No DNA done on KWPN horses after 2004...final update from KWPN
03/13/2011 - HI! I received further clarification from the KWPN consistent with my original phone conversation. Figured it was worth sharing. Here it is:
Sorry for this misunderstanding. For all KWPN horses born within the Netherlands a hairsample taken by the foalinspector since 2004. All foals within the Netherlands are inspected next to their mothers in year of birth. (My horse's name here) was also inspected in 2005 and also a hairsample was taken by the foalinspector. This sample was filed in our archives (with most of the other hairsamples), because there was no necessity to have a DNA verification for (My Horse) registration. A DNA test is only done as random check or for foals that were born out of embryo transplant, weaned foals, foals with more than one possible stallion as Sire etc., etc.
So the DNA sample for (My Horse) was taken, but the DNA test was not performed. The sample was in our archives, until you asked us for the DNA profile.
I hope to have informed you to your satisfaction.
Update 6:05 am 3/11/10 - also posted on page 2
Here is an email I received from the KWPN. All of my questions were not answered. It offers some clarification and still some confusion.
Indeed we have hairsamples from (nearly all) KWPN registered horses born since 2004. The hairsamples were taken by our foal inspector in year of birth and are kept in our files, so if ever needed we have DNA samples.
The hairsamples will only be used in year of birth, when a DNA test is requested. For instance if mare and foal are stationed abroad and can not be inspected by one of our inspectors, or when the foal is born from embryo transplant, is weaned or can be from more than one stallion as possible Sire, etc.
Since 2007 we also do a DNA test on all mares that were at the KWPN selection to be entered in our studbook.
Please let me know if you have any more questions.
Frederique van Saane "
So DNA requested year of birth. Dont know if required. Still not clear about why no DNA on my horse. Maybe requested but not required? Or not requested unless one of the 3 scenarios occur.
Very interesting! I found out first hand on an imported KWPN horse that became deceased. The horse died before its DNA could be pulled here. I asked the KWPN NA person here about DNA in Holland and she said NO it could not be transfered. I was at a loss of where to get the DNA. I went through the hastle and expense of fed ex overnighting a horse blanket to UCDavis to try to pull DNA. $20 plus $40 test. No luck. I called the horse burial place to see if they could dig up the horse so I could get a tooth or something. NO.
I started to realize that what the KWPN person here told me just sounded really fishy and wrong. I called the KWPN in Holland. I assumed that there was DNA pulled on this KWPN registered horse. Nope but there might be hair on file just incase. Within 2 minutes they were able to tell me that YES they had a hair sample on file! Imagine my surprise when I learned I could still get DNA! $67.
Turns out the KWPN has a bank of hair samples of all horses born after 2004 that they will test when necessary. Very different from how we do it here. All horses have to be DNA tested before they are registered, not after. $127 later, the DNA is confirmed. It certainly would have been nice to get accurate information the first time around and to have not wasted that extra $60. Regardless I am thankful that it all turned out well!
Do any other stud books in europe do this? Is this simply a trend that I was unaware of?
FROM S A MCKEES POST ON PAGE 2:
Originally Posted by S A McKee