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    This: "Luckily he was much better today on the...

    This: "Luckily he was much better today on the 2g of Bute. "
    in realistic language should read: Sadly, it is now taking 2 g of bute to manage his pain. Find a vet who can help you find the cause,...
  2. Yes, the stiff legged, exaggerated heel first...

    Yes, the stiff legged, exaggerated heel first landing is typical of mild laminitis. If they trot, they will flip the toes to avoid landing toe first, with the knees stiff so they travel with a 'daisy...
  3. Poll: I think 'whole food' is another of those...

    I think 'whole food' is another of those nebulous, meaningless buzz words used so that people can assume something good or better about it as they choose. Then in spite of the fact that nothing is...
  4. Poll: For those that feed seaweed: Does your product...

    For those that feed seaweed:
    Does your product engage in this kind of contamination testing?
    https://www.seaveg.com/shop/index.php?main_page=page&id=21&chapter=1

    If not, consider that the ocean...
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    Regular exercise.

    Regular exercise.
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    In plant physiology texts, sugar alcohols are...

    In plant physiology texts, sugar alcohols are mentioned as part of the cycle in carbohydrate metabolism in plants as a response to stress.

    Developments in Crop Science
    Volume 26, 2000, Pages...
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    I see more digestive issues on fields full of...

    I see more digestive issues on fields full of dandelion, plantain and thistle. These plants all DO contain inulin, the same kind used to induce laminitis. Some really gassy horses quit farting all...
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    And the iron thing. I don't buy that theory...

    And the iron thing. I don't buy that theory either. USDA specialists in minerals told me that when iron is over 500 ppm, it has to be soil contamination which is not bioavailable. If soil is so...
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    IMO, the work done on glycemic response to inulin...

    IMO, the work done on glycemic response to inulin could have been better with longer term testing. If fructose is liberated as a first step in fermentation, it would not get into the blood stream...
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    They get obese or sore feet, or both. Soak hay...

    They get obese or sore feet, or both. Soak hay in lots of water, find low WSC hay, or bermuda or Teff that has no fructan/less fructose and they get more sound within a few days and start loosing...
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    What I tell people is to get as much information...

    What I tell people is to get as much information as possible about what they are feeding, pay close attention to the response of each horse, and do what each horse tells you it needs. The theories...
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    Well it appears that the literature cannot...

    Well it appears that the literature cannot provide all the answers yet. Which is why I tell people to try different things until their horse lets them know they got it right. Paying attention to...
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    If you are collecting anecdotal evidence, then I...

    If you are collecting anecdotal evidence, then I know of about a dozen so far that have consulted with me, that did not do fine. But did when they started paying attention to WSC. I just want...
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    Give this pony and her foal away if you can't...

    Give this pony and her foal away if you can't sell her. This is the kind of pony that makes kids never want a pony again. At least the smart kids.
    Hire a pro to find the right pony, agree it...
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    How do you know that the fructose that is...

    How do you know that the fructose that is hydrolyzed by stomach acids, or released by fermentation of fructan is not involved in metabolic laminitis? Researchers do recognize a form of hepatic IR in...
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    Ah... no. I think that Dr. Pollit's work with...

    Ah... no. I think that Dr. Pollit's work with FOS provides evidence that broad leaf weeds that come up in overgrazed pasture are very important to laminitis. The fructan he used is more like that...
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    Agreed, there is no scientific studies proving...

    Agreed, there is no scientific studies proving that grass fructans causes IR. But obesity does. Fructans is high in calories, therefore it must be considered in diets or horses prone to obesity.
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    http://www.desertequinebalance.com/nutrition-basic...

    http://www.desertequinebalance.com/nutrition-basics/emergency-diet

    "The term “NSC” or “non-structural carbohydrates” has mainly been replaced by “ESC+starch” – Ethanol (alcohol) soluble...
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    Here's another adding ESC + starch and calling it...

    Here's another adding ESC + starch and calling it NSC.
    http://www.bevet.com/files/nonstructuralcarbsnsc_2.pdf

    Triple Crown doesn't seem to think WSC is important to laminitic horses, then they...
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    http://holistichorse.com/health-care/dietary-strat...

    http://holistichorse.com/health-care/dietary-strategy-for-your-ir-horse/

    Here's an example of bad advice that disregards WSC. It also advises to soak high starch hays, which will not work...
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    It depends on who you ask. Some internet gurus...

    It depends on who you ask. Some internet gurus have decided that fructan does not matter to endocrine related laminitis, so they tell people to only pay attention to ESC and starch. They even...
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    Ethanol Soluble carbs = simple sugars Water...

    Ethanol Soluble carbs = simple sugars
    Water Soluble carbs= ESC + fructans more or less.

    video here: http://safergrass.org/videos/CHO%20confusion/
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    Get them tested, post results and we can discuss...

    Get them tested, post results and we can discuss them. I would guess they would tend to be high in WSC.
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    for those who ignore WSC......

    and only think that ESC matters to obese/IR horses.

    Can you please tell me why you think that fructan does not provide calories?

    Can you provide proof that fructan and/or fructose has no role...
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    Pergolide does indeed stop laminitis at the...

    Pergolide does indeed stop laminitis at the correct dose, although hard to fix without also correcting diet to remove sugars and starch.
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