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  1. #1
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    Default New Vocations

    Has anyone ever adopted from New Vocations before? I saw them posted on another BB that was looking at the "training" advice, in particular trailer loading and I wondered if the advice was supported by the program or if someone outside had written it.

    Also, they do not allow PPE is this normal?



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    I adopted from New Vocations in March.

    Really great organization, great experience, WONDERFUL horse.....I just love my new boy.

    I do believe that their "training advice" does come from people in the organization. I do know that Anna Ford, the adoption manager, does have a new book out on training the OTTB.

    As for the trailer loading part of it....when my boy was getting loaded I wouldn't allow any drugs, brooms or any other of the harsher tactics....just took our time...he went on and came home.

    It is true that they do not allow the PPE. They are very upfront with any issues the horse has or has had in the past as they want these beautiful babies placed in the right homes. While in their care they get any vet care they need as well as Chiropractic care. Also, you can't ride the horse you are interested in, but you may do basically anything else.

    This is a great and well run adoption facility, well worth taking a look at any horse you are interested in.

    My boy was well represented, I was able to look at the paperwork from the people who donated him, his pedigree and his race record. I spent as much time with him and all the other horses I went there to look at as I wanted to, I was not rushed at all. He has turned out to be all that they said he was......actually BETTER. My vet examined him when he came home and was very impressed with the horse and the shape he was in, he couldn't believe he was an OTTB and came from a rescue.

    I would not hesitate to adopt from them again, in fact when I buy my own place in the next year or so I will adopt again.



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    enjoytheride - I got my old OTTB from New Vocations a long time ago - maybe 6 years ago. He was exactly as represented by Anna. I did not go up to OH to look at them as I was in SC. I contacted them upon recomendation from the woman who does Bitsandbytes.com TBs.
    I told Anna that I wanted something that wouldn't buck, rear, etc.. that had was easy to deal with, sound and talented enough for low level eventing. I liked the look of Renny, and she sent me extra pictures of the him and said he fit the bill. I got him vetted when he arrived. Like Meandmoka's vet - mine was pretty impressed with what good shape he was in for coming from a rescue. My vet had been a track vet and he said Renny was really fit and very sound for racing for 7 years. We did end up injecting an ankle and hocks to make him more comfortable. When I had my son I sold him to a jr. rider who competed him up to Training. Renny is featured in Anna's book. He continues to need his ankle and hocks injected to keep him comfortable and while he may have the talent to go up the levels, we don't know if he can physically do it. BUT -- when I adopted him I thought the highest I'd go with him would be Novice and mostly local shows. So I feel like he was honestly represented and we got a bargain for $600.
    I would adopt from them again in the future.



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    100% accurate representation of their horses. In the adoption contract they are returnable for a full refund for, if I am correct?, 60 days. Returnable for 2 yrs without the refund. (for the low, low fees I would personally forfeit the money for the good cause!) So you can have them vetted when you get them home. They place 300+ horses per year and they turn very quickly. Insurance prevents a boatload of unknowns from being able to ride/try them there.

    You need to be preapproved so get that done ASAP, then describe your needs. They will call you when a horse fits -- then RUN!
    Last edited by pony grandma; Jun. 25, 2008 at 11:29 PM. Reason: 60 days
    About the only time losing is more fun than winning is when you're fighting temptation.
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    I look at their website every day, and drool over the horses I can't afford to buy right now. I live in OH and have heard VERY good things about this organization, and when I do have the money to buy a horse, I wouldn't hesitate to adopt one from New Vocations.

    I think that with the 6 month money-back clause, you can't go wrong!



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    Quote Originally Posted by starrysky View Post
    I look at their website every day, and drool over the horses I can't afford to buy right now.
    Me too! I call it my horse porn site. I mostly look at the STBs because I have a STB now and I couldn't keep up with a TB in my current station in life (desk jockey). I have noticed that many more of the STBs are sound for high performance compared to the TBs. But that may be because the super sound TBs get snapped up before they even put them on the site. I know that can happen for the STBs.



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    I adopted from New Vocations. Great people to deal with. No, you can't do a PPE at their facility, but you do have a 30 day money back guarantee, if you will. If the horse doesn't work out, they will happily take it back within 30 days and refund your money. And they will ALWAYS take a horse back after that, but just wont refund your $$. Pretty good deal really, when most horses go for arount $500-$700.



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    Thanks, I've heard good things about the website but the training advice was a little scary.

    Can you purchase a horse, take it home, have your own ppe done, then "return" the horse?



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    I do know that if you are not happy with the horse at any time, you are allowed to return them. For the first two years you aren't allowed to sell the horse anyway (so it would have to go back to them). I honestly don't think that it is really a bad thing that they don't allow PPE because they have the horses checked out and represent them to 100% honestly. I adopted my gelding that I have for sale from them and have loved every second of having him (I have to sell him because I don't have enough time for him). When I get the chance I plan on adopting from them again. I think they have a wonderful program and do great work!



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    enjoytheride, I just reread the training advice on trailer loading. What part did you think was scary? It said gentle, patient handling. I'm confused.



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    I think you needed to read further!

    "The key to success is doing it properly and not fainting the first time. The strong man on the broom needs to be prepared to keep swatting fifteen or twenty times. Badly spoiled horses that have repeatedly refused to load may rear up and fall down more than once during this process, but the swatting needs to continue without hesitation. If it’s dangerous for the handler at the horse’s head, then use the long rope leveraged around a bar in the front of the trailer to keep the horse pointed in the right direction"

    I have a bit of a specialty at teaching horses to load and I have never resulted to anything like this. Frankly, if I saw someone beating a horse with a broom while it reared and fell over multiple times I'd be on the phone to report horse abuse. I have had poor loaders rear up when learning and I do use a whip sometimes but wenching a horse on or beating it while it continues to flip over is excessive and abusive. There is a very fine line between terrifying a horse and getting a rogue horse to obey and I think that many people cross this line very quickly.

    Otherwise I enjoy the website and I would like to get a new vocations horse when I am ready to buy another project.



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    I've never adopted or gone to NV, but I think she's saying swatting equals tap, tap, tap.
    I just use a longe whip w/ the lash rolled around the stick. It's for MY safety for the difficult loaders in case they swing their rumps towards me or pop a leg out.
    And yes, spolied horses who have gotten away with not loading will usually try everything BUT getting on.



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    I was just wondering. I did read that part. It didn't bother me in the least. It's a broom, not a whip/stick/boot. There are many ways to get things done or train -- this method doesn't bother me at all. It may not be the best method for every horse, but it's certainly not scary or abusive advice.



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    Does Anna even mean to tap the horse or tap the ground? I think I am a bit confused here!! People use all kinds of things and maybe this method has worked for her before. Some horses who hate the trailer can take hours and hours to get in (I know from past experiences and if I had thought of this, I might have tried it myself...at least to see if it would work better than what I was doing previously).



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    You know I have taken a whip, a stick, whatever, and tapped, tapped, tapped on the back of the fetlock - you know -- in that totally annoying way. Just keep it up, not hurting the horse at all, until the horse wants to escape it so bad that they move forward away from it. It seems to work VERY well, every time!
    About the only time losing is more fun than winning is when you're fighting temptation.
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    Back to the original question, NV is very legit. I have donated money to them in the past and they are very reputable. They are totally upfront about the horses and I have seen them take back horses even when the reasons were not so legitimate. I have also seen them trade back several times until a client felt they had a good match. I have also seen them decline adoption applications because a persons references or stabling etc don't meet their requirements. They really do right by the horses. Great organization. These people are totally dedicated to saving horses and seeing they get good homes for life.



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    I'm going through the adoption process right now. So far, so good!



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    Exciting!!! Keep us posted. Who are you adopting?



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    Not telling
    I don't want to jinx myself. Nor, do I want anyone pinching him from me.



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    Default A New Vocations Cutie!

    Here's the one that we just went and picked up from New Vocations a month ago. We helped a friend find him for her daughter, whom we coach.

    First day at his new home. http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/j...t=100_2697.jpg He really wouldn't even look at her. He didn't know how to be her horse yet. Now he's her best friend and is showing tons of affection.

    Second ride! http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/j...t=100_2742.jpg And in a sidepull.

    This horse has a happy home for life now! I'm currently working on another family to apply with them soon. I love transforming these horses and seeing them thrive in their new homes.
    About the only time losing is more fun than winning is when you're fighting temptation.
    -- Tom Wilson, actor & comedian



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