champion working hunter. He has grand prix dressage offspring as well as winners over fences. He is more than half thoroughbred, from top sport bloodlines.
    First off, is this horse still alive, just curious I know OP says frozen but he would be 30 so I was wondering. Definitely has a free shoulder, I am LOVING the pictures, WOW!



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    How about Dacaprio?

    He's not too big, has great shoulder freedom, and while he's mostly a dressage sire, he's got mature offspring in the H/J world. Plus, there's TB influence in his pedigree and he's standing in KY.
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    Regulus is lovely, but he is 16.2 and Wynn is looking for something 16.1 or under. Keep the suggestions coming as I too am interested!
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    Default Blackberry Ridge

    The stallion Snowford Bellman is a star in the breed. His son Fergal(Winmaur Sargent Pepper) has had fewer offspring but he is just plain fun and a mrvelous jumper. Both have about 1/8th+ TB to One Wing and Final Problem. PatO

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    What about Shine?

    It doesn't have alot of info in his site, but he I know he has offspring showing.

    He is 16.1 I think? I know of one showing by Shine that is a fancy hunter.

    There isn't a lot of Stallions that are 16.1!



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    This 2006 grandson of Again and Again named Wizard WF was recently licensed:
    http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=1...lood=10&quota=
    He obviously has no offspring on the ground or on the way yet, but is going to finish out about 16.0 hands and is slightly more than 50% xx/ox. Superior sport pedigree however.
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    not east coast, but my stallion might fit your bill otherwise, he is only 15.2hh (should finish at 15.3 as he is bum high again)
    There is plenty of TB blood in the Trakehner lines.
    He will be shown in the jumper ring next season under Isauro Flores.



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