As for why be up at this ridiculous hour, sadly I am at work. But at least I'm getting paid! Go back to sleep! :)
This breeding however , is very arrogant in my opinion and has no regard for the welfare of the foal.
Capitol is known to throw very heavy and cold , with short croups and inbred foals to him are now proving to have a very high rate of OCD. He is represented 3 times. Contender has issues with the hind legs and throws it . He is represented twice. Corrado has major issues with topline production and he is represented twice. All this outside of the fact that all 3 sires whice are respresented 7 times , are old type with old blood.
And no Omare........One outcross stallion does not help this. The inbreeding is too concentrated , too close.
i have a slightly different view about linebreeding two of the earlier mentioned stallions. the warnings and failures around linebreeding to contender and acord ii are clear. however, it is getting harder and harder not to linebreed to capitol and there are not many downsides coming from that when the rest of the genotype and phenotypes are fully taken into account. with the right mare it can work fine.
also, corrado can be linebred but only where toplines are strong and again, better when he's further back in the resulting pedigree.
Double Capitol has been working just fine for the production of horses for the sport. Triple Capitol ? Not for me , but I could see it if done properly thru sex balance , just not coupled with double Contender and double Corrado.
I have often considered and may in fact breed one of my Cassini II / Lavaletto / Acord II mares to Campesino. This would line breed the two Capitol sons , thus concentrating his genetics. If you look at the rest of the pedigree also , you will see that Capitol would be the only common horse in that pedigree other than a couple crosses to Corde la bryere far back. Campesino / Cassini II / Lavaletto / Acord II / Sable Skinflint xx........this is a good example of proper linebreeding to Capitol and my mare should be able to accomodate this due to her proper physical construction and she has enough blood.
to go back to the question of Diarado and his foals. i have to say under saddle he is charming to watch work, very easy and compliant, with lovely looseness and a real athletic ease about him. I didnt get to see all his foals at the recent oldenburg foal inspection held here but the ones I did see had a real quality, and to my eye where very elegant, with good toplines and a real ease of movement like their sire. Of course there were one or two that were a little plain and uninteresting but on the whole I liked what I saw a lot, and definatly did not notice a tendancy to smallness which was a rumour I had heard before coming to germany.
There are some pics and come video at these two sites. The first has all Diarado foals and the second is the Hanoverian Foal and Broodmare Auction Site that has some Diarado foals in it. Enjoy!
Just want to share some Diarado out of pony mare bred in France by l' Élevage de Blonde!
ARISTO DE BLONDE
Diarado x Melodie des Courcelles x Vinci du Logis
ATTACCA DE BLONDE
Diarado x Batucada de Blonde x Linaro
ADAMANTE DE BLONDE
Diarado x Daisy de la Forge x Walid Al Fawzan
Now we wait to see what they do as adults.
If you give credit to your mentors in Holstein *and* enjoy their company, where's the harm in that? Much of the tradition of horsemanship, including breeding, is oral. Someone has to preserve that oral tradition. Sitting down and discussing breeding with breeders in Holstein is no different than doing the same with a Kentucky hardboot. Yet somehow on this board I think the latter would be more accepted than the former. More's the pity.
Agreed. Too much inbreeding and totally unnecessary considering what is available in Holstein today.
Thank you SueL !
You hit the nail on the head with "unnecessary". This was my question all along.........why ? It didn't have to be done.
I was very happy with diarado semen. It is all about the mares and the combination that I had turned out very well. Here are a couple of our links. We had another beautiful colt but he had to be put down due to a broken leg. It was horrible. We tried to breed back to our mare with another dose of Diarado but it didnt work. It was a beautiful line breed out of a Contender Cor de La Bryere cross. Now the mare is in foal to Levisonn. Well here ar esome photos and above all I think the temperment is great :)
ok ok, so I asked the owner at the world championship :)
First year: 80 Holsteiner
At his place (holland) 224 mares, and PS about the same. He said in the last 3 years, 1500 (tops) total to date.
So we were both mistaken ;)
1,500 mares at about $1,800.00 per mare is $2,700,000.00. That's a nice chunk of change for a 5 year old stallion who has yet to do anything in competition. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by ;5049795
We have a 2010 Diarado filly. She will be an outstanding professionals horse. With scope, speed, a brain, step and agility. This one will be staying in our breeding program when ready, but will be in the jumper ring to prove this line within the next three years. I expect her in the young jumpers to do extremely well. She was bred for in upstate NY, and I found her actually looking for Chesapeake offspring. Her markings are unique, with a cascading dark bay to sorrel tail, four white stockings, and incredible conformation.
We are looking forward to her future.
She was produced by Saddle Brook Farms in Staatsburg, NY.
I think Branscomb Farm had a very handsome colt this year.
I am hosting a Hanoverian inspection on the 12th, and have a Diarado filly coming out of Pauleah, a very high scoring mare by Papparazzo. Can hardly wait to see her.