Hunter Gurus -- Is an Eggbutt Acceptable in the Hunter Ring?
I know that dee rings are what is in fashion, but is a judge in the hunter ring going to look askance at an eggbutt? We have a d-ring Pessoa magic relaxation bit for my guy that he goes great in, but the top of the D rubs his cheeks and an eggbutt presumably won't. Thanks.
"I don't want to sound like a broken record here, but why is it that a woman will forgive homicidal behavior in a horse, yet be highly critical of a man for leaving the toilet seat up?" Dave Barry
eggbutts are fine. Any respectable judge isn't going to judge you on what's in your horses mouth as long as it is safe and within reason. It is afterall, just another version of a mild snaffle. Don't worry. Your horse's comfort comes first. As long as he performs just as well in the eggbutt as in the D it's not going to matter. I've shown in loose rings, Ds, and eggbutts. It's never made a difference.
No. D ring or Full cheek; eggbuts are not in fashion.
When did riding become about fashion? Why is fashion even remotely important when it comes to bitting a horse?
Use what works. End.of.story.
Yes, some bits are unconventional and a judge *may* mark you down for using one but it's not necessary and honestly, a judge should have so much more to watch than what bit is in your horses mouth (unless there is a question based on the ride). (for the record, and eggbutt is NOT unconventional)
I wish more people would spend time reading and remembering the rules vs shopping catalogs and following fashion trends
OP-you may be the only one with an eggbutt but who cares. If your pony goes best in it then by all means use it. I used a full cheeck and an eggbutt for years! I only use a D now because the mouthpiece I like (JP french link) was on the shelf in a D. If it had been there in something else I might have bought one of those.
I personally show in an eggbutt French link. While it may not be "in fashion," it hasn't hurt our showing any. My gelding walked out of the ring with 2 seconds, 2 thirds and Reserve Champ in Baby Greens. If it is what works best for your horse, go with it. If that is really what the judge notices, then someone might need to rethink their job.
D's, eggbutts, Full Cheeks, pelhams and loose rings are all traditional bits that shouldn't be marked down for in the hunters. I happen to think Fulmers are traditional as well, but they are so hard to find its hardly worth mentioning.
An eggbutt is totally acceptable, is not untraditional, and I have shown my pony in one the entire time I've owned him and never once been penalized or had anyone mention it. There's a difference between an unconvential bit in the hunter ring that is unconventional because of the action of the bit (i.e., a gag, a kimberwicke, etc.) and a bit that clearly has a snaffle mouthpiece and just happens to have a different shape to the ring-- like an eggbutt. I don't know any circumstance where a snaffle mouth eggbutt would be penalized.
In other news, I don't think I've ever seen a loose ring. That I would think maybe is an unconventional bit, because the bit does work differently than a snaffle (it's not harsher, but having the rings free to move does cause a different action). Given that it's a pretty mellow bit, I don't know that a judge would penalize for it-- but I can *see* the argument for why a loose ring is untraditional. I don't see an argument for why an eggbutt is untraditional. It's basically a D-ring snaffle with a slightly different shape.
Okay, so I was being a smart ass, truth be told... I wouldn't go into the hunter ring at a big show in an eggbutt bit. I would use something very conventional/fashionable like a d-ring or a full cheek.
Jumpers, it doesn't matter, but when it comes down to being judged by the Judge, I wouldn't take any chances.
LOL. I am young, but not THAT young. When I first started showing, rust breeches were just going out of style and those light grayish ones were coming in. BUT I also started showing APHA not open hunters, and it may be a bit of a breed/style type of thing. I know everyone says pelhams used to be *the* bit-- but I don't remember it that way, and it may be my breed show background. Gosh, we did all KINDS of "taboo" things! Black polish on light hooves. Green coats. Pinning numbers on. Non-fitted pads. I don't recall seeing loose rings at all, but I guess they clearly were out there. I just don't remember them.