The Chronicle of the Horse
MagazineNewsHorse SportsHorse CareCOTH StoreVoicesThe Chronicle UntackedDirectoriesMarketplaceDates & Results
 
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 42
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun. 24, 2007
    Posts
    401

    Default Who are the best Sporthorse Breeders in North America?

    In North America who do you feel are some of the best Sporthorse Breeders that are breeding to produce Eventers and/or Show Jumpers?

    I am looking for breeders that display quality mare/foal mangagement skills with focus on superior care. Who are some of the proven breeders that have produced top notch competition horses?

    Preferably I would like the ones that are using Irish horses. I'm not looking for the breeders that are leaving the horses in fields until they are three, untouched. Would like the ones that are more hands on and thinking about the best interest of the horses from the start.



  2. #2

    Default Well You Can't Go Wrong.....

    with Denny & May Emmerson at http://www.tamarackhill.com/



  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct. 4, 2003
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Posts
    7,413

    Default

    Most of the jumper breeding programs are fairly young, although the Cudmores & The Oaks come to mind. The well established / best known farms are primarily dressage - i.e. Hilltop & Iron Spring. Acorn Hill has an Irish sporthorse breeding program. There are many up-and-coming jumpers breeders who have started with an outstanding mare base and just need time for the youngsters to get to the ring - Silver Creek Farms, Crooked Willow, October Hill, Hans DeGroot, Winley, etc.

    You may find difference in opinion about letting young horses grow up on pasture versus being stalled and being handled daily versus being handled routinely. The smaller breeders with 1 to 2 foals per year are more likely to have foals raised with stall/turn-out and handled daily, but that is not always the case.

    We foal out in the barn, but the foals live out 24/7 once they are 3 weeks old. They receive routine care (farrier, vaccinations, worming, etc.) and are fed twice a day to supplement the pasture. We strongly believe that pasture raised foals are healthier and have less problems with joints, upper respiratory, ulcers, etc. We have also found that an overhandled foal is more difficult in the long run. The winter of their 2 year old year, they receive 90 days training (mostly ground work) and then go back to pasture for 6 months. The summer of their 3 year old, they come live in the barn and go into training.



  4. #4
    Join Date
    Oct. 16, 2002
    Posts
    1,771

    Default

    Thanks, Soo Coo, for your kind endorsement, but I am a stallion owner more than a breeder.
    Breeders are those intrepid souls who pick the mares, select the stallions, and take the huge risks, months, actually years at a time, to produce the young horses.
    We`ve bred a few, over the years, but not as an enterprise, more just for our own use.
    Stallion owners are a resource for breeders, is how I would put it.



  5. #5
    Join Date
    Oct. 6, 2004
    Location
    NASCAR HELL
    Posts
    1,801

    Default

    Don't listen to Denny.....two of them have already responded to you!! Don't leave Edgar out of the mix either. Rainbow Equus Meadows

    Denny I noticed some of the Ferme Beaulieu infusion in your lines!! AWESOME
    I dream of the Pumuckl backend although I don't know if I could ride it!! HA HA
    The rider casts his heart over the fence,
    the horse jumps in pursuit of it.

    –Hans-Heinrich Isenbart



  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov. 1, 2007
    Posts
    168

    Default

    I second Edgar he is great. Also, Windsor Farm is producing some amazing show jumpers. As well as Hidden Pearl farm.



  7. #7
    Join Date
    Nov. 24, 2006
    Posts
    450

    Default

    It is easiest for me to think of a top horse - and then backtrack.

    "Jam" - Bruce Davidson (Sr) has some nice homebreds.

    "Three wishes" - Acornhill farm - stallion owner/breeder in VA. They are a sponsor of the YEH series. I think they have Irish bloodlines as well as some Hanoverian lines.

    "Le Samurai" - Wendy Webster - Holsteiner breeder in CA. She also imported "Lady Calido".
    www.clearbluefarm.com - a work in progress



  8. #8
    Join Date
    Mar. 27, 2001
    Location
    Between the Medina River and a hay field
    Posts
    9,894

    Default

    You will find most of the BWP stallions are primarly (not all, must most) jumpers. If I were looking for a jumper, Id start here with these two registires.

    http://www.belgianwarmblood.com/stallions.htm

    http://www.sellefrancais.org/stallionpage.htm

    And start looking up the farms/breeders that are listed on those sites. Those two registries offer some of the top/proven jumper blood in North America (most of those bloodlines proven international as well).

    Also look here and double back to some of the farms the horses are associated with or bred by-
    http://www.youngjumpers.com/

    Good luck! There are some super blood out there now. SUPER! Just in the last two years the stallion base in North America and the breeding base alone has doubled. More quality mares are being used now and the stallions being used in breeding programs (fresh and frozen) are super. Look around, Im sure you can find something very nice.

    www.spindletopfarm.net
    Home of Puerto D'Azur - 1998 NA 100 Day Test Champion
    "Charcter is much easier kept than recovered"



  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jun. 24, 2007
    Posts
    401

    Default Sporthorse Breeders

    showjumper66-

    Agree with you 100%, perhaps I need to rephrase what I said earlier. I DO think it is better that the youngsters live out as long as their health is being taken care of. Making sure they are being fed their supplements and looked after in the fields. I have had some experience with breeders cutting corners on good nutrition for babies and many different types of things show up in the future when that is done. Just want to make sure we are talking about the top-notch breeders here!

    Thank you for all your responses! Keep them coming.....



  10. #10

    Default

    Thanks, Soo Coo, for your kind endorsement, but I am a stallion owner more than a breeder.
    Breeders are those intrepid souls who pick the mares, select the stallions, and take the huge risks, months, actually years at a time, to produce the young horses.
    We`ve bred a few, over the years, but not as an enterprise, more just for our own use.
    Stallion owners are a resource for breeders, is how I would put it.
    Opps, sorry Denny! Its just that getting anything from YOU is a dream of mine!! I'm hoping for the day I can breed my little Connemara TB cross to Formula One and one day attending one of your clinics!!



  11. #11
    Join Date
    Oct. 4, 2003
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Posts
    7,413

    Default

    Ahhh ...

    Hidden Creek is another. ClearBlue might have the right idea to work backwards!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanga View Post
    showjumper66-

    Agree with you 100%, perhaps I need to rephrase what I said earlier. I DO think it is better that the youngsters live out as long as their health is being taken care of. Making sure they are being fed their supplements and looked after in the fields. I have had some experience with breeders cutting corners on good nutrition for babies and many different types of things show up in the future when that is done. Just want to make sure we are talking about the top-notch breeders here!

    Thank you for all your responses! Keep them coming.....



  12. #12
    Join Date
    Oct. 6, 2004
    Location
    NASCAR HELL
    Posts
    1,801

    Default

    That is why I love being a mare owner....the ability to work backwards is SOO much fun.

    The day might come when I am physically FORCED to stand a stallion but I much prefer the fun of the selection process for my mares. Now I have 2 more young ones coming along!! WHOOOOOO

    All you stallion owners will just LOVE me!
    The rider casts his heart over the fence,
    the horse jumps in pursuit of it.

    –Hans-Heinrich Isenbart



  13. #13
    Join Date
    Dec. 25, 2002
    Location
    Georgia
    Posts
    2,677

    Default

    I think Bannockburn Farm is one of the best sporthorse breeding programs in the US. Allyn and Fletcher use fantastic bloodlines to produce performers. In 2007, Bannockburn Farm bred horses did the following:

    Ali Baba B, USDF HORSE OF THE YEAR at 2nd level in 2007 as well as winning both VINTAGE CUPS for his owner and trainer at both 1st and 2nd level.

    Dante B (showing as Dorv'dor) was the champion for best performance at the Midwest final of the INTERNATIONAL JUMPING FUTURITY.

    Centurion B was the second place winner of the YJC 5YO Midwestern League Finals in 2007.

    Cinnamon B placed in both the Training Level Southwest Dressage Championships and the Region 9/Great American Championships with scores of 67%.



  14. #14
    Join Date
    Apr. 6, 2006
    Location
    Plainview, MN
    Posts
    3,589

    Default

    The USEF webiste lists the leading breeders for each discipline each year. from 2007 Eventers http://www.usef.org/documents/points/Eventing.pdf and Jumpers http://www.usef.org/documents/points/Jumper.pdf

    As you can see, many KWPN breeders in the Jumper rankings, ISF is #6 even thoough some people think of them as primarily a dressage breeder (they are #4 in the dssage breeder ranking for 2007). The KWPN is the #1 Jumper studbok in the world



  15. #15
    Join Date
    Aug. 10, 2007
    Location
    Ontario
    Posts
    92

    Default

    W. Charlot Farms up here in Canada is definately one of the number one places in North America. Thier stallions include the late Rio Grande, Cabardino (hunter), Viva Voltaire, Vasco Da Gama, and Futurist. They've been the 2004 , 2005, 2006 & 2007 Leading Breeder of Hunters (USEF).

    Rio's Ramona (aka "Catwalk" - Winner of a $70,000 WC Qualifier and a $100,000 WC Qualifier) was bred by them and is currently doing very well in Grand Prix
    They also bred Mill Creek Sparky, an international jumper and they bred dozens of up and coming horses who have been doing well in the Ontario Young Horse Development Series.

    There's a lot more information on thier website
    http://www.charlotfarm.com/index.htm



  16. #16
    Join Date
    Mar. 6, 2002
    Location
    The Bayou City
    Posts
    3,800

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Clear Blue View Post
    It is easiest for me to think of a top horse - and then backtrack.

    "Jam" - Bruce Davidson (Sr) has some nice homebreds.
    .

    Coolest mare EVER!!!!!!!!!!!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "There is just as much horse sense as ever, but the horses have most of it"



  17. #17
    Join Date
    Nov. 24, 2006
    Posts
    450

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Renae View Post
    The USEF webiste lists the leading breeders for each discipline each year. from 2007 Eventers http://www.usef.org/documents/points/Eventing.pdf and Jumpers http://www.usef.org/documents/points/Jumper.pdf

    As you can see, many KWPN breeders in the Jumper rankings, ISF is #6 even thoough some people think of them as primarily a dressage breeder (they are #4 in the dssage breeder ranking for 2007). The KWPN is the #1 Jumper studbok in the world
    While I have no comment about the USEF jumper rankings, the USEF Eventing rankings are useless. Horses that are ranked in the top 20 in the USEA (and pretty high in the world FEI rankings), are way down on the USEF rankings. Horses that have wins at Training and Preliminary level are ranked higher than horses who have second places at Advanced and CIC3*'s.
    www.clearbluefarm.com - a work in progress



  18. #18
    Join Date
    Mar. 28, 2001
    Location
    Aiken, SC
    Posts
    2,689

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Clear Blue View Post
    While I have no comment about the USEF jumper rankings, the USEF Eventing rankings are useless. Horses that are ranked in the top 20 in the USEA (and pretty high in the world FEI rankings), are way down on the USEF rankings. Horses that have wins at Training and Preliminary level are ranked higher than horses who have second places at Advanced and CIC3*'s.
    USEF's sire list doesn't rank individual current performers. So I'm not sure I understand your post.

    It does rank stallions by assigning points to wins, placings at all levels.
    While it isn't the best tool, it is useful if you want to find a stallion that has multiple offspring doing well at all levels.
    Perhaps you are objecting to the points given for low level wins, placings?



  19. #19
    Join Date
    Apr. 25, 2000
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    25

    Default

    Okanagan Show Jumpng Stables is a large breeding farm in British Columbia. They represent Studbook Zangersheide and breed horses with some of the best bloodlines in North America. The website address is www.okshowjumping.com



  20. #20
    Join Date
    Nov. 24, 2006
    Posts
    450

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by PineTreeFarm View Post
    USEF's sire list doesn't rank individual current performers. So I'm not sure I understand your post.

    It does rank stallions by assigning points to wins, placings at all levels.
    While it isn't the best tool, it is useful if you want to find a stallion that has multiple offspring doing well at all levels.
    Perhaps you are objecting to the points given for low level wins, placings?
    An indvidual horse's points are attributed to its breeder. When a horse is 20th on the USEA list, 20th on the FEI list for US bred horses - and then 48th for the USEF list - the breeder is also ranked 48th on the USEF list.
    www.clearbluefarm.com - a work in progress



Similar Threads

  1. ? For all you Jumper Breeders out there.
    By Oldenburg Mom in forum Sport Horse Breeding
    Replies: 151
    Last Post: Sep. 8, 2003, 10:54 AM
  2. Report from the USAE Breeders Committee
    By CM Frank in forum Sport Horse Breeding
    Replies: 407
    Last Post: Aug. 10, 2003, 07:33 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
randomness