Get down on a cow is cutting. Not roping. :)
This is a dressage thread. "Sorting" cattle can be done easily using the extended jog-trot :lol:.
He was practicing moving a cow around (rolling it back on the wall). Ropers do all kinds of cow work and dont JUST chase that one cow running across the arena and put up the spurs and go home. Sorry he didnt put on his "sorting" gear.
You cant say anything on coth without it turning into "I know more about cows than you because you ride dressage" thread.
Thanks for the clarification, MistyBlue!
I never "got down on a cow" competitively. What experience I have was cattle work on the ranch: gathering, "mothering up", sorting calves from cows and heifers from steers, that sort of thing. Did my share of vaccinating, ear-notching, branding, de-horning and dipping. In the fall, we'd drive the herd to the winter pasture down highway 194 -- with a police escort for and aft of the bunch!
I never roped, never wanted to. I left that to Cousin Henry and Ray, our hired guy. They were good. Henry only had one good arm. His left shoulder had been injured in a fall and never cared for right. He'd hold his reins in his bad hand and rope with his good right arm. One of the coolest things I ever witnessed was him pelting after a loose calf, swinging that rope and making the prettiest catch ever. In the open. He was about 77 years old then, and just showing signs of the Parkinson's disease that would kill him a few years later.
He had the hat AND the cattle!
Oh, and no tie-downs on our working horses. That's for those arena ropers.
To make a generalization: a lot of "gamers" around here think they are cowgirls (the stickers on their trucks say so) b/c they wear spurs & can yank their poor horse around a barrel. I am fairly sure no cows have been involved, at any time. Most of them haven't even cleaned their own stall.
(yes, not every barrel racer is a yahoo, etc etc)
I ride dressage. I have never sorted cows on horseback. I would love to, though. I want my horse to have a wider world view.
I was, however, Little International Champion Livestock Showman (1994). I fit a mean Angus.
I guess in Dressage the expression would be:
" All top-hat and no canter " :)
All this talk of "seeing more horn" and "getting down on a cow" has me all frustarized (says the southern belle fanning herself).
Are the golfers who are all bag and no club? Or swimmers who are all flippers and no pool? What is it with horse people? My husband who has been watching us for over 30 years is convinced they are all crazy. I tend to agree. Except me of course......
I have a hat and we have cattle. However, it's a small operation and when I work cattle, it's on foot. Based on what I've seen, a lot of people would benefit from getting off their horses and learning how to move cattle that way. You make a lot fewer mistakes when YOU'RE the one who has to run, not the horse. :lol:
If Im in my tall boots I MUST have no clue what all these cow ponies do and whats that again? A latigo? LOL
Clearly a bit sulky about it by now (four years) lol.
THis was an arena roper NO DOUBT. But he was wanting to work on rolling back a cow on the fence and I said um yeah with your horse head in your face it might be difficult. I just walked up and did some flexions from the ground and told him how to be softer with his hand a bit and voila better roll back. But yes I did mention to him using a snaffle when doing that work vs just roping would be better. :) I even said his "position" coulsd use some work :lol: Maybe next Ill offer lunge lessons :winkgrin:
Nomi, showing someone how to be softer is great, but curb bits are not about lateral flexion. At all. They are for longitudinal flexion, aka collection. Even in western work.
If you show the guy any more lateral stuff, get him in a snaffle before you do. Curb bits are not meant for working off the sides of the mouth.
But then you know that, right? :yes:
But I have to say curb bite are overused they days for horses and riders that arent meant for them.
I do gymkhana on my English hunter/jumper/dressage pony and I totally recommend it. We haven't gotten in to anything else yet, but I originally stared doing gymkhana to have him go to shows and know that's it was *just for fun*, except my horse is a serious athlete brain and treats it seriously. Oh well. I don't let him go balls out, we work on bending, straightness and overall our communication at a trot and canter. My friend who IS a barrel racer took him in one class, promptly (accidentally) kicked my uber-sensitive ottb and blew the freaking hats off everyone who competed that day. He would have gotten a better score if he hadn't gone YAHOO and launched himself into the air, bucking twice. LOL. Because I always work quietly and slowly with him, the arena got quiet after his run.
It wasnt really a lesson so I was just trying to save the horse in about 10 minutes of discussion :)
Did he ask you for help?