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  1. #1
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    Thumbs up More Than Luck...

    Well I just watched TQ's video of JTB and More Than Luck and I gotta say WOW about More Than Luck..

    Personally I like him better than JTB.. he has more power and he won the same day in jumpers and then went on to win in hunters as well. That takes A LOT of talent. He also has an amazing pedigree and motherline..

    His motherline has produced notables like:

    Conquistador
    Quindoctro - Approved stallion by Indoctro
    Upsilon Van De Heffinck - Elite BWP stallion by Clinton
    Quirio Van De Heffinck - Elite BWP stallion by Darco
    Utrillo Van De Heffinck
    Herzblatt - approved stallion by Heartbreaker

    Also all kinds of ster and keur mares...

    Really amazing..


    Has anyone here bred to him?



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    No one? Or is there a reason that people dont like him? I thought he was lovely.



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    I have and got a spectacular colt in 2007. He was sold to a hunter/jumper rider in Florida that just adores him. My colt was the whole package, great hunter mover, beautiful conformation and lovely head, and kind, easy going temperament. Oh, and he was super athletic too. I have no doubt he will be able to fulfill his owner's wish of doing well in both the hunters and jumpers. His owner is keeping him intact as a stud prospect and says that he is an absolute gentleman.

    I think more people would breed to More than Luck if just more people knew about him. I love him. IMO, he adds more substance than JTB does and the result , while still elegant, is a more warmblood looking hunter-type rather than the more TB type I got from JTB. I really liked my MTL colt's look. (Not that I don't love my JTB colt too!) My main reason for not breeding to him this year is that his stud fee is a bit steep(1750 when I bred to him) for me and I simply couldn't afford him this year. I will breed to him again when I can afford him.

    This was Heart's Luck (aka Lucky) as a foal.

    http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Lucky2TOC.jpg
    http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...ckyTrotTOC.jpg
    http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Lucky1w-1.jpg
    http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...kyHead2TOC.jpg
    Last edited by Clarion; Jul. 1, 2008 at 06:28 PM.
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    I have always thought MTL was really nice but wondered too why he was sort of an unknown. He is who I have been interested in.
    "Sometimes you just have to shut up and color."



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    TQ does an amazing job with her program. I said this before, but it bears repeating.... Her stallions have produced winners in HB, HJ/E, Eventing, and dressage! Just The Best & More Than Luck have stood the test of time.... year after year they continue to prove themselves in their offspring. AMAZING!
    I really want a JTB weanling for HB... then performance... but my money is funny right now.

    Clarion.... I adsolutely adored Heart's Luck!
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    I'll second, third, etc. Tish's boys. I have a mare confirmed in foal to JTB, but after watching her DVD, it was a toss up on which was nicer. I just made my decision based on my mare, but they are clearly stunningly talented boys.
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    Does anyone know what registries MTL is approved with? I was hoping KWPN-NA like JTB but unfortunately not
    "Sometimes you just have to shut up and color."



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    He is approved RPSI



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    Wow, that is a spectactular looking foal!



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    Thanks, Sunny's Mom! Pony girl, you can get some sort of papers from the Dutch, because they sent me the application when Lucky was born, I guess it is just the equivalent of a COP. I really don't understand all of the Dutch's books. I went with RPSI because he could have full papers with them since MTL was fully approved with them.(even though my mare was Dutch too). That way his owner could present him as fully pedigreed for stallion approval, if she chooses to go that route.
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    Love reading all the nice notes about More Than Luck. He really is a spectacular stallion and sire. The reason you haven't heard more about him is that he doesn't have a lot of offspring in the show ring yet. When they are old enough to get there, look out! They are fabulous! Great athletic, beautiful horses with wonderful minds. They are very smart and learn quickly and are delightful to handle. He throws bigger than he is.

    He was the first foal out of Inetta. We imported her especially to breed to Best of Luck to produce an exceptional continuation of his bloodline. Just The Best was already our perfect Hunter sire and we needed a more European type for the jumpers and dressage. We got exactly what we wanted with the bonus being that he is also a superb hunter himself and produces horses that will do that job as well as anybody.

    Inetta was the KWPN Top Star Mare in North America as a 3-year-old and scored the Highest IBOP Score in North America as a 5 year old. She is in the IHF Hall of Fame based on her IHF offspring and their success. Inetta is by Beach Boy by Zeus and out of Binette by Rothschild by Ramiro Z, so she brings lots of great blood and doubles up on the Lucky Boy blood that I love. She has been bred to Best of Luck and Just The Best exclusively.

    More Than Luck is in Stud Book One of the RPSI.
    With the KWPN his foals get Register B or COP because he has not been to a stallion approval. There just are not enough days on my calendar to go everywhere and do everything we should do. He was the Top Dutch Horse in the Young Jumper Championship when he was six. He has been bred to some famous Grand Prix Jumper mares and the foals are spectacular. Amerika 7, who was Hap Hansen's successfl international horse for a long time has a wonderful filly by More Than Luck and is back in foal to him.

    When you consider that he gets most of his mares in foal on the first cycle, thereby saving additional collection and shipping costs, I think his fee is very reasonable for his quality and ability and the foals he has produced.

    Wow, that was fun! Thanks for letting me brag.
    Standing Just The Best, More Than Luck & Lots of Luck www.tishquirk.com



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    Amerika 7, who was Hap Hansen's successfl international horse for a long time has a wonderful filly by More Than Luck and is back in foal to him.
    Tish, do you have a picture of that foal? Amerkia was one of my favorites when she was showing & I would love to see her daughter.



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    HI Spacely,
    It is on my long list of things I must do asap to take new photos of Amerika's Luck. She is beautiful. Right now we are in the middle of a very busy breeding season and are also training and trying to get to some shows. So, I have not found the time to take new photos. As soon as I do I will put them on the website. I am a computer illiterate and don't know how to post photos here. On my current "must do photos list" are: Amerika's Luck out of Amerika 7, Domino's Luck out of Shania and More Like It out of Felicita. Also hoping the foal owners across the country will send photos of their babies and young horses. Clarion does a wonderful job of taking great photos of her foals and I really appreciate receiving them.
    Standing Just The Best, More Than Luck & Lots of Luck www.tishquirk.com



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    Well I still have not gotten new photos done of Amerika's Luck but I did do new ones of Domino's Luck who is out of Shania. I will try to get them up on the website or send them to someone who can post them here.
    Ran out of day before I ran out of "must do's". I'll keep trying to get new photos of Amerika's Luck. She is lovely.
    Standing Just The Best, More Than Luck & Lots of Luck www.tishquirk.com



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    Quote Originally Posted by TQ
    Well I still have not gotten new photos done of Amerika's Luck but I did do new ones of Domino's Luck who is out of Shania. I will try to get them up on the website or send them to someone who can post them here.
    Ran out of day before I ran out of "must do's". I'll keep trying to get new photos of Amerika's Luck. She is lovely.

    I'll be glad to post any for you!
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    I wanna see pictures!
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    TQ has a wonderful program and takes such pride in her boys. I would love to have one of her young ones for my daughter's junior hunter!!!



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    Default Wow!!!!!!!

    Posting for Tish here.

    This is Domino's Luck by More Than Luck out of Shania, Cathleen Calvert's grand prix mare.

    Absolutely lovely!!!


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    Beautiful colt! I am still dying to see the Amerika 7 baby though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaBred View Post
    Posting for Tish here.

    This is Domino's Luck by More Than Luck out of Shania, Cathleen Calvert's grand prix mare.

    Absolutely lovely!!!


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