[freestyle2music]

http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/news/2008/06/115.shtml

[merrygoround]

I hope its better built than some of their schools.

[AM]

It stood up to a typhoon during the test event last summer.

[slc2]

11 foot square stalls.

[egontoast]

11 foot square stalls.

A little bigger than that.

Will you be withdrawing then, slc?

[canticle]

where's the turnout?

[retrofit]

Well DUH, it's in the same place as the turnout in every other show venue!

[slc2]

11.8 ft.

[egontoast]

Yes, I know. Less than 2.5 inches short of 12 each side so why say 11X11.

[Ember]

where's the turnout?

right here

"For the first time ever at an Olympic venue a rolling box, measuring 20.5 square meters, will be provided to allow horses the opportunity to relax, stretch and play.

[slc2]

67 feet.

[Phaxxton]

Yes, I know. Less than 2.5 inches short of 12 each side so why say 11X11.

Aren't most so-called "12x12" actually about 2 - 3" shorter than that each way b/c they are measured without taking into account the wallboards or something like that? (I remember reading something to that effect when researching barns...)

[Phaxxton]

Question for those who know, as I'm honestly curious. Is an air conditioned barn a good idea? I've been to China 3x times (once to Hong Kong in August), so I *know* how hot and humid it will be, but is going from that heat / humidity to an AC barn a good thing for horses? Do their bodies adjust to immediate temperature changes that well?

[canticle]

right here

"For the first time ever at an Olympic venue a rolling box, measuring 20.5 square meters, will be provided to allow horses the opportunity to relax, stretch and play.

Rolling box? 20.5 sq meters? That's the size of 1.5 parking spaces. Doesn't sound like luxury to me!

[egontoast]

Oh come on, It's silly to expect turnout at any show, let alone a show of this size.

I think the attempt to provide a place large enough for a horse to roll is very accomodating.

Good grief, you think that an Olympic facility must provide turnout? Not sure that would even be a good idea if it were possible.

They don't live there, you know, it's a SHOW. Rollyeye thingy.

[Dressage Art]

It seems that the equestrian facilities in China will be better than the ones during the last Olympics in Greece. If I remember correctly, temps was in triple digits and no AC for people or for horses there, only cooling fans with mist.

Link to the 2004 Olympics equestrian, arenas, barns pages: http://www.cyberhorse.net.au/cgi-bin...csstables1.txt

Also, in 2004, the equestrian part of Olympic Games took a financial hit, b/c of the lack of spectators. I hope this year will be better.

[Fixerupper]

Racing is very big in Hong Kong, maybe if they allow betting...??

[CrazyDog]

Aren't most so-called "12x12" actually about 2 - 3" shorter than that each way b/c they are measured without taking into account the wallboards or something like that? (I remember reading something to that effect when researching barns...)

As I found out when trying to fit 6' x 4' mats into my 12' x 12' stall!

[CrazyDog]

Question for those who know, as I'm honestly curious. Is an air conditioned barn a good idea? I've been to China 3x times (once to Hong Kong in August), so I *know* how hot and humid it will be, but is going from that heat / humidity to an AC barn a good thing for horses? Do their bodies adjust to immediate temperature changes that well?

Horses in the UAE (and other places I'm sure) also have air conditioned stables because of the heat and humidity. They do adjust, but of course they live there so perhaps it is easier. I expect the horses might wear sheets in the stables.

[ToN Farm]

Aren't most so-called "12x12" actually about 2 - 3" shorter than that each way b/c they are measured without taking into account the wallboards or something like that?

Yes, and it's because stalls are built using outside dimensions. How goofy is that. The builders expect you to know that. I also purchased custom mats for my 12x14 stalls and that's when I discovered it. Thankfully I made them 12x14 because if 12x12 I would have felt them too small. I cringe at those small portable stalls (some with a pole in the middle) that many horse shows have. At Wellington, the hunter/jumper horses live in them for the whole season. They are only about 10x10. With all the money spent on horse showing, I think providing some larger stalls is not asking too much.