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    BTW, for those who despise the Judeo-Christian...

    BTW, for those who despise the Judeo-Christian tradition, I would like to point out that Christianity, per Paul, was the first and possibly the only large scale religion that imposed the same rules...
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    If consent is not formed by training in humans,...

    If consent is not formed by training in humans, what is it formed by?

    Actually, I'm trying to engage in Socratic discussion.
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    And just exactly what are the ramifications of...

    And just exactly what are the ramifications of the sex act between a human and animal? You sound as if you thought there might be long term consequences other than STDs. If there are long term...
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    Sure animals can consent. They have teeth and...

    Sure animals can consent. They have teeth and claws and hooves. They know how to use them. They can be persuaded to not use them. How do y'all factor in persuasion in your "informed consent".
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    "And if both parties agree, then it is none of...

    "And if both parties agree, then it is none of your business". So that's the single moral value in this society? Collateral matters like health, responsibility, the ultimate effect on the...
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    So is describing culture in the West as having...

    So is describing culture in the West as having been based on Judeo-Christian principles/values a value loaded statement or simply an expression of fact?

    I daresay that even if 3000 years may be...
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    If we are talking about executions, sodomy was...

    If we are talking about executions, sodomy was still punished by execution in several US states after the Revolution. Thomas Jefferson wanted to change the punishment to castration, but his...
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    Darkmoonlady, you must have information about...

    Darkmoonlady, you must have information about rising heterosexual AIDs that the CDC didn't publish in 2013.

    CDC HIV in the US--At a Glance, from their statistics section:...
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    Go to Start/run and type in msconfig in the...

    Go to Start/run and type in msconfig in the little box that comes up. In XP, to use it to disable things, you have to change to Selective Startup in the window that comes up, then figure out what...
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    Just to put the obesity/HIV comparison in...

    Just to put the obesity/HIV comparison in perspective from Simkie's articles. 1.1 million people live with HIV. 78.6 million American's are obese. 34.9% of Americans are obese. .0034% are HIV...
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    Suicide used to be a crime in the majority of the...

    Suicide used to be a crime in the majority of the United States as recently as 1980. Another huge change that happened in my lifetime.

    So promiscuity is no longer wrong either. How very...
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    I have no thesis. I'm not trying to prove...

    I have no thesis. I'm not trying to prove anything. I just want to know where the new lines will be drawn and why. Why is suicide criminal? It's private behavior by a consenting adult (usually). ...
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    I don't understand where you are getting your...

    I don't understand where you are getting your view of my views. You tend to make very sweeping statements that distort what I've posted. I really don't care who screws who. Ahd quite frankly, I...
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    The reason religion is entitled to strict...

    The reason religion is entitled to strict scrutiny is because of the interplay of the First Amendment and the Fourteenth Amendment. You know that.

    I find it interesting that you, Coanteen,...
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    Sorry to say that where I live, interracial...

    Sorry to say that where I live, interracial relationships are not widely accepted by either blacks or whites. They may be legal, but they are not accepted widely. And you are imagining things if you...
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    Why do I think it would be good to know? Because...

    Why do I think it would be good to know? Because most of the argument for gay issues being legally treated the same as racial ones and entitled to strict scrutiny in federal courts (immutable...
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    Where did I say being gay was bad? What I've...

    Where did I say being gay was bad? What I've been saying is that behavior that was once condemned has, in a very short period of time become acceptable, leaving a rather large number of people,...
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    I propose a study. 1000 babies are brain scanned...

    I propose a study. 1000 babies are brain scanned at birth, and every year afterwards until the age of thirteen. The scans are studied for differences in the areas that have already been shown in in...
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    There are cultures where bestiality is acceptable...

    There are cultures where bestiality is acceptable in some situations. I seem to recall reading a study about shepherds and goat herds sent off to summer pasture where it was not unusual and was...
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    Using willing consent as a reason not to use...

    Using willing consent as a reason not to use animals in sex is equally ridiculous.
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    No, unprotected sex is dangerous. Unprotected...

    No, unprotected sex is dangerous. Unprotected sex with someone who is not in a monogamous relationship with you is even more dangerous. You can draw your own conclusions from the numbers.
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    Two horses died in the past two weeks in...

    Two horses died in the past two weeks in competition. One here at Devon in a jumping class. The other died in a 3* event in New Zealand. People use horses in ways that cause them to die. Millions...
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    Statistic from CDC. 2.3 % of the American...

    Statistic from CDC. 2.3 % of the American population identify as gay. 50% of new AIDs cases come from that small percentage. The other 97.7% account for the other 50%.
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    Yup, I am that dumb. I've seen the harm that...

    Yup, I am that dumb. I've seen the harm that promiscuity can cause. I've had gay friends who died of AIDS because they gave willing consent to bathhouse sex.

    I've known women who so desperately...
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    Seems to me that if we limit rider reverse...

    Seems to me that if we limit rider reverse qualification to horse falls, we might be less sensitive in individual cases. Horse usually do not fall by themselves. They fall because of rider error,...
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