Amastrike PMed me and said that Snowflake, not she, was [K-N]. And that she, amastrike, was the other party in the thread about the loaned/given horse who was at risk.
I know maybe 10 or so cothers IRL. Some are great, and some are, well......nevermind. But it's easy to check vet credentials in each state. You all should have a state vet board where you can find out if your vet is licensed. And if he has been suspended or disciplined. Ditto with lawyers. I always had my college degree and my law degree hung on the wall of my office, along with my admittance to the various bars. And carried my bar card and my ID.
I also posted my won-loss record on the wall each year, so my victims could see how I'd done in court.
It's my understanding that OP and Grataan have been to the same horse shows recently. And that OP tried to get Grataan to stop representing herself as a vet long before this thread started. To no avail. So flaming the OP for deciding to tell, well. And I understand that others who knew Grataan were suspicious.
I just think that kindness and grace is in order here. If no one was harmed, can we just find grace and let it go? I mean, I get the funny stuff and have been enjoying it. But the fact that nothing has popped up in defense makes me think that the OP isn't off base. That means that there is an actual human being out there who probably feels like her world is crumbling to some extent.
There is a time for criticism but there's also a time for grace.
I've met a few COTH'ers. Most have been nice folks, but some are hiding behind fancy websites with pretty pictures and you'd certainly be surprised to see what the place (and the condition of the horses) looks like in real life.
"Bonnaroo". Didn't happen to be a VW by chance? :lol:
If any of you know who Grataan really is and can verify that she is indeed a veterinarian, then shame on you for not speaking up.
Best post so far is Buddyroo's meeting Lex at the dog park story. Loved it.
*L* Truly, I am not trying to upset any apple carts here! It seems to me that cummings capitalized certain words to draw attention to them. Me the victim accusing (Staring at) You the perpetrator for What you have done to me. The small i later in the poem is because i am bewildered, i am small, i am fading away as the poem progresses.
But! I absolutely do see your perspective as well and make no assertions that mine is the correct one. All along I've said that this is *my* interpretation.
I guess I'm wondering whether OP PMed Graatan about her concerns first, before posting. To me it seems like a blind siding.
I don't know Graatan. I don't know TiC/Alter horse.
Personally, I don't think it's a kindness to let someone be delusional. I don't think it's kindness to us NOR TO THEM. Because in there, really, is someone who desperately feels "less than" and that they need to bolster themselves with false representations of who they are. Now - if someone is schizophrenic and can't be helped, well that's entirely different.
Sometimes you have to hold a mirror up to it, as ugly as that is, so that they can see what's wrong. That's the only way to do it. Now Grataan has to confront that, and hopefully in that space, she can have a learning moment.
But the message that I would send is - Grataan, you're enough as you are. You're knowledgeable enough as you are, and there's no need to represent yourself as someone else.
And that goes for everyone else here too...
Now - about that popcorn...
I'm not trying to be a total limp cucumber here, but I just think that if someone has done something like this, there's more going on behind the scenes and the LAST thing they need is a witch hunt.
You just never know if your words or actions could be the difference between someone being okay and someone taking extreme measures.
If none of us have been harmed, and there's not actionable measure to take as a result, then taking note and moving on is probably the best to be done. For us and for the person in question. I would hate to think that I contributed to someone spiraling down over something like this where we should all have our antennae up and doing our own due diligence.
If no harm has been done, then best to let it go IMHO. Graatan has given a lot of good advice from what I've seen--though I've not been here that long--but what do we as a group have to gain from a witch hunt? Me? Nothing. <shrugs>
I'm more concerned about the human being who is perpetuating a myth and is tied up in it. THat means we have a hurt/sick person. And a hurt/sick person needs empathy and kindness. Not an attack. If we all know the truth (assuming it is) then we can protect ourselves from bad advice--which we should do anyway--but I see little evidence of anything actionable or harmful really.
That's just me though. I respect others' reactions.
Or maybe it means they're disappointed that it wasn't you, because if it was that would've been a happy thing & maybe you two could meet. Sort of a shorthand thing of "Aw, too bad, I was hoping it was you. Bummer."
Well, I did roll that lovely car twice on I-96 and was lucky to get out alive, albeit with a totaled car. And I AM down to one car here. AND, it wasn't me with the BRoo plate. Perhaps you're right. :)
By the time people post threads like this, most of them have done everything they could to not go through being doubted and questioned.
I think at this point most of us HAD moved on, to talking about wine, popcorn and the silly ways we aren't our usernames, Buddy. Although I've never heard anyone calling themselves a cucumber? What does that even mean?