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    Default A visit with Spanish Mustangs

    I got the a-okay from the Moderator to post this, so I'm happy to be able to share!

    We stopped by Rainbows End Farm on the way to our holiday ventures to meet daydream believer and her family, their horses and to learn a little more about barefoot trimming (our newest embark). We had a wonderful time (very gracious hosts) and got to meet some really neat horses. I don't know how many of you are familiar with the breed (I had only "met" one before) but they are really amazing animals. Sweet, sound, curious, graceful, agile, and did I mention curious? We got to meet Cayuse Gold and his "mares" and children, and some of her adopted horses. They put on a great show for us, and luckily we had a new digital camera handy. I thought you all might like to see some Spanish mustangs at play...
    Here is the link http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/ii170/okgottago/ and I hope it works...this is 60 of over 400 pictures we took. Hope you all enjoy them even a little bit as much as we did in person!

    I also wanted to say thank you again to Sharon (and Tim) for putting up with us and our whimpery lab so close to Christmas!!



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    Sounds like a fantastic visit. Off to check out your pics now!
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    http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/i...t=IMG_0311.jpg

    Now that is a seriously cool pic!
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    Julie, thanks for your kind words about my farm, horses and hospitality. It was great having you visit and getting to share my passion...the Spanish Mustangs...with you and your husband.

    I extend this invitation to anyone coming our way also. As far as I know, we have more horses of this endangered breed in one place than anyone in the Mid Atlantic and love to introduce folks to the horses.

    Wynn...can you tell that my babies love visitors? I could not begin to pic a favorite hardly of all those great photos but the ones of the babies are great! They are pretty spoiled!

    The gray Arabian in the early pics is a stallion that we are boarding now. His name is Europia...pure Polish strain and was US top ten english pleasure I think at one point some years ago. He is the only non Spanish Mustang in those pics.



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    Lovely photos (and horses!) looks like you had a great visit.
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    I have a weanling filly from DB... and I am ENTRANCED!

    They are different. I think she is an old soul in a weanling body.

    I handled her for the breed demo at Equine Affaire... this filly who had never been off the farm took every bit of it in stride and took the lead. Bold, sensitive... She strutted around the main colloseum... just being 5 months old or so, when she was done, she was DONE My quarter definitely ran out... that was funny too. But I expected a lot--and got a ton more than I expected.

    What I really am amazed at is their movement too. Very baroque, lovely, lovely movers in great sized package. Cisco was being ridden in the same ring as a lovely Buckskin Luso stallion--and the resemblance was wild. "Mini-me".

    I hope more folks find out what a wonderful affordable, athletic option these horses are. Breeders like DB are not served by the breed as a whole, becuase the big ranches are way undercutting prices--I've got to say that's good for US though, because for now they are one of the most affordable, talented options out there!

    I originally got my filly with plans to cross her with PRE and PSL. I still intend to do that, but am really becoming a fan of the breed, and can see myself trying to help preserve that too by staying purebred.

    I need to get current pics. Life is chaos at the moment... but if you just roached her mane, you could COMPLETELY pass her off for a PSL filly. No doubt the genetics on these guys. Problematic that some folks don't realize the *difference* between Colonial Spanish and BLM Mustangs--who have had lots of other genetics introduced (not a bad thing, but there's a pretty big difference!) I think folks like DB and some of the other breeders out there competing in open competition, doing the demos and expos is going to go a LONG way toward getting these guys in front of Sport Horse folks!

    Adding--this is my filly's full sister--a year older. How cool is she???
    http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1198969171
    http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/i...t=IMG_0347.jpg
    http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1198969362
    http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/i...t=IMG_0124.jpg
    http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1198969472

    EXCELLET photos Okgo!

    Sorry, this ended up being a gush... I really thought it would be quite a few years before lighting struck, and DB had another filly--I asked for dibs if she did after seeing last years--but during the Nor'Easter this April, my little girl appeared, and while I didn't think the timing was right... it couldnt' have been more right. I'm SO GLAD I didn't wait for 'more perfect' circumstances... She's amazing, and I have soooo many hopes and dreams and plans for her future!
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    Jaeme,

    Thanks so much for the endorsement of Colonial Spanish horses. I'm so glad you have now been adopted by a Col. Spanish horse. It's hard to explain to people how "different" they are...it takes getting to know one or working with one...and they are very addictive!

    It was really cool to see Cisco side by side with a Luso wasn't it? It was like big and little brother...so much alike and clearly related. There is no denying the spanish blood in these little survivors since the times of the Spanish Conquest.

    BTW..that fourth photo is not her. That is my white mare Sierra.



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    I am so glad that Sharon's horses are getting out into the world.

    I also own several, including a breeding stallion, who was First Premium approve by the ASPR. I ended up letting he breeding license lapse though, as I'm just not set up to produce a lot of babies. I board...

    My boy has had some very nice comments from his first few dressage schooling shows and is just starting to get a mature look to him. He will be 5 in the spring. I think Cisco has a couple of year on him!

    We've also done a couple of years of our Expo here in Oregon. To the point that people now know that I am "the Spanish Mustang lady" and if they get me talking, I might not stop.

    While some of the larger breeders do, in fact, have cheaper pricing than either Sharon or I, you are getting a horse that has had less handling and care than ours... I wouldn't say that they are so much undercutting us, but more that their horses are the "diamonds in the rough." My two came from my uncle's ranch with just a bit of halter training. In fact, I went out and halter trained my stallion as a long yearling with my uncle's help. He had not been touched before. Horses like that do need to be handled with a little more knowledge than the average weanling or yearling that has been halter trained from the start. As in all things, you pay for the training on a horse!

    There are individuals in the breed that are very versatile and can be used for driving, dressage, jumping, endurance and still be the family horse. We are still at the point of being small and not having a lot of horses out there proving themselves in competition yet. A lot of owners just like to enjoy their horses and do no more than pleasure ride. I hope that will start to change as these next few years go by. (Not the pleasure riding is bad, but it doesn't do as much as showing can to promote a small breed...)

    More info on the breed can be found here:
    http://spanishmustang.org/
    http://www.horseoftheamericas.com/index.htm
    http://raresteeds.com/Breeds/spanish_mustang.htm

    I loved the photos of the boy running around. It certainly looked like they enjoyed showing off!
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    PintoPiaffe,
    yes yes YES!! Your fillies fully sister is absolutely stunning, beatiful correct floating movement, and such presence! Believe me, I think the first thing I asked DDB was "is this one for sale?" I'm 5'10" (with holiday weight right now ) and hubby is about my size and both of us were scratching our heads wondering how we would look riding a 14.2 SM. They are absolutely captivating. I think Saphiro http://www.raineyvalleyfarm.com/stallions/saphiro.htm would cross nicely with one

    I broke a zebra dun/buckskin mare that my friend got from a PMU farm. She had no idea the breeding but I would put money on it she is full SM. She had that look that lures you in, big expressive curious eyes. Working with her was VERY different then the WBs and TBs I'm used to. She was very smart and I could almost see her thinking. I finally realized the best way to work with her was to let her think it was her idea (even if it was mine- or atleast I thought it was!!) and then she gave 120% but when I pushed her "against her will" she would absolutely question every bit of it. No aggression, could be called stubborn, but in reality she just had a mind of her own and appreciated being a part of the equation rather than being told what to do. I'll see if I can find some pictures of her....

    Also, I think I have a nice trot shot of that cremello, I'll look for that too, and post it.

    Hope you all are enjoying the pictures and that they help to capture the breed a bit
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    Hi all.

    As a Colonial Spanish owner - thought I'd join in here. I honestly think what newcomers to Colonial Spanish find is - aside from their natural athletic ability and other excellent sporthorse qualities - many Colonial Spanish have "IT" - natural charisma, beauty and pride that make people stop and stare.

    I own a 7 year old Colonial Spanish gelding named Billy Jack. It's funny, in the case of Billy Jack, he's a very mild-mannered horse - but nonetheless - he has "IT". He will stop traffic. Literally. Not kidding! LOL!

    Together with DB and her stallion Cisco, we exhibited this summer at the Kentucky Horse Park - the same weekend as the Pony Club Finals. The Pony Clubbers went wild over both Cisco and Billy Jack. The staffers at KHP loved Cisco and Billy Jack too - and they aren't easily impressed - given the quantity and quality of horses they see routinely.

    After our exhibition - I was asked by the staff to loan Billy Jack to the Kentucky Horse Park for their 2008 season - to represent the Colonial Spanish in the Breeds Barn/Parade of Breeds. My Nokota gelding Blue Moon Rising was on-loan to KHP in 2007 and asked to return in 2008. So, I'm pretty familiar with qualities they are looking for in resident exhibition horses.

    So honestly, I wasn't really surprised the Kentucky Horse Park asked for Billy Jack as well. But I am very excited he'll be there to help promote the Colonial Spanish. These horses are woefully under-valued, over-looked and endangered. Hopefully, this will change the more people realize their potential.

    This is Billy Jack...
    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...7/DSCF2396.jpg
    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...7/DSCN0334.jpg
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    Mao- cool horse!!

    Okay...here is DDB's cremello yearling http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/i...emellotrot.jpg

    and here is that zebra dun I posted about above
    http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/i...=dtobheads.jpg
    http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/i...=tcanter10.jpg
    http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/i...ent=ttrot3.jpg
    and even with that trot, she was the smoothest horse I've ever ridden. Moreso then my hubbies TWH as she didn't get that "flat tire" feeling ever.

    and lastly...my personal favorite picture http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/i...t=IMG_0163.jpg



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    Quote Originally Posted by okggo View Post
    PintoPiaffe,
    yes yes YES!! Your fillies fully sister is absolutely stunning, beatiful correct floating movement, and such presence! Believe me, I think the first thing I asked DDB was "is this one for sale?"
    I could have sold her a dozen times now but I MUST keep her. I would have killed for her to be a colt! UGH...3 fillies in a row from this cross so far...everyone...think COLT this year! This filly is one that I might try and put in training with a FEI trainer if I can figure out how to pay for it.

    BTW...this filly is one of two we are taking to the Sport Horse Stallion Show next weekend. God Knows how I will get her clean but hopefully I won't be looked down on too bad if she's a bit dirty this time of the year. My kids live outside and they are hairy yak ponies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mao View Post
    Hi all.

    Together with DB and her stallion Cisco, we exhibited this summer at the Kentucky Horse Park - the same weekend as the Pony Club Finals. The Pony Clubbers went wild over both Cisco and Billy Jack. The staffers at KHP loved Cisco and Billy Jack too - and they aren't easily impressed - given the quantity and quality of horses they see routinely.

    After our exhibition - I was asked by the staff to loan Billy Jack to the Kentucky Horse Park for their 2008 season - to represent the Colonial Spanish in the Breeds Barn/Parade of Breeds. My Nokota gelding Blue Moon Rising was on-loan to KHP in 2007 and asked to return in 2008. So, I'm pretty familiar with qualities they are looking for in resident exhibition horses.
    Margaret...Billy is such a gem! I really enjoyed riding at KHP "behind the scenes" as an exhibitor. I've never done anything like that before and it was so much fun. I think we have started something that we must keep up now to spread the word on these horses. I figure the two events I want to do next year are KHP and the Equine Affaire again. I think they were great successes and very worthy of the time and effort.

    Keeping Billy there on site in the Breed Barn will be an wonderful thing also to help introduce people to Colonial Spanish horses. You are very generous to do that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Simrat View Post
    I am so glad that Sharon's horses are getting out into the world.

    I also own several, including a breeding stallion, who was First Premium approve by the ASPR. I ended up letting he breeding license lapse though, as I'm just not set up to produce a lot of babies. I board...

    My boy has had some very nice comments from his first few dressage schooling shows and is just starting to get a mature look to him. He will be 5 in the spring. I think Cisco has a couple of year on him!
    Thanks Simrat...anything anyone does to get the horses out is good for everyone else... Cisco is 6 now...turning seven and that extra maturity does make a huge difference. Paisano will come into his own with time.



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    Default CS horses

    I have to add my two cents worth in here as this is a nice discussion on our horses.

    Yes, they are diamonds in the rough, some rougher than others, but look past all that and you will find horses with conformation that old timers will tell you is rarely seen anymore. Horses with huge oversteps, quality feet, sensible brains, full of self preservation, and natural beauty and presence.

    I am almost 5 '9'', and ride a 14.2 hand CS gelding. Because of the uphill conformation and big strides of our 'little' horses, I never have felt like I am riding a small horse. My horse has as much or more suspension than other larger breeds. His presence and uphill carriage makes our picture together balanced. So don't worry too much about size. By the way, some of these horses are getting bigger and bigger so there are larger CS out there, but 14.2 being an averaged size. I will be getting a coming 3 year old filly in a few months that is 15.1. A bit large for the breed but her movement and flashy looks will be turning heads.

    An ivitation is open for anyone to come visit the Colonial Spanish horses in the northeast. I am located in Vermont. There is a picture of me and my grey gelding on the home page on www.red-road-farm.com) He was just four in the picture.

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    Vtblackpony is the rider/Colonial Spanish combo I saw at Equine Affaire that I raved about. What a lovely young gelding she has! And I would say Steph is a 'tall, leggy' type rider, but did not look under-horsed at all. Yes, her leg hung a tad low, but that is a useful leg too.

    Okggo, I LOFF your photos. That trot pic is AWESOME! I am soooo inspired by my girl's full sis--you have to remember that Promise is not-quite-two yet either... Lots and lots of growing and maturing yet to come.

    For me, a Colonial Spanish filly seemed like a great choice... I can go in either the Sportpony direction with her, or the Iberian direction.

    Belle, the yearling filly who was also at EA had a super, super mind, and very elegant, baroque good looks and movement. Honestly, I could pick out a whole handful I'd take home in a heartbeat.

    I wonder if breeders shouldn't... exploit (for lack of a better word) the roots of these guys. It sure works for the Gypsy cobs, and boy, the right twist on Conquistadors, Native American influences... I dunno. I don't mean that in a *negative* way either. I just know I have fallen prey to some of the 'romance' of them.
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    There are breeders/owners of the CS horses that are working real hard at doing that (i.e.: using their history as a way to recognize the breed). We have a tough nut to crack however. The (negative) stigma attached to our horses goes back hundreds of years. Unlike some of the other rare horses making a name in the world, ours have generations of bad rap. So unfortunate. I just finished reading "THE MUSTANGS" by J.Frank Dobie. This explained it all, prejudices that go WAY back in time. But through perseverance and love for our horses, we (the owners, breeders, registries) are working together for a bright future for the horses. No small job. So you can imagine how exciting is for people like DDB and myself to have our horses in the spotlight, if only for a moment. I have seen changes in just the last few years, but we have a long road ahead. Positive publicity and promotion are going to be our keys to success in bringing the CS horse into todays horse world. And people like you, PP, that see the talent and potential that trots across your field. Glad to have you join us on the journey!



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    [QUOTE=pintopiaffe;2899227]Ihttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1198969472

    pintopiaffe,

    I'm not sure if they're dancing or patroling but I love this "two by twos" picture



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    Those two pair are pretty neat how they have matched up by color. Sometimes I wonder if they do that on purpose. There was a pair of geldings at the Cayuse, both black frame overos. One had a spot on the right side of his belly and the other on the left. They stuck together like glue! I thought that they would have made a nice driving pair. I can't find my picture of the just now though...

    Here are a couple more "two by two" photos. These are horses at the Cayuse Ranch, where it all started.

    http://cayuseranch.com/images-02/G07A.JPG
    http://cayuseranch.com/images-02/L22.JPG
    http://cayuseranch.com/images-02/L24.JPG

    Here is a link to all the photos from that visit....
    http://cayuseranch.com/meeting02.html

    ...and I just couldn't resist posting this one as a finale. It's one of my favorites - three stallions off into the sunset!
    http://cayuseranch.com/images/183.jpg

    Enjoy!
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    It is too bad that "mustang" is in the breed name at all. I think that is really what confuses people, because most will automatically associate the word mustang with the BLM mustangs. And while there are *some* of those out there that are good horses, there are an awful lot of problem animals out there too.

    I really like the look of the CS. A nice size, I like their bone and substance, and just the overall "look and feel" of the breed -- at least from pictures. They look like really pleasant, "doing" animals -- the sort you wouldn't mind spending all day on while you got some work done. I'd love to see some in person.
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