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    Default Do the Judges Loose Their Marbles Over Anky and Isabelle?

    That is the question posted by freestyle designer Karen Robinson in her latest blog from Hong Kong. Karen never minces words! Here are some excerpts, but do read the entire blog.

    http://gaitpost-karen-robinson.blogspot.com

    You know, I really thought that the right teams won the right medals the other night, and I was almost lulled into thinking that the judges were only a teeny bit in extra love or extra hate with a few horses. But things went sideways in the Grand Prix Speciale. I could swear they all lose their marbles when Anky or Isabell come in the ring. Here is what I saw, and here is what the judges seem to have seen:
    Anky in the Grand Prix Speciale – according to Anky afterwards, Salinero has shown himself to be a horse that isn’t affected by heat or humidity, and he was every bit as edgy as in the team test. But this time she was going for individual glory, so there was nothing to do but give ‘er. The price she paid was that he broke into canter in the half pass left, got a very high croup (really almost a little buck) at the start of the ones on centre line, and I could have sworn I saw a mistake in the twos. In all the extended trots Salinero was visibly shorter on the left hind – something I didn’t really notice in the GP. So how did her score creep up to 74.96%, above the first test? She received four fours and a three for the half pass; three sevens and two eights for the ones on centre line (one of the eights coming from B – I’m sorry Mr. Mandi (HUN) but that bouncing bum was really obvious from the side); three sevens and two sixes for the twos, which I guess could be interpreted as the judges saying ‘there was a mistake but it was just a little one’. A little mistake that might get a bit more of a frown if it had been another horse.
    Isabell in the Speciale – It wasn’t just the judges that went sideways last night. Satchmo did too, right after going up, and right before going backwards – almost to the fence at C. It happened when he was asked for the piaffe at G. Isabell was calling it a spook and saying she didn’t know what caused it, but that weren’t no spook, Isabell. That was Satchmo giving you the finger. So how did the judges react? For the piaffe, three ones and two twos. And for the transitions in and out? Two zeroes (she wisely decided to keep moving forward once she got him actually going again), two twos…and what did Olympic judging virgin Gary Rockwell give her? I dare you to guess, because you can’t. A SIX! Gary, for heaven’s sake! You’ve been the generous judge for the most part at this competition, and bless you for that. But giving a six for something that wasn’t executed (‘transitions from collected walk to piaffe and from piaffe to passage)? That is just wacked.
    Speaking of Ravel, Steffen said after the Speciale that he would like to “dedicate this ride to Debbie”. Gag me. I felt so sorry for Debbie after the Grand Prix test that I couldn’t bring myself to go to the mixed zone to hear her comments, much less ask her any questions. I only saw the last bit of her test, but what I did see was truly bizarre. She had the strangest pirouettes, and her last extended trot was more of a ‘fluffy passage trot’. I think people should just kind of shut up about whether Brentina was lame or not, and let’s just ignore that Dutch snuggle bunny Fouarges, who has been quoted (much to Debbie’s publicly expressed horror) as saying she should have been ashamed of herself to even go in the ring. Let’s just let it go. Brentina was not tortured, and Debbie is not an irresponsible horse woman. But Steffen dedicating his ride to her? That’s just sappy.
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    The last part of Will Connell's blog is also interesting in this regard:

    "Meanwhile, rumours are abounding of a meeting involving the Dressage Ground Jury and other officials and some of the nations competing after the Grand Prix Special last night. Perhaps details will come out later...I feel like I’m writing a spy novel full of twists, turns, secrets and double dealing, not a sporting diary."


    http://www.equestrianteamgbr.co.uk/n...ail.php?id=181
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    Those are all great comments! I missed her blog, I'll have to go and read more!!!
    Yeah I agree that Gary should really be on the list for complaints for the judging, giving Debbie a 66% doesn't make him look much better than the rest of the crowd!



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    I don't know this girl or lady, but she sure can put a lot of nonsens in just a few words.

    And I also think that it's not very wise for her clients to make such statements about the judges.

    A bigger problem however is that she probably can't see if a horse is uneven/unsound/lame.



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    Quote Originally Posted by freestyle2music View Post
    <snip> She sure can put a lot of nonsens in just a few words.
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    Well, when one is that convinced of the genius of one's blog, there isn't much point in attempting to suggest otherwise, is there.



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    Wow. That is one awful blog! It borders on nasty half the time, and arrogant the rest.

    I'm horrified she is a fellow Canadian!

    However, I'm loving the other Canadian blog written by the assistant team manager lady whose name I've forgotten... hers is upbeat and genuine. As is Will Connel's, the Team GB "Team Leader".



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    Ice dancing, anyone?
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    Am I missing something? Did Gary Rockwell give Isabel a 6 or not on that movement that was not executed? Why is it wrong to SPEAK UP about garbage like that? Would someone like to defend that example of scoring (mind you, I did and do defend Isabel's placing, because otherwise it was an excellent test). But how can one judge's scores be so out of whack - not to mention the German judge's scoring throughout?

    And Debbie's test WAS weird. It was a complete aberration, and I am sure she would be the first to say so.



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    The 'rumor of a meeting' was, I believe, that a couple teams complained that cameras were moved during the middle of the competition, resulting in different conditions for some fo the competitors. The complaint was dismissed. It was, I think, a legitimate complaint.



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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeLawyer View Post
    Am I missing something? Did Gary Rockwell give Isabel a 6 or not on that movement that was not executed? Why is it wrong to SPEAK UP about garbage like that? Would someone like to defend that example of scoring (mind you, I did and do defend Isabel's placing, because otherwise it was an excellent test). But how can one judge's scores be so out of whack - not to mention the German judge's scoring throughout?

    And Debbie's test WAS weird. It was a complete aberration, and I am sure she would be the first to say so.

    I agree, and will add I find the blog refreshing because at least it tells it like it is. Period. No white washing and PC crap we hear from the media. Why Debbie went in the ring is way beyond me; completely weird. Even the Danes were watching her in warm up commenting on her not being a threat to them score wise. <argh> Wake up and smell the coffee.

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    I really don't get the Anky "thing". When I watched her ride at the WEG's at Aachen - I just couldn't believe the scores she received for her Freestyle and don't this time either. She says she's retiring but time will tell on that - we've seen quite afew FEI Dressage riders say they are retiring (one more than once) and then voila! they are back .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ise@ssl View Post
    I really don't get the Anky "thing". When I watched her ride at the WEG's at Aachen - I just couldn't believe the scores she received for her Freestyle and don't this time either. She says she's retiring but time will tell on that - we've seen quite afew FEI Dressage riders say they are retiring (one more than once) and then voila! they are back .
    Me either. But at least after 8 years of gold medals and top scores, he finally seems to be strong enough to passage evenly without looking unlevel.

    I quite liked Bonfire, but I don't get the appeal of Salinero. I always feel like his legs are going in crazy directions.
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