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    https://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=11668

    "Our results showed that the fecal egg counts of small strongyles returned faster than expected--approximately twice as quickly," said Lyons. "This data suggests that a resistance to ivermectin is developing."
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    About Anthlecide...

    EVERY time I use it my entire barn gets diarrhea. SO be warned... if you give it at 1.5 of the normal dose you are in for some nasty issues. Now it's never hurt mine, they get over the upset in a couple of days, but with 15 equines out here it can make for some messy stalls.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoMare View Post
    Penny, my Clyde-X, got her 2nd DDE on Friday (9-5). No new welts today, so I'm hoping we've killed off the critters. Her belly was totally healed, though. No more scabbies!
    Tonight's update: Well, well, well. I brought P up to trim her feet and found a horribly scratched, raised, scabby and PAINFUL welt on the right side of her neck about 2 inches below the mane hairline. Very crusty and above it to the left is a pocket of fluid...moveable, not hard, no heat. I know it was PAINFUL because even the slightest touch on it had Penny mare giving me the OWWWW HAIRY EYEBALL, swishing her tail and almost knocking me over reaction.

    I washed it as gently as I could with Nolvasan Surgical Scrub, dried it and sprayed some Lanacane on it to help with the pain a wee bit. After I was done with my chores, it was all dry so I Lanacane sprayed it again and then applied a dollop of Ickymol. We'll see what it looks like tomorrow.

    P was NOT happy with me and made her disgust blatantly clear. Hmph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderTheSonWelshCobs View Post
    About Anthlecide...

    EVERY time I use it my entire barn gets diarrhea. SO be warned... if you give it at 1.5 of the normal dose you are in for some nasty issues. Now it's never hurt mine, they get over the upset in a couple of days, but with 15 equines out here it can make for some messy stalls.
    I have used 1.5x Anthelcide and not had any problem
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    Ok, here are some pics that I took last night. If you move the hair on my girl in most spots there is flaky skin... I mean all over, you get up close and look and there are big flakes.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_1693.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_1694.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_1689.jpg

    Here are the little pink dots that I spoke about
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_1692.jpg

    And this is her rump
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_1690.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_1691.jpg

    This has all occurred since double dosing her. The stuff on her butt showed up after the second dd of equimax. I wormed them both on Wednesday with one dose of Ivermectin and that is when the dandruff appeared.

    My other mare also has a couple of little dandruff spots, but nothing like Kit.
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    Default thanks for pics - very helpful...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cashela View Post
    Ok, here are some pics that I took last night. If you move the hair on my girl in most spots there is flaky skin... I mean all over, you get up close and look and there are big flakes.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_1693.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_1694.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_1689.jpg

    Here are the little pink dots that I spoke about
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_1692.jpg

    And this is her rump
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_1690.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...a/IMG_1691.jpg

    This has all occurred since double dosing her. The stuff on her butt showed up after the second dd of equimax. I wormed them both on Wednesday with one dose of Ivermectin and that is when the dandruff appeared.

    My other mare also has a couple of little dandruff spots, but nothing like Kit.
    Thanks for documenting! Photos help alot....and according to what others have experienced, looks like this is GOOD - part of the "eviction of worms" process...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LMH View Post
    countrysupply.com cheapest I think!
    I just ordered a bunch from horse warehouse dot com for 9.99 and free shipping over $65



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    So I don't know if I'm boring everyone with my updates and photo's but here is another one No photos today.

    Kit is still a giant flake and still has the crap on her butt. I bought some Cowboy Magic Krudbuster which I have used before and basically coated her with it today. Will let you know if that helps.

    My 6 year old has developed 3 hard lumps. 2 are about the size of a half dollar and raised maybe about a 1/2 inch. They are both in the same area on her side. The other is right where her naval is it is bigger, maybe not as hard. If I can find my camera I will try and take pics. She also has some dandruff under her neck. I find this interesting as she hadn't had any itching, etc like Kit did.
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    I've updated the photos on my page as well.

    http://underthesonfarm.com/itchies.html



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    Ok I double dosed my Perch today with Equimax. Is it possible to see a difference within hours? I mean I have read how the first couple days after could be the worst as far as itchiness goes. Ok, I double dosed, turned her out, brought her in 4 hours later and I SWEAR she was itching more than usual already. Does it start working THAT quick??? I took before pics today too I'm looking forward to this!!!

    Wow, Undertheson...congrats!



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    Interesting development with Blush: we injected C6/C7 this morning.

    For the first time all summer, I did not find a rubbed tail when I went out in the afternoon. It's awfully quick for the c spine injections to have taken affect, but that would be a mighty strange coincidence.



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    Simkie - which are the C6/7? Are they in the neck? Near the head or near the withers?

    Or along the back?



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    Quote Originally Posted by gabz View Post
    Simkie - which are the C6/7? Are they in the neck? Near the head or near the withers?

    Or along the back?
    C6/C7 are the last two vertebrae in the cervical spine (the part of the spine in the neck) and C6/C7 is in front of the point of the shoulder and up just a couple inches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSR View Post
    ... I hosed my gelding with the swollen fetlocks and it looks like the swelling is coming from the tendon behind the cannon bone and is settling in the fetlock. He is also very sore in his lower back. My filly is not wanting to bend her neck...
    I started reading this thread several days ago and I definitly have a candidate for treatment. But I want to ask, the research links I've gone to so far all state no damage is done to the nucheal ligament in the neck or the legs by the adult worms. Has anybody ever associated the damage of DSLD with threadworms? DSLD permanently affects the connective tissues from ligaments to lungs to eyes, and is mostly associated with swollen, dropped fetlocks (though not all DSLD horses have fallen fetlocks). They still do not know what is causing DSLD. Could DSLD-like symptoms actually be caused by threadworms??

    I just used panacur and did a panacur power pak on a broodmare, but I am going to go ahead and get my itchy tail rubbing appy on this treatment asap! The rest I probably will do in 3 weeks.



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    Well it is official.

    Milo is itching to death again.

    Not two weeks after the second Equimax.



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    Default Just treated my herd

    Ordered the doubledose of equimax and eagerly awaited delivery while reading everyone's updates.

    Here's what I have and we'll see what happens. I am nervous about the doubledosing; sure hope everything works out. I also had to wait until we were in between shows so if we did have any issues they could work out -- next show is mid-October.

    Fancy - 11 yr old Morgan Mare - last 3 years has had hairloss on face and neck, particularly in summer/fall. Didn't start this year until Mid-August, but it continued fast. She also has weird dry/flaky/peeling skin under her tail. She's the one I think this is going to help the most.

    Tex - yearling morgan/pinto (black & white) pony colt of above mare - interestingly he had very slight hair loss this summer -- noticed it earlier than the mare. He also has BIG belly.

    Tator Tot - 5 year old ClydeX mare. Big tail rubber. Top of tail looks like a short peacock fan. She's a big girl, so hard to tell if belly is just her or not.

    Buster - yearling ClydeXPinto colt of above mare He looks pretty good -- his physical issues are, I believe, related to the yearling fugglies. Was slow to shed out.

    Frosty - 4 year old Canadian Warmblood mare. Tail rubber - actually I'm sad to say she had a squirrels next in her tail before we noticed it. Also a big belly -- not sure if this might be load related or not.

    Roscoe - yearling Canadian Warmblood/Oldenburg pinto colt out of above mare- beautiful with belly. I don't think this horse could look ugly -- he's just plain gorgeous. Interesting story on he and the Canadian -- they are actually from the COTH giveaways (she was accidentally bred as a 2 year old and they couldn't foal her out). We love, love, love both of them.

    Meg - 12 yr old bay TB mare eventer - prior to our ownership this winter was on a daily wormer. Not now. She's actually tough to keep weight on so we'll see. Cribs (my first ... very odd habit).

    Hannah - 16 yr old bay TB mare jumper - she actually has some weird stuff going on with her legs. Her prior owner (we acquired her last August) told us that she'd had "mud fever" about 5 years before and the horney growth we saw all over her rear pasterns was related to that. However, it occasionally peels off and bleeds and is just weird. Is sound on it (unlike the darn puncture wound she had on the outside of her hock earlier this year). She does have routine stocking up of the right leg, cannon bone/pastern - particularly if stalled but also just because.

    Bonnie - 8 year old Belgian mare (draft, not warmblood). Good girl, no issues other than she's my husband's horse who he's owned for 2 years and still hasn't ridden. But at least he no longer gripes at me about the other horses since he now has one of his own.

    Big Momma - 12 yr old black/bay Percheron/TB former PMU broodmare. Big honkin belly - itchy tail. We can't keep her - she was out on lease and returned in very bad weight this March. We've now got her weight up.

    Simply Sparkles - 2 yr old black/bay appy sporthorse out of the percheron/tb mare above. Has big belly and small raised areas that are kind of odd. Kind of like bug bites.

    So .... we'll see how it goes. Do we automatically doubledose again in 2 weeks, or only if there was some kind of a reaction? I must say, this was an expensive weekend!



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    Quote Originally Posted by LMH View Post
    Well it is official.

    Milo is itching to death again.

    Not two weeks after the second Equimax.
    2x Ivermectin... he didn't *get* this way in a month now, did he?
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    I thought that would be next on this list.

    Nope-it took 3 years to get like this...actually almost 4. So I guess 6 weeks to start reversing things is not bad.



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    bumping this back to the first page



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