I don't think it's a strong market right now. At the Barrets TB sale in SoCal at the end of October many pregnant thoroughbreds sold for $1,000. A lot of people are cutting back on breeding.
But aren't there always ten billion quatrillion Thoroughbred mares for sale at any given time? (OK, maybe not *quite* that many -- but a LOT!!) Just seems like the supply always exceeds the demand for TBs. I could be wrong -- completely NOT my market.... just an outside observer.
I think mares in foal to a well known stallion would ALWAYS sell better, regardless of the market. I've purchased several mares this year, and I haven't seen much of a change in the market for GOOD quality warmblood mares. But I agree with the above comment that there seem to always be ample TB mares for sale.
The market is fairly sluggish -- people are looking at feeding through the winter. A bred mare might be easier to sell, but the choice of stallion is taken away from the buyer and might not really suit them. Thoroughbred mares are available, but like any registry or breed, a quality mare is one you might have to search for more diligently.
I don't think it is very good. We are currently trying to sell our mare who is middle range age, very fertile, excellent mom, registered with top german registry and is in foal to one of the most desireable dressage stallions of right now and we are not asking much more than what her foal will be worth.
So, unless it is just us, no I dont think it is good.
We too have a young MMB HOL mare. Good breeding. Good size. Ours is priced in the 4 figures and we have had a lot of lookers but nothing in the way of offers yet. Its amazing to see the change in sales.
Over this past year I have had soooooo many TOP show mares that need to be retired (injured) offered for free to me (I pay expenses and get the foal) that I could not imagine BUYING a mare. IMMHO (for what it is worth), brood mares are not worth much $$$'s.
Now that I have said that, I will admit that some years ago, I did purchase the dam of my Traveller (Sugarbrook Blue Pacific). After she had Traveller i just had to buy her. Good move on my part. But its the only brood mare I have ever purchased. Sandy
No nibbles that I've seen. I have one I've been on the fence about selling for awhile and finally decided to go ahead and give it a shot. I'm not going to bust the bank advertising, but I did put up one ad. My absolute fear with trying to sell in foal is that somebody will buy wanting the FOAL but not really the mare. And then after the foal is born what happens to the mare?
Anyway, I'm figuring on no interest and planning on starting the mare back up and putting her into competition next year after the foal is weaned. I think odds are hopefully better of getting her a good home that way. My assumption is that there is more demand for a nice, well bred, well built mare under saddle then for breeding but that is just a hunch at this point.
I think it depends on the mare's age, pedigree, conformation, and ect. We just sold an older mare with no problems at all that did have breeding issues, but purchaser's hubby is an equine reproduction specialist and was not worried about the issues at all with full disclosure of what we had done and what we knew about her history. I think it also depends on if you price it to sell in this current market too.
I've seen some very good deals on broodmares for sale, pennies on the dollar of what they should be worth. It's not a good time to be a seller, but it's a good time to be a buyer!
My absolute fear with trying to sell in foal is that somebody will buy wanting the FOAL but not really the mare. And then after the foal is born what happens to the mare?
I wouldn't have thought of this, maybe in this situation you could make an in-utero option.
I've also seen cases where the mare is nice, but she wasn't bred to the nicest stallion, so I'd have been more inclined to want the mare but not the foal. I've been watching one in particular, who is a nice mare, but in foal to a very mediocre stallion. If she were open, I'd already have snatched her up.
I have one for sale too. I too did not consider what if they want the foal but not the mare. If she does sale I'll make sure I have first rights back to her should something go wrong. Thank you for the tip.
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It can work the other way around too, people wanting the mare but not the foal she is carrying.
Last month I saw a lovely TB broodmare at the Barretts sale Flipped Her Halo mentioned. The mare was large and heavy boned - reminded me of WB. For a short spell of insanity I really was tempted to bid on her and was already mentally pairing her up w/ WB jumper stallions. But what stopped me was the fact that she was already in foal, in this case to an young unproven TB stallion, and I didn't want the worry and expense of the TB foal. I was saddened to read the sales results two days later, and see she didn't even make the $1,000 minimum bid.
I have to concurr that the market for broodmares is not good.
I've run across a mare that piqued my interest so I inquired about her. 30K will buy you said 19 yr old mare. I don't think they really want to part with her but all of their aged broodies are this price!