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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by talloaks View Post
    I would still like to know if anyone has had a horse go down when they have had a full "to the bottom" partition in place and secure. Any answers???? I have a full partition in my Kingston and have looked at new ones that only have a partial partition and that is why I an so interested. We have been lucky for the over 30 years plus never to have an incident but have always tied the horses head and used the full partition. Knock on wood!!
    Yes, as I mentioned in my last post, I have not had a horse go down in a full partition, only a partial.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NRB View Post
    I don't hunt, (I event and trail ride) but this is an interesting topic. In my BP trailer I used the velcro ties:
    http://www.sporthorseproducts.com/ti...ailer-tie.html
    Those are the ties I have. I'm surprised they didn't break. I have them as cross ties, too and those have always worked like a charm.



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    Yes, I've had a horse go down with a full partition. Well, it was my truck/trailer but my sister was using it to move her gelding. But if I remember correctly, he got up and seemed just fine. And loaded right back on the next time.
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    Thanks for all the replies. I think now IF or WHEN I order a new Kingston trailer I will have the divider full to the floor instead of the short partitions. If this style has been safe for me for over 30 years with different trailers along the way, I think I will stick with what works for me. Thanks all!
    http://www.talloaksfarm.net ---"Success is not final, failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts." --- Winston Churchill



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    I find two horse trailers and slant load trailers very dangerous. I never tie a horses head into a trailer . In my trailer if they do fall down ... they just get back up.. l I learned this lesson the hard way when a large thbd gelding i had fell down in a slant load and every time he tried to get back up he whacked his back on the partition. He thrashed around like a crazy nag trying to get back up many times until he tired and then when he was exhausted i was able to get into the trailer and undo the slant load partition. People won't understand the dangers of the partitions until they endure one of these incidents.
    I now have a gooseneck 20 ft Exiss stock combo ( which means looks like a fancy horse trailer with a tack room but functional like a stock trailer ) Each horse rides loose so basically it's like travelling in a boxstall. When left to their own choice of how to travel they all end up standing kiddy corner in the box with their butts jammed into a corner .. NOT with their head jammed into a corner so they can feel every whack and bump on their nose if you have to brake suddenly or jam into the chest bar. If you were a horse how many times would like to do that?
    I often buy horses from people who say they won't trailer.... well fact of the business is that they have learned not to get into these small confined spaces where they feel unsafe. They all load and travel just fine in my trailer. Take a ride around in the back of a bumper pull two horse sometime and see what it's like.



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    Ok for the stock trailer, being loose works......but what happens when you have to take more then 1 horse? Do you let them all loose in there together???



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    My trailer has a gate in it so you can make two stalls. I have also had 4 horses in it loose and all worked well...... of course these were not tacked foxhunters on the way to the hunt, or foals in with studs or any other silly combination.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Princess View Post
    I find two horse trailers and slant load trailers very dangerous. I never tie a horses head into a trailer . In my trailer if they do fall down ... they just get back up.. l I learned this lesson the hard way when a large thbd gelding i had fell down in a slant load and every time he tried to get back up he whacked his back on the partition. He thrashed around like a crazy nag trying to get back up many times until he tired and then when he was exhausted i was able to get into the trailer and undo the slant load partition. People won't understand the dangers of the partitions until they endure one of these incidents.
    I now have a gooseneck 20 ft Exiss stock combo ( which means looks like a fancy horse trailer with a tack room but functional like a stock trailer ) Each horse rides loose so basically it's like travelling in a boxstall. When left to their own choice of how to travel they all end up standing kiddy corner in the box with their butts jammed into a corner .. NOT with their head jammed into a corner so they can feel every whack and bump on their nose if you have to brake suddenly or jam into the chest bar. If you were a horse how many times would like to do that?
    I often buy horses from people who say they won't trailer.... well fact of the business is that they have learned not to get into these small confined spaces where they feel unsafe. They all load and travel just fine in my trailer. Take a ride around in the back of a bumper pull two horse sometime and see what it's like.
    I can also make two box stalls in my trailer, but it can also be set up as a 2 horse straight load...depends on the situation as to which I prefer...

    I have hauled horses around for many years...and knock on wood have never had a horse fall and get stuck...

    I will not tie in a box stall, but as I said earlier, always in a straight load...and I have ridden in the back of a 2 horse bumper pull, and I admit it's not much fun... but then again... we have two legs, not four to balance on... and nothing to lean on.

    I'm also a cautious driver when pulling a trailer...I understand that things happen... but for the most part my horses get a nice smooth ride...



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    [QUOTE=JoZ;2830617]
    I have a question for those of you who bed (shavings/sawdust) over mats -- actually two questions. (1) Are all of you in climates where pee or other moisture could FREEZE on the mats and (2) since I am just a visitor to this forum, not someone who hunts -- is it likely that a horse would need to pee after a day of hunting? QUOTE]

    My daughters rodeo mare always peed in the trailer as soon as we loaded to head home. That got us to thinking "would she pee in the trailer in between events if we loaded her?" We tried it, she peed. From that day on we would always put her in the trailer at some point during the day to pee. Guess she had a shy bladder.

    I take the hay which has fallen out of the hay feeder and rake it to butt wall on my slant load trailer. Then I add a couple pitchfork's full of shavings to the pile. This will catch urine and make manure removal easier while keeping the front hooves on good rubber mats. And yes, everything can freeze once it's been on the trailer floor awhile.



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    On the subject of hauling horses and keeping them comfortable.....when I'm hauling and it's dark outside I always leave the horse compartment light on because that reduces the strobe light effect from the lights of passing autos and illuminated parking lots, etc.



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    Yep, I keep the interior lights on as well!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Acertainsmile View Post
    Yep, I keep the interior lights on as well!
    Me too, principally because that way I can see their busy little heads munching hay (or dozing) the rear view mirror.



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    Quote Originally Posted by talloaks View Post
    I would still like to know if anyone has had a horse go down when they have had a full "to the bottom" partition in place and secure. Any answers????
    Yes, while parked at a show. Horse happily munching hay....banging and scraping started, got worse and then silence. He broke his halter, dented the full divider pretty good, and somehow in his twisting and bucking ended up reversed and was looking out the back end. We reckoned he was stung by an insect.

    We do not like leaving horses on the trailers unattended these days.



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