I appreciate all of the advice and insight. It is probably because I have trained most of my horses throughout my life, beginning with ponies as a kid, that I have a hard time trusting the advice of others. I sent a horse to the cowboy at prior trainer's advice and got a big bill and a nice case of peritonitis. Then I wound up putting on the changes myself. I trust my present trainer implicitly, but I resist when people try to tell me that a horse is somehow flawed when I think that I can just push through it. I know that I am not always right, but I have found that I am not always wrong either. I am not going to sneak off and ruin the horse as soon as I have a chance, but I am not going to give up using my judgment. Not my first time at the "rodeo", so to speak. But I do see where Pennywell is coming from . I do sound like a real jerk when I read my earlier post through her / his eyes and I appreciate being called on it.