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    Default Suggestions for hunter sire

    A good friend has asked me to help him find a stallion (either WB or QH) for his TB mare in the hopes of getting a foal that he can do the A circuit with in a few years (Adult Amateur or AOs). The mare is a 10+ mover and jumper, but she's very petite standing only 15.2. I'd like to find a stallion known for very quiet off spring that would put a little size on her. (He'd ideally like something around 16.2 to 16.3). Confirmation wise - she's very correct and sound with an exceptionally pretty head and neck.

    If you were going to breed a mare like this, who would you consider?



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    Try the Sporthorse breeding folks over on that forum.

    Most of us don't breed and tend to look at the performance instead of the names.

    Sure friend wants to do this and wait 5 years to do Adults and closer to 6 to 7 years from conception for that 3'6" A/O. with no guarantees? Probably the best buyers market for finished horses ever right now and likely that's not going to change. Won't be good for her if baby does not work out and she needs to sell it...won't be good for baby either.
    When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

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    One of my faves is Just the Best by Best of Luck, hes a Dutch WB located in California
    www.tishquirk.com



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    Quote Originally Posted by KVJohns614 View Post
    One of my faves is Best of Luck, hes a Dutch WB located in California
    www.tishquirk.com
    His get are all beautiful with great minds, but he doesn't throw height. Don't expect him to add on your mare.
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    Cunningham, Popeye K.
    www.grayfoxfarms.com Home of Redwine, Aloha, Federalist, Romantic Star and Rated R.



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    Quote Originally Posted by findeight View Post
    Try the Sporthorse breeding folks over on that forum.

    Most of us don't breed and tend to look at the performance instead of the names.

    Sure friend wants to do this and wait 5 years to do Adults and closer to 6 to 7 years from conception for that 3'6" A/O. with no guarantees? Probably the best buyers market for finished horses ever right now and likely that's not going to change. Won't be good for her if baby does not work out and she needs to sell it...won't be good for baby either.
    Thanks, I'll check it out over there. I agree buying in this market is less risky compared to breeding, but money isn't the driving factor and he really wants a foal for her. If it doesn't work out, it's not a big deal. He'll either find it a good home or keep it anyway.



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    Quote Originally Posted by grayfox View Post
    Cunningham, Popeye K.
    I love Popeye K and he was one that the owner mentioned he'd be interested in. Do his get have quiet dispositions?



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    Well if she's that small... and it's her first... maybe u want to try doing a pony stallion first and get the small one out of the way????


    If you're looking for a great AA/AO horse... I'd recommend going with All The Gold... I've known quite a few mares bred to him and all have had lovely hunters.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tini Sea Soldier View Post
    Well if she's that small... and it's her first... maybe u want to try doing a pony stallion first and get the small one out of the way????


    If you're looking for a great AA/AO horse... I'd recommend going with All The Gold... I've known quite a few mares bred to him and all have had lovely hunters.
    Thanks, I'll add him to the list.

    We've actually talked about it. My trainer stands a nice Welsh stallion, who I think she'd cross nice with. Definitely an option.



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    All the Gold is in (or near) Ohio and you can go look. Also there are alot of his out there and many at the shows by him that don't advertise the bloodline.

    But...well....do your research. And either side is only 50% of the equation. Whatever, see if you cannot track down mares similar to your friends bred to anything you are considering. See what came out of the match.

    I like PopeyeK but he is relatively new at stud...don't recall him as being big either. Cboylen might know more about the size and what he can throw in that department out of a smaller mare.

    Have seen some good ones by Alla C'zar and that one has been around, lots of Ammy mounts by him.

    Unless friend wants to go the appendix route with the QH folks, I'd go WB here. More options for resale and a better chance of getting an honest to gosh Hunter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by findeight View Post
    All the Gold is in (or near) Ohio and you can go look. Also there are alot of his out there and many at the shows by him that don't advertise the bloodline.

    But...well....do your research. And either side is only 50% of the equation. Whatever, see if you cannot track down mares similar to your friends bred to anything you are considering. See what came out of the match.

    I like PopeyeK but he is relatively new at stud...don't recall him as being big either. Cboylen might know more about the size and what he can throw in that department out of a smaller mare.

    Have seen some good ones by Alla C'zar and that one has been around, lots of Ammy mounts by him.

    Unless friend wants to go the appendix route with the QH folks, I'd go WB here. More options for resale and a better chance of getting an honest to gosh Hunter.
    Thanks for the info....I'll talk to him about going to visit All the Gold since he's close by. I agree also about going the WB route. I'm not super familiar with WB lines, as we've always bred TBs for the hunter ring, but my trainer is pretty up too speed.

    I'm particularly attached to this mare, as I've shown her for him the past two years. It'll be fun seeing her become a mom.



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    Kory Merrill in SC has two lovely stallions whose get seem to be lovely movers/jumpers and have saintly attitudes. One stallion is a TB called Sneak Preview and the other is a QH by Invitation Only called Extended Invitation. The QH is not that tall, but he seems to be throwing pretty big foals.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Horseshowaddict View Post
    Kory Merrill in SC has two lovely stallions whose get seem to be lovely movers/jumpers and have saintly attitudes. One stallion is a TB called Sneak Preview and the other is a QH by Invitation Only called Extended Invitation. The QH is not that tall, but he seems to be throwing pretty big foals.
    Thanks! I've seen Invitation Only in person - he is stunning!



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    What about Shine?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Come Shine View Post
    What about Shine?
    I've never heard anything about him. Do you know where he stands?



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    If youa re thinking QH here si one that I am planning to breed an appendix QH mare I ahve, who is a daughter of Our Diplomat. He is "Regular paperd" so can be bred to appendix and TB mares and still register offspring (if that matters to you). He is 17.2 and has an awesome jump, there are video links on their website, I do not know this horse, jsut ran across him on dreamhorse looking for an afforedable stallion for my mare:

    http://www.dreamhorse.com/show_horse...orse_id=919927

    their website is:

    http://oewequinecenter.com/stilts.htm



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    Ick...would not recommend breeding to anything having to do with Indian Artifacts. Hate him. Babies are bad hocked and have no ass.

    Go straight to the source and try Artful Move or Art I Sweet.



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    All the Gold is in (or near) Ohio and you can go look. Also there are alot of his out there and many at the shows by him that don't advertise the bloodline.
    But...well....do your research. And either side is only 50% of the equation. Whatever, see if you cannot track down mares similar to your friends bred to anything you are considering. See what came out of the match.
    I like PopeyeK but he is relatively new at stud...don't recall him as being big either. Cboylen might know more about the size and what he can throw in that department out of a smaller mare.
    Almost all of the All the Golds I know are small.
    Popeye himself is really big, 16.3-17h, and seems taller even when you're standing next to him. Most of his offspring I'm familiar with fall nicely into the 16.1-16.2ish range.
    What about Shine?
    Shine is tiny.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarabeth
    His get are all beautiful with great minds, but he doesn't throw height. Don't expect him to add on your mare.
    Completely false. Every one of his children are taller than he is.
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