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    Because the stuff they use provides excellent...

    Because the stuff they use provides excellent protection for your horse's back if the tree fits your horse.
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    Interesting comments about the tbs. I have one...

    Interesting comments about the tbs. I have one who has moderate pssm type 2 diagnosed by a muscle biopsy at the U of Minn. I changed his feed to Triple Crown senior (high fat, low simple carb) and...
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    Interesting. I had very little experience with...

    Interesting. I had very little experience with horses that ran shorter distances. Almost all my experience was with turf horses and steeplechase horses. I wonder if that's why we have such...
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    Well, I only knew a small group of trainers and...

    Well, I only knew a small group of trainers and all of those also trained steeplechase horses.

    I also worked the sales at Saratoga and daisy cutter action was not among the things buyers looked...
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    The idea that high action slows the thoroughbred...

    The idea that high action slows the thoroughbred down is a new concept to me and I don't think one generally accepted by many thoroughbred race trainers. I remember riding a filly with higher action...
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    Bayhawk, you appear to be stalking Vineyridge. ...

    Bayhawk, you appear to be stalking Vineyridge. Just a heads up, your aggression and behavior is strange.
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    I'm just curious though, wouldn't you think the...

    I'm just curious though, wouldn't you think the GP horse would adjust his jumping style to the demands of the course? The question was prompted by my experience hunting an x hurdle horse who loved...
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    No, you're wrong, most do not have a horizontal...

    No, you're wrong, most do not have a horizontal neck set. You must be repeating rumors. You simply do not know what you're talking about when it comes to thoroughbreds. I do not say that in...
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    TB Stallions on the east coast, just one farm...

    TB Stallions on the east coast, just one farm
    http://www.diamondbfarmpa.com/last_laugh.html

    TB Stallions in Canada, just one farm. Look carefully at Musketier's breeding.

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    Where do you see thoroughbreds like this? Nobody...

    Where do you see thoroughbreds like this? Nobody breeds thoroughbreds like this on purpose.
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    Where are they looking and only seeing high...

    Where are they looking and only seeing high croups and low neck sets?

    Do you think steeplechase horses have high croups and low necks? Of course they don't. You're in a state with many timber...
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    Not going to bite off your head, just going to...

    Not going to bite off your head, just going to say that most steeplechase tbs and eventers were originally bred for racing and raced. They came out of the same foal crop as those bred for speed and...
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    I think this explains an a lot about their...

    I think this explains an a lot about their attitude toward using thoroughbreds in their breeding program.
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    I've rehabbed many tbs coming off steroids and I...

    I've rehabbed many tbs coming off steroids and I agree with lpcutter's evaluation and can add that I've seen many crash and lose energy. I suspect that's what happened to Big Brown.

    I also think...
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    And just for fun, here's steeplechase jockey...

    And just for fun, here's steeplechase jockey Willie McCarthy jumping Dutch Holstein mare Bella
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    Thank you for the direction and tone this...

    Thank you for the direction and tone this discussion is taking.

    I'm wondering two things which may or may not be relevant to your thinking but is pertinent to something I've been thinking about...
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    Hmmmm, it looks like A Fine Romance must be the...

    Hmmmm, it looks like A Fine Romance must be the exception to the rule when it comes to that tragic jump killing gene that most thoroughbreds have :D
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    YAY and what incredible photos of her jumping!

    YAY and what incredible photos of her jumping!
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    Not enough about genetics is known to make...

    Not enough about genetics is known to make statements like that. Like Beowulf said, you can only speculate and unfortunately your speculations are made about something where there are so many...
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    How do you know warmbloods get the jump from the...

    How do you know warmbloods get the jump from the mother?? It's like saying thoroughbreds get their speed from their fathers. That information is not available to any of us, period.

    Myths, all...
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    Your logic is flawed. There are simply too many...

    Your logic is flawed. There are simply too many variables for you to make such a sweeping statement. Many people have pointed them out for you, but you have only one measure of a thoroughbred's...
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    Sorry, they're all over the east coast. My eyes...

    Sorry, they're all over the east coast. My eyes have seen them but they don't play in your world.
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    You're playing with genetics, you can't make such...

    You're playing with genetics, you can't make such definitive statements in the genetics game especially when evidence against your theory is presented. How big is this pool of jump killing...
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    That's your point of the thread. The actual...

    That's your point of the thread.

    The actual quote and question was whether or not breeding to a thoroughbred will kill the jump in a warmblood. Many of us are simply trying to dispel that myth....
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    Coming from a different world and knowing how...

    Coming from a different world and knowing how many thoroughbreds can gallop down to a 5' or 1.5 meter fence and knowing how trainable these horses are I find the comment "thoroughbreds kill the jump"...
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