By the way, Summit Springs, you are incredible and responsible...THANK YOU! Please keep us posted for the test results?
HITS is offering flu booster to all horses on show grounds tomorrow free of charge because flu is going around too. They are pretty verbal about wanting to get the "State of their back", but seriously, as long as my horse has to be there, I'm glad they are too. It's horrible.
EHV-1 is NOT the flu. Influenza is the flu. EHV is another virus altogether, any of which can cause 'flu-like symptims'. Just to clarify.
They have EHV and Influenza going around? Yikes.
Rhinopneumonitis. The vaccines are generally 2-way flu/rhino.
OK, so there is no flu then? They are just trying to head off the EHV outbreak.
I have no direct knowledge of what exact vaccine HITS is proposing except that it is modified live so I would guess it's Pfizer's Rhinomune. I don't think there is a combined MLV for flu/rhino.
I wish there was a vet or epidemiologist on this thread to clarify things.
From what I've read, there were 1800 horses that either shipped in or stabled at the Ocala show grounds after exposure and before quaranitne. Now there are reportedly 1300. That leaves 500 exposed horses somewhere.
My question for a vet would be how much greater of a risk is this for the general horse population that goes to the same kind of events? Say the upcoming Atlanta horseshow where I know some will have been at Ocala.
I've read that most horses have been exposed to EHV by the time they are two, yet only a small percentage become symptomatic. Is this a case of another shot at exposure with little likelihood of becoming ill? Or is there a difference between an outbreak of six sick horses and the routine EHV exposure horses receive?
I meant 1800, not 1500. Sorry.
Now I'm confused. Why has a long quarantine been necessary in other cases if blood testing is all it takes to confirm the horse is clear. I thought EHV wouldn't necessarily show up on a blood test right away, hence the need for the lengthy quarantine followed by a blood test.
DOME you seem very resonsible!! good for you! and thanks for sharing your experience. i think this whole thing is very upsetting and i think everyone needs to do their share to prevent this virus from spreading further.
their seems to be alot of finger pointing and judgements going around. if you were stuck on the showgrounds for 3 weeks, wouldnt you rather continue showing while implementing strict preventative measures. its easy for people back at home to say, oh thats horrible that they are showing. they are not the ones stuck in the tents in Ocala.
I dont understand why everyone is so hostile towards HITS? a horse brought a virus in. and even the State of Florida didnt put the showgrounds under quarantine. it seems like there are alot of misconceptions about what everyone should do if the virus appears. maybe a plan can be formed so that all show managers know what to do if the virus hits in the future.
and for those who say its just a horseshow, you can skip a few here and there, what about the people who earn a living off of horseshows. can they all just take a months vacation without pay.
as an expample, what if one office developed a virus so all offices closed down without pay for a month. that is a great financial hardship for those workers. its not an easy thing to make a decision on. should all offices be closed or should they allow uninfected offices to continue doing business while trying to prevent the spread of the disease. people still go to work even though the flu is around. and flu can be deadly. but people still go to work with the chance of being exposed to other people with flu.
i really hope that this virus gets under control and everyone can continue to enjoy taking their horses out and about. i really feel for the people in ocala at the horsesshows (from grooms, braiders, to trainers) and i do feel for the horseshow managers. its a nightmare, and their livelehood depends on it.
(Tests for various things usually have some rate of false positive / false negative results - no idea what those statistics are for EHV-1)
I also thought there was an EHV vaccine (for NON neuro strain).
My understanding is that a negative test means a horse is not INFECTED but can still have been exposed and unless the horse is disinfected (impossible) can carry the infection around and spread it for the entire incubation period which is 21 days. I'm also not sure that a horse wouldn't test negative if it had JUST been infected before the blood was drawn but levels hadn't built up in response to the infection yet. I wish there was some clarity on this, maybe from a vet hospital.
This might help http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/ceh/ehv1_diagnostic.cfm
DOME, I am confused. I thought the incubation could be as long as 21 days. Your premise seems to be that instead of isolating for 21 days,one can do daily nasal swabs and if all horses in the barn are negative at 5 days, the horses are clear and not incubating EHV. If your veterinarian has evidence that this is true, everyone should be following your protocol. Does your vet have any studies that indicate this approach works?