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    My old eventing trainer trained and showed a 17.2 palomino through Grand Prix many years ago and sold him for a BIG PRICE then to pay for her daughter's college tuition. He was technically a QH - but by breeding about 15/16ths TB. I would imagine these days a Palomino WB would do even better, all things being equal. I think color is less of a barrier, though a few judges still seem to harbor some faint prejudice against Appies. Art Deco appears to have made the world safe for Pintos. There's only one quite older judge whom I've ever heard express an "anti-Palomino" bias, and even that was quite some time ago and others assure me that he no longer feels that way.



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    Any color is fine in my book. Some paints have patterns that may give optical illusions, maybe worth more consideration.



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    As long as he moves nice ,who cares about the colour?.
    Every time you ride, your are either teaching or un-teaching your horse.



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    Glitter Please never seemed to have any problems!
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    I don't think that score should somehow depend on color, If the horse shows perfect dressage abilites! In Eastern Europe it is well know that warmblood horse can have palomino color comes through Akhal-Teke blood through the mare Ennam.

    Also it is fact that pure blood of Akhal-Teke horses can be used for Warmblood breeding the same way as TB or Arabs.

    Thus in 2007 an Akhal-Teke stallion from Russia, Saad-Shael has been approved for Danish Palomino Association ( DPA) and he was awarded with the title; Stallion of the Year 2007.
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    Color is not a factor that judges look at. Dressage is based on quality of gaits and correctness of them.
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    I want a Palomino sporthorse!!! I have it on great authority that dressage judges HATE Palomino warmbloods therefore I think that you should give him to me and I will event him
    RIP Kid Gloves (Holly) 1992 TBxHanv CCI*** mare.
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    New mare: Miss Bunny Express (Missy) 1995 AQHA Jumper mare.
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    I've never had an issue with low scoring for less common colors. The less common colors have gotten so popular now though that there are breeders who are breeding for color at the expense of quality. And yes, those horses will probably score lower. I was in love with a little palomino German Riding Pony. If only I had $50,000!



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    Well, tx3dayE, if you had the gorgeous, chestnut, TB mare you could consider breeding to APS Dallas in Australia = www.horsedeals.com.au

    He has some tough Australian stock in him plus warmblood.



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    Is he half American Saddlebred?
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    oh I loff him! I have a bay mare, if that counts Too bad he is literally 1/2 a world away.
    RIP Kid Gloves (Holly) 1992 TBxHanv CCI*** mare.
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    Yes...I know it shouldnt matter about the colour,....it is the ability!

    He is mine and not for sale haha He is only 2 years....has amazing movement and temperament ...and comformation is fab!

    BUT I have heard little snippets saying that dressage judges will mark him down for colour, if they dont like coloured dressage horses!!! I mean WHO CARES as I will compete him anyways,...but love to hear opinions...also from any JUDGES out there????



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    Default palominos

    Oh I would love to have a palomino and I would not expect him to be marked down for the color at all.



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    APS DAllas is a holsteiner through Coriander. His mother was a TB x Stock horse, I think. He's in Australia, and I apologise for the website - it is rather difficult to navigate. You even have to sign on to seee his video which put me off. I believe it would have to be a chestnut mare for palomino colour. He belongs to a friend of mine, that's why I mentioned him - but then I don't know how import permits go for semen from overseas. I was thinking he would be tough enough to be an eventer.



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    TK...GORGEOUS stallion!
    And yes I would imagine he would have the dilute colour to carry on to throw palli babies. My boys sire is also a buckskin.

    My boy would do well in any discipline....eventing, dressage, hacking. Very nuch a sporthorse type...pity I cant post some pics here



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    I've got a Palomino that I compete. Tho mine is not a WB. Every so often a horse in the warmup will freakout over palomino color, they get really big and scared, like he's an alien. It's never been a problem with the judges....they enjoy change of pace. Tho there are more and more WB of color now adays. Isn't it great?



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    Hi SUnny...the only trick is to keep them clean!

    Ever had a judge mark you down??? And what elvel are you competing hima t?

    I dont mind scaring some horses haha



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    Loved this thread...my daughter rides a grulla paint (with blue eyes, no less) in the hunter ring. I have been told that hunter judges may be biased against paints and pintos. He jumps so cute and she usually pins well in B and C shows (did ok in an A), but wondering what others' experiences have been. My daughter would like to give Large Pony Hunters a shot since he can do the 3 foot, but I wonder how he'll measure up against all those bays and greys.



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    Funny, I was just joking about dying my palamino to bay coloring this evening with my trainer. (I was kidding) This thread is so refreshing as I really thought he'd do better if he was a bay horse! I'm glad I'm wrong!
    I love palaminos and I'm glad biases are being lifted!
    To those of a different (blond) color!!



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