Well said, sunny59.
Well said, sunny59.
oops, had to do one more since that was a response to my post. I had already done those things a long time ago.... I undertand the argument you are making, just not the conclusion and the reason is the conclusion doesn't make sense. So I looks for alternative explanations that do make sense.
Where? At sigonella? They are there - at most it was an hour away. At most. Odds are better either the drone was armed or the ac130 was onsite. Ask anyone who has dealt in close air support regarding laser guided ordnance. To "detect" the laser guide, the mortar people who were trying to detect it in the scenario described would have had to have a laser warning receiver as it is not as simple as just pointing IR goggles around to see if you can catch a signal. It doesn't work that way.
I understand that the conclusion is what is at issue here...I too want to know what is being hidden so we all understand. The question isn't "was there a cover up" as obviously there was one with the whole video thing. The question is who and why.
Oh, goody, National Geographic Channel is showing ads for their movie about
the killing of Bin Laden Sunday. Wonder if anything will happen in the Mid-east
over it since they were supposedly so incensed over the youtube video? Most of the protesters at the various embassies on 9/11 were chanting "we are all Osamas, Obama."
There's a made for the theaters movie about the Bin Ladin raid that was supposed to come out in October but Sony backed the opening date up until after the election.
The bad guys have never stopped being bad guys, unless you count winter when fighting calms down ANYWAY. Afghanistan is an unwinnable conflict. Incredibly difficult terrain, and everyone split into tribes.
Someone suggesting that the US shouldn't follow Geneva convention is sickening. The US has killed tens of thousands of civilians in the Middle East the last decade as it is. Intelligence should have been doing what this war has attempted to do all along.
I never suggested we shouldn't follow the Geneva convention, I was pointing out the difference between them and US. They have an advantage because we have rules of engagement and they KNOW it. It is a weakness. That doesn't mean I believe we should stop adhering to the Geneva convention.
And if you think that by telling them exactly when we plan to leave we didn't weaken our own position then you just demonstrated very clearly for everyone your failure to grasp basic military tactics.
Come up with something other than calling me names and telling me how "sickening" I am. Grow up.
"The makers of a movie on the 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden -- and which airs two days before the election -- say it is not an endorsement of President Obama."
Obama, hillary and susan rice all claimed the Benghazi attack that killed 4 Americans was the result of a Youtube video, YET, they have no problem with the release of this film, because it glorifies obama... Plus the films Producer is a big obama supporter. How convenient. :rolleyes:
Recieved this in an email today: Very well said!
When Obama called the SEALs, they got bin Laden, but when the SEALs called Obama, they got denied"
Wow. The childishness continues. You're going around in packs.
You picked three nutball actors as the ones to be proud of?
Bottom line, the man needs to do the job he was elected to do instead of trying to get 4 more years. There is a time to campaign and a time to work. Apparently, this dishonorable man has no idea about timing.
I will give credit on one thing to the person who calls himself Commander in Chief. He told us point blank what he was going to do when he made the statement in 2008 that America was a great nation, he wanted us to help him fundamentally change it. Many people thought it was a gaffe, but I don't believe so. He was raised by Socialists, mentored by an admitted Communist, and associated with domestic terrorists. Who knows what kind of vile ideas he has or what his motivations are/were. His actions have shown his character. Someone on here has the sig line-When someone shows you who they are, believe them...
Well, I have seen him,and I believe him to be dishonorable. Being stupid or hard headed or just wrong can be overlooked. Mistakes can be forgiven. Being dishonorable--not sure how that one can be overlooked.