So WHAT if I think that horse is ugly!?!! (caution: vent)

[EQHopeful]

I'm just really annoyed by people who get offended when I say 'said' horse is ugly or I just personally don't like it. Mind you, it is certainly not their personal horse. I just hate in when people sit on their high horse and claim every horse is beautiful and wonderful. This simply is not true. Some horses are just plain ugly and look like they should be pulling carts instead of jumping around a hunter course. And I have indeed riddend these specific 'special' horses, and I still don't like them, so it's not like my opinon is solely on looks. One girl proceeded to rant and rave at me about "why would you sell a horse thats willing to work all day for you? Just because you think it's ugly!?!" Ha, hardly.

These horses in particular are known to be total brats. One bucked her rider off consistently and has the nastiest attitude toward other horses. She's been known to honestly run backwards to kick another horse. The other is a total dick. He'll charge the grain bin w/ you on the lead, regardless of how many times you smack him on the neck to stop. He'll charge you in the paddock if you try to bring him in. He'll try to smash you into the side of the stall if you try to wrap his legs in the stall. And they're ugly to boot. They're also very lazy.

I'm sorry, but these are NOT the kind of horses I'd want to have in my barn. Ugly I can deal with to an extent if they're a saint, but if they have a nasty attitude too and would rather sleep than do their job, well, I don't like em.

If I had the $ to buy a horse, and found one that matched what I wanted but was ugly, I would so hold out for that beautiful horse, they're bound to come along. I want a horse that makes me smile w/ pride to look at its gorgeous face everday. Call me crazy!

Sorry, but life's too short to ride an ugly horse, lazy horse. Yep, that's my opinion, get over it.

I should also add that my opinion stems from the fact that I want to eventually breed sporthorses, and am therefore very particular about looks, temperment, and conformation in all horses that I come across. Call it vanity, whatever, but yes, the prettiest horses in the barn are bound to be my favorites.
rant over.

[Broberry]

I'm sorry that your friends give you a hard time about two horses whose looks apparently aren't the only thing going against them. However, I have to agree with your friends to an extent that ugly isn't the be all end all. Bad conformation might be one thing - because those horses probably have a harder time doing their job (depending on the fault, of course) and sometimes could be more easily injured.

I disagree that ugliness should deter you from a horse that, other from their looks, are perfect for what you intend to do with them, but that's a personal opinion. I mean, if you are looking for a horse to win on the A circuit in the Working Hunters, obviously looks are one of the criteria you look for, not just the ability to jump and a big stride and a good attitude, etc. However, for a packer to do x-rails? I'd take an ugly saint anyday!

Also, I think beauty is sometimes in the eye of the beholder. I will honestly say that the first thought I had when I saw my mare step off the truck was...oh my, she's ugly. I was dissapointed and a little crestfallen. However, after having her for a while I quickly realized that she is an amazing horse with tons of heart, talent, scope, and is wise beyond her years. Now I look at her and all I see is a gorgeous little mare. I think it's that now I see all her good qualities, that make her physical appearance seem less homely. I'd take her again in a heartbeat.

[Paragon]

So... are you ranting about ugly horses, wicked horses, or people who don't like that YOU don't like ugly horses?

[Need4speed]

Wow, I can tell you and I are going to get along GREAT:rolleyes: !!!! (that was total sarcasm by the way... if you didn't get it.

I'm going with how you started your post; all about appearance. Halfway through, you may have thought about how you sounded and backpedalled a bit with the way certain horses act, but in the end, you would pass up an "ugly" horse even if it was perfect in every other way.

My 6 yr old daughter has a horse. He has an oversized head, mountain whithers, swayed back, and a huge QH butt..... On our acreage, he is the most beautiful horse here. Why? He takes care of my little girl. He's honest, kind, good, worth his weight in diamonds. When he gets to old to carry even her around, he will retire here with the best feed and care available, and he will breath his last breath here.

I have ridden some gorgeous horses, conformation wise, head, head-set, colour, whatever. Some were real jerks.

Pretty is as pretty does.

Oh, here's another chestnut for you: If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything.

[Dazednconfused]

Your friends probably don't like it, because it's rude.

I have arabians. I know not everyone likes arabians and some folks find particular features of the breed to be less than attractive. That doesn't mean they have to tell me how ugly my horse is. It's not necessary, and quite frankly I really don't care. They can say nothing at all.

What if I said your horse was ugly, because it just wasn't my type of horse - I have yet to meet a horse owner that woudn't at least bristle at that. Remember, most people's animals are like children to them. You don't go up to a parent and tell them how ugly their child is, so why would you do it to a horse owner? I realize you're not doing it directly to the horse owner, but you still don't rant to other people about how ugly someone's kid is.

I much PREFER a beautiful horse. I think we all do - everything else (temperament, conformation, breed type, athletic ability, etc) being equal - I think everyone would pick the pretty one. That said, I have absolutely NO USE whatsoever for one with an ugly personality, and those who are innately mean are not worth the price of a bullet to shoot them with. It is only a matter of time before they hurt, kill, or maim someone, usually, and there is no reason to keep these kinds of horses around. As a groom, I truly appreciate those who don't have ugly personalities - the ones who you can wrap, lead, ride, groom, etc without a fuss. They make our jobs much, much easier :yes: After dealing with a few difficult (some bordering on dangerous) horses, it has made me really appreciate those who are well-behaved, no matter what they look like.

While I agree that some people are much too kind about horses sometimes - and think (or at least, say) they are all wonderful and pretty. But that doesn't really matter in the scheme of things. You'll still think the horse is ugly, the owner will still own the horse, and the world will continue to spin on its axis despite the fact you think the horse is ugly.

[Percheron X]

All horses are beautiful. I love them all just the way they are. Beauty comes from the soul..... It's in their eyes. It's in the way they move. It's the nicker they make for you when you walk into the barn. It's in their desire to let you into their lives and accept you without judging you for anything other than how much you love them. All horses are beautiful.

[Annetta]

Wow, the world according to you.

Beauty--and ugliness--is definitely in the eye of the beholder. What one person thinks is ugly, another person will see as handsome. Just because I like a really pretty old type Morgan like, for example, Waer's Don Juan--doesn't mean I'm going to be calling someone's warmbloods--which have an entirely different look--"ugly". Some people like the Arabians with the extreme dished faces--not what I go for at all but just because I don't like them doesn't mean I need to be going around proclaiming them as UGLY.

Some horses are just plain ugly and look like they should be pulling carts instead of jumping around a hunter course. Now I have no idea why you have just stereotyped cart horses as being ugly??? I have quite a number of "cart horses" and there isn't a one of them that is any where near ugly.

Sorry, you've just shown how much you don't know about horses!

[Louise]

Hmmmm, a first post that is meanspirited, and bound to get a reaction. Careful folks, we just might have a little troll on our hands.

[Coup De Des]

Needforspeed... unfortunately when you are 12 the world is ME ME ME. Which means your very valid and correct post is bound to fall on deaf ears.


Louise.. I'm also thinking troll. I've got my troll stick ready- howsabout the rest of ya'll?

[J Swan]

I don't have a troll stick - will a Kohlrabi stick do?



Louise.. I'm also thinking troll. I've got my troll stick ready- howsabout the rest of ya'll?


Personally - I think every animal in the world is beautiful.

[CrouchingCheese]

I have a hard time believing this person is 21....

[Nicker]

Hmmmm, a first post that is meanspirited, and bound to get a reaction. Careful folks, we just might have a little troll on our hands.

I agree...anyone else think trolls are ugly?

[Dalfan]

The other is a total dick. He'll charge the grain bin w/ you on the lead, regardless of how many times you smack him on the neck to stop. He'll charge you in the paddock if you try to bring him in. He'll try to smash you into the side of the stall if you try to wrap his legs in the stall. And they're ugly to boot.

Sounds like he doesn't respect you, or maybe he's reading your mind in regards to how you see/feel about him. Makes me wonder what he thinks of YOU!! :yes:

[**stellar**]

I certainly hope YOU aren't ugly, or people will pass you up despite you other qualities!

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...thank god there are people out there who can see past apperances even though YOU aren't one of them

[caffeinated]

So... how long before we find out a random houseguest logged onto here and posted that? Or that this was all just an experiment in social psychology? If we're going to have trolls, I want Sybils and houseguests, damnit!

[BeastieSlave]

Did someone actually ask you for your opinion - or did you just volunteer it? That might have a lot to do with how it was received :rolleyes: What did you prove by announcing that the horses are ugly? So what if they are?! Will anything change because of your opinion (other than the opinion of you held by whoever got to hear your announcement)?

You might try to keep in mind that "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything".

[ChocoMare]

When my personal opinion has determined a horse to be "ugly" (bad conformation, lumpy head, whatever), I've usually found out that he/she was a Swan in Disguise. They usually have the sweetest personality, will try their ugly-little hearts out and often make the best schoolies.

Just like people: God don't make no junk. ;)

[monday]

My most favorite horse growing up and taken lessons once a week was a poorly put together flea bitten grey with a big head. I loved that horse to death. He didn't really jump over 2 ft, but he took me through WTC to crossrails, and I still have pictures of him in my room.

Pretty is as pretty does indeed.

[Renn/aissance]

If she's 21, why is she an equitation hopeful? She's already aged out.

I tried one of those ugly horses. He looked like a cross between an Appaloosa, a donkey, a Percheron, and a French rat. A serious two-bagger. Schooled to death on the flat- I picked up the rein for a colleted trot and he went into near-piaffe. Ugly as he was, I would have bought him if he had had ground manners.

I actually think that ugly horses are more likely to have good manners than attractive ones... the pretty ones tend to be able to get away with more based on their looks. If you've got an ugly pony, it had better have perfect manners as something to redeem it.

No matter how unattractive a horse may be, if I like them, I usually end up thinking they're cute.

[nightsong]

All horses are beautiful. I love them all just the way they are. Beauty comes from the soul..... It's in their eyes. It's in the way they move. It's the nicker they make for you when you walk into the barn. It's in their desire to let you into their lives and accept you without judging you for anything other than how much you love them. All horses are beautiful.

What a nice post!!!

[kcmel]

If she's 21, why is she an equitation hopeful? She's already aged out.

Maybe she doesn't realize it. (I'd rather be ugly than dumb!:lol: :lol: ).

[Chevalnoir]

Well, I prefer a pretty horse over an ugly one myself, all else being equal. As far as bad behaviour in a horse - that tells a lot more about the lack of handling and training skills of the humans in that horse's life than about the horse itself.

But I will say that I will take the ugliest, most badly behaved horse on the face of the earth over a snotty, stuck up, obnoxious human any day of the week. You can make most any horse a little better with a bit of time and effort.

Humans - not so much.

[EqTrainer]

Every horse is beautiful when he is on the aids.

[equusrocks]

Awwww, my favorite "first" horse was an ugly old QH mare. But boy was she sweet, and a smooth ride too. The ugly ones are more endearing, I think.

[MeredithTX]

This post makes me think about a lesson horse at my old barn. He was a tall chestnut gelding, not always sound, and a conformation disaster. Crooked legs, bad feet, ewe neck, and a big clunky head were some of the first things you saw. However, he was absolutely beautiful to all the people he taught to ride and all the teachers who relied on him to take care of his riders. He was the kind of sainted lesson horse who loved to take adult ammies through a three foot course, patiently compensating for any bad distances or less than perfect corners. He instilled confidence in his riders because he was trustworthy and would even turn right around to carry a child carefully through a round of crossrails, never changing his pace or doing anything that might unseat them. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and nothing makes that more true than horses.

[citydog]

The other is a total dick. He'll charge the grain bin w/ you on the lead, regardless of how many times you smack him on the neck to stop.

What *else* have you tried besides smacking him on the neck? If it's never stopped him before, why do you keep doing it?

Troll or not, this (human doing the same ineffective thing over and over and then blaming the horse for being "stupid" or a "dick"--how lovely) pisses me off to no end.

[Moesha]

Ugliness is on the inside, not on the outside. Some on the most sinister human beings were physically beautiful...If these horses were treated as ugly cast offs, no wonder their attitudes are sour.

"The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched - they must be felt with the heart." -
-- Helen Keller


"Everything has its beauty but not everyone sees it." -
-- Confucius

[17handtb]

J. Swan, I heartily concur!

I also got the Troll Vibe reading the post. I kept waiting for the satire to reveal itself...but it never did.





Personally - I think every animal in the world is beautiful.

[King's Ransom]

Well, the tone of the OP is certainly offensive ... but I have to admit that I am also a sucker for handsome.

However, beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. I fell for King the first moment I saw him. For some reason, he just was the most beautiful horse -- to me. I loved his face, his build, the way he moved. Everything about him. And sometimes when I would ask someone else to ride him, he would just take my breath away with how gorgeous he was. And I would tell him, "Oh, if I just saw you for the first time today, I would fall in love all over again!"

He is 25 years old now, and I still get that same feeling when I see him out in the pasture.

Funny thing, though. I have not met any other horsey people who agree with me. They all roll their eyes when I say, "Isn't he the most gorgeous thing you ever saw?" Now, I don't think anyone would say he was ugly (especially not around me!!!), but somehow I don't think EVERYone else appreciates his obvious Hollywood good looks! :lol:

[ButterflyIris]

I think the OP should create & sell a bumper sticker:
"Life is too short too ride ugly horses."

I bet they would sell well here and at your local Nordstrom's and/or Bloomingdale's.
(nothing about this message is tounge in cheek)

[harvestmoon]

What a treat this OP is. :rolleyes: Oh, sure, all "ugly" horses are mean and nasty, yep, and all the lookers are just perfect angels. Perhaps in your dreams. Not to mention that beauty IS in the eye of the beholder. Chill and find some manners. Of course people are going to bristle when you say their horse (or even a horse they know) is ugly.

But, this is probably just a troll, so carry on. :D

[Need4speed]

Whether a troll, or a mean-spirited person, the true colours of CoTH have come out. This thread is turning into a memory of all the BEAUTIFUl ugly horses that we have rode or had.

YAY fellow posters!!! :)

I'd love to hear about more of your horsey loves.

[EQHopeful]

Well, you guys can tout along that every horse is physically beautiful, but it's just not true. Yes, indeed they might be total saints and wonderful mounts mentally, but that doesn't change the outward appearance. Would you really want to breed these animals? My opinon on said horses isn't ONLY their looks, but their sour personalities to match and the fact that they don't want to do their job. I can't stand a horse w/ poor ground manners. My first impression on any horse is looks...you can't know them inside out the first time. I like horses that represent what I would be personally willing to own and breed. Who strives to breed poorly conformed nasty horses???

As for the grain bin rushing gelding, what would you suggest would fix his problem? I'm so serious that he would charge that thing like a freight train w/ NO other thought or care in his head, w/ you like a dead weight on the lead hoopin and hollerin made zero difference. The problem was 'solved' by walking on the side closest to the bin with a crop in hand and/or simply avoiding the grain bin aisles altogether. Near the end, he 'kinda' got the message, but I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. His behavior was also potentially dangerous, the floors are smooth cement, he easily could slip and injure both himself and his handler.

And yes, there are plenty of pretty horses w/ nasty attitudes as well.

I firmly believe that everyone has the right to their own opinion. You may LOVE this horse, I seriously don't.

[appaloosalady]

My 12 yr old daughter has a large pony who could rank among the physically ugliest horses I have ever seen. She is also one of the horses that will have a home here until she crosses the bridge. She is ugly, 3 legged sound part of the time, ornary, and marish ... and I love her. She has given my daughter her confidence back after having a "beautiful" pony ruin it. She tries her heart out and asks for nothing in return. She is beautiful in my daughter's eyes, therefore she is priceless in mine.

[harvestmoon]

Well, you guys can tout along that every horse is physically beautiful, but it's just not true.

That's your opinion and view. But, for other people, yes, it very well maybe true.

[Dalfan]

As for the grain bin rushing gelding, what would you suggest would fix his problem? I'm so serious that he would charge that thing like a freight train w/ NO other thought or care in his head, w/ you like a dead weight on the lead hoopin and hollerin made zero difference

Sounds like you are not very experienced in horse handling if you can't figure this out. He sees you as inconsequential and not deserving of respect. How appropriate. Perhaps some Parelli ground-training would do you some good. :yes:

[equusrocks]

:lol:

I don't think anyone strives to breed ugly horses. It just happens. Some people don't know, some people don't care, and some horses just come out ugly anyhow. If you could have SEEN my guy when he was two...:eek: *I* think he's pretty. And his parents were truly NICE horses. He just came out with a narrower chest and toes out a bit. Not something people wanted to pay 5K for, so I paid $500. Best $500 I've ever spent, a saint with kids, but enough spunk with the adults to be fun. Who could ask for more???

Even ugly horses need Looooove.

And ground manners. I think said geldings grain bin rushing probably isn't a result of his ugliness, but maybe a result of a lack of time spent on his ugly butt to get him to appreciate people space and have decent manners??? Or I could be wrong...;)

[EQHopeful]

Sounds like you are not very experienced in horse handling if you can't figure this out. Perhaps some Parelli ground-training would do you some good. :yes:

well, then share your expertise!!

[alphaxi]

my bf's horse has a head larger than my whole body. it is so goofy looking.

but the horse (and my bf) are winning intermediates all over the place and going to 2 stars.

I'LL TAKE HIM!!! BIG HEAD OR NOT!!!!

[amastrike]

Horses can certainly be ugly in appearance (there's one at my stable who truly is ugly--but he's so ugly he's cute). However, I'd much rather have a horse who looks ugly than have one who has an ugly disposition. Looks don't matter all that much.

[3fatponies]

Not to be equally unkind, or to infer this is the case with the OP, but most people I know who focus on the issue of appearance above all others are either not very good riders or actual pros. I think it's 1% pro and 99% wannabes as far as the split--most non-pro people who think they are serious competitive riders are not living up to the image they crave, and no horse, beauty or not, is going to change that. I see a lot of people who can barely stay on ugly ole Dobbin, but will only buy the Black Stallion because of what they believe it will say about them and their skills. Personally, I think it says "hey, I am a joke, so feel free to laugh," but then again, maybe I am just plain mean. :winkgrin:
I speak for the dabblers when I say, "trust me, there isn't going to be an Olympics for you or me, so admit it and just enjoy what you can accomplish!!" :lol:

[BoysNightOut]

As for the grain bin rushing gelding, what would you suggest would fix his problem? I'm so serious that he would charge that thing like a freight train w/ NO other thought or care in his head, w/ you like a dead weight on the lead hoopin and hollerin made zero difference

It's called basic ground work. Do some in-hand exercises. Make the horse march in a walk next to you. Make him stop when you stop. Make him back up when tell him to back up. Make him move off to the side when you touch his side to move over. Do this daily. If he intrudes on your space, give him holy hell for it then be done with it. Start exercise over again.

The grain bins aren't the problem....the horse's lack of simple ground manners and respect of your space is. You have to fix that before you can fix the grain bin situation.

Oh, and I know all this because my horse was the same way. He was a lesson horse and I watched many people feebley just "slap his neck" and go "Viiiiinie, stop it!" when he dove for the grain buckets. And he was fierce, he had no respect for people and would knock you over to get to that grain.

Ya know what I did when he tried that crap with me? I made him regret ever living. He got that chain shanked so hard across his nose. He got smacked big time by the crop I held. I backed him up for what seemed like miles and yelled at the top of my lungs. I made him wish he had never set his nose near that feed bin. He wanted to invade my space? Well, I just invaded his.

And ya know what? He never tried diving for feed buckets with me ever again after about 2-3 times of having a "come to god" moment.

As for this whole "ugly" kick you are on. Yeah their are some horses out there who aren't the prettiest. But your post was pretty much the most superficial thing I've read yet today. Good riddance. Yes, of course you don't want to breed for poor confo. But the fact that you would pass on a horse that was perfect for you all b'c it was "ugly" just shows how shallow you are. Good thing I'm not like you. My horse has a wimpy tail, small forelock, high withers, and weird white hairs on him tummy. But he is the perfect horse for me and I think he's downright handsome, even if others don't.

Seriously, that little "princess" attitude you hold is what gives the rest of us rider's a bad rep for being snobby.

And btw. Prolly my most favorite horse in this world was a 30 something swayed back Palomino mare named Sugar. If you saw her back in the day, you'd prolly turn your nose up and dismiss her as ugly. But she was beautiful with her amazing color, and a heart of gold that packed my 8 year old butt at the time around that ring safely.

[Sakura]

I would take a sound, sane ugly horse with a few quirks over a beautiful, lame or aloof animal any day... oh wait I already have two like that :p.

[Moesha]

So why are you telling people here about it? State your opinions to your friends or whoever has an issue with your views? You are obviously not being supported in your views, here. You are not interested in trying the techniques so gracioussly offered to fix certain problems? So buy and work with horses you like...if you are paying the bills, own the farm, etc...do as you please?

[Classic Melody]

I was just thinking the other day about seeing my OTTB for the first time. He was gangly, unfit, and plain, and had a long, tapered giraffe head with narrow-set ears. At the time I did not think he was attractive, but I bought him for his forgiving personality. It didn't help when he banged his head a few months later and developed permanent bumps on the bridge of his nose. You'd lunge him and he literally looked like a cartoon horse - all angles and no coordination.

Now, a year later, he's muscled up and has a rich, slick seal brown coat, and I see his big, soft eye and I think he's stunning. He even looks fancy now in the superficial sense. I get compliments on him. That never happened before.

To the OP, if you thought you could come on a horse board and start b*tching about ugly horses and get away with it, you've got a good lesson coming.

[philosoraptor]

This isn't a vent, it's breed bashing & breed snobbery. You've written off a lot of good horses just because they don't meet your preconcieved notion of "beauty". You're the one losing out, not other people.

You say you breed sport horses, but guess what sporthorses are? Do you know the roots of horses like friesians and many of the European warmblood breeds? And you write "Some horses.. look like they should be pulling carts instead of jumping around a hunter course" Guess what those sport horse parents did for a living?

Did nobody tell you what a "sport horse" was made of? Maybe Sport Horses evolved on their own, a seperate species, created only from zebras and pixie dust? You're too funny!

Bad ground manners have nothing to do with a horse being "ugly" or "beautiful". It comes from people not knowing how to handle the horse. Let a horse get away with crap, and of course he'll become a "brat". Maybe if you're being shoved around by some horses, you might want to take lessons with a trainer so you can learn how to handle horses better? I have a parelli book you can borrow. :lol:

[cosmos mom]

Wait...3 pages later and I'm still reeling from...did she call a horse "a total dick"? :lol: Well, my dear, you are a petite flower!

[Wayside]

Now I have no idea why you have just stereotyped cart horses as being ugly??? I have quite a number of "cart horses" and there isn't a one of them that is any where near ugly.



This bit gave me quite the chuckle. I've owned both pretty horses and ugly ones, by my own reckoning. One of the prettiest is my current cart horse. And I had a TB who has since passed who ranked pretty high on the ugly stick. Seriously, I heard snickers before tacking up at shows more than once, and he was such a blotchy faded mud-brown the vet and I stood and scratched our heads while filling out his health certificate, unsure of what to write for "color". That TB won me numerous champion ribbons in the hunter ring, and was a fantastic ride. Thank goodness he was ugly so I could afford him ;)

[EQHopeful]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You guys obviously don't read for comprehension. Its amusing. Bashing me for not liking these particular horse 'simply becuz I think they're ugly'.

You're failing to comprehend that I don't like them becuz their ugly, have nasty attitudes, and would rather sleep than do their job one measly hour a day. The last two points only makes their physical ugliness shine through.

As for the comments from the one poster who's gelding had a similar grain bin problem, the horse did all those 'ground manner' things you listed off. I made sure of that. And I reprimanded him as best I could considering he is not my personal horse, just a schoolie. Some people don't take kindly to bashing horses on the nose w/ a chain shank, even though they very well deserve it for things like this. If he had been my own horse, worse would have been done to him, but he wasn't, so I felt there were certian limitations to how severly he could be reprimanded. On the upside, I'm sure it was funny as hell to watch.

And as for passing up the ugly horse who matched everything I wanted, he/she would be passed up because a beautiful horse w/ the same capabilies or better is bound to come along...there are too many horses out there for it not to happen. Its my money, I want to spend it on a beautiful horse, sorry.

[Paragon]

Don't you guys get it? The OP came here to grace us all with her amazing opinion, and we're supposed to not only agree, but worship that opinion!

You see, in threads like this, where the OP is decrying adamantly that she's allowed to have her own opinion, it's just not acceptable for others to have opinions, too.

Second chapter of your Message Boards 101 textbook.

:lol: :D

Sorry, OP, but your first message was not only ridiculous, it was unclear. You can insult our reading comprehension all you want, but perhaps you ought to have a look at your own coherence. Seems to me that I asked in the third post what, exactly, your beef was, because you didn't make it clear. Bummer.

[Moesha]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You guys obviously don't read for comprehension. Its amusing. Bashing me for not liking these particular horse 'simply becuz I think they're ugly'.

You're failing to comprehend that I don't like them becuz their ugly, have nasty attitudes, and would rather sleep than do their job one measly hour a day. The last two points only makes their physical ugliness shine through.

As for the comments from the one poster who's gelding had a similar grain bin problem, the horse did all those 'ground manner' things you listed off. I made sure of that. And I reprimanded him as best I could considering he is not my personal horse, just a schoolie. Some people don't take kindly to bashing horses on the nose w/ a chain shank, even though they very well deserve it for things like this. If he had been my own horse, worse would have been done to him, but he wasn't, so I felt there were certian limitations to how severly he could be reprimanded. On the upside, I'm sure it was funny as hell to watch.

And as for passing up the ugly horse who matched everything I wanted, he/she would be passed up because a beautiful horse w/ the same capabilies or better is bound to come along...there are too many horses out there for it not to happen. Its my money, I want to spend it on a beautiful horse, sorry.


If the horse is a schoolie and not yours then are you saying you do not own the horse? If so and you and a "professional" then you discipline the behavior in an appropriate way and keep your criticism of the horse to a professional and respectful level.

Sorry but anyone "bashing" a horse with any piece of equipment, needs psychological help.

[3fatponies]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You guys obviously don't read for comprehension. Its amusing. Bashing me for not liking these particular horse 'simply becuz I think they're ugly'.


Glad we are amusing you. This kind of interaction will stand you in good stead as you mature, since you may spend most of your time online seeking out friends if these posts are any indication of how you behave. Inciting a riot and then complaining you got bumped is not the kind of behavior that will leave you with a full dance-card, that is for sure. ;)

Laugh on, little one. The coolest thing about maturity is that you know you have reached it when you finally admit that, contrary to what you thought, you really don't know much about much. If you think you do, then wait, because you still have some growing up to do. :winkgrin:

[Anselcat]

It's easy for someone to talk about what they are going to buy, what is unacceptable to them, how high their standards are .... when they don't actually own a horse or have the money to buy one!

And OP wants to go into the breeding business? Good luck with the business part of that!

But yes, of course OP is entitled to an opinion.

[Instant Karma]

Maybe they aren't disliking you because you say horses are ugly, maybe they are disliking you because you sound like an asshole.

Just a thought.

[Instant Karma]

Ohhh yeah and on that note, I hope you look like Heidi Klum or else you certainly should not breed and in fact, you should go jump off a cliff somewhere.

Because hey, life is too short to deal with people who aren't perfect!

[kelo]

I just saw a horse this weekend in a jumper class that had a head like a trash can attached to a neck like a garden hose. It was one of those "UGH!"-ly horses, if you know what I mean.

I was kind of smiling to myself at that horse's oversized head as I watched him head for the first fence. And then I watched him tote his rider around that jump course, jumping clean and jumping fast. Then he did it again in the jump-off. And when I saw that catty little horse use the giant brain enclosed in his trash-can head to save himself and his rider from a horrible spot she put him in, I thought to myself, I would pay a LOT of money to be able to ride a horse like that. Because a few horses earlier, I watched a gorgeous adonis of a horse dump his rider in the dirt after flat-refusing the spot she put HIM in. Ouch.

The moral of this story is beauty is as beauty does, hearts of gold can rarely be seen upon first glance, and dirt hurts.

[Feenikks]

Wow, I can tell you and I are going to get along GREAT:rolleyes: !!!! (that was total sarcasm by the way... if you didn't get it.


My 6 yr old daughter has a horse. He has an oversized head, mountain whithers, swayed back, and a huge QH butt..... On our acreage, he is the most beautiful horse here. Why? He takes care of my little girl. He's honest, kind, good, worth his weight in diamonds. When he gets to old to carry even her around, he will retire here with the best feed and care available, and he will breath his last breath here.

.

Thank you! Sure there are som ugly horses ... but, there are also ugly people ;)

[Moesha]

Maybe they aren't disliking you because you say horses are ugly, maybe they are disliking you because you sound like an asshole.

Just a thought.


Instant Karma....You win quote of the year with that one!

[MeredithTX]

I'd be glad to take a couple of "ugly cart horses" like these!

http://www.selwoodpark.com/desperado/desperado_header.jpg
http://www.selwoodpark.com/millenium/millenium_header.jpg

[EQHopeful]

Don't you guys get it? The OP came here to grace us all with her amazing opinion, and we're supposed to not only agree, but worship that opinion!

You see, in threads like this, where the OP is decrying adamantly that she's allowed to have her own opinion, it's just not acceptable for others to have opinions, too.

Second chapter of your Message Boards 101 textbook.

:lol: :D

Sorry, OP, but your first message was not only ridiculous, it was unclear. You can insult our reading comprehension all you want, but perhaps you ought to have a look at your own coherence. Seems to me that I asked in the third post what, exactly, your beef was, because you didn't make it clear. Bummer.

Sorry, not true. What originally offended me was how offended the other person got. Everyone does have the right to their own opinion. I'm perfectly willing to agree to disagree. If I don't share your opinion, that gives you no cause to rant and rave about it to me. Just say, 'Ok' or 'whatever'.

[ElonGrad1997]

Maybe the OP needs to surround themself with beautiful horses to distract from the otherwise ugly view.

[EQHopeful]

I'd be glad to take a couple of "ugly cart horses" like these!

http://www.selwoodpark.com/desperado/desperado_header.jpg
http://www.selwoodpark.com/millenium/millenium_header.jpg

These horses are hardly ugly.

[MES]

OK, whatever.


Gosh, I feel . . like . . . so grownup now!

[EQHopeful]

well , like gosh, thats like so good for you!!

[3fatponies]

Popcorn, anyone? No? How about a stiff drink?? :winkgrin:

[J Swan]

Hmmmm - methinks this person represents what is wrong in the horse industry. I hoping she sees the error of her ways and takes up golf.

I wonder what someone like Jimmy Wofford or Denny Emerson would think of such a person? I daresay she wouldn't be welcome as a working student, that's for sure.

My dear, of course you are entitled to your opinion.

But I agree with the other poster who commented that the horses may not like you because you are an a**hole. They're not stupid animals.

Nothing in nature is ugly.



:lol: :lol: :lol:

You guys obviously don't read for comprehension. Its amusing. Bashing me for not liking these particular horse 'simply becuz I think they're ugly'.

You're failing to comprehend that I don't like them becuz their ugly, have nasty attitudes, and would rather sleep than do their job one measly hour a day. The last two points only makes their physical ugliness shine through.

As for the comments from the one poster who's gelding had a similar grain bin problem, the horse did all those 'ground manner' things you listed off. I made sure of that. And I reprimanded him as best I could considering he is not my personal horse, just a schoolie. Some people don't take kindly to bashing horses on the nose w/ a chain shank, even though they very well deserve it for things like this. If he had been my own horse, worse would have been done to him, but he wasn't, so I felt there were certian limitations to how severly he could be reprimanded. On the upside, I'm sure it was funny as hell to watch.

And as for passing up the ugly horse who matched everything I wanted, he/she would be passed up because a beautiful horse w/ the same capabilies or better is bound to come along...there are too many horses out there for it not to happen. Its my money, I want to spend it on a beautiful horse, sorry.

[Heinz 57]

Q: Why are you dealing with an ugly schoolie?
Q: Why, if you are having PROBLEMS with said ugly schoolie, are you not seeking the advice and/or guidance of the professional in charge of the schoolie?
Q: Do you have your own horse?
Q: What type of sporthorse do you plan on breeding? Almost every breed has "sporthorses". There are Morgan Sporthorses, Appaloosa Sporthorses, Andalusian Sporthorses, it goes on and on. Lets not even get in to sport ponies.
Q: Given the choice, would you rather sleep or work, if it still meant you got fed, watered, and let out to play? It is important that you understand that horses don't think like humans and just because the horse makes you work harder to get what you want in terms of work does not mean the horse is making the "choice" to sleep rather than work for your personal hour.

It is also important that you learn the skills *redirect* the horse's attention. Think of it this way: when riding a horse that is spooky at one corner, the end goal is to maintain the horse's focus on YOU while going past the distracting area/object. Same goes for riding a horse over a scary fence. You need to redirect the horse's attention back to YOU, rather than wait for the misbehavior (sometimes this is impossible, and the misbehavior still occurs). At that point you need to find a way to correct the horse quickly and fairly.

You're free to only buy pretty horses. In my old barn, there was a 28 year old schoolmaster that had been a very successful hunter in his day - won all over the west coast for many years. Is he still pretty? Well, he's still a chestnut with three socks, but he looks his age. He looks quite a bit like a dinosaur, actually. He's not "pretty" by your standards, but I'll be damned if he wasn't the most gorgeous thing when I took him out for a ride this spring. He hadn't been ridden in ages, and we went out in the field for a hack. He was absolutely on top of the world - had that field been a show ring, he still would've cleaned the place out. Talent is talent, even when the "pretty" goes away as they age. He's got a long, scrawny neck, big withers and a long back, his tail is scraggly, mane is long, and he's over at the knees. I've seen pictures and this old man was a GORGEOUS horse in his day. He would still win the hack.

And most importantly: Why in the dear world are you calling a horse a dick?

haha. Why is MES the one that has to say "ok, whatever." Why can't YOU be the one to say it?

[Moesha]

If you are going to insult people or animals(which calling a horse ugly is doing) ....and feel that it is ok to make comments that you have to know will upset people, then you should give people the same grace to be tired of people making superficial and rude comments in regards to how they view your behavior?

[equusrocks]

Popcorn, anyone? No? How about a stiff drink?? :winkgrin:


I've been wanting a margarita ALL WEEK...well, since my "week" has carried over from last week, or the week before...or well, I just need a weekend feeling. Can it be today?? Salt, too, please. :yes:

[cosmos mom]

Monty Python, anyone? A shrubbery, perhaps?

"Always look on the bright side of life..."

[Dalfan]

and would rather sleep than do their job one measly hour a day.

This statement leads me to believe that not only does "the ugly one" disrespect you on the ground, but also under saddle as well. Not forward, non-bending, etc, etc. Amazing how horses put people in their place, isn't it?Perhaps that is the source of your frustration, hmmm?

If I don't share your opinion, that gives you no cause to rant and rave about it to me. Just say, 'Ok' or 'whatever'

Perhaps you should have done this after voicing your opinion to your offended "friend" instead of coming on here with your nonsense.

[EqTrainer]

I've been wanting a margarita ALL WEEK...well, since my "week" has carried over from last week, or the week before...or well, I just need a weekend feeling. Can it be today?? Salt, too, please. :yes:

It is always 5:00 somewhere!

[Moesha]

How aboue just being grateful you get to work around horses at all?

[skrgirl]

Our farm has the market on ugly horses. But they are the most saintly well behaved horses. Ill tell people they are ugly. But they do their job and they do it well. My drop dead gorgeous, take your breath away, gelding is a crazy hot headed thing who finds it fun to plan out ways to get around work and to find random things to be deathly afraid of.

Pretty is as pretty does.

But you do have the right to your opinion.

[fabulousfred]

Can we say...shallow????!!!! I hope your kids are or will be (depending on your circumstances) are not ugly..god help them...:eek:

[Mozart]

Life is too short to feed trolls. If the OP is serious...well...in the words of the rock band the Northern Pikes.."She ain't pretty she just looks that way"

[BoysNightOut]

As for the comments from the one poster who's gelding had a similar grain bin problem, the horse did all those 'ground manner' things you listed off. I made sure of that. And I reprimanded him as best I could considering he is not my personal horse, just a schoolie. Some people don't take kindly to bashing horses on the nose w/ a chain shank, even though they very well deserve it for things like this. If he had been my own horse, worse would have been done to him, but he wasn't, so I felt there were certian limitations to how severly he could be reprimanded. On the upside, I'm sure it was funny as hell to watch.

Well then let the owner of that horse deal with leading it past grain bins. I didn't take kindly to what I had to do with Vinnie (He wasn't even my horse then, he belonged to my former college!), but if a 1200lb animal drags me and puts me in danger, then I will do whatever I have to do to protect myself. I refuse to have a disclocated shoulder (which I saw another lesson horse to do another student) because of how the owner might react to my punishment. If Vinnie (who I now own) ever dragged somebody like the way he used to do now, I would have no problem with them "bashing" his nose with a shank (which, isn't as bad as you make it sound, my horse's nose looked perfectly normal afterwards and the shank is never directly across his nose).

If the owner of said horse has an issue with how you punish a horse (especially for something that dangerous), then let them worry about leading him. Tell them you will not take this horse out of his stall because of his bad behavior. Because all you are doing is letting the horse get away with this. And as long as you do that, he will only keep doing it and therefore can share part of the blame.

[abrant]

The more time I spend around the racetrack the less inclined I am to be instantly impressed with a beautiful horse. They're pretty when they're fast :)

But, I think the OP is going through the time in your life when you realize that just because you love horses doesn't mean you love every horse. :yes:

We have one in or program that I hate :mad: he's 17h++ and a hyper-freak. I was unloading him off the trailer yesterday and he very calmly and deliberately broke the halter, broke the slant in the trailer and took off across the backside. Not the first time he's done that. He is the living reason why I stock extra halters and trailer ties in my trailer. I'm not going to insult anything about his looks. I'm not going to make fun of anyone who likes him. But if I could "delete one horse from the planet" he would be my choice :lol: And yes, I call him names on occassion. But "dick" would be the 'child-friendly' version of what I call him :winkgrin:.

(Off hand - I once commented to my boss that this horse seemed like the type that was easier to ride than handle on the ground. He looked me right in the eye and said "never ride him." lol)

I guess if you're only going to be in contact with a handful of horses in your life, you should get what makes you happy. But when you're a professional, you learn to like what you got :) If you spend all your time uptight thinking about what you don't like... you never get to fully explore the things you do.

And also, if you're a real professional rider/trainer (I'm a farm manager, I just feed them ;) ) you'll miss out on some really spectacular horses. The aforementioned horse is a heck*of*a*runner he is absolutely capable of channeling is evil into performance. As a professional rider/trainer you can't afford to pass up a talented animal like that because you can't stand their personality.

~Adrienne

[goeslikestink]

absolutely dalfan


let me tell you something oh wise perosn of 21

attitude breeds attitude dont think that when you on said horses back he dont pick up on your attitude because it will

they will not respect anyone who doesnt respect them
to ask a horse whilse riding in a correct and polite manner
if they are taking you towards the fed bins or exit for exsample
then you simple arnt in control of a school horse and your listening skills by the given trainer arnt be adhere to -- on to the horse ---

no horse will respect someone with an attitude and no one person will

as to the pretty nice looking horses that you state you might have one day
if you cant manage a schooly then how the heck are you going to manage a pretty horse as those sporthorses are bred to do a sport
of a chosen dispaline and my god they are fit --- fast fizzy and tempremental -

so going back to the good old cob as thats what i think your are talking about

the cob be it full blown draft as in shire suffolk punch perheron or clydsdale --
or smaller verssion irish draft welsh cob gypsy vanner type

those horses have a high repour for waht they are what they did and what they do --

dont ever disrespect the horse for the horse doesnt matter want type or breed it is they have worked all there lives thoghout history in wars all types of wars and ploughed fields to bring us where we are in our lives today---

attitude -- you need to change yours towards THE HORSE
and respect those that teach you
21 with that attitude life will awlayd bite you in your arse

[murphyluv]

My horse is definitely not what some would call beautiful, but I love him just the same. To my mortification, he was the first horse in 9 years to escape barn and head towards the neighbors to eat grass, and would probably get away with murder if I let him. But he is a sweetheart, and just so darn cute. He is very forgiving of me and loves to cuddle. Not to sound cheesy, but I think he's beautiful b/c of that.
Even if a horse is what is considered "ugly" I think they're adorable and cute b/c of their personalities. If there were no ugly horses, people wouldn't be able to afford those cheaper versions that pack children and students around with their big hearts.
People get so caught up on big beautiful horses they can't seem to discipline them. Kind of a dead give away that the most groomed beautiful horse in the barn is probably going to be the most pushy one. Not always, but it seems to be somewhat of a pattern...
I agree with a previous post, I hope the OP's children are gorgeous, she might pass them up for a better model!

[archieflies]

Can we say...shallow????!!!!

You know what? I think someone watched too much "The Bachelor" last night and decided to model their life (or their internet alter ego) after a certain "Socialite" from Houston. Does "Eq Hopeful" go artound wearing a tiara all the time???????? Are you just upset because you found out that the horse didn't really want a *real* princess?

[Appassionato]

Sorry, not true. What originally offended me was how offended the other person got. Everyone does have the right to their own opinion. I'm perfectly willing to agree to disagree. If I don't share your opinion, that gives you no cause to rant and rave about it to me. Just say, 'Ok' or 'whatever'.

So that's why you're here? To say ok or whatever?

I think my horse is beautiful. Others may not. So be it. Really doesn't matter. A lot of horses are special to someone, and don't have to be special to me. Like my horse doesn't have to be special to others.

A trainer I once worked for, one of her FEI horses, an appendix QH who no kiddin', looked like a kid's drawing. Standing in the stall or paddock, you wouldn't believe he could do what he did in the ring. But I mean to tell you, he was gorgeous in the ring.

I too have seen the "pretty is as pretty does" or whatever. One of them I rode often for the owner, he canters on his terms, not the owner's. Thoroughly checked by vets, nothing wrong. He was just a pisspot.

Honestly, I've seen more "ugly horses", or rather "unsuitable for the owner's discipline of choice" do more for their owners than the pretty ones. And that's me having a jerk moment and being so judgemental.

[Sdhaurmsmom]

...must take one to know one.:lol::winkgrin::lol:

[Dalfan]

Maybe we've been duped. Maybe she got the reaction she really wanted. How smart could one really be to come on a horse BB and post something like that. Come on! You don't have to be the brightest bulb in the pack to predict the reaction she got. All intentional, IMHO.

[AstonMartin]

I find some horses more attractive than others.

However, that being said, beauty comes from what they are able to do, the heart they put into what they do, and the character they have.

Give me a hard-up looking horse with a puppy dog personality any day over that gorgeous WB with a cranky attitude.

For me I find it hard to come to love a horse that gives you nothing with their personality no matter how great their looks are. However, that horse that initially may be 'ugly' but who loves and hugs and tries and goes for you is completely loveable. You just want to throw yourself down for them.....so I guess I find it hard to believe what you say.

Of course, each to their own.....

[archieflies]

Maybe we've been duped. Maybe she got the reaction she really wanted. How smart could one really be to come on a horse BB and post something like that. Come on! You don't have to be the brightest bulb in the pack to predict the reaction she got. All intentional, IMHO.

Haha... I've often thought it would be fun to create an alter (just call me Beltex, Dallas Crown, something like that) and post on here as a manager from a slaughter house looking for horse advice.... just to see what happened. There's limitless possibilities for those with a truly evil mind, and there's endless COTHers ready to make it worthwhile.

[chism]

Any chance you were in one of the popular cliques or the prom queen in high school? Not everyone has those photogenic genes, but as a race we still manage to turn out a lot of quality individuals...go figure! I know some of the replies have bothered you but your post says a lot about you whether or not you want to admit it.
Regarding the unwanted behavior...A poorly behaved horse is that way NOT because of his looks. It's because of his handling, health & environment. I manage a 26 stall barn. If any of those horses treated me in a disrespectful fashion I would have no problem straightening them out in a hurry, no matter if they're boarder's horses or schoolies. If you're not part of the solution...you're part of the problem.
Pretty is as pretty does - I have two appy ponies for my girls. Neither one of them would ever win a beauty contest. I make jokes that they're so ugly, they're cute. They're worth their weight in gold, they do their jobs, take care of my kids....I tried some beautiful fancy ponies when I was looking. They were terribly behaved and untrustworthy for a child. Should I should have gone for style over substance? I've reached a point in my life where external appearances are WAY less important than the inner quality of the individual. Maybe some day...if you see the light...you'll get there too.

[souvenir]

I will use my 79-year-old FIL's response to unsolicited ranting:
"Well who the hell rattled, YER cage?"

[evenstar]

Oh Please...troll or idiot....or very immature.
You decide. ;)

Hey, I'm all over a nice neck. But my first horse had a really long head for her size (but a nice neck!), and was small and not too pretty, and she did a great job for me.
Bad stable manners are certainly not confined to "ugly" horses.

[hiddenlake]

Bad stable manners are certainly not confined to "ugly" horses.

Or, it would seem, trainer/breeder/equitation wannabees. ;)

[Flypony]

Why is everyone feeding this horrid little troll?

[hiddenlake]

Why is everyone feeding this horrid little troll?

Because she asked and because it's entertaining. Kind of like poking a stick at some little creature you find in your backyard---you want to see what happens. :cool:

[jilltx]

What a fascinating and introspective post. ***Pfffffft...snork***
(addresssing the OP of course)

[black&white]

All horses are beautiful. I love them all just the way they are. Beauty comes from the soul..... It's in their eyes. It's in the way they move. It's the nicker they make for you when you walk into the barn. It's in their desire to let you into their lives and accept you without judging you for anything other than how much you love them. All horses are beautiful.

i agree 100%. :)

[GoForAGallop]

Oh goodness, darling! Have a picture to post? I sure hope you're a gorgeous 6' model destined for the pages of vogue. 'Cause you know, guys out there just don't like the ugly, bad-mannered ones!!

[Heinz 57]

Well I for one made some attempt at something helpful... although I did have a bit of fun doing it. I really am curious about the answers to the questions I asked, and would be extremely happy to talk with the OP about dealing with the ugly, lazy, misbehaving schoolie.

She doesn't like ugly horses... I suppose she's no different than women that won't date a man they don't find attractive. Even if he did have all the skills and talents she could ever want! haha. Or the person that picks a puppy/breed because its CUTE (or won't own an ugly dog).

Pretty and ugly are relative. Have you ever watched What Not To Wear, A Makeover Story, 10 Years Younger, or any of those other makeover shows on TV? Some people would just rather have the finished product (like the OP) than be the person who has to do/pay for the makeover.

I personally bought a horse that was not attractive in his current state. He was an OTTB with no new training - poorly muscled with a grown out mane, had a pencil neck which made his head look a little long and donkey-ish, and his coat was long, tail sort of short. However, I could see that with some weight and the right muscle, a bath and a mane pull, he would be much more attractive. I would consider him "Pretty", although he would kill me if he knew I called him that (although he is jealous of The Precious).

[goeslikestink]

ooh i resuce one yonks a go apally was tbx welsh type weirdest comformation
you ever did see as in short body height 13.2 long neck and big tb head
long scholders and short legs-- also had a cateract in right eye i was teaching at my yard these two sisters at the time and they fell for him they was moving away and couldnt bear to be parted from a nice gentleman of 13yrs old they had him vetted he didnt pass due to his eye but they really loved him so i did sell him to them becuase they ther father said my girls love misty and we have found a stable yard for him and hes going on full livery we intend to keep him for life -- and they did - that pony when i got him was so skinny and long ocat looked like a powder puff all fur until you stroke his coat with your hands then you felt his rib cage the pony was owner by a trianer only she never wormed him so i got him -- nice lad and true gent may have been a bit mishaped or ugly to some but his his spirit was kind and loving --
and he loved those girls to bits-- they are grown up now they told me when he died and they still keep in touch -

horses of any type are one of the most graceful creatures on this planet

[Caroline Weber]

I'm just really annoyed by people who get offended when I say 'said' horse is ugly or I just personally don't like it. Mind you, it is certainly not their personal horse. I just hate in when people sit on their high horse and claim every horse is beautiful and wonderful. This simply is not true. Some horses are just plain ugly and look like they should be pulling carts instead of jumping around a hunter course. And I have indeed riddend these specific 'special' horses, and I still don't like them, so it's not like my opinon is solely on looks. One girl proceeded to rant and rave at me about "why would you sell a horse thats willing to work all day for you? Just because you think it's ugly!?!" Ha, hardly.

These horses in particular are known to be total brats. One bucked her rider off consistently and has the nastiest attitude toward other horses. She's been known to honestly run backwards to kick another horse. The other is a total dick. He'll charge the grain bin w/ you on the lead, regardless of how many times you smack him on the neck to stop. He'll charge you in the paddock if you try to bring him in. He'll try to smash you into the side of the stall if you try to wrap his legs in the stall. And they're ugly to boot. They're also very lazy.

I'm sorry, but these are NOT the kind of horses I'd want to have in my barn. Ugly I can deal with to an extent if they're a saint, but if they have a nasty attitude too and would rather sleep than do their job, well, I don't like em.

If I had the $ to buy a horse, and found one that matched what I wanted but was ugly, I would so hold out for that beautiful horse, they're bound to come along. I want a horse that makes me smile w/ pride to look at its gorgeous face everday. Call me crazy!

Sorry, but life's too short to ride an ugly horse, lazy horse. Yep, that's my opinion, get over it.

I should also add that my opinion stems from the fact that I want to eventually breed sporthorses, and am therefore very particular about looks, temperment, and conformation in all horses that I come across. Call it vanity, whatever, but yes, the prettiest horses in the barn are bound to be my favorites.
rant over.

Wow. What a one-sided opinion.

[TropicalStorm]

While I might not think all horses are beautiful, at least I'm not rude enough to comment about it!

Remember, another person's junk might very well be another person's treasure! That ugly little horsey mutt might very well be an amazing therapeutic horse, or *shocker* a 3rd level dressage horse. Don't be so judgemental ;)

[Tiempo]

Stink..that's a nice story,I'm glad the little guy had a love filled life:)

[Grasshopper]

Instant Karma....You win quote of the year with that one!

Amen! ROFL:lol:

[Dalfan]

Hasn't this train reached the station yet?? I'm out of popcorn, darn:D Ok. Has the OP received sufficient lashings for the crime? Poor girl :yes:

[EQHopeful]

The more time I spend around the racetrack the less inclined I am to be instantly impressed with a beautiful horse. They're pretty when they're fast :)

But, I think the OP is going through the time in your life when you realize that just because you love horses doesn't mean you love every horse. :yes:

We have one in or program that I hate :mad: he's 17h++ and a hyper-freak. I was unloading him off the trailer yesterday and he very calmly and deliberately broke the halter, broke the slant in the trailer and took off across the backside. Not the first time he's done that. He is the living reason why I stock extra halters and trailer ties in my trailer. I'm not going to insult anything about his looks. I'm not going to make fun of anyone who likes him. But if I could "delete one horse from the planet" he would be my choice :lol: And yes, I call him names on occassion. But "dick" would be the 'child-friendly' version of what I call him :winkgrin:.

(Off hand - I once commented to my boss that this horse seemed like the type that was easier to ride than handle on the ground. He looked me right in the eye and said "never ride him." lol)

I guess if you're only going to be in contact with a handful of horses in your life, you should get what makes you happy. But when you're a professional, you learn to like what you got :) If you spend all your time uptight thinking about what you don't like... you never get to fully explore the things you do.

And also, if you're a real professional rider/trainer (I'm a farm manager, I just feed them ;) ) you'll miss out on some really spectacular horses. The aforementioned horse is a heck*of*a*runner he is absolutely capable of channeling is evil into performance. As a professional rider/trainer you can't afford to pass up a talented animal like that because you can't stand their personality.

~Adrienne


Hmm, I wonder why you haven't been hung yet for your post??? You *gasp* don't particularily like a particular horse for his poor attitude and ground manners, not solely his looks. 'Erased from the planet'!! NO!! How could you!! EVERY horse is beautiful on the inside, even the ones who pin their ears and bare their teeth at everyone who walks by their stalls, even the ones who buck like rodeo ponies to try to get every new rider to eat dirt, even the ones who charge you down in the paddock becuz they're not ready to come in. Yes, EVERY horse is beautiful on the inside. *Gag*

Regardless of how they got there attitude wise, they're still nasty horses. Not saying they shouldn't be given a shot at changing their behavior, but after time and nothing working, well, they're still just nasty horses w/ the ugliness shining through.

I've fallen in love w/ a couple of ugly horses, because they had a great work ethic and would try their hearts out. They 'become' beautiful in your mind, like many have posted here. But like you've said, they're still "so ugly, they're cute"

Yep, I do love horses, but I don't love every horse. And for you all to say you love every horse you've ever laid eyes on, well, thats just unrealistic in most cases.

"I guess if you're only going to be in contact with a handful of horses in your life, you should get what makes you happy" --That's the most mindful thing I've read on this thread so far. It's realistic and is what every one should strive for.

But go right ahead, jump on the bandwagon!! ALL ABOARD!! :lol: I'm a shallow person who doesn't like ulgy horses...read: I'll pass on the ulgy one for the beautiful one all other things considered.

I've already got my bag of popcorn!!:rolleyes: Where's yours??!

[twhrider13]

Monty Python, anyone? A shrubbery, perhaps?

"Always look on the bright side of life..."

Now, cosmos mom, you're just trying to confuse everyone. You know perfectly well that the shrubbery and the bright side of life were two totally different movies. ;) My personal favorite is, "We're knights of the round table. We dance whene'er we're able...."

Anyway, to address this seriously: Ugly and pretty are subjective, anyway. When I first went to look at Bubba, I saw a couple of horses in the field. One was this dull, yellow color with hipbones that stuck out and a really long head. I thought, please, Jesus, don't let that be the horse. It was, though.

I've had him since I was 13. I'll be 23 in exactly a week. Everyone thinks he's the prettiest horse I have. That ugly dull yellow color turned out to be a lovely shade of champagne after a bath and little sunbleaching. His hipbones still stick out, no matter how fat his belly is, and his head is still long. The white blaze on his face makes it look longer than it really is, though. I've won more ribbons on him than any horse I've ever ridden. In his heyday, he was one of the supreme-o Walking Country Pleasure horses in this part of the world. I remember taking him to Wartrace, one of the biggest one-night Walking Horse shows, and showing him there. He didn't place, but everyone went insane over this tall, champagne horse with the amber eyes. People I'd never seen in my life came up to talk to me about him. He's still lovely, although I will admit that his reign as CP king is over.

(Now I think I'm going to go post a new thread about awesome things that have happened to you with your horses. There's another story that goes along with the Wartrace show that I just reminded myself of.)

[Appassionato]

Now, cosmos mom, you're just trying to confuse everyone. You know perfectly well that the shrubbery and the bright side of life were two totally different movies. ;) My personal favorite is, "We're knights of the round table. We dance whene'er we're able...."

Anyway, to address this seriously: Ugly and pretty are subjective, anyway. When I first went to look at Bubba, I saw a couple of horses in the field. One was this dull, yellow color with hipbones that stuck out and a really long head. I thought, please, Jesus, don't let that be the horse. It was, though.

I've had him since I was 13. I'll be 23 in exactly a week. Everyone thinks he's the prettiest horse I have. That ugly dull yellow color turned out to be a lovely shade of champagne after a bath and little sunbleaching. His hipbones still stick out, no matter how fat his belly is, and his head is still long. The white blaze on his face makes it look longer than it really is, though. I've won more ribbons on him than any horse I've ever ridden. In his heyday, he was one of the supreme-o Walking Country Pleasure horses in this part of the world. I remember taking him to Wartrace, one of the biggest one-night Walking Horse shows, and showing him there. He didn't place, but everyone went insane over this tall, champagne horse with the amber eyes. People I'd never seen in my life came up to talk to me about him. He's still lovely, although I will admit that his reign as CP king is over.

(Now I think I'm going to go post a new thread about awesome things that have happened to you with your horses. There's another story that goes along with the Wartrace show that I just reminded myself of.)

Appassionato gathers her coconut halves, starts clonking them together and sings,

"Sir Robin! Sir Robin!"

[Heinz 57]

EQHopeful...

This doesn't have to be a trainwreck. On page 3/4, or somewhere thereabouts, I posted a couple questions (serious ones!). I personally accept your point of view and don't really have a problem with it. I gave some examples in my last post of similar instances elsewhere in life. :)

I'd be happy if you answered my questions, but if you don't - I am perfectly happy to say Ok, whatev. Train wreck, continue!

[Percheron X]

Yep, I do love horses, but I don't love every horse. And for you all to say you love every horse you've ever laid eyes on, well, thats just unrealistic in most cases.

Unrealistic.... why do think it is unrealistic to love every horse?

[EQHopeful]

Here ya go Bearcomb:

Q: Why are you dealing with an ugly schoolie? Becuz that's what they gave me to ride, & I rode him every chance I got. There was one good thing about him, he had some super smooth gaits, which I LOVED. BUT, he still was nasty on the ground and a jerk. But, he still got his peppermints and scatches when he was good. I just wouldn't own/buy him for my barn if I had the choice.

Q: Why, if you are having PROBLEMS with said ugly schoolie, are you not seeking the advice and/or guidance of the professional in charge of the schoolie? I did ask them about it, but apparently I was already doing what they suggested. Besides, I'm no longer working with this horse.

Q: Do you have your own horse? Nope, the husband isn't ready yet...nor is my pocketbook, i.e. college

Q: What type of sporthorse do you plan on breeding? Almost every breed has "sporthorses". There are Morgan Sporthorses, Appaloosa Sporthorses, Andalusian Sporthorses, it goes on and on. Lets not even get in to sport ponies. Well, I've still yet to decide on whether I want to focus my riding in jumpers or hunters, I really like both. But hunters have a bigger price tag in terms of breeding, so I think it'll be more profitable. I love TB/Warmblood crosses. The sensitivity of the TB and refinement combinded w/ the strong structure of the warmblood (public opion carries weight here as well, gotta breed what people want to buy). Oh, & I'd love to breed a few sportponies as well...love the ponies...Connemara's in particular.

Q: Given the choice, would you rather sleep or work, if it still meant you got fed, watered, and let out to play? It is important that you understand that horses don't think like humans and just because the horse makes you work harder to get what you want in terms of work does not mean the horse is making the "choice" to sleep rather than work for your personal hour.
I understand what you're saying. But, I feel if I'm willing to pay the bills to give my horse the 'good life' and keep them clean and content as can be, I don't think I'm asking too much for them to have a good work ethic for that one hour. Yes, I'm positive that they'd rather be eating, but I've ridden many who will still work for you and try for you undersaddle regardless.

[Appassionato]

Hmm, I wonder why you haven't been hung yet for your post??? You *gasp* don't particularily like a particular horse for his poor attitude and ground manners, not solely his looks. 'Erased from the planet'!! NO!! How could you!! EVERY horse is beautiful on the inside, even the ones who pin their ears and bare their teeth at everyone who walks by their stalls, even the ones who buck like rodeo ponies to try to get every new rider to eat dirt, even the ones who charge you down in the paddock becuz they're not ready to come in. Yes, EVERY horse is beautiful on the inside. *Gag*

Regardless of how they got there attitude wise, they're still nasty horses. Not saying they shouldn't be given a shot at changing their behavior, but after time and nothing working, well, they're still just nasty horses w/ the ugliness shining through.

I've fallen in love w/ a couple of ugly horses, because they had a great work ethic and would try their hearts out. They 'become' beautiful in your mind, like many have posted here. But like you've said, they're still "so ugly, they're cute"

Yep, I do love horses, but I don't love every horse. And for you all to say you love every horse you've ever laid eyes on, well, thats just unrealistic in most cases.

"I guess if you're only going to be in contact with a handful of horses in your life, you should get what makes you happy" --That's the most mindful thing I've read on this thread so far. It's realistic and is what every one should strive for.

But go right ahead, jump on the bandwagon!! ALL ABOARD!! :lol: I'm a shallow person who doesn't like ulgy horses...read: I'll pass on the ulgy one for the beautiful one all other things considered.

I've already got my bag of popcorn!!:rolleyes: Where's yours??!

Anyone notice the change from physical appearances to work ethic?

Watch for far-flung cows, everybody!

[EQHopeful]

Anyone notice the change from physical appearances to work ethic?

Watch for far-flung cows, everybody!


"These horses in particular are known to be total brats. One bucked her rider off consistently and has the nastiest attitude toward other horses. She's been known to honestly run backwards to kick another horse. The other is a total dick. He'll charge the grain bin w/ you on the lead, regardless of how many times you smack him on the neck to stop. He'll charge you in the paddock if you try to bring him in. He'll try to smash you into the side of the stall if you try to wrap his legs in the stall. And they're ugly to boot. They're also very lazy.

I'm sorry, but these are NOT the kind of horses I'd want to have in my barn. Ugly I can deal with to an extent if they're a saint, but if they have a nasty attitude too and would rather sleep than do their job, well, I don't like em. "

Hmm, yeah. Definitely from my first post :winkgrin: Comprehension people, comprehension.

[Appassionato]

"These horses in particular are known to be total brats. One bucked her rider off consistently and has the nastiest attitude toward other horses. She's been known to honestly run backwards to kick another horse. The other is a total dick. He'll charge the grain bin w/ you on the lead, regardless of how many times you smack him on the neck to stop. He'll charge you in the paddock if you try to bring him in. He'll try to smash you into the side of the stall if you try to wrap his legs in the stall. And they're ugly to boot. They're also very lazy.

I'm sorry, but these are NOT the kind of horses I'd want to have in my barn. Ugly I can deal with to an extent if they're a saint, but if they have a nasty attitude too and would rather sleep than do their job, well, I don't like em. "

Hmm, yeah. Definitely from my first post :winkgrin: Comprehension people, comprehension.

Whoops! We've disappointed her and have been reprimanded. Everyone, start fighting again! Her trainwreck has gone in a direction NOT of her choosing. Pity! :lol:

[goeslikestink]

a horse/ pony only re-acts how you act

if the owners are letting the horse be boss then the feed bins it wil go-
o f whome is in control of said horses or horses if they misbehave

and as you say there uglyness shines thorugh -- but then you saying trhey have ugy charactors -- but then only horses with ulgy chractors like the ones that you surgesting is down to lack of manners due to bad handling
and imcompendence --

its not the horses as such but the people of whome are working with said horses letting them continue to be the ugly charactor becuase no one has put them back in control -- either riding wise nor handling wise

that says a lot for the tranier - or owner as you said they schoolies so
either the trianer lacks - cofidence in all she does or the owner does

so horsey being an ugly git cuase hes getting his own and is boss off all he does or doesnt do --

down to competant owner rider handler -- not the horse

and a good erson never blames his tools -- all what the horse learns is by the human hand

[blue&blond]

"The moral of this story is beauty is as beauty does, hearts of gold can rarely be seen upon first glance, and dirt hurts." <---- I LOVE that!

This whole topic reminds me of a little story. One of my horses, the little guy "Bubby" is about 13.3 and built like a tank. Think Trojan horse. He's cute in his own way but by no means could you ever say "pretty" and "Bubby" in the same sentence.

Anyway, while schooling xc one day a very young (and kind of clueless) girl said "Bubby looks like he should be chasing cows." (Please no offense to those of you who have cutting horses.) She meant it as an insult (remember she was kind of clueless) and was always making comments about his looks. Thinking about it, she said that a few times and made a point of saying it. At first, I didn't understand what she meant but after she said it a few times, I got that she mean it as an insult.

Fast foward, saw the same girl at a local jumpers schooling show. We ended up with two 1st and one 2nd. A 1st in the 3' class (and remember, he's only 13.3) Can you guess what her comment was later that day? "Bubby is so cute!" Haha, whatever. I guess my point is judging a horse solely on looks is foolish and silly.

[Scootie]

Perhaps some Parelli ground-training would do you some good. :yes:

Sorry, the this sentence makes me wonder if what the OP really needs is to be chased around a round pen with a vegetable du jour stick by an ugly horse!:winkgrin:

[Appassionato]

Sorry, the this sentence makes me wonder if what the OP really needs is to be chased around a round pen with a vegetable du jour stick by an ugly horse!:winkgrin:

Maybe that's why this whole thread started? Outdone by an "ugly"? :lol:

[NCEquestrian]

You should have seen my horse a year and a half ago. Disaster case. Had one hoof in the alpo can. I actually thought he was old (he was only 5 1/2), ugly (well, he certainly was that...and several hundred pounds underweight), and just an overall mess. BUT, he had the best shoulder I have ever seen on a horse. And once he put on some weight and muscle, he began to show a tremendous jump.

Guess what? He'll jump his first big grand prix next year. Oh yeah, did I mention how beautiful he turned out? If you don't believe me, check him out here: http://www.crowellcanyonranch.com/Nicole_Carroll.htm

Some of the ugliest duckings grow up to become the most gorgeous swans....

[jonquilTN]

OP

You need a motor boat, not a horse.

[Roux]

Domain name: "no-ugly-horses.com" - $8.95/yr

Website hosting for forum on the above site so you can gripe about ugly horses (low traffic) - $39.95/yr

Attitude adjustment because the "ugly" horse you agreed to exercise just saved your @$$ from a stupid mistake: Priceless.


There are some things money can't buy. Character & sensitivity are two of them.

Just my $2.00 (reflects fuel surcharge)

R~

[Percheron X]

"These horses in particular are known to be total brats. One bucked her rider off consistently and has the nastiest attitude toward other horses. She's been known to honestly run backwards to kick another horse. The other is a total dick. He'll charge the grain bin w/ you on the lead, regardless of how many times you smack him on the neck to stop. He'll charge you in the paddock if you try to bring him in. He'll try to smash you into the side of the stall if you try to wrap his legs in the stall. And they're ugly to boot. They're also very lazy.

I'm sorry, but these are NOT the kind of horses I'd want to have in my barn. Ugly I can deal with to an extent if they're a saint, but if they have a nasty attitude too and would rather sleep than do their job, well, I don't like em. "

Hmm, yeah. Definitely from my first post :winkgrin: Comprehension people, comprehension.

I wouldn't work for you either if I was a horse, why should I, when you make it so obvious to me that no matter what I do, I will never be good enough for you because you think I'm ugly!!!

I have been working with horses for a very long time and the most remarkable thing I have learnt from horses is their ability to know who cares about them and who does not. I believe it is the greatest affirmation of a persons character if a horse "chooses to like you". A horse that loves you will do anything for you.

The love you receive from others in your life will be equal to the love you give. Be they people or animals, they will all know just how much you "really" care about them.

[tangerine_sky]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You guys obviously don't read for comprehension. Its amusing. Bashing me for not liking these particular horse 'simply becuz I think they're ugly'.

You're failing to comprehend that I don't like them becuz their ugly, have nasty attitudes, and would rather sleep than do their job one measly hour a day. The last two points only makes their physical ugliness shine through.

As for the comments from the one poster who's gelding had a similar grain bin problem, the horse did all those 'ground manner' things you listed off. I made sure of that. And I reprimanded him as best I could considering he is not my personal horse, just a schoolie. Some people don't take kindly to bashing horses on the nose w/ a chain shank, even though they very well deserve it for things like this. If he had been my own horse, worse would have been done to him, but he wasn't, so I felt there were certian limitations to how severly he could be reprimanded. On the upside, I'm sure it was funny as hell to watch.

And as for passing up the ugly horse who matched everything I wanted, he/she would be passed up because a beautiful horse w/ the same capabilies or better is bound to come along...there are too many horses out there for it not to happen. Its my money, I want to spend it on a beautiful horse, sorry.

Has anybody ever told you that your retarted? Seriously grow up and get a life. You sound like a 5 year old crying because big sister got something you wanted. And are you so sure that pretty horse with the samer personality will come along? I doubt it. Its really not a buyers market out there right now.

I hope one day to hear a story about you in a lovely fall because you bought the pretty nasty horse instead of the ugly nice one

[Need4speed]

Need4speed shakeing her head, trying to knock that song out of her head...

We're going on a troll hunt
We're going on a troll hunt
We're gonna catch a big one
We're gonna catch a big one
I'm not scared
I'm not scared....

I got me some jalapeno chips, and a cold one and my newly patented, get em while their hot brand new, genuiiiine $ 24.99 rutabaga, troll catchin' stick.... anyone interested :winkgrin: ?

[EQHopeful]

Has anybody ever told you that your retarted? Seriously grow up and get a life. You sound like a 5 year old crying because big sister got something you wanted. And are you so sure that pretty horse with the samer personality will come along? I doubt it. Its really not a buyers market out there right now.

I hope one day to hear a story about you in a lovely fall because you bought the pretty nasty horse instead of the ugly nice one

Aww, your cute! ;)

Ha ha

Oh please, you're telling me that out of the gazillions of horses for sale out there of various disciplines, breeds, age, you name it, I have near zero chace of finding a horse that has both beauty and a good work ethic with a sweet personality???? Sorry, my dear, but THAT's retarded.

[Coup De Des]

We really shouldn't feed the troll...

*poke poke poke* I'm sure poking it is OK but.

Can I say to the OP. You sound like a CHILD. You are obviously hugely immature and not ready to own horses. Let alone breed. Horses even.

Allow me to pose this question to you - HOW DO YOU THINK THESE HORSES GOT TO BE SOUR?

Retards like you. That's how. Horses are not born sour or with poor work ethics. They are not born wanting to bite humans or lunge at them through their stalls. *Shakes Head* People make them this way and it's a terrible shame.

Now you've made me so freaking angry I'm going to go post this and then go outside and ride my sweet tempered, well mannered horse. Why is he sweet tempered and well mannered? Because I treat him fairly and with respect.

I have no respect for you as a human being.

[Percheron X]

Need4speed shakeing her head, trying to knock that song out of her head...

We're going on a troll hunt
We're going on a troll hunt
We're gonna catch a big one
We're gonna catch a big one
I'm not scared
I'm not scared....

I got me some jalapeno chips, and a cold one and my newly patented, get em while their hot brand new, genuiiiine $ 24.99 rutabaga, troll catchin' stick.... anyone interested :winkgrin: ?


Hi Need4Speed, are you here troll watching too. :D

How's Storm, hope he's behaving... I remember you got a new horse too.... Hope things are going well up there in Canada. :)

Can I have a cold one too, and join the troll catchin' sing along? How do I order me a troll catchin' rutabaga stick... Every COTH'er needs a troll catchin' rutabaga stick. :yes:

[Coup De Des]

I'm handing them out -> feel free to help yourselves... The only colours I have are Magikal Golden Butterfly Gold and Royal Poop Purple but...

[EQHopeful]

We really shouldn't feed the troll...

*poke poke poke* I'm sure poking it is OK but.

Can I say to the OP. You sound like a CHILD. You are obviously hugely immature and not ready to own horses. Let alone breed. Horses even.

Allow me to pose this question to you - HOW DO YOU THINK THESE HORSES GOT TO BE SOUR?

Retards like you. That's how. Horses are not born sour or with poor work ethics. They are not born wanting to bite humans or lunge at them through their stalls. *Shakes Head* People make them this way and it's a terrible shame.

Now you've made me so freaking angry I'm going to go post this and then go outside and ride my sweet tempered, well mannered horse. Why is he sweet tempered and well mannered? Because I treat him fairly and with respect.

I have no respect for you as a human being.

I'm a retard becuz I said that a horse was ugly. :confused: Sorry, but I've never made a horse act like you so describe, I've simply met them that way, and done my best to change that behavior for the better. Who are you to proclaim from your high horse and never have met me to say I don't treat my horses fairly and w/ respect. That's completely ludacris. You sound like a child I'm afraid. Just becuz I said a horse was ugly and lazy doesn't mean I treated him poorly, I cleaned and cared for him just like any other horse and reprimanded him when he deserved it, just like any horse. My opinion of him is gathered from my own experience of him.

[Coup De Des]

OMG COTHER'S... I NEED YOUR HELP HERE BECAUSE http://www.birkoph.com/owned/owned_help.jpg

[EQHopeful]

Ha, I was waiting for this one. Whenever someone doesn't agree w/ others on this board, there's always a stupid irrelevent comment about spelling and punctuation.





...nice try.

[goeslikestink]

you know your absolutly right-- there so many pretty nice good looking horses out there millions with th swettest of temprements-- htat is until someone rides- handles them and turns them in to ugly monsters becuase they cant handle them -- possiably yourself --

21 -- and a lesson ---havent owned a horse
havent got a barn
havent had to look after horses/ponies24/7
havent had to go out to barn 2/3 times aday --
havent got up in the middle of the night for vet job
havent had colic
havent had strangles
havent had no water so had to fetch it
havent had horses out in winter
hanvent had horses out in summer


my point if you think horses are ugly then sometimes matey working with get ugly like in the coldest part of winter or getting up at 3am cause they ill and you have to see to them
of which you havent done that - you think owing a barn is easy

it gets ugly at times - haha

[EQHopeful]

you know your absolutly right-- there so many pretty nice good looking horses out there millions with th swettest of temprements-- htat is until someone rides- handles them and turns them in to ugly monsters becuase they cant handle them -- possiably yourself --

21 -- and a lesson ---havent owned a horse
havent got a barn
havent had to look after horses/ponies24/7
havent had to go out to barn 2/3 times aday --
havent got up in the middle of the night for vet job
havent had colic
havent had strangles
havent had no water so had to fetch it
havent had horses out in winter
hanvent had horses out in summer


my point if you think horses are ugly then sometimes matey working with get ugly like in the coldest part of winter or getting up at 3am cause they ill and you have to see to them
of which you havent done that - you think owing a barn is easy

it gets ugly at times - haha

Hmm, never implied that owning a horse/barn was easy. Just cannot afford one at the moment. And I have dealt w/ most of your list, thanks.

[Percheron X]

Yep, I do love horses, but I don't love every horse. And for you all to say you love every horse you've ever laid eyes on, well, thats just unrealistic in most cases.

Unrealistic.... why do think it is unrealistic to love every horse?

[EQHopeful]

Unrealistic.... why do think it is unrealistic to love every horse?

I don't think it's unrealistic to have a certain level of respect for every horse, but love every one? Yes I think this is unrealistic in most respects.

[Coup De Des]

GLS just totally owned you.

[Percheron X]

I don't think it's unrealistic to have a certain level of respect for every horse, but love every one? Yes I think this is unrealistic in most respects.

Please define your definition of love in regards to your statement....

[Percheron X]

To love all horses one only need care about and feel affection for every one. :) :yes:

[TBsRgr8]

Has anybody ever told you that your retarted? Seriously grow up and get a life. You sound like a 5 year old crying because big sister got something you wanted. And are you so sure that pretty horse with the samer personality will come along? I doubt it. Its really not a buyers market out there right now.

I hope one day to hear a story about you in a lovely fall because you bought the pretty nasty horse instead of the ugly nice one

I'm sorry, but the people I know who have mental retardation are able to see beyond the outter looks of a person/ animal and see the beauty on the inside. Many of them have learned this lesson by being condemned and teased themselves. Yet, they are some of the most beautiful people I have ever met. I know that they like me for who I am and not what I look like on the exterior. I think it's an insult to every person whom I have ever met with mental retardation to be compared to this outspoken OP who has not mastered the ability to have respect for others.

[goeslikestink]

thats true tbsrgr8 they have a wonderful gift to with horses

[Heinz 57]

Resident COTH'ers: come on. Grow up. You should NOT be calling ANYONE "retarded". Y'all are supposed to be more grownup than that. I know you're having fun, but could you attempt to do it in a manner that isn't going to possibly offend other people? Put your troll sticks away and act like the civilized adults (or teenagers) that I'm pretty sure you are. :)

This could actually be a pretty decent discussion on a number of topics - for example: disciplining schoolies, breeding sporthorses for H/J, the definition of "ugly" (purely looks, or conformation?), mismanagement of school horses in lesson barns, tired over-used schoolies, how to motivate the lazy horse U/S, etc.

EQHopeful, from your original post - IMO, it sounds like your friends would rather not know which horses you find ugly. I suppose you'd be wasting your breath (a bit like you are here) if you made any more effort to voice your opinion. In that case, you might as well just say Ok. Whatev... and let them have their not-so-attractive horses. You're free to buy what you like. :)

Disclaimer: I don't share the OP's opinion on ugly horses. I do, however, accept it as such and since she is not causing any harm to the "uglies", I really just. don't. care.

Train wreck conductor, you are free to toot the horn and plow on. ;)

[naters]

I actually think that ugly horses are more likely to have good manners than attractive ones... the pretty ones tend to be able to get away with more based on their looks.


Ha ha :) Just like some women, they can get away with an awful lot sometimes based on their looks!!

Seriously agreeing with you here Renn.... one mare at our barn is the most beautiful mare you have ever seen. Dark Bay, 4 Whites, white blaze, just gorgeous. And a B@#($!!!

Our theory is that when she hit the ground as a baby, everyone fussed over her so much that it ruined her. Everyone wants that dark bay with 4 whites! I on the other hand LOFF my chestnut gelding. And in the summer, he is the only one to get compliments on his shiny slick coat, that reflects like a shiny new penny!

I LIKE having chestnuts... less fading issues too!

[cosmos mom]

Where is Alysheba when you need her?
"Always look on the bright side of life " (whistling)

[Just My Style]

Maybe the horses think that you are ugly.

[rileyt]

OK, wait... I'm just practically crying here...

Stinky, you know I love you, but this was a priceless quote:

"ooh i resuce one yonks a go apally was tbx welsh type"

What the heck does that mean??? Does anyone speak Stinky?

So here we all are, poking the troll... a troll who is probably all of 12 years old (please God, let it be a 12-year-old)... who claims she is 21, MARRIED, supposedly in college, rides schoolies she thinks are ugly, can't afford a single horse, but is going to own her own warmblood breeding operation one day ---breeding only beautiful, perfectly mannered, expensive hunters. Her lucrative breeding business will undoubtedly make her a millionaire, so she can then become the host and star of "Jane Millionaire" -- her own reality TV show where 12 elligible (and non-ugly and perfectly mannered) bachelors will compete for her shriveled up prune of a heart.

I love it. Who knows the producers over at FOX TV? Sounds right up their alley.

I can barely see straight I'm laughing so hard.

OK, but one serious side note... I agree with the other poster... lets not be using the word "retards"... that became an inappropriate term decades ago.

Carry on. Can someone pass the chips? Or are the adult beverages still floating around?

[Dalfan]

"ooh i resuce one yonks a go apally was tbx welsh type"

What the heck does that mean??? Does anyone speak Stinky?

She rescued one years ago that was probably a TB/Welsh cross. How's that?

[cosmos mom]

She rescued one years ago that was probably a TB/Welsh cross. How's that?


Wow, you are good!

[Riva]

I'm sorry, but that is probably the worst post ever about ugly horses.

I'll never forget a few years ago seeing one of the butt-ugliest horses I've ever seen in my life. Flea-bitten grey, all leg, funky looking body, ugly movement. But boy could that thing jump AND he took amazing care of his rider. If I had to choose between an ugly horse like that grey and a beautiful horse with a miserable disposition/personality. I'll go with the grey all day long.

buying a horse or evaluating a horse based on its looks is just as stupid as buying a horse based on color.

[rileyt]

Ohhhhh,... EXCELLENT Dalfan.

Tell me... is "yonks" a real word/expression? Or was it just a misspelling?

[LivviesMom]

Jeez... Hate to see how the OP reacts when all her perfect little warmblood hunter foals go through their UGLY AWKWARD phases!

I'll keep a few stall available and come get the poor unfortunate babies myself...

[Jumphigh83]

Beauty is only skin deep...but UGLY goes right to the bone...right Eqhopeless? Amazing nasty attitude....... hope you have a plastic surgeon on retainer because gravity will not be your friend.

[Jinx]

holy schnikeis i just read this WHOOOOOLLLLLLLEEEEEE thing!

to the OP -- grow up or your going to end up inflicting some sort of massive genetic problem on the horses you breed...remember those ugly ones that no one shouldve bred are good for genetic diversity! (think about how the heinz 57 dog always seems to live the longest!)

Secondly, you come off really really badly...no wonder people jumped all over you, oh but apperently I cannot COMPREHEND what your saying. So I will take your advice and say whatever...and good luck when you decide to breed and own your own horses. Im sure that Gypsy Vanners are in your future...cause they are the mostest beutaful horzez in da worrld!

[Eventaholic]

I guess the way I look at it is the same as any other relationship- attraction IS a factor. How many people do you know married someone they found physicaly very unnatractive?

Now I'm not saying personality doesn't play into it bla hblah blah. It does, and it's a HUGE part of the relationship- be it horse and rider, or spouse and spouse. I've had relationships with many a person and a horse who is not textbook geourgous- but they've had cute little quirks. A nice smile, a cute muzzle, great hair, an adorable mane.

[zedcadjna]

I have a few lesson horses that are not the prettiest things in the world, but they work their butts off for me and truck my little kids and adult riders all over the place, i have everything from a leppard app, to a blue eyed paint, and neither one of them are very pretty but they win at both the rateds and the locals, judges love them and have told me so..

Wheter or not I have the prettiest horses in the world doesnt matter too me as long as they are honest and sweet and do their job, no animal is perfect they all have their flaws...

Just because you think a horse is ugly could be beautiful to another....

[BelladonnaLily]

[QUOTE=rileyt;2012484]OK, wait... I'm just practically crying here...

Stinky, you know I love you, but this was a priceless quote:

"ooh i resuce one yonks a go apally was tbx welsh type"

What the heck does that mean??? Does anyone speak Stinky?

QUOTE]

See, I read that as "I rescued one years ago...a palomino of tb/welshx type."

[shmeg<33]

Maybe the horses think that you are ugly.

I agree!!!:D :D

[colleent]

Wow, I can tell you and I are going to get along GREAT:rolleyes: !!!! (that was total sarcasm by the way... if you didn't get it.

I'm going with how you started your post; all about appearance. Halfway through, you may have thought about how you sounded and backpedalled a bit with the way certain horses act, but in the end, you would pass up an "ugly" horse even if it was perfect in every other way.

My 6 yr old daughter has a horse. He has an oversized head, mountain whithers, swayed back, and a huge QH butt..... On our acreage, he is the most beautiful horse here. Why? He takes care of my little girl. He's honest, kind, good, worth his weight in diamonds. When he gets to old to carry even her around, he will retire here with the best feed and care available, and he will breath his last breath here.

I have ridden some gorgeous horses, conformation wise, head, head-set, colour, whatever. Some were real jerks.

Pretty is as pretty does.

Oh, here's another chestnut for you: If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything.

Could not have said it better myself.

[Need4speed]

... Put your troll sticks away and act like the civilized adults (or teenagers) that I'm pretty sure you are. :)

...Train wreck conductor, you are free to toot the horn and plow on. ;)

AWWWWW, but I wanna poke the troll with my rutabaga troll catchin' stick *pouting*

Hey PercheronX, long time no talk. Unfortunatelly I don't have Storm anymore. I decided life was too short to keep a horse that was just waiting for a chance to hurt me (I know that sounds facecious, but believe me, it wasn't an easy decision). To the OP, he was an absolute stunner to look at, and the movement on him....
Now I've got an OTTB, and if I do say so myself, he's the entire package...I think I've been feeding him a bit much, he's getting fat:yes: . Yay!!! Fat thoroughbred (for some reason that spelling just doesn't look right -anywho) in winter!!!!!:cool: Hope things are going well with you - PM me sometime!

TOOT TOOT.... GIT THEM THERE COWS OFFN THE TRACK!!!

[atr]

Yes, "yonks" is a "real slang" word. "Yonks ago" is a legitimate phrase in English English slang.

Poor OP would have to poke her eyes out if she lived here :)

[EQHopeful]

I saw my mare step off the truck was...oh my, she's ugly.

When my personal opinion has determined a horse to be "ugly" (bad conformation, lumpy head, whatever).

I tried one of those ugly horses. He looked like a cross between an Appaloosa, a donkey, a Percheron, and a French rat. A serious two-bagger.

Awwww, my favorite "first" horse was an ugly old QH mare.

My 12 yr old daughter has a large pony who could rank among the physically ugliest horses I have ever seen.

Horses can certainly be ugly in appearance (there's one at my stable who truly is ugly--but he's so ugly he's cute).

I've owned both pretty horses and ugly ones.

It was one of those "UGH!"-ly horses, if you know what I mean.

Our farm has the market on ugly horses.

It amazes me the level of hypocrisy that is present within this thread. This is what I've gleaned from this thread so far in terms of general thought "I've met/owned/ridden an ugly horse. But, he was such an angel undersaddle and taught me so much/we won everything together". It's great that you've met such great horses. My point is, would you feel so grandly about them if they had nasty personalities?? I think not. If you had to choose between two horses, both the same personalities and capabilites, would you consider the ugly one or the pretty one to take home?

That is just a sampling from this entire thread from poster's claiming that a certian horse is physcially ugly. Regardless of whether or not they're perfect mounts, the fact remains that you have deemed them ugly. That's your personal opinion on their physical appearance. You, as well as I, have every right to that opinion. If you say that horse is simply beautiful and I say I think it's kinda ugly, that's two separate people's opinion. Agree to disagree. It's those who get their blood boiling over conflicting opinions that annoy me, like the girl in my original post.

If I offended some people w/ the cart-horse-hunter remark, that wasn't my intention. It wasn't meant as an insult to all draft/driving horses. I've seen plenty of beautiful specimens there. But if you asked a competitive A circuit rider if most drafts or draft-crosses had what it takes physically to make it around a hunter course and win/impress the judges, they'd most likely say no. That was my point in my statement.

So sorry that you all are perfect lovely people who have liked every horse or animal they've ever had the opportunity to meet. That's just grand; however, I have met some that I personally don't care for. Why I should be verbally insulted because of this, is beyond me. Have you really loved every animal you've met? Maybe indeed some of you have, but I don't think that's the case in general, many of you sound like self-righteous wanna bes.

And calling me immature only further illustrates your own immaturity. I know I'm not immature, but the rest of you??? Not so sure. I mean, "poke the troll?" Where did you learn that, in first grade??!? "You're a retard!!"??? The last time I heard that remark was indeed in elementary school. Sorry, but many of you don't sound like mature adults. You sound like your perpetually stuck in high school semantics.

Instead of making inferences about my age or personal integrity or my future intensions, maybe you should take a look at yourselves. And how rude is it to basically insult someone's integrity/opinion simply because they haven't been blessed w/ the finances to own a horse of their or barn of their own? That's absurd. As for the ugly foals, I've yet to see one.

How demeaning of your own integrity to insult someone elses hopes for the future, or to imply that they have no concept of the level of hard work or capital that it would require? Who are you to say it could not happen? I would never be so heinous as to belittle someone's aspirations. That is both asinine and immature.

[3fatponies]

I think you are failing to understand what is driving the animosity towards you. Simply put, it's your presentation.

A good thing to keep in mind in your life (online and off) and your career (any career) is that communication is not about what you SAID--it's about what people HEARD. A good communicator writes or speaks accordingly: they carefully evaluate their original statements from an unbiased perspective and adjust them accordingly. If their original communication is misunderstood, they apologize and seek to clarify their position with tact and humility, fully accepting that they are to blame for the mixup.

It's a skill that goes a long way in both private and public lives, so it may be something to think about to both make sense of this thread and avoid similar situations in the future. :)

[EQHopeful]

I think you are failing to understand what is driving the animosity towards you. Simply put, it's your presentation.

A good thing to keep in mind in your life (online and off) and your career (any career) is that communication is not about what you SAID--it's about what people HEARD. A good communicator writes or speaks accordingly: they carefully evaluate their original statements from an unbiased perspective and adjust them accordingly. If their original communication is misunderstood, they apologize and seek to clarify their position with tact and humility, fully accepting that they are to blame for the mixup.

It's a skill that goes a long way in both private and public lives, so it may be something to think about to both make sense of this thread and avoid similar situations in the future. :)

Well, we've all been gulity at one time or another for saying things less than tactfully.

But thank you for your level-headed adult response. I appreciate it...it's a rare occurances on this thread.

[3fatponies]

No doubt we have all been guilty of having our posts misunderstood, but in my experience, you will be punished harder online than anywhere else. :winkgrin: It's not a bad thing, really, when everything is written and that is the only method of communication. You're not alone either--we have all been reamed at one point or another, and it does keep the board from decending into chaos. It certainly makes you willing to learn from it, that's for sure! :lol:

Buck 'up and smile--nobody here is really unkind, but they will hand you your ass on a plate if they feel you need an "attitude adjustment," which is what makes this board better than most. The good news is that it doesn't have to impact every post you make from then on, as 'forgive and forget' seems to be a motto for anyone online who is remotely normal (if they can't forgive and forget, then consider that they have serious issues they are acting out which have nothing to do with you).

For what it's worth, I offer you an olive branch. :winkgrin:

[Huntertwo]

I get the impression that you have never owned a horse?? Remember, pretty is as pretty does.

I've had horses most of my life. When I was shopping for my dream trail horse. I didn't give a crap if it had 3 ears and 4 tails!! I didn't care what it looked like as long as it was sound, not-spooky and reliable (as in not bolting or killing me)

If found her and she just happened to be pretty :)

[Scootie]

Perhaps if you would be so kind as to illuminate us as what you actually said to the girl you keep referencing to in your posts and in reference to what and what her actual reaction was, perhaps someone could be a little more constructive in their response. They might not validate the behavior and condone what you did, but you might actually learn to understand why people are reacting the way they are.:)

Although I swear there are mind readers on this board. Last night I kept thinking why it always had to be a kohlrabi stick and not rutabaga, and today I keep seeing rutabaga sticks being mentioned.

So does this mean my sixth sense is telling me that rutabaga is the veggie du jour and kohlrabi is now yesterday's news?:D

[tradewind]

I just read this thread, and I would have to say, that my I believe my mother was right..you can think what you want, you dont have to say it..Those horses are beautiful to someone, and important to someone, your opinion, since it was unsolicited, was not needed...and hurtful to people who love them..I think your comments were immature, hurtful and rude..If the horses are actually putting you in danger talk to the BO..if not, keep your mouth shut..Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and it was your horses that someone was mouthing off about in a most unflattering way...

[Just My Style]

As for the ugly foals, I've yet to see one.



Then you haven't been around very long. ;) There was one at the racing farm that had the barn name of "Pride", but was usually called "Ugly Filly". Her JC name was "Mother's Pride" because she had a face only her mother could love. She turned in to a lovely mare and a great race horse, but you never, ever saw a worse looking foal. :yes:

[nightsong]

I think you are failing to understand what is driving the animosity towards you. Simply put, it's your presentation.

A good thing to keep in mind in your life (online and off) and your career (any career) is that communication is not about what you SAID--it's about what people HEARD. A good communicator writes or speaks accordingly: they carefully evaluate their original statements from an unbiased perspective and adjust them accordingly. If their original communication is misunderstood, they apologize and seek to clarify their position with tact and humility, fully accepting that they are to blame for the mixup.

It's a skill that goes a long way in both private and public lives, so it may be something to think about to both make sense of this thread and avoid similar situations in the future.
Well, we've all been gulity at one time or another for saying things less than tactfully
But thank you for your level-headed adult response. I appreciate it...it's a rare occurances on this thread.

LOVELY response. "everybody does it" and then "you are all wrong and children".

[Mtn trails]

My husband's most recent equine acquisition is a fugly appy mare that is one of the best horses we've ever owned and we've owned a few. She has a big head, pink rimmed eyes and is really quite hideous but has a great friendly personality even though she is a screamer. We make jokes about her lack of good looks but who cares? We've had people offer 3x what we paid for her because she is a wonderful trail horse - as trustworthy as the day is long and has a heart to match.

Here's to all the beautiful ugly horses!

[BLBGP]

It sounds like you have less of a problem with the horses being "ugly" and more of a problem with horses you don't get along with (and with verbal tact).

[Appassionato]

If I offended some people w/ the cart-horse-hunter remark, that wasn't my intention. It wasn't meant as an insult to all draft/driving horses. I've seen plenty of beautiful specimens there. But if you asked a competitive A circuit rider if most drafts or draft-crosses had what it takes physically to make it around a hunter course and win/impress the judges, they'd most likely say no. That was my point in my statement.

Guess I'll be the odd one out...I make fun of hunters! So I couldn't have been offended. :rolleyes:

[R D Lite]

Well, my horse used to be beautiful and now he's ugly! :lol:

Reuben was always the one random people watched, approached, asked about. They ALL told me how beautiful he was. Fast-forward to now. His vasculitis has left him hairless below the knees in front :eek: , the steroids have wasted away his topline and affected his winter coat so that his body is two different colors and the hair is longer in some places than others. Oh, and he fractured his skull and now has a huge lump on his face--the vets call him "the unicorn"! He's my pride and joy, but he's not pretty anymore.

I have not spent every day of the last ten months at the barn caring for him, medicating him, talking to the vet, emptying my wallet, etc. because I want him to be pretty again. If all I wanted was a pretty, well-broke horse, I could put Reuben down and get one of the many pretty, well-broke horses out there. I fight so hard for Reuben because he fights so hard. He has amazing heart, and for me that's more important than talent, training or looks.

He's not pretty and he may never be pretty again. I frequently hear people say "what's wrong with that horse??" I don't care. If he ever recovers, we'll go back to our dressage training and he'll be able to dance again. I will always ride him proudly.

Oh, and incidentally, I'm 22. So please don't think all young twenty-somthings are self-centered snots.

[2ndyrgal]

that the OP is pretty and good natured and kind. Really, one does hope that she can attract a good looking and attentive husband, and that none of her children are less than pretty and talented. To the OP, pretty is as pretty does, and a true horseman is unconcerned about the pretty head looking through the bridle, rather the brain that head contains. Not all ugly horses are "brats" or your other rather uncouth term of choice, and not all pretty ones, even what I refer to as an "OOOH AHHH" horse, are a joy to own. I am proud to own a horse that does it's job well. And if someone had a horse of a color or type that I didn't care for, I would certainly find something about the horse that I could make an agreeable comment about, or I would keep my mouth shut.

[arabhorse2]

Snap judgments are easy, when you're perfect. :lol: :lol:

I learned my lesson about pretty is as pretty does many years ago.

At an A-Rated Arabian show I came across the FUGLIEST horse I have ever seen! He was supposed to be a half Arabian, but what half I couldn't figure out!! Half Arab/Appaloosa cross, with practically no hair, pink skin showing through everywhere, what coat he had was a mess of brown and white mottles, little pig eye, clunky graceless head, and no mane or tail to speak of. Even his, um, pee-pee was mottled! :eek:

My friends and I, being the young, shallow, snotty creatures we were, made horrible fun of him, and then ran away giggling. I wasn't even that young, I was in my mid twenties and should have known better.

That horse happened to be one of the most amazing Park horses I have ever been privileged to see. He was a natural, and did his job with no fuss or muss. Unlike the other hot headed beasts in the ring with him, who couldn't seem to sustain the extended trot for more than three or four paces before breaking.

So, are there horses that I find less than physically attractive? You betcha! Would I EVER make a comment out loud about them? HAIL NO! Someone loves 'em, and maybe, just maybe, that horse is the next National Champion in his particular sport.

[Need4speed]

...Although I swear there are mind readers on this board. Last night I kept thinking why it always had to be a kohlrabi stick and not rutabaga, and today I keep seeing rutabaga sticks being mentioned.

So does this mean my sixth sense is telling me that rutabaga is the veggie du jour and kohlrabi is now yesterday's news?:D

Different veggies for different purposes, Scootie:yes: !! The famed Kohlrahbi stick is for the majickal training of horses in the method of ParelliKing.

The rutabaga troll catchin' stick is for that... to catch and poke trolls:D .

The OP seems not to like being CoTHed. Perhaps next time she wants to start a thread, she will think before posting.

3fatponies, you're awesome. Great post.

[La Gringa]

If you don't have something nice to say just don't say it. Does it help anybody to outwardly express your dislike for a horse? Just keep the thought to yourself and nobody will be offended. We all have thoughts like these, the problems come when you say them. It's not right to say things like this, and I have gotten in trouble myself by saying things I shouldn't. In the end I only say things out loud now when I feel it is very dangerous or harmful to someone or a horse (as in getting hurt physically). Beauty and appearance is totally subjective and not worth causing the upset about.

What harm comes from just not saying anything? None. What harm comes from saying it an offending and possibly someone who knows the owner hearing (you never know who is standing close enought to hear sometimes).. a lot potentially.

I agree, all horses are beautiful. Every day is great and sunny.

Just have a positive outlook on things and maybe that Ugly horse won't be so ugly afterall.

[harvestmoon]

So, basically, you're dealing with some horses that need some manners. That has nothing to do with them being ugly. Your vent should be towards owners who don't work with their ill-mannered animals. But, then, maybe they are working with them. It can take time.

[abrant]

Then you haven't been around very long. ;) There was one at the racing farm that had the barn name of "Pride", but was usually called "Ugly Filly". Her JC name was "Mother's Pride" because she had a face only her mother could love. She turned in to a lovely mare and a great race horse, but you never, ever saw a worse looking foal. :yes:

Haha...

Thou doth challenge me ;) I have photographic proof of Just My Style's assurtation that foals CAN be ugly...

We got this mare in exchange for an unpaid bill. She gave birth to THIS:

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/adriennebrant/ltc1.jpg

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

And NO, he was not septic... thanks for asking. Vet: "he just has... big joints" (emoticon for their reaction to said baby was would be much like the one used above)

I just took his yearling pictures - he's going to be a BIG BOY, and he might just end up being halfway attractive. His registered name will be "Coded" watch for him on the track, lol.

~Adrienne

[Annetta]

If I offended some people w/ the cart-horse-hunter remark, that wasn't my intention. It wasn't meant as an insult to all draft/driving horses. I've seen plenty of beautiful specimens there. But if you asked a competitive A circuit rider if most drafts or draft-crosses had what it takes physically to make it around a hunter course and win/impress the judges, they'd most likely say no.So you're assuming that cart horses are all/mostly draft or draft crosses? Hmm. I've seen a good many cart horses and only a very small percentage of them were draft horses. Mostly they are Morgan, Arab, Saddlebred, Welsh, Shetland, Hackney & Mini, with a few TWH and QH, and yes at certain shows we do see the draft horses hitched too...we do actually see a lot of draft crosses out in the dressage and hunter rings.

I'm not offended by the fact that you think all cart horses are ugly draft horses, I'm just curious where you get these silly ideas.

Gosh darn it, I went and stole a carrot stick, now you're all telling me I need either a rutabaga or a cabbage roll stick...no, wait, I mean a kohlrabi stick (sorry, all the talk of thanksgiving on another thread has me thinking of a typical Canadian feast which has to include cabbage rolls.) Does this mean I can be neither a troll chaser nor a parelli-ite? Shucks, I never get to have any fun.

[Scootie]

Gosh darn it, I went and stole a carrot stick, now you're all telling me I need either a rutabaga or a cabbage roll stick...no, wait, I mean a kohlrabi stick (sorry, all the talk of thanksgiving on another thread has me thinking of a typical Canadian feast which has to include cabbage rolls.) Does this mean I can be neither a troll chaser nor a parelli-ite? Shucks, I never get to have any fun.

You can learn a lot of things from this board. Today I learned that a kohlrabi stick is to make them majikal (works best on short, spotted, hairy beasties), while a rutabaga stick is for poking trolls. I already knew about carrot sticks. Basically a carrot stick is for changing money--from your hand to theirs.

Now, cabbage roll sticks, I have no idea. Are they used to for poking Canadian trolls?

[snaffle635]

After reading 9 pages, here's what I've concluded:

OP doesn't like mean, ugly horses. OP would choose horses in this order...

pretty and nice
ugly and nice or pretty and mean...not sure
ugly and mean

Well, ok then. I'm glad we got to the bottom of that.

[Twix04]

Haha...

Thou doth challenge me ;) I have photographic proof of Just My Style's assurtation that foals CAN be ugly...

We got this mare in exchange for an unpaid bill. She gave birth to THIS:

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/adriennebrant/ltc1.jpg

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

And NO, he was not septic... thanks for asking. Vet: "he just has... big joints" (emoticon for their reaction to said baby was would be much like the one used above)

I just took his yearling pictures - he's going to be a BIG BOY, and he might just end up being halfway attractive. His registered name will be "Coded" watch for him on the track, lol.

~Adrienne

Are you saying this baby is ugly?? I think he's adorable, I love baby horses. He's got a very cute face and eye.

[Percheron X]

AWWWWW, but I wanna poke the troll with my rutabaga troll catchin' stick *pouting*

Hey PercheronX, long time no talk. Unfortunatelly I don't have Storm anymore. I decided life was too short to keep a horse that was just waiting for a chance to hurt me (I know that sounds facecious, but believe me, it wasn't an easy decision). To the OP, he was an absolute stunner to look at, and the movement on him....
Now I've got an OTTB, and if I do say so myself, he's the entire package...I think I've been feeding him a bit much, he's getting fat:yes: . Yay!!! Fat thoroughbred (for some reason that spelling just doesn't look right -anywho) in winter!!!!!:cool: Hope things are going well with you - PM me sometime!

TOOT TOOT.... GIT THEM THERE COWS OFFN THE TRACK!!!

Need4speed, you have a PM. :)

[goeslikestink]

um-- i have been jumped on for no tack -- but i have a problem sometimes in the way i write things in the context its meant but people here know that as i told them - but

your wrong a bout hunter jumpers not being a draft x jumping A circuits

sea crest ,was one of the greatest irish draft xtb wasy out od sea spray and knockboy
decendant is cruising by sea crest and mullacrew
mulllacrew was by nordlys being a tb and big deal being irish draft
cruising has bred and been x with many sell francais

like kruising le fol his mother being bebe folle a sell francais that goes back to paladin des and egee and lines right back to ureial , ibrahim

my point as this is only one exsample i have and i do know top notch people that jump good horses on the A circuit

and those horses are x bred with irish draft and tbs all the top notch jumping horses that jump a the a Cirucit the cci the csi

are nearly all related in some way or another
through be it holstein , belgium kwpn tbs whaterver most can be resigidtered on the other breeds and associations beaucse they have it in there lines and if you talking gypsy vannner then last week in the horse and horse and hound as a sport horse was the first coloured horse to be registered with wetherbys the english throrugbred s as he met the creiteria


the point mate yes they can jump hunters jumpers classes and do
in eventing and show jumping at major events and riden by major top class riders and some peole like my freinds that were either at the top or are older that have been at the top still jump today given one or two that still compete in mids 6o i have the deepest respect for as they still can and do make the qualfictions rounds to get to hickstead and the south of england and pyecombe --
they a re the ones that a re major rounds for olypmpia
and horse of the year show in my area

so my point -- its not how you said it its how you say things
but what do i know -- i have spent my eniter life deciated to the horse
some are more graciously built than others but not ugly --

[goeslikestink]

oh and would like to mention that a cart horse -- ie can be
a tb pulling a cab
a coloured cob pulling a milk float
a pair of shire pulling drays
or a 4 in hand pulling an competition vechiles which can be
cleveland bays fresians welsh cob crosses etc


point is the way you say cart horse -- horse

cart to a driving person is an insult-- its always a trap or a vechicle

a horse that drives can be of any breed or type
so saying cart- horse-- is also an insult --

ugly - cart horse -- insults all three words

as all can be off any type breed or make of trap


ugly if you mean shows it uglyiness then thats ill mannered and ash to be addressed to put right -- its not the horse but the people that deal and handle and own said horse

[Coup De Des]

Moose.

[EponaRoan]

That's no horse - that's a moose!

(Bless 'em, I'm sure that they developed the way they did for a reason, but they're not the most aesthetically pleasing creatures in the world. :lol: )

[PonyMommy]

I think the biggest lesson you need to learn is about hard work and vision. You may never own a horse if you sit back and wait for someone to hand you a big check to buy the horse with perfect looks and ground manners. There are a ton of "diamonds in the rough" out there for dirt cheap that with patience, consistant training and love would become that perfect horse. The stories posted by "real horse people" who have enough vision to pick up the horses in need and put hard work and love into them should be a lesson you take from this thread. We have all heard the stories of horses destined for slaughter that were rescued and went on to become successful grand prix jumpers, foxhunters and beloved family members. Perhaps instead of channeling such negative energy into a rant about a horse being less then perfect you should find yourself a mentor to teach you how to properly bring along a prospect through love, training and patience! Then instead of having to post about "NOTHING" you could post wonderful updates of your very own horse as you blossom together into a team.

[Black Market Radio]

Well, I knew of a horse that had a head only a mother could love. But I loved that big ol' head. And he could MOVE. One of the most beautiful dressage horses I ever saw. When collected, you saw his grace and his talent. Seeing him in his stall, he looked like a plow horse. But he was sweet and would let me hug that big ol' head and love all over him. He loved to be scritched and rubbed and loved on, he wasn't the most beautiful horse, but he was noble.

My friend used to have one of the most beautiful Hanoverians I have ever seen. Chestnut with a flaxen mane and tail, four high whites and a beautiful blaze. He would float across the ground at the trot and his canter was to die for. That is, if he wasn't bolting, spooking or being a general ass! He wasn't friendly, affectionate and didn't have a work ethic at all. I'd take the first horse anyday over the second one.

[NOMIOMI1]

My friends horse I renamed MOngo because hes just huge all the way around there is not a small thing about him. His eyes are huge his head is and his feet are.... anyway I had never had the chance to watch this horse in action for a few months and had reserved my judgment even though his looks werent very appealing. When I saw him free jump 5ft and trot around with 6in of suspesion he became the most beautiful horse I had ever seen. His breeding was impecable and Now I still call him Mongo but I added the Magnificent. LOL

[Instant Karma]

I'm sorry, but the people I know who have mental retardation are able to see beyond the outter looks of a person/ animal and see the beauty on the inside. Many of them have learned this lesson by being condemned and teased themselves. Yet, they are some of the most beautiful people I have ever met. I know that they like me for who I am and not what I look like on the exterior. I think it's an insult to every person whom I have ever met with mental retardation to be compared to this outspoken OP who has not mastered the ability to have respect for others.


Now *THAT* deserves the award for the Most Intelligent, Tactful, Bitch Slap of the year. Serious!