[quote=Cloverbug;3447105]Okay I looked in the Pinto Horse 2008 Rule Book (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) but according to Page 53, E6 World Show it doesn't appear you need to qualify for the show.
That is correct. I was at a Pinto Show in May, and the other ladies were asking me if I was going to the World show. Ah, no....... And they replied that I did not need to be qualified. All I needed was a current registration and membership, and a Pinto registration. Wow! Coming from the AHSA/USEF background, I had thought that there was no way in this lifetime that I'd ever get to a World show, but given the requirments, I might just have to put Oklahoma on my calendar! And in my goals!
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I have seen quite a few paints going around the ring lately. Definitely more of the warmblood type frames, but with a lot of color. I think they are beautiful! I have just started riding a State of the Art baby as well as a warmblood paint and never liked them until I rode them. I think a nice horse is a nice horse no matter what color(s) it is. I would just warn that certain paint-type bloodlines do have a tendency to be high-strung (but what breed is exempt from this?). I say if you find a nice one go for it!
I have seen quite a few paints going around the ring lately. Definitely more of the warmblood type frames, but with a lot of color. I think they are beautiful! I have just started riding a State of the Art baby as well as a warmblood paint and never liked them until I rode them. I think a nice horse is a nice horse no matter what color(s) it is. I would just warn that certain paint-type bloodlines do have a tendency to be high-strung (but what breed is exempt from this?). I say if you find a nice one go for it!
pow wow was at my barn a while ago. that pony is the best.
Otteridge Pow Wow is a beautiful pony and won his three year old class at Devon.
His little full brother, Otteridge Black Hawk was the first (and so far the only) pinto to be Grand Champion in Pony Breeding at The Devon Horse Show. Here is a picture of him (Kathryn Southard photo) from the Middleburg Classic.
They are by *Forge Nimbus out of Miss Bar Dee.
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Otteridge Pow Wow is a beautiful pony and won his three year old class at Devon.
His little full brother, Otteridge Black Hawk was the first (and so far the only) pinto to be Grand Champion in Pony Breeding at The Devon Horse Show. Here is a picture of him (Kathryn Southard photo) from the Middleburg Classic.
I didn't ever realize there was Paint shows and even World's. I will have to research this out. My daughter has had her paint for the last six years since Sugar was 2. She is the best and a great jumper. They just did there first AA division together and got a 4th o/f out of 20. There were some pretty fancy horses there. Here is a pic of them.
We have a large that is making up into a pretty fancy hunter. He's only five and should mature top-of-the-line (he'll get carded in December). The judges love him.
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I didn't ever realize there was Paint shows and even World's. I will have to research this out. My daughter has had her paint for the last six years since Sugar was 2. She is the best and a great jumper. They just did there first AA division together and got a 4th o/f out of 20. There were some pretty fancy horses there. Here is a pic of them.
To bad the pic was taken a second to late, but that is Gallopprints for ya!
Just so you know there is a big difference between how an APHA Paint hunter show is judged and an open show is judged. At APHA shows the horse that usually wins is going at something a lot closer to a lope than a canter (more Western-ish than the A hunters) and there is generally not a whole lot of impulsion over the fences. I know of several Paints that win on the A circuit and lose at APHA shows and vice versa. Just so ya know what to expect!! A winning APHA hunter is more forward than an APHA western pleasure horse and less forward than an open hunter, in short. At the world shows it is a bit better but at the local APHA shows around here most of the time what wins in the hunters looks darn close to a WP horse dressed in a close contact saddle.
Just so you know there is a big difference between how an APHA Paint hunter show is judged and an open show is judged. At APHA shows the horse that usually wins is going at something a lot closer to a lope than a canter (more Western-ish than the A hunters) and there is generally not a whole lot of impulsion over the fences. I know of several Paints that win on the A circuit and lose at APHA shows and vice versa. Just so ya know what to expect!! A winning APHA hunter is more forward than an APHA western pleasure horse and less forward than an open hunter, in short. At the world shows it is a bit better but at the local APHA shows around here most of the time what wins in the hunters looks darn close to a WP horse dressed in a close contact saddle.
Thanks for the info, the beauty about our Sugar is that she is broke Western first then English. So she can show both ways, she usually does better in the Pleasure horse hacks than the hunter ones because she is so laid back hacking.
Just so you know there is a big difference between how an APHA Paint hunter show is judged and an open show is judged. At APHA shows the horse that usually wins is going at something a lot closer to a lope than a canter (more Western-ish than the A hunters) and there is generally not a whole lot of impulsion over the fences. I know of several Paints that win on the A circuit and lose at APHA shows and vice versa. Just so ya know what to expect!! A winning APHA hunter is more forward than an APHA western pleasure horse and less forward than an open hunter, in short. At the world shows it is a bit better but at the local APHA shows around here most of the time what wins in the hunters looks darn close to a WP horse dressed in a close contact saddle.
I can attest to this, it is the same as QH hunters. I did great in the O/F classes, pinned first and second, but when it came to the undersaddle class, I finished dead last. I was busy lapping everyone at the trot and the canter. It was beyond embarrassing, I am surprised the judge could even see the other horses with me "running" around the middle of the arena.
APHA & AQHA are judged very similar - on western principles. Even the horse's head set is more "western". The Pinto Association is a little different (or at least they say they are) they say they judge the horse on it's type - hunter, stock, pleasure, etc. Seems like that depends in what part of the country you are in. This year we did one Pennsylvania Pinto Show and I was less than impressed. We insteaded opted for the OCAP Program with the Pinto Association and were able to use the rated shows to accumalate points on my horse's show record. http://www.pinto.org/ocap.html This is the first year doing this so I'll let you know how it goes at the end of the year.
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i'm the girl from the hunting horn tack shop......I have an art deco grandson who is Fantabulous! He jumps a 10 and is an 8 mover. A little bit of a slow learner, but has a heart of gold. Once he gets it, it's all good! He has a ring presence about him that can't be learned. it comes naturally. he makes you want to watch him. he has a personality bigger than anything and i just love him to death!
Be careful of Paint and Pinto. They really are two complety different registries and saying something is a Paint, for example, may not be true at all. Rules for one world show may not be the same as the other...just because the Pinto World show does not require qualification does not mean the Paint World show does not.
I may be out of date, been years since I showed these but...Pinto is for horses of color and is split into Saddle, Hunt and Stock (western) types. Can be anything from Saddlebreds to Morgans to colored TBs, WBs and whatever meets the requirements for color. No particular bloodline requirements for geldings and relatively easy to get in with unknown parentage and with an older horse. You do not have to qualify for their World Show.
Paints are specifically QH type and must have QH, Paint and (I still think) TB ancestry. They do not need to be viseably marked...may just be high white or have a belly spot. They have a breeding stock designation for those with proper parentage and no white. There are bloodline requirements for registry and hardship cases are difficult and expensive to register. I believe you do need to qualify in at least the more popular classes to go to Worlds.
They are not the same. At all. I showed in both and the Paint was more competitive and type specific. The Pinto was a little less high powered and more varied in type. And, yes, many do both and may be double registered if also in their respective breed stud book/registry.
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We have a couple who are not stock horse types at all. The first Pinto we produced was sold as a Hunter and I believe competes in the Childrens. We are just starting her full sister now and she is a very nice mover and jumper. Remember though, a Paint is a breed and is basicly a QH colored, a Pinto is the color and can be any breed. Since ours are WBs they are Pintos, not Paints.
We find that most people are more concerned with the horse and how it goes, rather than what color it is.
In answer to the original post - not sure where the big ones are. We own an adorable small pinto pony that I swear by.
I can recommend a great kids 2007 movie (that I adored) by the name of "moondance alexander". The best (perhaps only) english horse movie that I have seen.
And they replied that I did not need to be qualified. All I needed was a current registration and membership, and a Pinto registration. Wow! Coming from the AHSA/USEF background, I had thought that there was no way in this lifetime that I'd ever get to a World show, but given the requirments, I might just have to put Oklahoma on my calendar! And in my goals!
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