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Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 27, 2007, 12:38 AM
I think we could combine all info and discussion on Sat's big race day into one thread to make things easier.

Seven races on the card, six for TBs and one for Arabians. Over $21m on offer altogether, with a truly international field of runners.

Dubai Kahayla Classic (Gr. 1)
Purebred Arabians
Age : 5 yo+
Distance : 2000m/10f
Surface : Dirt
Purse (US$) : 250,000

Godolphin Mile (Gr. 2)
Age : 4 yo+ (NH) - 3 yo+ (SH)
Distance : 1600m/8f
Surface : Dirt
Purse (US$) : 1,000,000

UAE Derby (Gr. 2)
Age : 3 yo
Distance : 1,800 metres / 9f
Surface : Dirt
Purse (US$) : 2,000,000

Dubai Golden Shaheen (Gr.1)
Age : 3 yo+
Distance : 1200m/6f
Surface : Dirt
Purse (US$) : 2,000,000

Dubai Sheema Classic (Gr. 1)
Age : 4 yo+
Distance : 2400m/12f
Surface : Turf
Purse (US$) : 5,000,000

Dubai Duty Free (Gr. 1)
Age : 4 yo+ (NH) - 3 yo+ (SH)
Distance : 1777m/8f+ 177m
Surface : Turf
Purse (US$) : 5,000,000

Dubai World Cup (Gr.1)
Age : 4 yo+ (NH) - 3 yo+ (SH)
Distance : 2000m/10f
Surface : Dirt
Purse (US$) : 6,000,000

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 27, 2007, 01:00 AM
A course map of Nad al Sheba.
http://www.emiratesracing.com/era/images/racecourses/nadalsheba/track.jpg

The track is triangular shaped, about 1½m around, with the Turf course on the inside American style. There is a 6f straight sprint course that extends from the top of the stretch. There are chutes for 1m and 1¼m starts on the dirt course. 1 mile is one turn, 10f is two turn, but because the track is triangular the turns are gentler than the 180 degree turns you see on US tracks. The run-in is 3f.
The turf course is about 11f. The Dubai Duty Free is run over the unusual distance of 1777m, as the course configuration would mean a 1800m (9f) race would be starting on the turn.

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 27, 2007, 02:29 PM
Field for the Sheema Classic. 1½m of the grass.
Interesting line up. Includes last year's Derby winner, Sir Percy, who has dissapointed since. BC Turf winner, Red Rocks. Top Japanese horse, Pop Rock, who was 2nd in the Melbourne Cup as well as 2nd to Deep Impact in the Arima Kinen. The hardknocking and well travelled Collier Hill, a 9yo ex-hurdler who has racked up G1 wins in Can (Candian Intl), HK (HK Vase), Ire (irish St Leger) as well as finishing 2nd to Heart's Cry in this race last year. Top American Turf mare, Honey Ryder. The Aus bred, HK based, Vengance of Rain, who ahs won the Hong Kong Cup twice and beaten the likes of Pride, Bullish Luck, Elvstroem etc over the last few years.
No real giants in here, but a classy field nonethe less, should be an interesting race.



1(1) 3142-6 Bellamy Cay (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28%27%27,%27/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=610052&race_id=428642%27,800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27ye s%27%29) A Fabre (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/trainer_form.sd?trainer_id=1093&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 ) 5 8-11 S Pasquier (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/jockey_form.sd?jockey_id=75499&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 )

2(2) 052-32 Oracle West (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28%27%27,%27/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=617459&race_id=428642%27,800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27ye s%27%29) M F De Kock (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/trainer_form.sd?trainer_id=11054&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 ) 6 8-11 W C Marwing (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/jockey_form.sd?jockey_id=82445&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 )

3(3) 251-25 Laverock (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28%27%27,%27/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=605320&race_id=428642%27,800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27ye s%27%29) Saeed Bin Suroor (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/trainer_form.sd?trainer_id=9546&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 ) 5 8-11 Kerrin McEvoy (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/jockey_form.sd?jockey_id=79582&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 )

4(4) 053-51 Vengeance Of Rain (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28%27%27,%27/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=576155&race_id=428642%27,800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27ye s%27%29) D Ferraris (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/trainer_form.sd?trainer_id=11050&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 ) 7 8-11t A Delpech (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/jockey_form.sd?jockey_id=74994&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 )

5(5) 22231- Red Rocks (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28%27%27,%27/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=643654&race_id=428642%27,800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27ye s%27%29) B J Meehan (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/trainer_form.sd?trainer_id=7221&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 ) 4 8-11 C Nakatani (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/jockey_form.sd?jockey_id=9593&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 )

6(6) 2631-6 Best Alibi (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28%27%27,%27/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=620631&race_id=428642%27,800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27ye s%27%29) Saeed Bin Suroor (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/trainer_form.sd?trainer_id=9546&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 ) 4 8-11 L Dettori (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/jockey_form.sd?jockey_id=2277&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 )

7(7) 1/217- Sir Percy (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28%27%27,%27/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=637859&race_id=428642%27,800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27ye s%27%29) M P Tregoning (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/trainer_form.sd?trainer_id=12125&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 ) 4 8-11 Martin Dwyer (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/jockey_form.sd?jockey_id=11255&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 )

8(8) 222-31 Obrigado (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28%27%27,%27/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=644222&race_id=428642%27,800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27ye s%27%29) N Drysdale (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/trainer_form.sd?trainer_id=4514&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 ) 4 8-11tv D Flores (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/jockey_form.sd?jockey_id=10477&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 )

9(9) 132-71 Sushisan (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28%27%27,%27/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=671318&race_id=428642%27,800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27ye s%27%29) H J Brown (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/trainer_form.sd?trainer_id=17984&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 ) 5 8-11 K Shea (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/jockey_form.sd?jockey_id=76841&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 )

10(10) 1722-2 Pop Rock (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28%27%27,%27/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=666889&race_id=428642%27,800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27ye s%27%29) Katsuhiko Sumii (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/trainer_form.sd?trainer_id=15111&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 ) 6 8-11 O Peslier (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/jockey_form.sd?jockey_id=10162&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 )

11(11) 32111- Collier Hill (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28%27%27,%27/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=539378&race_id=428642%27,800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27ye s%27%29) G A Swinbank (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/trainer_form.sd?trainer_id=12188&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 ) 9 8-11 Dean McKeown (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/jockey_form.sd?jockey_id=78&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 )

12(12) 11-111 Quijano (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28%27%27,%27/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=661610&race_id=428642%27,800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27ye s%27%29) P Schiergen (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/trainer_form.sd?trainer_id=12816&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 ) 5 8-11 A Starke (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/jockey_form.sd?jockey_id=10322&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 )

13(13) 91121- Youmzain (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28%27%27,%27/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=640786&race_id=428642%27,800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27ye s%27%29) M R Channon (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/trainer_form.sd?trainer_id=4676&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 ) 4 8-11 Richard Hughes (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/jockey_form.sd?jockey_id=3793&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 )

14(14) 1413-2 Honey Ryder (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28%27%27,%27/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=595025&race_id=428642%27,800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27ye s%27%29) T Pletcher (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/trainer_form.sd?trainer_id=10697&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 ) 6 8-7b G K Gomez (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/jockey_form.sd?jockey_id=10540&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 )

15(15) 9/84-2 Host (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28%27%27,%27/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=597679&race_id=428642%27,800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27ye s%27%29) T Pletcher (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/trainer_form.sd?trainer_id=10697&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 ) 7 8-11 J R Velazquez (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:OWSize%28"","/horses/jockey_form.sd?jockey_id=10766&code=Flat",800,480,%27no%27,%27yes%27,%27yes%27%29 )

Glimmerglass
Mar. 27, 2007, 03:03 PM
Dubai World Cup (Gr.1)
Age : 4 yo+ (NH) - 3 yo+ (SH)
Distance : 2000m/10f
Surface : Dirt
Purse (US$) : 6,000,000

... and then there were just seven! DRF: Argentine star out of World Cup (http://drf.com/news/article/83526.html)

Storm Mayor did not ship well from South America and will not race.

So remaining are

Kandidate (GB)
Discreet Cat (USA)
Bullish Luck (USA)
Invasor (Arg)
Forty Licks (Arg)
Vermilion (Jpn)
Premium Tap (USA)

Reinforcing the point that Drvmb1ggl3 made in a prior thread that Lava Man's connection would have been far more wise - financially - to have opted for this race. Even a lack luster performance (which we hope is not the case) in Duabi would've guaranteed a solid paycheck.

Glimmerglass
Mar. 27, 2007, 03:08 PM
Godolphin Mile (Gr. 2)
Age : 4 yo+ (NH) - 3 yo+ (SH)
Distance : 1600m/8f
Surface : Dirt
Purse (US$) : 1,000,000

Blatant was withdrawn from the $1 million Godolphin Mile "because of a physical ailment."

Glimmerglass
Mar. 28, 2007, 10:02 AM
Invasor moves to being the betting favorite ...

UK - The Mirror 3/28/07 "Frankie Purring Over Cat's hope" (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/racing/tm_headline=frankie-purring-over-cat-s-hopes&method=full&objectid=18818128&siteid=89520-name_page.html)


"We did a more serious piece over a mile, with a lead horse, two weeks ago and he was very good that day, moving well and very relaxed. "Invasor is a serious opponent, but I am more than happy with my horse - bring him on!"

But punters don't share the Italian's confidence. After a welter of support, Coral yesterday cut Invasor to 5-4 favourite (from 13-8) to gain his revenge on Discreet Cat, who was pushed out to 11-8 (from 5-4).

"We took a string of four figure bets on Invasor this morning which was in stark contrast to the lack of punter interest in Discreet Cat," said the Barkingfirm's Simon Clare.

"Invasor's connections have been publicly bullish about his chance, whereas all kinds of negative rumours and tittle-tattle have been circulating about Discreet Cat."

Sportinglife.com 3/28/07 "Cat Team Ready to Pounce" (http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=racing/07/03/28/RACING_Dubai_Cat.html)


And although Invasor's team insist the ex-Argentine horse is a completely different proposition to the one faced 12 months ago, Crisford also believes Discreet Cat is in the best shape of his life for a first outing over 10 furlongs.

"As a physical specimen he's definitely matured," Crisford added.

"As a two-year-old he [Discreet Cat] still had a lot of development to make, even though he had run well. We basically handled him very carefully and tried not to rush him and put him in hard races too early in his career, but he has continued to progress both physically and mentally throughout the last 12 months."

Trackwork Report for March 27, 2007 (http://www.thoroughbrednews.co.nz/international/Default.asp?id=28562&page_no=0&trainer_id=0&stud_id=0)

They have categories for (on tapeta) Fast Work, Open Canter, Hack Canter; (on turf) Fast Work, Hack Canter

Glimmerglass
Mar. 28, 2007, 01:56 PM
The big guy gets the outside post


Post positions selected today for the $6-million Dubai World Cup, with jockeys, are:

1—Discreet Cat, L. Dettori
2—Vermilion, C. Lemaire
3—Bullish Luck, B. Prebble
4—Kandidate, S. Sanders
5—Premium Tap, K. Desormeaux
6—Forty Licks, M. Kinane
7--Invasor, F. Jara

Glimmerglass
Mar. 28, 2007, 02:45 PM
No comments on the WC race? Seriously this is going to be the biggest race of the year for non-3-yr olds until at least the BC Classic.

DRF "Discreet Cat, Invasor at opposite ends" (http://drf.com/news/article/83555.html)


The team from Godolphin, Discreet Cat's owners, aren't giving up their strategy, but the inside draw could force Dettori to use more of Discreet Cat's ample speed than originally planned. Kandidate is expected to have early pace, and Vermillion also could to be involved in a front-end skirmish. Discreet Cat has been right on top of extremely fast early fractions in some of his races, but has relaxed behind leaders in others - at least briefly. Discreet Cat tends to have a target for the first quarter-mile or so, at which point he can hold back no longer, moving inexorably toward the front.

"If my horse sits somewhere in the middle, has good position, and relaxes, he's got a great chance," trainer Saeed bin Suroor said.

The draw was held Wednesday evening at the Johara Ballroom of the Madinat Jumeirah Souk, a large, lavishly appointed convention and meeting center located on Jumeirah Beach adjacent to the Burj Al Arab, which bills itself as the world's only seven-star hotel. But like post-position draws across the world, Wednesday's was geared more to pomp than importance, with special attention being paid to the local sponsors of all seven of Saturday night's races. Prior to the six Thoroughbred races, there is a race for Arabians.

At the core of the evening's activity lay about five minutes worth of substance, as representatives from each World Cup entrant went stage-ward to choose a sparkling globe with a number, the horse's post position, affixed to it.

Glimmerglass
Mar. 28, 2007, 03:09 PM
SportingLife 3-28 "Big Guns Happy With Cup Draw (http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=racing/07/03/28/RACING_Dubai_Draw.html)
Arch-rival Invasor, meanwhile, was drawn at the opposite end of the starting gate at seven, much to trainer Kiaran McLaughlin's delight.

"We're happy we're drawn outside and not inside so we can keep out of trouble," he said.

"The plan is for us to sit back there and start pulling him up when they head for home, but if the pace is slower he'll be closer."

Arctic Cielo
Mar. 28, 2007, 05:50 PM
Will it be televised?

Linny
Mar. 28, 2007, 07:46 PM
It will be aired on tape on ABC, which is covering the FLA Derby on Sat.

Linny
Mar. 28, 2007, 07:49 PM
From Michele MacDonald on the World Cup Blog:
The Nad al Sheba quarantine area was buzzing Wednesday morning after Godolphin jockey Frankie Dettori paid an impromptu visit to trainer Kiaran McLaughlin’s barn so that he could check out his mount’s main competition in the Dubai World Cup (Gr.1).

Dettori, who will ride undefeated Discreet Cat, went into the stall of 2006 American Horse of the Year Invasor to get a look at how much that McLaughlin-trained rival has filled out since the two horses tangled in last year’s UAE Derby (Gr.2).
The jovial McLaughlin, who knows Dettori well since both have spent many winters racing in Dubai with the Maktoum family, told the jockey that he better take a close look at Invasor’s head.
After all, McLaughlin asserted with a big smile, the only part of Invasor that Dettori will be seeing in the Dubai World Cup is his long black tail.
Onlookers reported that the usually glib Dettori had no immediate comeback.

TouchstoneAcres
Mar. 28, 2007, 09:14 PM
I was surprised when Lava Man was said to be heading to Dubai, and not surprised now that he isn't. I have heard he doesn't travel well and likes to stay put in CA.--Oh I see he entered the Duty Free. Well I hope he breaks his away losing streak!

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 28, 2007, 11:23 PM
... and then there were just seven! DRF: Argentine star out of World Cup (http://drf.com/news/article/83526.html)

Storm Mayor did not ship well from South America and will not race.



That's quite the bummer, I was really looking forward to seeing how he stacked up against top international company. Some of the rumblings coming out of Arg were hinting that he might be the next Invasor. Of course we'll probably here that comparison about a lot of Argie breds for a while.

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 28, 2007, 11:26 PM
No comments on the WC race? Seriously this is going to be the biggest race of the year for non-3-yr olds until at least the BC Classic.

DRF "Discreet Cat, Invasor at opposite ends" (http://drf.com/news/article/83555.html)

It's a pity that it's shaping up to be a just a two horse race. But still, the Maktoum vs Maktoum, US-based v Dubai-based angle is pretty cool, so I'm suprised people aren't more stoked about it.

Glimmerglass
Mar. 29, 2007, 12:18 AM
I think many who are just fixated on Discreet Cat and Invasor are overlooking to their detriment Premium Tap. What else can that horse do to impress folks? He has been winning in great form and is a serious contender for Sat should there be so much as even a slight disruption to the two giants.

As an aside, I thought his Royal Saudi owners changed his name or am I mistaken?

I'll be waiting to hear Kenny Mayne do his "Eeen-va-sore, because he is the best " routine on Saturday :D

To get folks in the mood a fun video:

youtube.com 'Invasor' (by Carly Kaiser) runtime 4:23 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVGscpQ5534)

(Although I would've chosen the extended dance remix of Don't Cry For Me Argentina by Madonna instead)

Glimmerglass
Mar. 29, 2007, 09:59 AM
The past performances of the World Cup entries: here in pdf format (http://www.cdsn.net/dubai/dubai_pps_03312007.pdf)

Jerry Bailey is giving the nod to Discreet Cat. If he had his choice of rides the five-time World Cup champion jock would take DC.

More regarding Premium Tap - from 3-29 "Tap in Full Flow at Nad al Sheba " ("http://www.virtualformguide.com/cgi-bin/tvf/displaynewsitem.pl?20070329nadalsheba.txt)


Although composed and appearing in top condition, Premium Tap swished his tail repeatedly during his restrained gallop.

"He really wanted to do a little more than he was doing," said smiling trainer John Kimmel, who, like his horse, arrived in Dubai on Wednesday just before the post position draw. "I'm pleased with him. You're not going to get any excuses from my camp."

Kimmel has warned observers who have been describing the Dubai World Cup primarily as a match between American Horse of the Year Invasor and Godolphin's undefeated Discreet Cat not to overlook Premium Tap, who has been training for the past month in Saudi Arabia.

Glimmerglass
Mar. 29, 2007, 10:27 AM
ABC Sports will broadcast the Dubai World Cup from Nad Al Sheba Racecourse on tape-delay of about 1-hour from the actual post time. (HRTV will cover the full day live) The show is from 2:30 to 4:30 p.m. eastern - it will feature in addition to the WC the $2 million UAE Derby, also on tape delay.

Will the race be on live via the internet? I know the Dubai Racing Club makes past performances available on line but I don't see for now an option to watch it live. European betting/punter outlets might carry it but "taping into" that internet signal generally requires having been a registered account holder with a Euro-based credit card.

As an aside, also on Saturday the solid if not very impressive line up for the Florida Derby will be covered on HRTV as well as (in a first) in joint partnership with NBCSports.com

This is the first live streaming Webcast of a Grade I stakes race on the Web site of a major broadcast network. That will be on-line from 5:15 to 5:40 p.m. eastern

Barnfairy
Mar. 29, 2007, 02:44 PM
Jerry Bailey is giving the nod to Discreet Cat. If he had his choice of rides the five-time World Cup champion jock would take DC.
Ooh, it's hard to go against JB, but I'm sticking with Eenvasorrrr. He ees the best.

Glimmerglass
Mar. 29, 2007, 03:11 PM
The Uraguayan rolling of the tongue with his name is great. Hear the enthusiastic call of the Gran Premio Nacional, the 3rd leg of the Triple Crown, with Invasor crushing the field and taking the TC:

video youtube.com "2005 G P Nacionale" 2:45 run time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X26GCau4znw)

Unrelated, but a 'bonus video' of an incident discussed last year: youtube.com "Mary Poppins" Visits Ellis Park (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK5v5-x3jPA&NR) :D

DLee
Mar. 29, 2007, 05:00 PM
It is so weird to have been reading about these races for so long, and my son showed up unexpectedly in Dubai. :cool: I guess it's the city of choice for the short leave he gets off the carrier. Just kind of amazing.

Glimmerglass
Mar. 30, 2007, 12:10 AM
In case anyone needed a reminder of how good Discreet Cat is - at least for 1-mile - here is his win last fall without even breaking a sweat:

youtube.com video Jerome Stakes Handicap (G2) Oct 1, 2006; time 1:42 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ0rGZ8eAgY&NR)

Worth noting Discreet Cat carried 124 pounds and gave up as much as 10 pounds to some others in that sprint field.

Although the World Cup is 1 1/4 mi and while he trounced Valid Notebook you can be rather certain Invasor is a whole other league :)

Glimmerglass
Mar. 30, 2007, 01:56 AM
Reuters Photo: Mar 29, 2007 Invasor galloping, rider up not identified (http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070329/ids_photos_sp/r2779571155.jpg)

As mentioned in one of the Invasor articles, he is known to have two lingering 'South American horse' characteristics: (1) he'll run with his head up (2) he'll run with his head cocked to the side

Some additional - and larger - workout photos from 3/29/07:

Cindy Pierson Dulay's 'About.com' racing page (http://horseracing.about.com/od/middleeast/ss/aa032907a.htm)

Image: Lava Man on March 27th (http://horseracing.about.com/od/middleeast/ss/aa032707a.htm)
Image: Invasor on March 27th (http://horseracing.about.com/od/middleeast/ss/aa032707a_2.htm)

Glimmerglass
Mar. 30, 2007, 11:59 AM
UK's Sportling Life gives the nod to Invasor and they haven't given up on Lava Man being a strong threat in the Dubai Duty Free. However they'd pick Best Name, Formal Decree or Flashy Wings first. For the Dubai Sheema Classic they think no horse has a chance whatsoever to knock off Sir Percy.

SportingLife.com "Invasor To Conquer World" (http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=betting/07/03/30/RACING_Dubai_Tips.html)

The NY Post (Ed Fountaine) makes the picks as well for the fantastic Dubai fields and what is going to be an impressive race day. Shockingly in my view they put the nod with Discreet Cat to win it.

NY Post 3-30-07 "Stellar Field for Dubai" (http://www.nypost.com/seven/03302007/sports/stellar_field_for__dubai_world_cup_sports_ed_fount aine.htm)


DUBAI WORLD CUP: Discreet Cat handed Invasor his only loss in 11 starts when he beat him by seven lengths in last year's UAE Derby on the World Cup undercard. Although Discreet Cat has never been the distance and hasn't raced since last November, he's the pick to handle Invasor again.

$1M GODOLPHIN MILE: Boston Lodge, a horse for the course who is 3-for-3 at the distance, gets the nod over Godolphin's Killybegs and France's Merlerault.

$2M UAE DERBY: Give Asiatic Boy, with three daylight wins at Nad Al Sheba this winter, a sight edge over Godolphin's Eu Tambem going a mile-and-an-eighth.

$2M GOLDEN SHAHEEN: American invaders have dominated this six-furlong sprint. Go with Todd Pletcher's Friendly Island, Garrett Gomez riding, over Kelly's Landing and Bishop Court Hill.

$5M SHEEMA CLASSIC: The German gelding Quijano is 10-for-11 including three straight over this turf course going today's mile-and-a-half distance. Youmzain has a chance at a price.

$5M DUBAI DUTY FREE: Can Lava Man finally win outside California going a mile-and-an-eighth on grass? Probably not, especially going up against Mystical, the pride of India, who's won 16 of 19 starts.

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 30, 2007, 09:30 PM
Good man Glimmer, you're about the only one keeping the thread going. You'd think it was some insignificant fair meet was going on in Dubai with the lack of interest.

lizathenag
Mar. 30, 2007, 10:19 PM
no lack of interest, just nothing to say. . .

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 30, 2007, 10:22 PM
The field for the Dubai Duty Free, 1777m.
An interesting, nay fascinating race this one. First off, the distance, an extended mile, or an abbreviated 9f, depending on how you look at it. Is it a race for milers or 1¼m horses? With Nad al Sheba being flat as a pancake, with gentle turns and a 2½f run-in, there are no excuses for traffic problems.
The Euro contingent is a bit anemic this year. Best Name, Stormy River and the filly Flashy Wings wouldn't be considered top tier. Despite the lack of top Euro milers (this race would have been perfect for a horse like George Washington imo), there is some class horses that have flown in from around the world.
The Japanese duo of Admire Moon and Daiwa Major are topping the betting, with justification. Of the pair, I'd give the edge to Daiwa Major, as he's more a true miler than Admire Moon, who strikes as more of a middle distance horse.
The South African mare Irredesence could be a serious treat is she has recovered her form of early last year when she put away the likes of Ouija Board and Bullish Luck in the QEII in Hong Kong. She was sent to France in the summer and came up short in open company in the Prix du Moulin (8f) against some decent milers, and then finishing down the field against F&Ms in the Prix de L'Opera on Arc day.
There are a couple of South African campaigned horses, Kapil and Bad Girl Runs. Hard to know how they stack up here.
One of the most interesting entires in the field is appropriatley named Indian horse, Mystical. A multiple stakes winning champion back in India, he has won two prep races since arriving at Nad al Sheba in Feb. How good is he? We'll find out.

There are three US contenders in this one. Of the three, English Channel would stand head and shoulders above as the classiest Turf horse. However I don't think this distance suits him at all, and think he will lack for the big closing kick. Lava Man is an interesting entry, but even putting aside his well known inability to perform outside of California, he will also be facing much tougher Turf horses than he is used too in his few grass races. Miesique's Approval comes into this as the reigning BC Mile champ, but I personally don't rate this horse and felt his win in the Mile was a bit of an anomoly. He won't be running on a tight 7f turf course tomorrow, so I don't fancy his chances (watch him prove me wrong).

My bet for the race though is the Aussie invader, Pompeii. He is in great form at the moment, won the Australian Cup 3 weeks ago, beating a strong field that included Twaqueet, the classy Coolmore/Aus filly, Aqua d'Amore and El Segundo. Two weeks before that he won the St George Stakes (G2) beating many of the same oppostition. Last Nov he was involved in one the most exciting race finishes of the year, finishing 3rd by ¼L to Fields of Omagh, in the Cox Plate (G1). The distance suits, he's proven and he's showing all the signs of an Aussie horse racing himself into form, as they like to do down under.

1(1) 6-3321 Seihali D Selvaratnam 8 9-0b J Murtagh 20/1
2(2) 2814-4 Best Name Saeed Bin Suroor 4 9-0 L Dettori 12/1
3(3) 21424- Stormy River N Clement 4 9-0 O Peslier 10/1
4(4) 1154-3 Irridescence M F De Kock 6 8-9 W C Marwing 14/1
5(5) 117-11 Lava Man Doug O´Neill 6 9-0tv C Nakatani 7/1
6(6) 111-11 Mystical S Ganapathy 5 9-0 Martin Dwyer 25/1
7(7) 112-31 Kapil M F De Kock 5 9-0 R Fradd 20/1
8(8) 23-711 Pompeii Ruler Mick Price 5 9-0 C Newitt 8/1
9(9) 3/023- Flashy Wings M R Channon 4 8-9 Richard Hughes 25/1
10(10) 4732-1 Admire Moon H Matsuda 4 9-0t Y Take 5/1
11(11) 1413-1 English Channel T Pletcher 5 9-0 J R Velazquez 10/1
12(12) 1141-5 Miesque´s Approval M D Wolfson 8 9-0t E Castro 10/1
13(13) 44113- Daiwa Major Hiroyuki Uehara 6 9-0h K Ando 1 11/2
14(14) 31-112 Formal Decree Saeed Bin Suroor 4 9-0 Kerrin McEvoy 14/1
15(15) /170-1 Bad Girl Runs M F De Kock 5 8-9 M J Kinane 33/1
16(16) 1245-1 Linngari H J Brown 5 9-0 K Shea 16/1

FatDinah
Mar. 30, 2007, 11:03 PM
I don't have a comment. But thanks for posting it and especially posting the television info. I can't wait.
Although my co-workers are tired of my "En-vas-or, he is the best" shout-outs.

Linny
Mar. 31, 2007, 09:09 AM
The "play of the day" is Irridescence in the Duty Free. She is ready to run the race of her life and is 30-1 on the ML.

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 09:20 AM
The favourite wins the first race, and a woman trainer to boot, ex point to pointer Gillian Duffield.
Sheihk Hamdan off to a good start... is this a good omen for Invasor?
So hard to get used to Arabians trying to be TBs, just looks weird.


DUBAI KAHAYLA CLASSIC (Arabians, 10f, G1, $250k)

1. Madjani (FR)


Btw, the winning time was 2:16:20.... Secretariat could have spotted these guys 3/16s mile and still beat them

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 09:32 AM
Btw, that's the third year in a row that Madjani has won this race.
His breeding.... Tidjani (FR) - Salama (TN) by Sibawaih (TN)
I wonder what country TN stands for? (no, it ain't Tennesee).

Forego
Mar. 31, 2007, 09:35 AM
Please keep the updates coming,my satellite is down!

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 09:41 AM
Horses behind the gate for the Godolphin Mile. Horses loading 1 minute to post.

You can watch at www.youbet.com
They are streaming the Channel 4 feed from England, fantastic coverage, lots of cool informative stuff.

Forego
Mar. 31, 2007, 09:43 AM
Thanks!

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 09:46 AM
Spring at Last takes the Godolphin Mile for trainer Doug O'Neill, a facile win in the end, pulling away in the last furlong.

Godolphin Mile (G2, $1m)

1. Spring at Last
2. Parole Board
3. Mullins Bay

Glimmerglass
Mar. 31, 2007, 10:08 AM
Options with getting the race:

(As suggested by equidaily.com)

Audio /Radio coverage via punter site William Hill (http://62.25.99.250/williamhill/index.aspx?media=1)

Video link to track offerings - Dubai is listed (http://www2.capitalcentral.com/racing/troy.html); the rub is you appear to must have a youbet.com account

The results are there at least too

Dubai Racing Club - Race Replays 2007 (http://dubaiworldcup.com/media/video/video_2007.asp)

And of course HRTV is covering it live

ABC Sports will have the World Cup at 2:30 EASTERN today

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 10:13 AM
8 mtp for the UAE Derby, horses getting ready to come out on the track. There are 5 South American bred horses in this one, three from Argentina (including the hot favourite, Asiatic Boy, trained by South afrrican strapper, Michel De Kock), and two from Brasil.
If a Northern hemisphere horse wins this they'll have an garunteed spot in the starting gate at Churchill for the KD should they decide to go.

Field

UAE Derby 2000m (~10f), G2, $2m
1 RALLYING CRY (USA) 3/55kgs S bin Suroor UAE T Durcan
2 JACK JUNIOR (USA) 3/55kgs B Meehan UK R Hills
3 JOE LOUIS (ARG) 3/59kgs I Jory KSA M Kinane
4 DAY PASS (USA) 3/55kgs S bin Suroor UAE G Gomez
5 VICTORY TETSUNI (USA) 3/55kgs H Mori JPN Y Take
6 TRAFFIC GUARD (USA) 3/55kgs J Moore UAE J Egan
7 BARTOLA (ARG) 3/57kgs J C Maldotti KSA P Falero
8 GREETINGS (BRZ) 3/57kgs P Nickel Filho BRZ R Mullen
9 SEAL POINT (USA) 3/55kgs C Wroe UAE P Eddery
10 ASIATIC BOY (ARG) 3/59kgs M de Kock UAE W Marwing
11 FOLK (USA) 3/53kgs S bin Suroor UAE K McEvoy
12 ADIL (KSA) 3/55kgs J Gardel KSA K Desormeaux
13 EU TAMBEM (BRZ) 3/59kgs S bin Suroor UAE L Dettori

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 10:17 AM
Horses loading. Bartola giving major problems loading, took almost the whole gate crew to manhandle him in.

Glimmerglass
Mar. 31, 2007, 10:18 AM
...including the hot favourite, Asiatic Boy, trained by South afrrican strapper, Michel De Kock

I believe that the Daily Racing Form referred to him as the Todd Pletcher of South Africa ;)

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 10:20 AM
Asiatic Boy in a cakewalk..... wow!!! This was more impressive that Discreet Cat's romp last year.

Folks, the new Invasor?????

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 10:24 AM
I believe that the Daily Racing Form referred to him as the Todd Pletcher of South Africa ;)

Quite possibly the most underrated trainer in the world.
It'll be interesting to see what he does now having a Dirt horse of this kind of quality, it really was a sensational win by Asiatic Boy. I wonder if he'll come stateside. Has de Kock ever sent out a horse in the US?

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 10:27 AM
Result of the UAE Derby

1. Asiatic Boy 11/10f
2. Jack Junior 30/1
3. Adil

Glimmerglass
Mar. 31, 2007, 10:37 AM
At lot of well known American runners in the 4th race: Bishop Court Hill, Kelly's Landing, Thor's Echo, Friendly Island, Harvard Avenue, Nightmare Affair .... with a quick glance you'd think this was a Grade 1 race at Santa Anita or Gulfstream!

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 10:44 AM
Well, 6f on the dirt, how more American can you get? :)

Though interestingly, of the 16 runners, 9 are bred outside the US (GB-2, IRE-2, SAF-2, JPN-1, FR-1, AUS-1). Still, you'd have to go with American horses here, the others are just chancing their arm, except maybe the Japanese horse, Agnes Jedi. The first three in the BC Sprint are in this one.

One thing the American horses won't be used to is that it's a straight 6f, no turns. Still, hasn't bothered them in the past.

1 BISHOP COURT HILL (USA) 7/57kgs T Pletcher USA J Velazquez
2 AREYOUTALKINGTOME (GB) 4/57kgs C Cyzer UK E Ahern
3 KELLY'S LANDING (USA) 6/57kgs E Kenneally USA L Dettori
4 MARCHAND D'OR (FR) 4/57kgs F Head FR D Bonilla
5 THOR'S ECHO (USA) 5/57kgs S Seemar UAE T Durcan
6 TIZA (SAF) 4/57kgs H Brown SAF K Shea
7 AGNES JEDI (JPN) 5/57kgs H Mori JPN Y Take
8 FRIENDLY ISLAND (USA) 6/57kgs T Pletcher USA G Gomez
9 SALAAM DUBAI (AUS) 5/57kgs A Selvaratnam UAE J Murtagh
10 TERRIFIC CHALLENGE (USA) 5/57kgs D Watson UAE R Mullen
11 BOUNTY QUEST (GB) 5/57kgs D Watson UAE M Dwyer
12 THAJJA (IRE) 6/57kgs D Watson UAE R Hills
13 HARVARD AVENUE (USA) 6/57kgs D O'Neill USA C Nakatani
14 SEEKING THE BEST (IRE) 6/57kgs H Mori JPN Y Fukunaga
15 NATIONAL COLOUR (SAF) 4/55kgs S Tarry SAF W Marwing
16 NIGHTMARE AFFAIR (USA) 6/57kgs G Marano USA E Castro

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 11:01 AM
American 1-2 in the big Sprint, with the giant (17.2hh??) Kelly's Landing storming home on the rail with Frankie Dettori in the irons.

Golden Shaheen, 6f, $2m G1

1. Kelly's Landing
2. Friendly Island
3. Salaam Dubai

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 11:04 AM
Frankie does his traditional flying dismount apres race.
Big hit with the crowd.

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 11:14 AM
Ok, now we get to the real racing. Up next, the Sheema Classic.
Unfortunately, the much travelled old man, Collier Hill, has been scrtached due to the recourance of an old ankle injury. He may be retired, which will be well earned.


Sheema Classic, 2400m (1½m) Turf, $5m


1 BELLAMY CAY (GB) 5/56kgs A Fabre KSA S Pasquier
2 ORACLE WEST (SAF) 5/56kgs M de Kock SAF W Marwing
3 LAVEROCK (IRE) 5/56kgs S bin Suroor UAE K McEvoy
4 VENGEANCE OF RAIN (NZ) 6/56kgs D Ferraris HK A Delpech
5 RED ROCKS (IRE) 4/56kgs B Meehan USA C Nakatani
6 BEST ALIBI (IRE) 4/56kgs S bin Suroor UAE L Dettori
7 SIR PERCY (GB) 4/56kgs M Tregoning UK M Dwyer
8 OBRIGADO (FR) 4/56kgs N Drysdale USA D Flores
9 SUSHISAN (AUS) 4/56kgs N Brown SAF K Shea
10 POP ROCK (JPN) 6/56kgs K Sumii JPN O Peslier
11 COLLIER HILL (GB) 9/56kgs A Swinbank UK D McKeown
12 QUIJANO (GER) 5/56kgs P Schiergen GER A Starke
13 YOUMZAIN (IRE) 4/56kgs M Channon UAE R Hughes
14 HONEY RYDER (USA) 6/54kgs T Pletcher USA G Gomez
15 HOST (CHI) 6/56kgs T Pletcher USA J Velazquez

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 11:24 AM
Is anyone else watching the half time show? Some fantastic horsemanship, both mounted and in hand, Iberian horses mostly.
You guys got to see this.

Those Maktoums put on some show, fair play to them.

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 11:51 AM
Three joint favourites in this one, Pop Rock, Sir Percy and Red Rocks all 9/2.
Wide open race here.

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 12:00 PM
Vengance of Rain!!!!!!!!!
The Classic goes to Hong Kong.

Oracle West was 2nd for South Africa.
Derby winner, Sir Percy looks to have got up for 3rd.

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 12:05 PM
Vengance of Rain was bred in New Zealand.
Raced in Australia.
Sold to Hong Kong.
Is trained by a South African.
Ridden by a jockey from the Seychelles.

Now, that's international racing!

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 12:08 PM
Offical result, Youzmain pips Sir Percy for 3rd.

Sheema Classic, 2400m $5m

1. Vengance of Rain
2. Oracle West
3. Youmzain

TouchstoneAcres
Mar. 31, 2007, 12:08 PM
Now for the really good stuf! And just think, we have the Florida Derby later!

grits
Mar. 31, 2007, 12:09 PM
Thanks for these updates! I'm reading them avidly.

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 12:33 PM
Dubai Duty Free up next.
Possibly the best field of the card.

Dubai Duty Free 1777m (~1m+¾f), $5m

1 SEIHALI (IRE) 8/57kgs D Selvaratnam UAE J Murtagh
2 BEST NAME (GB) 4/57kgs S bin Suroor UAE L Dettori
3 STORMY RIVER (FR) 4/57kgs N Clement FR O Peslier
4 IRRIDESCENCE (SAF) 5/55kgs M de Kock USA W Marwing
5 LAVA MAN (USA) 6/57kgs D O'Neill USA C Nakatani
6 MYSTICAL (IND) 5/57kgs S Ganapathy IND M Dwyer
7 KAPIL (SAF) 4/57kgs M de Kock SAF R Fradd
8 POMPEII RULER (AUS) 5/57kgs M Price AUS C Newitt
9 FLASHY WINGS (GB) 4/55kgs M Channon UAE R Hughes
10 ADMIRE MOON (JPN) 4/57kgs H Matsuda JPN Y Take
11 ENGLISH CHANNEL (USA) 5/57kgs T Pletcher USA J Velazquez
12 MIESQUE'S APPROVAL (USA) 8/57kgs M Wolfson USA E Castro
13 DAIWA MAJOR (JPN) 6/57kgs H Uehara JPN K Ando
14 FORMAL DECREE (GER) 4/57kgs S bin Suroor UAE K McEvoy
15 BAD GIRL RUNS (SAF) 4/55kgs M de Kock SAF M Kinane
16 LINNGARI (IRE) 5/57kgs H Brown SAF K Shea

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 12:37 PM
The Japanese horses are jt fav, at 7/1. Lava Man is 2nd fav at 8/1!! That suprises me.

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 12:38 PM
Miesique's Approval acting up outside the gate, kicking out.

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 12:48 PM
Admire Moon, does it in style, a late run from Linngari made the winning margin look small, but he won easing. The other Japanese horse Daiwa Major was 3rd.
Dissapointing run from Irredessence.
Lava Man was last.


1. Admire Moon
2. Linngari
3. Daiwa Major

Forego
Mar. 31, 2007, 12:51 PM
So sorry about Lava Man,but I still have all my fingers crossed for Premium Tap!

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 01:31 PM
Horses loading in the big one.
Invasor now the fav at 5/4.

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 01:37 PM
Invasooooor!!

The best horse in the world without any shadow of a doubt. A great stretch duel with Premium Tap, who ran a great race, but Invasor pulled away in the last ½f.

Discreet Cat was last, never got into to the race at all.

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 01:38 PM
Kiaran McLaughlin is overjoyed, couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 01:41 PM
What a last year it's been for the young Panamanian jockey, Fernando Jara. He must be on cloud nine.

The old turf horse from Hong Kong, Bullish Luck, is best of the rest in 3rd.

Dubai World Cup, 2000m (~10f) $6m

1. Invasor
2. Premium Tap
3. Bullish Luck

TouchstoneAcres
Mar. 31, 2007, 01:42 PM
I believe that Invasor won't ever lose if he has any say in it at all. Premium Tap ran a great race but I get the feeling Invasor is a competitor like Seabiscuit and can stare them down at the end. He has a lot of heart. But kudos to PT too and both won a lot of $. Too bad Discreet cat wasn't in it--would have liked to see the 3 compete.

Frog
Mar. 31, 2007, 02:14 PM
:yes: Wow.

BasqueMom
Mar. 31, 2007, 04:24 PM
Double wow!!!

Glimmerglass
Mar. 31, 2007, 04:38 PM
INVASOR ROCKS!

I just caught the ABC coverage of the last race on their program - impressive! No Lasix, no problemo :D We are seeing in our midst (and this isn't a shock to those who have been watching him all last year) a super horse take the stage.

Tough as shoe leather - from beating Sun King in a thriller in the Whitney Handicap last year to the Breeders' Cup to even clipping heels in the Donn Handicap ... he takes the licks and beats 'em all.

Premium Tap gets a big nod too for being right there with him but Fernando was toying with PT and gave orders to Invasor to finish him off.

Brilliant and beautiful!

"Eenvasor, beause he is the best"

Discreet Cat should just stick to the mile and enjoy being king of that distance.

As an aside, I only see the results for Lava Man not the video yet - anything wrong in particular with him? :( Dead last in that large turf field and after looking so good in his workouts there in Dubai seems exceptionally odd

FatDinah
Mar. 31, 2007, 04:48 PM
What a nice thing for Invasor's trainer to say about the sheik, "What do you give a man who had everything?" A great horse and a great win. So true.
And Jara, what a jockey, he sat so chilly down that stretch.

Kudos to to Premium Tap and his connections, they have sure proven he was no flash in the pan last year.

What a great racing event, it's now on my lifetime list, along with August in Saratoga.

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 31, 2007, 04:49 PM
As an aside, I only see the results for Lava Man not the video yet - anything wrong in particular with him? :( Dead last in that large turf field and after looking so good in his workouts there in Dubai seems exceptionally odd

About 2f out, when the field started to kick, as you typically see in a top class Turf race, he stopped like a rock.
Two things
a) he was out of his depth against this class of turf horse.
b) no racedays meds. Methinks he likes his Lasix.

Btw, the replays are up on the World Cup site... http://dubaiworldcup.com/media/video/video_2007.asp#

Glimmerglass
Mar. 31, 2007, 05:01 PM
Methinks he likes his Lasix

Which easily could be the key factor. As Jerry Bailey pointed out when some horses go off it, as soon as they bleed and taste blood, they stop. Easily that could've been the case for Lava Man. And if it was the case then going into the WC would've been moot.

Thanks for the letting us know the replays are now up on the DRC site!

It goes without saying - but I will anyhow - the camera shots are always excellent for the Dubai races! No b.s. with ants on the backstretch, rather feeling like you know just how tense or relaxed the horses are as they move along. You could tell by watching the video how calm Invasor was and how he was waiting for the signal to go.

Did anyone catch the time? Just a shade under 2:00 (I [i]think it was 1:59.9) for the 2nd fastest running. To those who think Invasor plods along, that might have been the case in 2006 - he's a monster in 2007.

I pitty the fool, for now, who thinks they can knock him off in the Breeders' Cup Classic. Stalker? No need. He can set the pace or sit back - having that flexibility in style is exceptionally dangerous for those who try and predict what he'll do.

I bet they are still partying in Uraguay :D

I'm EBO
Mar. 31, 2007, 05:14 PM
For me (now a fan because of Barbaro) it seemed strange to see people leading the horses instead of the ponies. And, the area behind the gates looked frighteningly small.

Which method of leading and loading is more common in Europe and Asia? The one we use or the one Dubai uses? (I assume they can afford anything they want.)

The sheiks aren't real demonstrative guys, are they?

Glimmerglass
Mar. 31, 2007, 05:15 PM
Did anyone catch the time? Just a shade under 2:00 (I think it was 1:59.9) for the 2nd fastest running.

Final Winning Time: 1:59:97

Race Chart for US$6,000,000 Dubai World Cup (Group 1) (http://www.dubaiworldcup.com/races/results/races_2007_07.asp)

Huge image of Invasor [blue/white] drawing away from Premium Tap [white/red] (http://www.dubaiworldcup.com/common/images/media/gallery/hi/20070331_07.jpg)

Linny
Mar. 31, 2007, 05:16 PM
Methinks the party in Uruguay will go on for days!!!

Glimmerglass
Mar. 31, 2007, 05:43 PM
The $3.6 million winner's share of the World Cup purse boosted Invasor's earnings to $7,804,070, the fourth-best total in racing history. Should Invasor complete his season with another Breeders' Cup Classic win, he would surpass Cigar atop the all-time earnings list [in the US].

McLaughlin said Invasor might next start in the Suburban Handicap (Grade 1) on June 30 at Belmont.

Last year Invasor won the Suburban Handicap too. Only two other horses have ever won that race twice: Kelso ['61 & '63] and Crusader ('26 & '27).

Linny
Mar. 31, 2007, 07:47 PM
Interestingly, they DWC paid $$$ to 6th and Sheikh Mo is the only owner who doesn't get paid. The 6th place finisher got $120k.

Slewdledo
Mar. 31, 2007, 07:53 PM
For me (now a fan because of Barbaro) it seemed strange to see people leading the horses instead of the ponies. And, the area behind the gates looked frighteningly small.

Which method of leading and loading is more common in Europe and Asia? The one we use or the one Dubai uses? (I assume they can afford anything they want.)

The sheiks aren't real demonstrative guys, are they?

I believe that we in North America are the only folks who pony horses to the post.

The sheiks....Sheikh Mohammed (owner of Discreet Cat) looked a little upset at the trophy presentation to Invasor's connections.

Linny
Mar. 31, 2007, 08:21 PM
Invasor is owned by Sheikh Mo's older brother, Sheikh Hamdan. Right after the race they showed Sheikh Mo speaking with Dettori and bin Suroor, obviously upset about DC's non-effort. This was before Invasor was back to the winner's area.

Only the US uses ponies. The starting gate area is marked by ropes held by assistants behind the gate. As the loading takes place they move closer to the "barrier."

FatDinah
Mar. 31, 2007, 10:30 PM
I thought Dettori showed class, he didn't duck the questioner but he didn't try to blame anything, just said it wasn't their day.

WindyIsles
Mar. 31, 2007, 11:36 PM
Bravo Invasor!! :yes:

vineyridge
Apr. 1, 2007, 12:16 PM
Looks as if the Asians did really well yesterday. The Japanese won 4 races on the day, including The Duty Free, and a Horse from Hong Kong won the Sheema Classic.

The World Cup had horses from all over the racing world. What a great day for the sport.

So when will Invasor be retired to stud? Tomorrow? :)

Linny
Apr. 1, 2007, 04:03 PM
I only count 2 Asian winners, Vengeance of Rain (HK) and Admire Moon (JPN) while Dubai's Sh Hamdan won the DWC, the US won 2 with Spring at Last and Kelly's Landing while So. African trained but So. American bred Asiatic Boy won the UAE Derby.

rcloisonne
Apr. 1, 2007, 04:05 PM
Throat abscess blamed for Discreet Cat's poor performance:

http://www.sportinglife.com/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=racing/07/04/01/RACING_Cat_Lead.html

Glimmerglass
Apr. 1, 2007, 04:50 PM
So when will Invasor be retired to stud? Tomorrow? :)

Thnakfully the game plan from the owners to the trainer: repeat the Breeders' Cup victory!


INVASOR TEAM TARGET BREEDERS' CUP
SportingLife.com April 1, 2007

Kiaran McLaughlin is eyeing a second Breeders' Cup victory with Invasor following his triumph in the Dubai World Cup.

The five-year-old took last year's Breeders' Cup Classic at Churchill Downs and McLaughlin is keen to bid for a repeat at Monmouth Park in November.

"This horse was always special and the build-up (to Dubai) went so well," said McLaughlin on Sunday.

"He looks fine this morning and we will ship back and look towards the Breeders' Cup again, hopefully."

Invasor notched his 11th win from 12 starts in the 10-furlong Nad Al Sheba feature, eventually seeing off fellow American raider Premium Tap after an exciting battle up the straight.

vineyridge
Apr. 1, 2007, 09:54 PM
Linny, I saw this quote in a story on the Bloodhorse site and misconstrued what the writer was trying to say.

It was a fourth World Cup night win for the Japanese
Thought perhaps they had an undercard of lesser races. Maybe "in history" is what is supposed to be conveyed.

willowoodstables
Apr. 2, 2007, 10:12 AM
WooHoo Invasor!!!

Is it my imagination or was the bold lad sorta under wraps at the first, then just a finger release and off he went? In the picture that Glimmer posted he hardly looks like he's breathing hard??

What a horse!

Kim

Glimmerglass
Apr. 2, 2007, 10:48 AM
In the picture that Glimmer posted he hardly looks like he's breathing hard?

I watched the race over again a few times, he truly was in full control of the race. Clearly when he looks into Premium Tap's eyes and the jets off Invasor was ready to pour it on and by no means hitting a wall with energy. It was widely observed in Dubai last week while exercising that he was an entirely different horse then last year. Bigger, stronger, bolder and more determined in his workouts.

He reaffirmed as to why he'd already been ranked the number one horse in the world in 2007 so far.

sporthorsefilly
Apr. 2, 2007, 03:37 PM
INVASOR, he is the BEST! But I wish they would retire him before he is injured. He is too nice a horse, and with his sire gone, it seems a good time to quit while you are ahead.

I remember Izvestia (1989?)...they wanted just that one last race. He never made that finish line, it was a terrible loss.

Glimmerglass
Apr. 2, 2007, 04:22 PM
Equidaily.com has noted a few articles in the Middle East press on the ride by Fernando Jara on Invasor.

I'm not too keen on the criticism leveled at Jara from Shaikh Hamdan (http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/sports/2007/April/sports_April60.xml&section=sports&col=). It was not like he was doing something silly in the saddle. He looked back to see if Discreet Cast was launching - not flashing a wave to fans. The replay shows it was no big deal and certainly not worth taking the jock to task over.

Perhaps I watched another race when this commentary is made regarding Jara's actions:
...[he] unnecessarily eased the horse once he went strike for strike with Premium Tap, otherwise he could have won more impressively.

More impressively? I'm sure Invasor could've stopped after the run and made drinks for everyone too. Come on what did they want 1 1/4 mi in 1:57 flat?

Barnfairy
Apr. 2, 2007, 04:38 PM
I'm not too keen on the criticism leveled at Jara from Shaikh Hamdan (http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/sports/2007/April/sports_April60.xml&section=sports&col=). It was not like he was doing something silly in the saddle. He looked back to see if Discreet Cast was launching - not flashing a wave to fans. The replay shows it was no big deal and certainly not worth taking the jock to task over.Agreed 100%. I think it only natural that Jara might have been wondering at the time "Where the heck is Discreet Cat?" and double checking to make sure DC wasn't in a blind spot.

Linny
Apr. 2, 2007, 05:46 PM
Linny, I saw this quote in a story on the Bloodhorse site and misconstrued what the writer was trying to say.

Thought perhaps they had an undercard of lesser races. Maybe "in history" is what is supposed to be conveyed.


The Asian shippers won 2 last year and another 2 this year. Now it makes sense to me.

ssuspicionxc
Apr. 5, 2007, 11:58 AM
to everyone talking about Sheikh Hamdans critcism of Jara it is rubbish. That article was written by an Indian journalist who misinterpret what Sheikh Hamdan said. The article itself circulated more than what was expected and the major magazines over here have agreed not to print it or give it any type of press because it is so far from the truth

Glimmerglass
Apr. 5, 2007, 12:10 PM
to everyone talking about Sheikh Hamdans critcism of Jara it is rubbish. That article was written by an Indian journalist who misinterpret what Sheikh Hamdan said. The article itself circulated more than what was expected and the major magazines over here have agreed not to print it or give it any type of press because it is so far from the truth

Not sure where "here" is for you, but to be accurate the one cited article was in the "local" press of UAE/Duabi.

Agreed the issue is largely moot as The Daily Racing Form for Apr 4th (http://www.drf.com/news/article/83751.html) cites the following:


Sheikh Hamdan not upset with Jara

Despite Invasor’s brilliant victory in the World Cup, two overseas newspapers quoted the colt’s owner, Sheikh Hamdan bin Rashid al-Maktoum, as being critical of jockey Fernando Jara’s ride. But McLaughlin said that is not the case.

One paper quoted Hamdan as being upset by Jara’s looking back at certain points in the race. A second paper quoted Hamdan as being upset with Jara for apparently easing up on Invasor, thus allowing Premium Tap an opportunity to come back at him in the stretch.

McLaughlin said Hamdan told Rick Nichols, the racing manager for Sheikh Hamdan’s Shadwell Stable, that he was misquoted and that he was not critical of Jara in any way.

“Sheikh Hamdan was [not] upset; he doesn’t even know where that came from,’’ McLaughlin said. “He was full of praise of Fernando’s ride and tickled to death for the great victory.”

(Asdie, The DRF failed to include the "not" as I did in brackets with Kiaran's remark)

It still seems a bit odd as either Hamdan did or did not make a remark of disliking the look back. If he didn't and is one of the chief rulers of the country, well you'd think he could get a retraction ;)

The 2007 race schedule for Invasor, all grade 1 races:

$400,000 Suburban at Belmont Park on June 30,
$500,000 Woodward at Saratoga on September 1 *
$5 million Breeders’ Cup Classic at Monmouth Park on Oct. 27.

*The Whitney on July 28 at Saratoga could be instead of the Woodward, if the Suburban turned out to be an easy race on Invasor.