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    The donation. It's not a sale. The costs and...

    The donation. It's not a sale. The costs and money paid to organizations like PP for this tissue is reimbursement for the costs of collection and proper care/shipping of the tissue. Very likely...
  2. Well... there are "farmers" who are captive...

    Well... there are "farmers" who are captive breeding large numbers of lions for "hunters"

    It seems a number of hunters who have participated in these "hunts" seem to think that this is the same...
  3. We don't. Unless there are no pets, no kids, and...

    We don't. Unless there are no pets, no kids, and we never touch anything.

    :p
  4. Honestly, if someone wanted to pay a professional...

    Honestly, if someone wanted to pay a professional to come deep clean my house I would love it.

    I would probably feel a little offended, or defensive maybe, but honestly, I can't keep up with it...
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    See minnie, I'm very much pro choice but don't...

    See minnie, I'm very much pro choice but don't consider it just tissue either. It is a developing baby, and would become one. It is alive. At the same time, I think we all have to die and once...
  6. Perhaps that act was a blessing for the giraffe,...

    Perhaps that act was a blessing for the giraffe, and it sounds like the locals ate it, so it was put to use. But I'd call that euthanizing, not hunting.

    I find her interesting, I wanted the...
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    I know that, my original question was directed at...

    I know that, my original question was directed at someone expressing a pro-choice stance.

    I may have incorrectly assumed your comment was in response to my post.
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    Look, I understand that pro-life people would be...

    Look, I understand that pro-life people would be revolted, but if you are pro-choice, I'm not understanding why this concept is so shocking and upsetting.

    Look how many people have been saved by...
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    I'm genuinely curious as to why you are disgusted...

    I'm genuinely curious as to why you are disgusted by this. Did you just not know that fetal tissues are used in lots of different medical and scientific research? Would you rather it just be thrown...
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    It's not just about birth control though. It's...

    It's not just about birth control though. It's about general health care, and far more importantly, EDUCATION.

    With so many places teaching very poor versions of sex ed, or "abstinence only"...
  11. Exactly. I'm not a fan of trophy hunting, but do...

    Exactly. I'm not a fan of trophy hunting, but do recognize that in some places, it serves a purpose for the local economy and conservation as a whole, as distasteful as that may be.

    The dentist...
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    When that "attitude" involves direct harm to...

    When that "attitude" involves direct harm to others, that's something else.

    I don't find a detached, clinical viewpoint towards the human body (especially if it's dead already) to be the same...
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    I have news for a lot of people, if they could...

    I have news for a lot of people, if they could hear how their own doctors, and other people in the medical fields speak and talk about life, death, organs, and patients... they'd probably be a lot...
  14. What tends to happen is that initially in any of...

    What tends to happen is that initially in any of these ventures, you'll do OK. A lot of people will order and book parties.

    But then people have what they need, and have discovered the products...
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    For Moonwitch, or anyone who thinks PP is just an...

    For Moonwitch, or anyone who thinks PP is just an abortion provider, here's the complete list of services provided by Planned Parenthood (though these can vary by location):

    General Health...
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    See, this tells me you don't know much about...

    See, this tells me you don't know much about Planned Parenthood. Because they definitely counsel and help women through making decisions about adoption. They help women who want to get pregnant too...
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    Would you feel the same way about a bunch of...

    Would you feel the same way about a bunch of "regular" doctors talking about how to maximize organ donations? Or talking about how to maximize body donation for research?
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    This is not about "commercial" use of fetal body...

    This is not about "commercial" use of fetal body parts/organs. This is about standard practices in which those things are made available for medical research, and the standard reimbursement for...
  19. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount....

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

    You know, even when people make good or thoughtful points, it becomes difficult to take those points seriously when they are tied to tinfoil...
  20. Help me out, I've been on vacation, what page is...

    Help me out, I've been on vacation, what page is this?
  21. Yep. I just would hope if "what makes you happy"...

    Yep. I just would hope if "what makes you happy" is to let it grow, you're not subject to mockery, pointing, and nasty comments.

    I started doing certain hair removal for my own comfort, when I...
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    Honestly it sounds to me like you've done a lot...

    Honestly it sounds to me like you've done a lot of prep work- have you tried ponying with a rider?

    I think ground driving is a great idea, but from what I've gleaned reading your posts, he's at...
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    I'm as pro choice as anyone but in regards to the...

    I'm as pro choice as anyone but in regards to the pain argument... I think we need to be careful with this. For quite a long time, and until disturbingly recently, it was thought that babies...
  24. Again with the "toxins" thing....

    Again with the "toxins" thing....
  25. Funny taste in your mouth could be ketosis. I...

    Funny taste in your mouth could be ketosis. I would think it would take more than a day to get there, but who knows. Ketosis can be good, if you are consuming enough protein and fat...
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