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No, Palin and Bachman brought that on themselves with the utter ridiculousness of some of their statements. No one did that but them. I hate to see women ostracized or treated unfairly, but that was NOT the case with these two. Bush was not articulate when giving speeches, and unfortunately people decided that he was unintelligent because of this. Not true, but when a comedian gets ahold of ANYONE in the name of entertainment, what are you going to do? The smart thing to do is laugh WITH them.
I'll clarify. What I mean is "like the person who posted that ABC adored Obama and that ABC slammed anyone who disagreed. I used the word slammed. You used the phrase "jumps down the throat of." You wrote:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluey
"now ABC has been sounding like an Obama infomercial since he became president and jumps down the throat of anyone daring to say any other than how wonderful he and everything else is"
And I asked for examples of ABC jumping down the throat of anyone. Got nada. (lol)
Ok so Palin and Bachman were not perfect. But Hilary gets a pass for the "right-wing" conspiracy during the Monica farce and being unable to find documents that "suddenly" appeared on a table in the WH? Shall we look at the tape of Biden asking, twice, if anyone in the audience had family members in Iraq and Iran. . .and Harry Reid raised his hand both times. I could go on, but it is pointless. Dems misspeak, Repubs are stupid in your world.Quote:
Originally Posted by lauriep
I already explained why I don't have examples, I turned them off when they were doing that, so don't remember who was saying what.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anne FS
That is also why I don't listen to Fox or any of those others that make being for or against any one public figure their paying jobs.
I do object to national newscasters not letting anyone say a word even seemingly against their favorite and being so obviously for one political individual many will vote for.
Even if Obama is their personal friend, it is unprofessional as a journalist.
The same if they were doing that for Romney.
I'm with lauriep. Hillary's "right-wing conspiracy" comment was a wife defending her husband and was made prior to a lot of evidence coming to light. That's utterly different than Palin & Bachman's comments. Palin and Bachman set women back. They are not highly intelligent people. Clinton, love her or hate her, is intelligent. Palin and Bachman compared to the brainpower of Condoleeza Rice or Geraldine Ferraro? They're light-years away from those women.
In order for women to succeed and be treated as equals we must maintain honesty. Condoleeza Rice is a brilliant woman whether we agree with her or not. Palin and Bachman are frankly stupid, or let's say not very intelligent if that's kinder, compared to Ms. Rice. There are millions of intelligent, well-educated women in our country both Republican and Democrat, who need to be in high office. Palin and Bachman set women back. It's my opinion that Republicans, being the party of old white men who want to control behind the scenes, deliberately chose Palin because of her looks (not hot to young men but hot to old guys) and her lack of intelligence. Condi Rice would never have let anyone run her office.
So absolutely not that "Repubs are stupid in your world." If they're stupid, call them stupid. If they're bright, call them bright.
Interestingly, much of Monica/Bill/Paula Jones debacle was funded by a rabid rich reactionary who is part of Mellon family. I forget his whole name,, but his first name was Stuart. Stuart Mellon Mott, maybe?
What I think would be ridiculously cool would be for Obama to agree to release "transcripts" if Romney would release an equivalent number of tax returns. I make that would be another seven years. :) Wouldn't that put Trump on the hook?
Yes, I certainly agree with you about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluey
That's a compliment in my book!!! Better than ET! But seriously, I'm sure Minnie reads news in many places on the internet in addition to Fox News!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalie
Minnie - THANKS for that very well written, thought out response!!! LOVED it!
Now I'm really scared. I will never understand how people can go through life without factual information. I just don't/can't understand the phenomena. Maybe "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!" Colonel JessupQuote:
Originally Posted by Green Acres
They can't handle it. And the GOP is so confident of that, that Romney says things in the last debate like "more than half" of the companies Obama gave Dept. of Energy grants to failed. More than half!
The fact checkers checked the FACTS and found that 5 out of 63 failed. IOW, the figure is 8%, not well over 50% as Romney stated publicly and now his fans requote everywhere. The DOE grants had a 92% success rate. Facts? The GOP has become more and more blatant of absolutely making up "facts." Again, Romney LIED. He simply lied.
You know...this goes both ways. That's the problem with some of you...you can't even accept that someone might disagree with you or have a different view of the "facts" or the "truth." If they disagree even with nice long explanations you discount them as insane or stupid or "unable to understand." Did it ever occur to you that YOU might be the one who can't understand or relate to another POV?Quote:
Originally Posted by sunridge1
I noticed that a post I responded to with a quote, so what I was writing made sense, the poster deleted the initial post and guess what, this new forum also deleted her post on my quote.:confused:
That leaves my post not making sense without knowing to what I was responding.
I wonder if others have noticed that also, or if it was a one time glitch?
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by fish
In 'corporate' the main message we hear is to:
Reduce payroll, reduce expenses - increase production.
Make the stockholders happy!!!!!!!!!!
It's sickening when a Fortune 500 CEO has a base salary of $ 30 million, another $ 20 mil in bonuses, get's a 10 % pay raise, while over 1,000 corporate employees are laid off or "retired" so the stock can realize a 20% value increase in a single year (2011).
And Romney is going to convince THAT guy (and there are thousands and thousands of those out there) to hire more employees????
NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
You can't skew facts or truisms. That is why they are considered facts and truth. Now I'm completely puzzled.
The babbling does not stop about "we hate Obama". How about explaining how the 5 point Romney/Ryan plan will fix this economy ? I've only posted it twice.......hating the current President is so much easier than actually debating policies.
I think most people really and truly believe that one day they too will be THAT rich. "If you can dream. And not make dreams your master." Rudyard KiplingQuote:
Originally Posted by luvmytbs
My 1000th post and I quoted Kipling's best. Gold star for me. lol
Or make them zero hour employees with no benefits. How does work for this country ? Fire the states in the red ? Loved the Daily Show's peice on this, funny and yet so true.Quote:
Originally Posted by luvmytbs
On the other hand, many business are not doing anything but the minimum in expanding or hiring because they don't know what will work or not in the coming economic environment.Quote:
Originally Posted by luvmytbs
Remember, if they are on the wrong side of changes, they go bankrupt if they stuck their neck out counting on what didn't happen.
Today's economic insecurity is what is keeping the economy sputtering in the industries I am familiar with.
No fun trying to make any moves with the answers you have figured, when someone will come along and change the questions.
I can tell why it won't, unless you are rich.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by stolen virtue
Yes, happened to me last night regarding FEMA, weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluey