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Equinelaw, good to know. Things change, at least in some places. I don't understand the reason for the change in procedure though...different jurisdictional amount in controversy? Anyway...this is...

Lovely, one that Tim and Cheryl bred! I adore Windfall (loved seeing him just hanging out, chilling between phases), and have had 3 Windfoals (in fact, I coined the term though Tim said he was going...

Well, if that is true in some states, it is a surprise to me. It isn't the case in Michigan (where I am a member of the bar). The way it works, in Michigan at least (and all the other jurisdictions...

Got it. Thanks ;)

RugBug, thanks for the feedback. I wasn't kidding...clueless....

Though on distances, I have to say, the chute for the bay mare has the jump configuration and distances used in the American...

Lovely mare! What is her breeding?

I hope your friend's case works out.

The outcome of any court case turns on 1) the judge's understanding of the law and 2) the judge's understanding of the subject matter (and how the law should...

As for the original question, I think well of Trakehners ;) I appreciate seeing a thread discussing breed attributes and stigma that is built on contributions of fact rather than hearsay.

I enjoy...

Peppermints are the standard treat around here.

Pokey likes Tic-Tacs. I think he considers them minty oats.

I have the Woody Pet fork (on my second one, actually). It is a must, I think, because one of the possible disadvantages of pelletted bedding is that it is so dry, it sucks all the moisture out of...

We use pellets and love them.

In our neck of the woods (Northern Michigan), the most economical are Equine Fresh from TSC. TSC carries Woody Pet also, but prices the two products at the same...

Nothing to say about apples and oranges. But the truck to pull the 4 horse, with comparable features as the half-ton, probably costs a lot more than the half-ton. As many have pointed out, hunters...

Conformation cannot be judged without consideration of the horse's condition.

Bone structure can, yes, to a degree. Conformation is more than bone structure. But even some points of bone...

You are right, it isn't a perfect analogy because there aren't any true parallels to the heart of the debate.

OK, suppose it is an over fences class, and the horse and rider continue to do their...

And I wasn't even trying to be subtle.

Is shoulder angle "muscling"? Is hock strength and correctness "muscling"? Would you like more examples of what I would call "underlying structure and...

YES, but hunters has not historically been one of those disciplines.



MAYBE, but in the real world of these things, presentation matters. I am not talking about just a shiny bridle or blacking...

Given that work--good work, bad work, discipline-specific work, or no work--can alter conformation, I don't see how this would ever really be possible.

You can only evaluate what you can see....

They are looking for a type, or one of several types.

By analogy, suppose someone wants to show their 4th level dressage horse in a hunter class. But they ride the horse in collection as if they...

I see. Thank you.

To be cynical, or maybe realistic, is it possible that they seller suggested him as a hunter prospect to open his options to that lucrative market segment? Not that he wouldn't make a good one--you...

Well, gee, I didn't mean to have hit your "nasty button." Sorry I am so obtuse.




No. I don't make such a universal statement.

Wow, Beezer.

Knock me on my head, I really did not know there were people so passionate about conducting hunter breeding via the warmblood selection/approval/stud book/muckity muck process as...

Well, it all started in the primeval forest with Eohippus munching on leaves. But no one is doing that kind of preservation breeding for type ;)

Even the "hunter experts" here have made comments...

I guess this is mostly in reply to DMK's last post, but I am not quoting because I wouldn't even know what part to chop out. I think I may be missing the point altogether.

I can't say whether...

I disagree that they are "throwaways." Maybe the meaning of THAT term is the basis for another semantic debate. They just don't conform with the intended purpose. Even if your purpose was solely to...