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  1. I just have to say.....wow.

    I just have to say.....wow.
  2. Well, I had quite a hard time, but succesfully...

    Well, I had quite a hard time, but succesfully identified the:
    QH
    Dutch Harness
    Gelderlander
    Danish WB (though that was a fluke)
    Irish Sport Horse
    Holsteiner

    Which is interesting to me,...
  3. I've met (and ridden) quite a few WBs, and...

    I've met (and ridden) quite a few WBs, and unfortunately, I think they are hard to tell here, there is so much intermixing...

    I met a Hanno whose head, legs and croup were so Arab-typey that I...
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    That doesn't seem to be as comprehensive as I'd...

    That doesn't seem to be as comprehensive as I'd like (but thanks for letting me know about it - I missed it when I read through this lovely long thread).

    Folks that own padded horses - can you...
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    I do worry about the hyperflexion of the joints...

    I do worry about the hyperflexion of the joints associated with padded horses (for what it's worth, I also worry about it as bred into many WB breeds for "dressage movement" typified by the extreme...
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    So, please don't shoot me, but I've been trying...

    So, please don't shoot me, but I've been trying to figure out where the pads came in, and it looks like the late 50s early 60s?

    I was looking through that Walker's West site, and it was very...
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    Hey - I'm not a hugger either!!!! :) And I'm...

    Hey - I'm not a hugger either!!!! :) And I'm pretty sure I'm not a cold heartless bitch.
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    I can't ignore people...probably because I love a...

    I can't ignore people...probably because I love a good debate, and even when people get a little...silly or snarky...I realize that they are either:

    a. having a bad day
    b. genuinely passionate...
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    Uhhhh, me too. Yikes.

    Uhhhh, me too. Yikes.
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    Freedom is correct. I look at AWBs on...

    Freedom is correct.

    I look at AWBs on equine.com all the time because I love draft crosses and I realize that's how some are advertised. Most are advertised as registerable with, but very few are...
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    S'ok Rugbug, that happened to me earlier (it must...

    S'ok Rugbug, that happened to me earlier (it must be this thread! ;-) )

    I think part of the trouble with this might be, though there were people doing that, there were also people using them (and...
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    Portia, that is usually the contention - and in...

    Portia, that is usually the contention - and in addition, what do you suppose those heavy horses were used for? They weren't used for saddle...and they weren't used for carriage...they were used...
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    Right - the American percheron, which is more...

    Right - the American percheron, which is more coach-y, is being used to create quality cross-breds. The french percheron WAS a lighter horse, but was changed through the breeding into a heavier horse...
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    Rugbug, I agree that those were some lighter...

    Rugbug, I agree that those were some lighter examples in the pedigree, but the contention has always been that there are no heavy horses in the pedigree. Which was untrue. Those animals are heavy. In...
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    Have you seen the oldenburgs in my KWPNs line?...

    Have you seen the oldenburgs in my KWPNs line? (Grandson of nimmerdor) - they were in the links I provided earlier.

    These guys were heavier than most modern draft horses. In fact, most modern...
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    Oh yes, Janet - I suppose I did not word that...

    Oh yes, Janet - I suppose I did not word that correctly. And I think I alluded to that with the debate about the arabian, but I was not clear.

    I am simply saying that the state of affairs in the...
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    Portia, the issue with this is that if you read...

    Portia, the issue with this is that if you read books from the 19th century (the period that I am discussing where these first refinements of the draft horse into coach animals occurred) you will...
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    JSwan, you are SUCH an enabler. My husband does...

    JSwan, you are SUCH an enabler. My husband does not thank you (but I do) :D
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    I might fall over dead were that to be the case....

    I might fall over dead were that to be the case. Someone would have to come revive me.
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    Portia, I'm sorry, this is incorrect. Those early...

    Portia, I'm sorry, this is incorrect. Those early warmbloods in that line, direct crosses from Oldenburgs etc. were considered warmbloods and those Oldenburgs WERE draft horses. They became coachers,...
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    Thanks Saddletramp - I don't know where my head...

    Thanks Saddletramp - I don't know where my head is today :)
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    Saddletramp, was that question directed at me?...

    Saddletramp, was that question directed at me? I'm having a hard time understanding it...The Oldenburg WAS a draft horse even in 1900. DRAFT HORSE.

    Caffeine....must get caffeine....
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    To boot, check out an Arab from the 1900s...they...

    To boot, check out an Arab from the 1900s...they sure looked different....
    http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/haleb
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    I know the line the breeders are selling you...

    I know the line the breeders are selling you guys, but would you look at the agricultural history in a PRACTICAL sense?

    From the above reference:

    "The Hanoverian horses are larger than the...
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    Here is a lovely excerpt from the Cyclopedia of...

    Here is a lovely excerpt from the Cyclopedia of American Agriculture published in 1908. It has some very interesting references and explanations of the draft and warmblood breeds from Europe as they...
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