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    SnicklefritzG...

    SnicklefritzG -- me too, please! I'm struggling with the same problem at the moment. Thanks!
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    Then there is my husband, who scanned some of my...

    Then there is my husband, who scanned some of my old photos (with old boyfriend and complete with "period hair" and fashion), posted them, and tagged me in them. I could have killed him. Glad he...
  3. I've heard from people I trust that they are...

    I've heard from people I trust that they are largely a bunch of hooey.

    Fun party game, though.
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    I don't know, the OP doesn't know, none of us...

    I don't know, the OP doesn't know, none of us really "know" this individual's ulterior motives, if indeed she has any. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm frequently misinterpreted in my dealings with...
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    Just to be Devil's Advocate... I was just in...

    Just to be Devil's Advocate...

    I was just in the UK and had to get my horse fix, so i went to an eventing barn to go hack out in the countryside. While I was waiting for my horse, I watched a...
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    Re: Legal consequences to neglect. This gums...

    Re: Legal consequences to neglect.

    This gums up the works a bit. We don't have nearly enough knowledgeable humane officers who can effectively enforce abuse/neglect cases. When Animal Planet...
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    I wish I knew for sure! I have seen some big...

    I wish I knew for sure! I have seen some big spikes in adoptions when shelters initially "change over," and then a leveling off that seems to rest at a lower adoption rate than when the shelter was...
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    I had been thinking about that, because I've...

    I had been thinking about that, because I've witnessed a similar phenomenon with adoption numbers at animal shelters when they go "no kill." Although some of the missing "pity" adoptions may be...
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    What about composting? I don't know all the...

    What about composting?

    I don't know all the logistics, but the local university Ag School does have a large animal composting project. I wonder if the auction houses could have kind of a...
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    MistyBlue, Remember that a fair number of...

    MistyBlue,

    Remember that a fair number of Amish horses (at least in our neck of the woods, which is kinda Amish-central) are Standardbreds from off-the-track, hence also probably fairly acquainted...
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    Sure -- it's a toughie! It is the pursuit of...

    Sure -- it's a toughie!

    It is the pursuit of an "ideal" -- (creating the perfectly conformed and mentally balanced horse) vs. the recognition that people initially get into this (theoretically!)...
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    I will agree with you (OGP) that I am concerned...

    I will agree with you (OGP) that I am concerned about who will buy certain slaughter-bound horses.

    I don't agree with you (there, I said it!!) about the hard-nosed culling of minimally incorrect...
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    I may be a bit behind in this conversation (so...

    I may be a bit behind in this conversation (so please excuse me -- it is only two pages or so) -- but if we are creating definitions and determining ceilings and floors and such -- I've gotta throw...
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    Bathing, mane pulling, etc are part of "full...

    Bathing, mane pulling, etc are part of "full care" in some barns.
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    There was also some fallout with the slaughter of...

    There was also some fallout with the slaughter of Exceller and Ferdinand.
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    If racing's survival is depending on...

    If racing's survival is depending on slaughterhouses they may have problems anyway if the EU continues to push for cleaner horsemeat, six month quarantines in feedlots for buted horses, and the like.
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    And here is where some of the discussion --...

    And here is where some of the discussion -- productive as it may be -- goes off the rails for me.

    I can appreciate your arguments, OGP -- but I think that we as a society are just never going to...
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    I think the answer to that question is supposed...

    I think the answer to that question is supposed to be that we should have been building a better mousetrap...er...horse...all along by systematically culling the inferior individuals. Perfectly...
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    Well aware of that, Bluey. I have bred, but am...

    Well aware of that, Bluey. I have bred, but am not a commercial breeder. Perhaps I was interpreting incorrectly, but it was beginning to sound to me as if some were suggesting that that wasn't...
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    Oh -- and OGP --despite the fact that burying...

    Oh -- and OGP --despite the fact that burying euthanized carcasses is "illegal" in our area, it is hardly enforced, and (so I hear) frequently done. Groundwater be damned.
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    What makes a "cull" though? If "cull" were...

    What makes a "cull" though? If "cull" were unsound mentally or physically, I'd consider it. If it just wasn't going to live up to expectations of breeding program, then no. I'd try to provide...
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    Re: What to do with dead Fido I agree about...

    Re: What to do with dead Fido

    I agree about the "shooting the dog" laws (and I know why it happened) but there are (expensive) companion animal cremation services. Much harder to do with...
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    Interesting discussions! I believe, however,...

    Interesting discussions! I believe, however, that there is another issue involved with the breeding of companion animals that makes a direct comparison with breeding pure food animals problematic --...
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    Gonna quibble with you a bit, OGP, on the shelter...

    Gonna quibble with you a bit, OGP, on the shelter statistics for companion animals. I agree, it is tough to find "good data" on that one -- most of it is based on regional estimates with certain...
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    LauraKY -- It is obviously all about the...

    LauraKY -- It is obviously all about the individuals in question, and I don't have any good "science" to back it up. I've just been around many many dogs and "dog people," and the worst horror...
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