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    Default "Lighter-type" Voltaire sons/grandsons standing at stud?

    I know about Vallado (yummy!) at Silver Creek, but can anyone name some others?
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    I haven't seen this one in person, but saw him on their website the other day:

    http://www.charlotfarm.com/viva%20voltaire.htm
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    I have one, he is only 6 months old though



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    I love Mezcalero, but not sure he is a lighter type. But a nice type, non-the-less.

    We have a coming 2 yo by Voltaire that stallion owners, stallion developers and inspectors, who have seen, have asked us to wait before we decide to geld. He is KWPN, out of a lovely Canadian TB mare. His name is Corsaire D.

    I recently saw a really typey beautiful young one based out of Europe, but his name escapes me right now. Let me think about it and maybe it will come to me.
    Robin Stewart
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    Concorde B is a lovely, typey, Voltaire grandson. http://www.risingstarfarm.net/Concorde%20B.htm



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    Wamberto is a Voltaire grandson with Lucky Boy also in the damline. I would not say he is a very light type, but nicely balanced. http://www.hasslerdressage.com/stallions/wamberto1.html
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    Winston - he comes from the same lines as Vallado - I almost imported him myself -lovely boy. I believe he is now approved BWP. He also has an approved full brother named Valentino.

    Couple others are Uccello and Toronto.



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    Quote Originally Posted by EquineLVR View Post
    Winston - he comes from the same lines as Vallado - I almost imported him myself -lovely boy. I believe he is now approved BWP. He also has an approved full brother named Valentino.

    Couple others are Uccello and Toronto.
    Thanks! I will track down some more info. on these guys. I love Vallado's "type", just looking to see what all else is out there.

    Mezcalero-Love him, have a mare in foal to him for 2009, actually. But for the particular mare I'm thinking of, he is just too heavy.

    I wasn't familiar with Concorde B, either, but will look into that.

    Stallions don't have to be standing here in the U.S., I'm trying to get a comprehensive list...
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    Zirocco Blue looks quite nice



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    Quote Originally Posted by EquineLVR View Post
    Winston - he comes from the same lines as Vallado - I almost imported him myself -lovely boy. I believe he is now approved BWP. He also has an approved full brother named Valentino.

    Couple others are Uccello and Toronto.
    All at Statestud Celle and I love Valentino and Ucello, both have very nice loos movement aswell as jump. Picture in celle stallion book of one of them is really bad though. I may even have footage of Valentino.
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    Winston is a gelding.



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    Oliver - now based in the UK but they do export semen. Lovely horse and fantastic temperament. Interestingly he just produced the champion dressage foal at one of the UK KWPN keurings this summer

    http://www.holdenfolddressage.co.uk/stallions.html



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    I am completely smitten with my Vallado foal, and plan to repeat the cross hoping for a filly in the future.

    Wilton is another Now or Never son available Frozen.

    Vulkano is one that has caught my eye before, He appears to be showing in Europe currently too. He is Voltaire- Pit I- Grannus

    Also there is Solitar, (Voltaire - Libero H- Ulster) who is thought of as a good all arounder, and I've always liked Larino by Concorde.



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    Isn't there a Cicera's Icewater (ex Voltaire dam) stallion in Virginia somewhere? Don't know where he's approved but if memory serves otherwise I believe he was quite modern in type?
    Liz
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    Idocus is a Voltaire grand son and he is not very heavy. He produces nice types.



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    Thanks guys; I have quite a list now to look into. This is just for planning pretty far into the future, but I do love stallion shopping. I'm looking to produce upper level jumpers, so that is of course a factor in my decision. I've read from several sources that crossing Voltaire on some of the Pilot lines seems to be a good nick. However, I would think that temperament would become a possible huge issue?
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    Vulkano under Markus Ehning - Hearing a lot of goo things.
    And sorry - did not mean all at Celle in my earlier post, but Ucello and Valentino are.
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    I don't know if he'll be standing next year, but Amazing is Balou/Voltaire. His owner posts here.



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    I am a huge fan of Tricolore (Voltaire x Samber) standing in Canada. I think he's probably one of the lesser-known and highly under-used Voltaire sons.

    http://www.maplebrookfarm.ca

    My mare had an absolutely gorgeous colt by him that was everything I was hoping for out of the cross- lovely topline, excellent hindquarter with *tons* of push from behind, the "sitting" ability for dressage but with an incredible jump on him as well.

    I sold this colt before he was weaned and had offers on him after that. The current owner has had multiple people comment that the horse would be worth huge bucks in the hunter ring, but alas, she's a dressage rider!

    Edited to add: one of the subsequent offers was from an established Grand Prix dressage trainer, so the colt was definitely a hit for multiple-disciplines (which was one of my goals for the cross).

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    Last edited by Spectrum; Oct. 10, 2008 at 04:46 PM. Reason: add'l information



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    Thanks Spacely! Amazing may do a couple of breedings in 2009-I plan to take him in the spring for collection training. As of now, I am hoping to offer him to the public for 2010 and present him for approvals as well. Website plans are in the works, but in the meantime there is still a great video of him on Silver Creek's site under the sales horses.



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