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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUteamrider View Post
    Again with Facinated's "poooorrrr wiiiittttlllleeee ggiiirrrlll" speal. No one called this brat anything she didn't disearve or that wasn't true. And what do you care? She didn't hear or read any of it, she didn't know of it, and it didn't do any damage to her.

    And "little girl" is a misnomer - she is around 12 years old. She's almost a teenager and old enough to know better or to be taught -very quckly - about respect for other's property and animals.

    I'm still shocked and amazed that you continue to defend someone that you a) don't know, b) won't ever have contact with, c) has done things that would get adults arrested immediately, d) has no empathy as she let her grandmother suffer worrying about her dogs, and e) OBVIOUSLY premeditated everything she did, as she LIED to her gran about walking the dogs and instead went to cause trouble.

    I really hope you never reproduce. Your spawn will apparently get away with anything and everything they do. God forbid you abuse them by disciplining them, right??
    Refresh my memory. Where have I defended the child's behavior?



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    You implied that the reason for the brat's behavior was the OP's anti-social personality, which you had absolutely no basis to comment on and makes absolutely no difference in the outcome.

    You advocated every avenue but something that may actually fix the problem and keep the girl away from the OP's property. "Talk to her parents before doing anything else" - well, obvioulsy they're worthless when it comes to setting boundaries.

    You don't have to stand on a rooftop yelling "THE GIRL IS INNOCENT" to defend her. You have continuously taken the indefensible position of blaming everything and everyone in this girl's life for her behavior.

    When is she old enough to own up? What if she were 13? What if she were 21? Would she be old enough to be responsible for her actions then?

    I vote that when she's old enough to mouth off to an adult and then premeditate revenge, she's old enough to be punished for the things she does. And HARSHLY.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUteamrider View Post
    You implied that the reason for the brat's behavior was the OP's anti-social personality, which you had absolutely no basis to comment on and makes absolutely no difference in the outcome.

    You advocated every avenue but something that may actually fix the problem and keep the girl away from the OP's property. "Talk to her parents before doing anything else" - well, obvioulsy they're worthless when it comes to setting boundaries.

    You don't have to stand on a rooftop yelling "THE GIRL IS INNOCENT" to defend her. You have continuously taken the indefensible position of blaming everything and everyone in this girl's life for her behavior.

    When is she old enough to own up? What if she were 13? What if she were 21? Would she be old enough to be responsible for her actions then?

    I vote that when she's old enough to mouth off to an adult and then premeditate revenge, she's old enough to be punished for the things she does. And HARSHLY.
    You seem to be crediting me with saying, and thinking things I never said or thought. I did say to talk to her parents, but my reasoning was that it would reduce the risk to the OP of being prosecuted for threatening, or harming the child. Assault is a good charge to avoid, especialy when a minor is involved. Beyond that show me a quote to support your argument against me.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbB View Post
    I haven't a clue, didn't save it.
    I would have said the number was very small. I don't actually know anyone who has ever sued anyone.
    But I do know people who have been sued for bogus reasons. Guess I haven't done the math.
    I think the thing that skews the numbers is that the few people who actually do sue, will sue a LOT. Anybody. At the drop of a hat. For any reason.

    I know of one family where the mother and daughter were involved in something like four different lawsuits between them. At the same time. Four totally unrelated matters- the only common factor was that these people saw an opportunity to get a financial settlement, and they went after it. Four times. That I knew of, during a short period.

    I tried to stay far away from them.

    Again, best of luck to the OP.



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    Oh, for cryin' out loud, fascinated. Get over yourself and your preoccupation of defending all your [edit] comments. You are certainly unfascinating to most of us - I say let's call it a day and hope OP and Granny can sort out the li'l darlin'. Sadly, school is not in for another month or so - yikes!!!
    Last edited by Moderator 1; Jul. 22, 2008 at 10:27 AM. Reason: name calling



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    Quote Originally Posted by Renn/aissance View Post
    Bless your heart. I'm not going to touch on the apparent cultural bias here, but no one is calling the kid a sociopath. People are saying that she is behaving in a manner that is inappropriate, regardless of complicating factors, and that said behavior needs to stop.

    I'll say it: The kid is a sociopath.

    Nice 11, 12 or 13 year old girls do not chase horses with sticks and they do not mouth off at adults. Not even understimulated highly intelligent girls. I know this because I have highly intelligent girls who span that age range and when they are bored and told to entertain themselves they certainly do not do so by going to the barn and chasing horses with sticks, nor do they "walk" the dogs by tying them up and then wandering off to terrorize the neighbors. This is antisocial and unacceptable behavior by any stretch of the imagination and making excuses for it is just wrong. I don't care what kind of family life the girl had, by that age she certainly knows right from wrong and how animals should be treated. This is the kind of behavior that will only escalate if it isn't nipped in the bud.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxtrot's View Post
    Oh, for cryin' out loud, fascinated. Get over yourself and your preoccupation of defending all your idiotic comments. You are certainly unfascinating to most of us - I say let's call it a day and hope OP and Granny can sort out the li'l darlin'. Sadly, school is not in for another month or so - yikes!!!
    I am still trying to find out exactly what the offending comment was. I hope you don't decide not to breed to my stallion like the other person did.



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    Breed to your stallion? No, well just send 12 year old girls over to play with him and you can babysit for free



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    Oh, forget it.



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    This farm seems to be a prefered destination for girls aged 4-14 lately. Send them on.



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    Quote Originally Posted by facinated View Post
    This farm seems to be a prefered destination for girls aged 4-14 lately. Send them on.
    Given the tone you have set with this thread that just sounds creepy.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by ToiRider View Post
    I've been waiting all day to find out if you've figured out who can be prosecuted yet? What did your team of lawyers tell you?

    OOPS, I jumped the gun. It's still Sunday. I have to wait until tomorrow.
    I will let you know. I believe that it is a crime to threaten to harm a person over the internet. I think discussing plans and methods to do so might be as well. I am curious to learn if the paint ball advice is considered to be harmless fun. Are you of the opinion that nobody on COTH bb would ever do something rotten to a kid?



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    Quote Originally Posted by jeta View Post
    Given the tone you have set with this thread that just sounds creepy.....



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    Quote Originally Posted by facinated View Post
    There is something seriously wrong with the majority of you people.If this woman does not know who her neighbors are, in a rural area, I will bet that if you poll the neighbors you will hear plenty about her.
    This is a child, no one knows her name or anything about her yet the venom is spewing. This spitefull tone and attitude towards people works against horse owners every time. If my kid came home and told me that someone had yelled at her, I would find that person and make their life very, very miserable. If my child were at fault I would take responsibility, but nobody is going to get away with going after my child.
    Quote Originally Posted by facinated View Post
    Or we have a stuffy old bat who can't be bothered to get to know her neighbors, and may well be the Wicked Witch of the Cotswald. It is a much better bet that an English horsewoman is an anti social individual, than it is that a little girl is a sociopath.
    Quote Originally Posted by facinated;3374403. [I
    On Monday when everything is open I will learn more about if the threats which have been posted against this child are actionable[/I]
    Quote Originally Posted by facinated;3374442
    My objection here is to the attitude, and ideas that are being suggested by adults, to harm, and scare a child.
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    The "wicked witch of the cotswald" has said that she has no intention of doing any of those horrible things to the child.[/B] The people who would do such things should not be supported in any public forum, especialy one involving the increasingly problematic public perception of animal abuse that we have in the horse world.
    Quote Originally Posted by facinated View Post
    kookikat- the only thing I have said which was directed towards you was my original suggestion, and subsequent acknowledgement of your saying that you had no intention of doing anything cruel to a child. Several other people have recomended horrible tactics, although I did infer from your original post that you did not know yours either. .
    You claim to be 24 yrs old, but since you are a witch that is subject to doubt. Besides "young bat" lacks poetic flow.
    The rude comments you have made to the OP are in bold.. referring to her as and "stuffy old bat, Wicked witch of Coswald etc when all she did was ask the girl to leave her property and her horses alone and ask for help with how to deal with this situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by facinated View Post
    Refresh my memory. Where have I defended the child's behavior?
    And I believe your defense of the child came when you were saying that is was most likely that the OP was antisocial than the kid being the problem as well as looking to the authorities to see if anything can be done about the "threats" on this forum. Does that help refresh your memory??
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeta View Post
    Given the tone you have set with this thread that just sounds creepy.....
    Again you have me confused with someone else. I am the irrational one who is speaking against the people who want to hurt, and scare the child.



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    Note to the OP:

    Can you have the police test the fence posts for fingerprints BEFORE the child touches them to put them up? Just so there is absolute proof of her actions, in case you need it later.

    Obviously, once she touches the posts to put the fence back up, there will be no fingerprint evidence to verify that she was the vandal who tore down the fence in the first place.

    Again, document, document, document.



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    Quote:
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    There is something seriously wrong with the majority of you people.If this woman does not know who her neighbors are, in a rural area, I will bet that if you poll the neighbors you will hear plenty about her.
    This is a child, no one knows her name or anything about her yet the venom is spewing. This spitefull tone and attitude towards people works against horse owners every time. If my kid came home and told me that someone had yelled at her, I would find that person and make their life very, very miserable. If my child were at fault I would take responsibility, but nobody is going to get away with going after my child.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by facinated
    Or we have a stuffy old bat who can't be bothered to get to know her neighbors, and may well be the Wicked Witch of the Cotswald. It is a much better bet that an English horsewoman is an anti social individual, than it is that a little girl is a sociopath.

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    Originally Posted by facinated;3374403. [I
    On Monday when everything is open I will learn more about if the threats which have been posted against this child are actionable[/i]

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by facinated;3374442
    My objection here is to the attitude, and ideas that are being suggested by adults, to harm, and scare a child.
    [B
    The "wicked witch of the cotswald" has said that she has no intention of doing any of those horrible things to the child.[/b] The people who would do such things should not be supported in any public forum, especialy one involving the increasingly problematic public perception of animal abuse that we have in the horse world.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by facinated
    kookikat- the only thing I have said which was directed towards you was my original suggestion, and subsequent acknowledgement of your saying that you had no intention of doing anything cruel to a child. Several other people have recomended horrible tactics, although I did infer from your original post that you did not know yours either. .
    You claim to be 24 yrs old, but since you are a witch that is subject to doubt. Besides "young bat" lacks poetic flow.

    The rude comments you have made to the OP are in bold.. referring to her as and "stuffy old bat, Wicked witch of Coswald etc when all she did was ask the girl to leave her property and her horses alone and ask for help with how to deal with this situation.


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    Refresh my memory. Where have I defended the child's behavior?

    And I believe your defense of the child came when you were saying that is was most likely that the OP was antisocial than the kid being the problem as well as looking to the authorities to see if anything can be done about the "threats" on this forum. Does that help refresh your memory??
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    The use of the word "if" makes it a question, the word "or" indicates that it is an option. I used the term "wicked witch of the cotswAld" in acknowledging the OP's statement that she was NOT in agreement with the violent solutions to which I object. The confusion here may result from poor reading comprehension. I believe I said it would be a better bet that the op was anti social than the kid being a sociopath. Based on subsequent postings by the OP, it appears that the longshot won this time. If that analogy went over your head, maybe someone will explain it to you.



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    For the love of all things holy...facinated, YOU'RE the one who started this train wreck but refuse to accept any responsibility. What part do you not understand....no one wants to hurt or scare a child!!! The only thing scary about this thread is you!


    *And here I had promised Mod1 I would behave this weekend....I tried, I really did....sorry Mod1*



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    Quote Originally Posted by RNB View Post
    For the love of all things holy...facinated, YOU'RE the one who started this train wreck but refuse to accept any responsibility. What part do you not understand....no one wants to hurt or scare a child!!! The only thing scary about this thread is you!



    *And here I had promised Mod1 I would behave this weekend....I tried, I really did....sorry Mod1*
    There are several posts from different people detailing ways to hurt, and scare the child. Paint ball guns, electric fence, vicious dogs, vicious horses, ways to communicate threats, etc. Now everyone but the people who said those things is claiming that they were tongue in cheek comments. My initial posting was what I felt to be good honest advice. The rest was in response to what I see as nasty people saying nasty stuff about a little kid, and I am a big fan of little kids.
    I will put in a good word for you with Mod 1 at The Coach Stop tomorrow.
    Last edited by facinated; Jul. 21, 2008 at 12:47 AM.



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