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    Default SO how many poeple on this board think it is okay to raise a foal in a stall

    I'll go further....a stall that is say, 12x12, with some lunging time. YES, lunging time. (forget the proper "lunge" spelling.

    Just curious, as I was told that it is JUST FINE to raise a baby like that and it will just as healthy as mine that are turned out. ???? That being out 24/7 makes no diff when it comes to joints and being kept in a stall. Anyone else believe that is true??
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    OMG are they nuts? Babies need fresh air and they need to be able to run and play, they build stronger bone the more they are out. This person who told you that needs a good swift smack and a clue.
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    All I can say is, "what is this person smoking"? I personally don't think being in the stall all the time is good for any horse.



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    I don't know the impact on the joints, but I really believe that a foal needs to live a horse life with buddies to play with. I would never consider to raise a foal in a stall.

    My colt will live out with buddies untill he turns 2 y.o.



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    I think it's horrible. Why would someone do this? The turn out on good grass in fields is great for developing their bones and muscles. Plus the interaction with other young horses is great for their mental development.

    We do bring all of our kids in for part of the day depending on weather and time of year - but even with our horrible northeast storms - we rarely have more than one day when they don't get turn out. If it gets to 2 days - they go out in the covered arena to run around.
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    NO. Just NO! on so many levels of healthy-foalness I cannot even begin to list them!

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    Did you ask them if they also raised their children in a 12x12 area and never let them out except for and run around the house?

    Mine are out 24/7 with a run in. They come in when they are ready to be started under saddle and then only for max 10 hrs at a time.
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    I can't imagine someone actually believing that ?! I will say that my babies come into stalls for bad weather when they are little babies-severe thunderstorms, ice, etc but I try my hardest to have them out as much as possible. I think most people here would agree that the more turn-out (in the biggest area possible) the better.
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    Also can't imaging the smell of that stall with no time to air out!!!
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    I think that you can risk messing with their natural gaits when they are raised in a stall without adequate turnout.



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    I certainly don't think raising a foal in a stall would be a good thing.

    I am curious though how much outside time is enough?

    When raising show horses (ones that will do in-hand stuff at 1 and 2) making sure they stay un-blemished could be difficult when letting them be out 24-7.

    How do you handle this with show horses?

    I have a hunter futurity nominated foal now, and I don't have access to acres and acres of land to let him roam on, but I do make sure he is out in the grass pasture all day and brought in at night.

    Is this enough? It is better then being in a stall all day, but what about when it is 110 here? I obviously can't put them out during the day? (he'll go out at night)

    So, some places it is very difficult to get them out 24/7, but at what point will it actually affect the foal if he/she is still out and socialized with other horses half the day?

    I know very little about this, but I can't imagine that my foal will have a problem because I can't put him out those extra 6-10 hours everyday.

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    I once worked at a barn that bred a few mares from time to time, and raised the foals on 24/7 stall time, except for the 15 minutes they were turned out in an arena. All of them developed epiphysitis and one that I know of had feet issues, probably navicular, as an adult. So no, if I had to raise a foal in a stall, I wouldn't breed.
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    Exactomundo! don't forget contracted heels, club feet, contracted tendons, restricted muscle development, possibilities of lung problems (ammonia), the list goes on forever. Horses are meant to use their feet and legs from day one - confinement is not only stupid, it's cruelly crippling.

    FWIW, I do not believe that 24/7 turnout is strictly necessary - in poor weather or lousy mud conditions a few hours is sometimes all you can give them! BUT, if I could leave them out on good hard grass the first two years, I'd sure enough do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsecrazy27
    I'll go further....a stall that is say, 12x12, with some lunging time. YES, lunging time. (forget the proper "lunge" spelling.

    Just curious, as I was told that it is JUST FINE to raise a baby like that and it will just as healthy as mine that are turned out. ???? That being out 24/7 makes no diff when it comes to joints and being kept in a stall. Anyone else believe that is true??

    You received some POOR "advice"...........

    (and to longe a baby is really, really nuts)
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    Most of my babies grow up outside 24/7. The ones that grow up with their nights in the stall because of the mare being night blind have to have their feet very closely monitored because they tend to get clubby from being on soft ground (ie. shavings, mats) and not stretching those muscles and tendons enough. I can see the difference in my babies that are outside 24/7 compared to the ones that are in stalls at night. With the outside foals the muscling is better and thus hind leg conformation is better at a younger age while they are growing. They need less trimming and they grow up with nice straight feet and legs.

    Lunging a baby is hard on the joints as we all know and I'm sure even worse when the baby doesn't have strong muscling to help support it's frame.
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    My question is WHY would you want to keep a foal raised in a stall?? They need to streach there legs, enjoy the warmth of laying in the sun, kicking up there heels in play. Blows my mind why someone would keep a foal in the stall-- only makes for more work. Plus it can't be good for the developemnt of the horses hooves to be in a stall 24/7!?

    What was there "logical reasoning" for keeping a foal stalled??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel0309 View Post
    Did you ask them if they also raised their children in a 12x12 area and never let them out except for and run around the house?
    Unfortunately, many children don't care about the run around the house if they have their video games and computers to keep them entertained.

    Fortunately, the Jolly Ball has not managed to be quite so addicting as the XBox........so foals still should be playing in healthy manners and not be turned into stall-spuds.



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    stall????? LUNGEING???????????????? What are they smokin'? or what's in their coffee. I want to know who they are so I will NEVER sell them a youngster - or any other horse for that matter. What are they thinking?????



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    Someone has some SERIOUS problems (like smoking something) if they think that is ok.....



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    there is actually research out there that suggests 10 min trot exercise 5 days a week has no negative effect on weanling/yearlings. They found that it actually grows bone a little faster, and has no affect on tendon/muscle development.

    Not suggesting you lunge your weanling, but there is research out there suggesting it isn't such a terrible thing to do.

    But this is also when the foal is out on pasture as well. It would be a very bad idea to lunge a foal that is only in a stall all day!!



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