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  1. #1
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    Default Games Trainers Play: The Florida Horse Saga

    My friend is selling a horse in Western KY. She's been talking to a trainer, who is a friend of her trainer back home about buying her horse- who is fairly reasonably priced. She has sent videos, pictures and been outright in her description of the horse.

    The potential buyer has contacted my friend asked her to haul the horse to Florida for them to look at him. She's a poor college student and is seriously considering hauling the horse- but is this normal? How can she approach this with the trainer? What are her options? What would you do? It's going to be a $500+ dollar trip to get the horse down there- does the potential buyer have any monetary responsibilities to see the horse?

    One of the options we're thinking of is telling the buyer that if she buys, she doesn't have to pay any gas money, if she doesn't buy she'll owe my friend. Is this fair?

    What do we do? We've never sold a horse like this before and we're kinda baffled.
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    It does seem a little odd. Why can't the buyer hop in a car and drive up to you? She could even take the bus if she really wanted to see the horse and didn't have a lot of money. Personally, I wouldn't go through all the hassle of trailering all the way to Florida on the chance that she might buy him.



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    that's crazy ... tell the trainer to fly to KY.



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    BULLS**T.

    The only time this is ever done is with trainer as a disclosed agent setting up with another trainer/agent representing the buyer to assure the horse is kept in acceptable conditions and both parties are known to one another.
    The wannabe buyer PAYS for the transportation. BOTH WAYS if it comes back.
    The wannbe buyer LEASES the horse and PAYS a lease fee.
    The wannbe buyer PAYS for insurance.
    All involved parties SIGN a contract. In ADVANCE.

    This one's easy, just say NO.
    When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

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    I would let the potential buyer pick up the tab either way. Youll either ship yourself for $x or contract it. Its not like its a hop, skip, & jump from W KY to FL. Im thinking 14+ hours 1 way.
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    BWAHAHAHAHAHA.... oh sorry. What were you saying?

    Um, no way. If buyer wants to try the horse, buyer gets her bootie up to Kentucky.
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    Red flags........

    Buyer could probably fly up and back twice on a discount carrier for what the gas
    would cost.

    Hauling a 100 miles, maybe......but this seems way over the top. and an invitation for
    your friend to end up out hundreds of dollars.



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    No, this is not normal and is a recipie for heartache for the seller. If the buyer is serious, they will come look at the horse. If she actually hauls the horse all the way to FL - a crappy long drive with a PITA border crossing at the FL line, and I'm a few hours closer than she is - the potential buyer has put her in a very poor bargaining spot. After driving all that way, she is not going to want to load the horse up and go home, so I'm sure the buyer would try to take advantage of that.



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    This is about the craziest thing I've ever heard of. No, no, and no. The buyer travels to see the horse. Period. SleepyFox and ChocoMare are right. I would never haul a horse anywhere for a try out. For sure not a distance like that!

    Buyer is nuts. Beware.



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    No f*&#ing way.


    Sorry but that's really the only way I can eloquently sum up how I feel about that situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoMare View Post
    BWAHAHAHAHAHA.... oh sorry. What were you saying?

    Um, no way. If buyer wants to try the horse, buyer gets her bootie up to Kentucky.
    What she said.
    A good horseman doesn't have to tell anyone...the horse already knows.

    Might be a reason, never an excuse...



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    Why not?

    A buck a mile, both ways (should cover ordinary expenses, fuel, motel, etc.) plus extra expenses like tolls, vet. certificate, etc.

    Paid up front by wire transfer to her account.

    G.



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    The buyer is prabably pretty sure she wants the horse and just doesn't want to pay to have it transported.



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    Quote Originally Posted by findeight View Post
    BULLS**T.

    The only time this is ever done is with trainer as a disclosed agent setting up with another trainer/agent representing the buyer to assure the horse is kept in acceptable conditions and both parties are known to one another.
    The wannabe buyer PAYS for the transportation. BOTH WAYS if it comes back.
    The wannbe buyer LEASES the horse and PAYS a lease fee.
    The wannbe buyer PAYS for insurance.
    All involved parties SIGN a contract. In ADVANCE.

    This one's easy, just say NO.

    Exactly. It would be cheaper for her to fly to KY (most likely) than to pay all that. If she's smart she will line up several horses to look at while she is there. I wouldn't do it.
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    Think about it this way:
    You want to buy a home.
    The home is out of state.
    Do you ask the agent or home owner to ship the home to you?

    Sorry...but when it comes to moving either a person or a horse...it's a helluva lot easier and more sane to move the people to where the horse is rather than the other way around.
    Besides...you're the one with the sales item. The buyer goes to where something is for sale...the seller doesn't bring the sale item to the buyer unless the seller is the ice cream truck driver.
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    Default Waste of time and money.

    Quote Originally Posted by eponacowgirl View Post
    She's a poor college student and is seriously considering hauling the horse-
    So she wants to spend money on a gamble that the shopper will buy the horse? It is cheaper for the buyer to come to her than to pay hauling fees, so unless she gets everything paid for up front, I wouldn't expect to recover the costs. And because I think this particular buyer is lazy and more than like a tire kicker, I doubt you'd find them willing to reimburse for expenses. The request is, IMO, ridiculous. Don't haul the horse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoArabs View Post
    The buyer is prabably pretty sure she wants the horse and just doesn't want to pay to have it transported.
    Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!
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    Thumbs down

    I wouldn't sell a horse to a poor college kid who may or may not be able to afford to properly care for the horse. If it's my horse it's my business and I'd say no to someone of questionable financial ability. You don't have to be rich but you do have yo be able to provide basic care. I'd wonder about that if she can't afford to get in the car and drive up to see the horse.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Eq3nStar View Post
    I wouldn't sell a horse to a poor college kid who may or may not be able to afford to properly care for the horse. If it's my horse it's my business and I'd say no to someone of questionable financial ability. You don't have to be rich but you do have yo be able to provide basic care. I'd wonder about that if she can't afford to get in the car and drive up to see the horse.
    I think it's the seller who's the poor college kid, not the buyer. Such a trip would be a financial burden for her. A serious buyer will come see the horse. A REALLY serious buyer would pay the poor college kid owner UP FRONT for the purchase price and the hauling expenses.
    Last edited by ThreeFigs; Nov. 8, 2007 at 12:47 PM. Reason: typo



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    "Buyer wants us to haul horse to Florida to try him out!"

    uh.. NO. Seriously, she must be on crack!



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