So we recently added another mare to the family, and are having a hard time finding a dressage saddle to fit her. She is a welsh/tb cross and has a fairly wide back and really no pronounced wither. So what are you welsh cob people using for saddles? We have tried a m/w Albion, Dominus, and a wide Frank Baines, all of which tip you forward while riding. So, Any suggestions out there? Thanks! And here's a picture of her.
She came to us this spring as an event prospect for my youngest daughter. To be frank, I have fallen in love with this cross ~ a ton of "bounce per ounce" and as brave and true to a fence as the day is long.
Now, to find a dressage saddle that will fit them properly!
I have the following: Niedersuss Symphonie wide tree, Niedersuss Olympique wide tree, Keith Bryan Santis wide tree. I have found the Albion SL wide tree to work OK and I've used my friends HDR wide tree on one of mine as well. The Keith Bryan was a custom fit. The others were all "off the rack". I have friends who swear by the Black Country line of dressage saddle for their welsh cobs too.
I have a Welsh Cob and have had much success with Prestige. My previous saddle was a 2000D and it was wonderful, he did grow out of it and my new saddle is a Prestige Doge, which is very similar to the optimax. It's a 34 cm.
Hope this helps you!
I ended up w/ a Black Country Equinox....might not be a good choice if you plan to show. It's technically an endurance saddle made for Trumbull Mtn....
But my guy is so short and round I have to ride w/ a shorter stirrup to compensate and couldn't get my knees back behind the dressage blocks....
According to the folks at Trumbull Mtn., the Equinox CAN be made without the d-rings and in a varitey of leather choices--they told me they sell a lot of customized Equinox saddles to dressage riders (the close contact of the monoflap is nice). I tried both the Equinox and the Eloquence X (the dressage model with a hoop tree). I liked both, but eventually decided to get the Eloquence X. Since most of my horses are short backed as well as wide, I got the upswept panels instead of the normal gusseted panels. Black Country shipped my customized saddle three weeks after I ordered it!
(I also tried a Duett model, but found it too hard in the seat for me. YMMV)
Barnsby saddles are pretty good for the Welshy and Welshy crosses.
The Raven and the Luxus would be worth looking at as they both have short points on the tree which accommodtes those big-moving shoulders. I don't think they make the Raven now but you would probably find one second hand.
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Not Welsh, but cobs... Stupid-wide...
Treeless such as the Fhoenix is fabulous.
~Duett fit horse but not rider
~Prestige, ditto. I will/would try again with different models, as I too need the more forward flap due to stupid-wideness.
~Reactor Panel was fabulous until we outgrew the tree (at age 9--work not 'growth')
~Passier-withOUT gussets is the Three Bears' Porridge. #5 tree, widened.
Sent my Welsh/TB pony's tracings off to Pelham Saddlery a few years ago and the only thing they found to fit her was a Wide Neidersuss Symphonie. Lucky for me I absolutely love it. It fits her like a glove.