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  1. I think there is room for both, in fact a need...

    I think there is room for both, in fact a need for both.
    Canada, for example has breeders that are really making an attempt to breed excellent horses. We do not have the history, population(horses...
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    Well, except Wb's were singled out and purpose...

    Well, except Wb's were singled out and purpose bred for Calvary and the Olympic sports also derived from Calvary exercises. So I do not think it is fair to say that 50 years ago they were just a farm...
  3. Voltaire: Hanoverian Influential Stallions in...

    Voltaire: Hanoverian
    Influential Stallions in pedigree: VAS Y DONC, ROYAL CHESNUT, CHERBOURG, CONQUERANT, KAPIRAT, NORMAND, PLEDGE, SEDUCTEUR, ALDERMAN I, FLING, GOLDSCHL√ĄGER I, LANDESSOHN, ACHILL,...
  4. It isn't based on the registry as CW accepts most...

    It isn't based on the registry as CW accepts most of the major European registries. The "purebred" is about the European ancestry of the horse minus the Tb influence.
    Another example is Donnerhall....
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    Pepsi and Coke dropped cola from their name....

    Pepsi and Coke dropped cola from their name. Everyone knows it is a cola and they are branding their company.
    If you go there, they refer to the horse as a Warmblut. It is just everyone knows that...
  6. In order to even be eligible for registration,...

    In order to even be eligible for registration, they have to trace back to the founding stock. Once again, it isn't the lack of Wb ancestors that create a part breed, it is the fact (as shown by the...
  7. The point is the criteria is the same, it is 3...

    The point is the criteria is the same, it is 3 generations to get into the Stud Book or Mare book. It isn't the names (which are different) it is the structure that is the same and due to the fact...
  8. Outside mares (lets pick on a Qh ) are eligible...

    Outside mares (lets pick on a Qh ) are eligible for inspection but are not placed in a book. The foal will be an AUX no matter what. So that 1/2 QH and 1/2 Wb has Aux papers. That is the highest it...
  9. Donella, you are missing the point of my...

    Donella, you are missing the point of my question. Say it was 5 or 6 years ago that you first registered a Hanoverian, it would also probably be the first time you really took interest in how the...
  10. Actually it is. You must remember that they...

    Actually it is. You must remember that they created that system 20 years ago. How long ago did you register your first Hanoverian?
    If you look back, you will see that the books were set up to mimic...
  11. And Canadian Sport Horse is an evolving breed, so...

    And Canadian Sport Horse is an evolving breed, so if you look at their page, you do not see purebred or other as they have no identified founding stock (horses that are the founding members of a...
  12. Someone might step in with a better explanation...

    Someone might step in with a better explanation but here is one for now.

    This Stallion stands at Spruce Meadows and is an approved Hanoverian Stallion (and winner of the stallion test).
    ...
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    If I took my Wb cutting, he would be referred to...

    If I took my Wb cutting, he would be referred to as an off breed.
    Not that the cows care but the breeders who go out of their way to produce a 8th gen cutting horse do. It is a sign of respect and...
  14. The canter is interesting. Not like a powerful...

    The canter is interesting. Not like a powerful jumper canter but more leg and suspension and less "jump".
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    Yes, but as a group they can be considered a...

    Yes, but as a group they can be considered a breed.
    Any breed also has regional populations with unique genetics (especially before frozen) and breed for different purposes within the breed. Think...
  16. Thanks for the explanations. I know some...

    Thanks for the explanations.
    I know some registries will do dna and paperwork and have a vet do identification on a yearling for registration.
  17. I have to ask, why does a yearling need to go to...

    I have to ask, why does a yearling need to go to an inspection?
    I understand a young horse class but usually foal are registered at the dam's side and mares are inspected at 3 years of age.
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    I was the kid that rode a $600 dollar grade...

    I was the kid that rode a $600 dollar grade horse. And there was a bit of "class" issue but now that I think about it, it was mostly on my side. I made assumptions about how people thought of my...
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    They are never a part bred....

    They are never a part bred. http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=418975
    Those Breed's are considered part of the Wb improvement breeding stock. They are the breeds that created the modern WB. Like...
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    No one on this board would/should dispute the Tb...

    No one on this board would/should dispute the Tb influence. Everyone knows that.
    And once again, not to be rude but just because a horse was used on a farm does not make it a draft horse. Most...
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    I don't see a very different story, just a...

    I don't see a very different story, just a misunderstanding of what is meant by a farm horse. Rural people had horses that had to do everything, riding and farm work. Many people that don't live on...
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    The Canadian Warmblood embraces all the major...

    The Canadian Warmblood embraces all the major registries, like the Dutch, also like the Dutch who borrow other registry horses and re labels them as Dutch. They all do that to a point so in the end...
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    Wrong. In Canada there is a piece of...

    Wrong.

    In Canada there is a piece of legislation called the Pedigree Act, it governs all animals that have papers. The act has great detail in what is accepted as a breed and how that breed most...
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    You live in a different part of NA but I can...

    You live in a different part of NA but I can honestly say that some of the best and most successful breeders in Alberta are from Holland and Germany. Most have thick accents and some still have...
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    V. Shake baby? Congrats on buying such a lovely...

    V. Shake baby? Congrats on buying such a lovely horse. :)
    You would do well to speak to her breeders, they are very knowledgeable and would be able to help you choose a stallion for her that matches...
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