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Aunt Esther
Aug. 11, 2006, 01:12 PM
Aunt Esther, national and international Purse Champion, is reminded by the thread started by Trixie's Mom that there is, sadly, a large number of ghastly snobs and bitches in the dressage world, who turn their noses up at the Non-Warmblood Dressage Horse.

Aunt Esther would like to remind these people that nowhere in any rule book does it say "Dressage Horses Must Be Warmbloods." Nowhere.

Aunt Esther looks forward to hearing about fellow BB members with breeds other that Warmbloods who are enjoying dressage. And hopes that they will include photos.

summerhorse
Aug. 11, 2006, 01:15 PM
Ah man, people would sure give me odd looks when I showed up at clinics on my appeeloosa...

knz66
Aug. 11, 2006, 01:27 PM
How about purchasing a horse advertised as half dutch/half TB only to get the papers from at that time AHSA and under breed, says "PINTO"

Hey, as long as they get the job done, make the owner smile, thats all that matters!

twnkltoz
Aug. 11, 2006, 01:27 PM
hee hee summerhorse, my trainer has an appy/tb cross who's an awesome mover (came out of the neighbor's pasture). When we show up at dressage shows (I have an arab), people must wear themselves out sneering! HAHA!!

I'll refrain from posting pics since I've posted so many of her already. :)

Daydream Believer
Aug. 11, 2006, 01:35 PM
Aunt Esther...this is a topic near and dear to my heart.

I breed a little known breed called Colonial Spanish Horses...more simply put they are Spanish Barbs...and I show my young stallion in dressage. He's only 5 this year and still showing training level but I have never had so much fun working with a horse.

Here are some recent pics for you:

http://www.forum.nchorsenews.com/uploads/Daydream%20Believer/Cisco%20show%208-6.JPG

http://www.forum.nchorsenews.com/uploads/Daydream%20Believer/Cisco%20Show%208-6-2.JPG

Please forgive my ghastly mistake of having both brown and black tack in these pics. I was test riding the saddle and thought it was forgivable since it was just a schooling show and I'm an ex eventer as well.

Thanks for using your impressive influence to educate people as to other less known breeds for dressage.

twnkltoz
Aug. 11, 2006, 01:39 PM
DB he's adorable!

Coreene
Aug. 11, 2006, 01:42 PM
Aunt Esther, I love you. Many, many, many years ago I did PSG on an older Appy mare. She had three tail hairs, looked somewhat like a bulldog QH, was 15.3hh and was one of the nicest horses I have ever ridden. Amazing mover. I get all warm and fuzzy remembering her. She lived to 37, and spent her final years at a therapeutic riding school. :sadsmile:

Edited to say I was reeeeeeeeeeeally thin back then and therefore it did not look like a solar eclipse when I sat on her.

atr
Aug. 11, 2006, 01:51 PM
Ah yes, no prejudice at all from the judges, but maybe just a little frisson from some other competitors when we score ahead of them...

Phooey.

I think you've all seen my pics to an embarrassing degree...

MeredithTX
Aug. 11, 2006, 02:04 PM
I show my 15.1hh Andalusian stallion with pride! We showed Training level during the spring, but he had been sitting in someone's pasture for several years until last September, so he's made amazing progress. This fall we will do a recognized show or two at TL and a few schooling shows at 1st. He is fabulous, and I couldn't care less what people think about him not being a warmblood! We qualified for IALHA Nationals at TL (not terribly hard to do, but I'm still proud), and if I get enough participants in my braiding clinic to raise the money, we will be there grinning from ear to ear!

I don't have any pics on my work computer of me riding him, but here he is with my friend on board:

http://www.legacyandalusians.com/stallionauction/user_images/3109435.jpg

http://www.legacyandalusians.com/stallionauction/user_images/5036081.jpg

Rival
Aug. 11, 2006, 02:09 PM
Dear Aunt Esther,
I will probably qualify under the "snobs and bitches" category as I am a firm believer that warmbloods are the best breed for dressage. However, being a poor person and a recreational breeder I aspire to compete (and win) against the pros on the cheapest horse I can possibly find. Therefor I can certainly understand peoples wishes to "bring it on" with other breeds and incourage them to do it.

Can I enquire as to what breed you ride?

slpeders
Aug. 11, 2006, 02:10 PM
well, since Aunt Esther asked....I'll force myself to post a picture or two...
I do hope that my black pad will be overlooked, as will the fact that my wither relief pad is NOT the same color as my pad. Oh heck....there are so many things about ME that I'd like you to overlook, just ignore me and look at the pretty pony....

This is my (insert loving adjective) mare, Katie -- an 18 yr old Appendix QH.
She's 3/4 QH and 1/4 TB, with Jet Deck and War Admiral in her not too distant past. Not that matters to me -- her great spirit and attitude are all I really care about!

MeredithTX -- he's GORGEOUS!
Does he want to meet my mare?!? ;)

http://www.lightsource-images.com/horse-show-gallery/LE0706/Pederson/pages/LE0706.Pederson.021.htm
http://www.lightsource-images.com/horse-show-gallery/LE0706/Pederson/pages/LE0706.Pederson.066.htm

atr
Aug. 11, 2006, 02:14 PM
slpederson, she's just lovely!

MeredithTX
Aug. 11, 2006, 02:17 PM
Splenders, he would LOVE to meet your mare. ;) He's a big fan of the ladies. She's a very pretty girl too. One of my favorite horses I've ever ridden was a gray Appendix mare.

Aunt Esther
Aug. 11, 2006, 02:25 PM
well, since Aunt Esther asked....I'll force myself to post a picture or two...
I do hope that my black pad will be overlooked, as will the fact that my wither relief pad is NOT the same color as my pad. Oh heck....there are so many things about ME that I'd like you to overlook, just ignore me and look at the pretty pony....

This is my (insert loving adjective) mare, Katie -- an 18 yr old Appendix QH.
She's 3/4 QH and 1/4 TB, with Jet Deck and War Admiral in her not too distant past. Not that matters to me -- her great spirit and attitude are all I really care about!

MeredithTX -- he's GORGEOUS!
Does he want to meet my mare?!? ;)

http://www.lightsource-images.com/horse-show-gallery/LE0706/Pederson/pages/LE0706.Pederson.021.htm
http://www.lightsource-images.com/horse-show-gallery/LE0706/Pederson/pages/LE0706.Pederson.066.htm
Aunt Esther, national and international Purse Champion, loves all the photos. And Aunt Esther, while a stickler for tradition, does agree that the black pad looks lovely on your beautiful mare.

Aunt Esther has many horses. She has warmbloods, which she loves. She has Thoroughbreds, which deep down will always be her favorite. Aunt Esther's favorite foxhunters are two Appendix geldings. And Aunt Esther loves ponies. And Norwegian Fjords. And Appaloosas. And very loud paints. And Anglo Arabs.

Aunt Esther is not a huge fan of purebred Arabians, but can appreciate what it is they have to offer.

Aunt Esther would dearly love to learn cutting, as it will also involve another horse buying expedition, but is having a hard time coming to terms with fringed chaps. She feels the same yen for properly learning to drive a four-in-hand team, and quivers with anticipation at not only that particular horse buying expedition, but of course purchasing all the necessary tack and clothing.

Aunt Esther once was given the opportunity to ride a large five gaited Saddlebred, and when she was racking it gave her an incredible frisson. Aunt Esther, however, is not interested in showing gaited horses, as she would have to wear too much make-up.

slpeders
Aug. 11, 2006, 02:25 PM
hmmmm....suppose 18 is late to become a first-time mommy?
Something to consider! She does seem to like the Andy boys....she broke down her stallguard at our horse expo one year to strut down the aisle of
Andy stallions -- there was one she didn't like, but two that she put on her "pretty face" for every time they went by.

And Aunt Esther -- I am so pleased you can tolerate the pad! I also share your desire to learn to drive. I had a chance to drive a pair of Belgian mares with a big wagon and can only IMAGINE how much fun driving a 4-in-hand might be!! (giddy at the mere thought...)

AKeventer
Aug. 11, 2006, 02:42 PM
Dear Aunt Esther-
Here is a picture of a breed that has been forgotten about in dressage. This is my Akhal Teke/ TB cross Dang and myself at our most recent horse trials.

http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?eventorder?photo=08JQ00T9060095&start=0&album=0&adjust=-1

http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?eventorder?photo=08JQ00T9060101&start=0&album=0&adjust=-1&d=0&pphoto=08JQ00T9060100

and for good measure- one of him jumping- because thats where we truly shine :)

http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?eventorder?photo=00FD00A7030004&start=0&album=0&adjust=-1&d=0&nphoto=00FD00A7030005

I am sure that you are familiar with the Akhal Teke horse Absent. I know that at one point he held the record for medal wins in dressage at the Olympics.

Please forgive the black gloves- but I am an eventer so I sort of have an excuse

sascha
Aug. 11, 2006, 02:47 PM
And very loud paints.
Well, since you asked and all, here you go.
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9186/levikz1.jpg

Canadian Starz
Aug. 11, 2006, 02:53 PM
:winkgrin: When going on the buying expidition Esther.....the "Old Canadian Starz" recomends scallops on your chaps, as fringes went out of vogue many moons ago. ( They give the Judge too much insite :cool: into how rough your horse is, and if you bounce in the saddle.) "Fringe is for Belly Dancing after hours. :yes:

Also something which really "grinds my gears"....:( ...What is your opinion and the ruling on Artificial Appliances.....such as False Tails in Dressage?:confused: ( I have seen MANY-MANY answers....Please help me out on this one if you would please.

DressageGeek "Ribbon Ho"
Aug. 11, 2006, 02:55 PM
A woman who has truly inspired me lives in the southwest MO area, and she trained a QH (I think he did WP and trails beforehand, and may even have worked cattle) to Prix St Georges. She often does not get the scores she deserves, since his natural movement, of course, is different from that of the warmbloods against which she competes. But to me, she exemplifies what is meant by dressage - training. The horse is a sweetheart, she is a sweetheart, they make a terrific pair.

I am actually amazed to realize that Aunt Esther and I do have something in common - a love of TBs.

And here is a picture of my lovely boy:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/475818374/1475839898055187328DkqYvm

DQWARAB
Aug. 11, 2006, 02:56 PM
I have to chime in on my purebred arabian. We show USDF shows and breed shows. My horse has earned me two rider awards from the USDF, two rider awards from the AHA, his Legion of Honor from the AHA, a Certification of Performance from the USDF and two East Coast Championships. My horse has scored in the 70's at training level and first level. We are currently working on second level and hope to show second in 2007.
I wish I knew how to post photo links as I have some really nice pictures of him.

Drive NJ
Aug. 11, 2006, 02:58 PM
Oh Aunt Esther

If shopping is what you like... You really MUST take up driving. Not only do you get to go horse shopping, there are the clothes and HATS (to go with your purses) and carriages too (not to mention the marathon gear for CDEs). Plus what other horse sport offers Picnic classes!

I think I can see what the problem is with the non-warmbloods though... They aren't tall enough to fit that tiny person on a giant horse picture that is the current image of dressage! Under 16 hand horses... what are you people thinking of!

Says me who spent a LOT of time looking for 15.2 or under horses just recently - no ma'am I WON'T be just as happy with your 17 h horse. I'd like one that doesn't require an oxygen mask to ride it. ;)

bip
Aug. 11, 2006, 03:00 PM
How about purchasing a horse advertised as half dutch/half TB only to get the papers from at that time AHSA and under breed, says "PINTO"



Did they mean Pennsylvania Dutch?

strollincash
Aug. 11, 2006, 03:06 PM
Here are some pics of my Appy boy, Strollin' Cash! I love my non traditional breed and would probably apt for another non-trad breed should I ever strike it rich and be able to buy another horse!
We especially have fun when we perform our Pas De Deux with a fellow Appy in our area! We definitely turn heads... (and just a slight brag but Cash and his partner Wolfie recently won the Pas De Deux class at Morven park in July! YEAH!) :D
I find it quite amusing too when people ask what breed Cash is... guess the long, full tail throws them off! :)
http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL971/4199897/8792479/153227177.jpg
http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL971/4199897/8792479/153227189.jpg

friesiandriver
Aug. 11, 2006, 03:10 PM
I ride a Dutch reg'd Friesian at training level. We have yet to embark on our show career but I love her! She has such a big trot and the best rocking horse canter. During my last lesson, I overheard some people debating whether or not they should have their legs shaved!!:lol: This is of course a sin in the Friesian world,so I couldn't even begin to contemplate doing such a thing. I know the registry classifies them as warmblood but of course they certainly are not your traditional warmblood breed. I had post pics for critique a while ago, I will try and post a link when I get home.

Jude
Aug. 11, 2006, 03:11 PM
Aunt Esther, would you be willing to share some pictures of yourself and your lovely dressage mounts? And your horses doing other disciplines, as well, if you would be so inclined.

Mr. Jude does love his xc, and has obliged to perform the requisite dressage in order to get to the cross country field, but I cannot say he "does" dressage. His best dressage, by far, is done on the jump field.

Our little Arab, though, will be quite the dressage star, I am sure of it. I can understand, Aunt Esther, why you are not so very fond of PB Arabs, but appreciate your consideration of the Arab enthusiats out there.

And Meredith, I am utterly drooling. How does he feel about chestnut Arabs with perfectly coiffed natural-length blonde manes?

kelo
Aug. 11, 2006, 03:15 PM
And hopes that they will include photos.

I've got a non-warmblood that's also not technically a dressage horse (reiner). However he's stepped in the dressage pen once (a schooling show)...I'd try showing it more if there were any shows around here! He's 15hh, has a draft-sized heart and the patience/tolerance of a saint :yes: I'll let you guess this one's breed :D

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g128/freckles101_2006/mattdressageAug06.jpg

(PS - if Aunt Esther could be so kind as to not mention any of my fashion faux pas -- I'm a western rider with a western horse! -- I'd be grateful :uhoh:)

bip
Aug. 11, 2006, 03:18 PM
Aunt Esther, I am concerned that your permissive attitude toward breeds will lead to the enjoyment of dressage by all.

Wild Oaks Farm
Aug. 11, 2006, 03:24 PM
Glad to know I am not the only one without a Warmblood...although mine kinda looks like a mini Warmblood when his mane is pulled. He's actually a Connemara pony.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v692/wildoaksfarm/?action=view&current=crop.jpg&refPage=100&imgAnch=imgAnch116

Please ignore the rider (me!) in this one:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v692/wildoaksfarm/?action=view&current=birdiejangaseamusshow070Small.jpg&refPage=100&imgAnch=imgAnch115

And just because he's so darn CUTE:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v692/wildoaksfarm/?action=view&current=mo029Medium.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch19

And here is my newest project...definitely thinking Grand Prix potential with this one:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v692/wildoaksfarm/?action=view&current=Harry004.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch15

MeredithTX
Aug. 11, 2006, 03:25 PM
And Meredith, I am utterly drooling. How does he feel about chestnut Arabs with perfectly coiffed natural-length blonde manes?

Trust me, he's not picky. :D A lot of people are big fans of the Hispano-Arabs!

Aunt Esther
Aug. 11, 2006, 03:42 PM
Aunt Esther, would you be willing to share some pictures of yourself and your lovely dressage mounts? And your horses doing other disciplines, as well, if you would be so inclined.

Mr. Jude does love his xc, and has obliged to perform the requisite dressage in order to get to the cross country field, but I cannot say he "does" dressage. His best dressage, by far, is done on the jump field.

Our little Arab, though, will be quite the dressage star, I am sure of it. I can understand, Aunt Esther, why you are not so very fond of PB Arabs, but appreciate your consideration of the Arab enthusiats out there.

And Meredith, I am utterly drooling. How does he feel about chestnut Arabs with perfectly coiffed natural-length blonde manes?
Aunt Esther, national and international Purse Champion, loves learning about her fellow BB members' horses and seeing the beautiful photos.

Aunt Esther feels she must clarify her position on Arabians a bit. Aunt Esther, while not a huge fan of them, likes nothing more than to see someone on an Arabian wipe the floor with people on giant Warmbloods. Aunt Esther always feels that the karma is particularly good on days like that. It makes the Arabian owner/rider smile, and it reminds the Warmblood people that they do not have an exclusive on blue ribbons.

Aunt Esther is quite fond of Anglo Arabs, and learned to jump years ago in Lanaken on a lovely French Anglo Arab.

Aunt Esther, who is a purist, reminds the naysayers that dressage, after all, means training. It does not mean Be A Bitch About What One Doesn't Like And Look Down One's Nose At Other People. And whether one "does" dressage on a 13.2hh mongrel pony cross or a $500,000 pushbutton FEI schoolmaster than one simply had to have, both are "doing" dressage. After all, Aunt Esther has always been about the horses.

Aunt Esther is also pleased to see top hats. USEF Rule DR120 says "a hunt cap or riding hat with a hard shell, derby or top hat." It does not include "but only if you 'earned' a top hat'." Aunt Esther has always felt that the attitude about "earning" one's top hat is ridiculous. One only lives once. And if the rider wants to wear a top hat, Aunt Esther feels they should have at it. After all, the majority of riders will never show FEI. Most will never show above first level. Aunt Esther feels that this silly and snobbish "earning" a top had attitude is for the birds. The same thing goes for derbies not being "in style." Aunt Esther says bugger that and wear whatever one most feels like wearing.

Of course, within the bounds of what is in good taste, of course.

Sadly, Aunt Esther cannot share photos of herself. For if Aunt Esther's true identity was to be revealed, Aunt Esther would forever be mobbed in public.

Elegante E
Aug. 11, 2006, 03:47 PM
Well, I'm an Andi fan. You go Meredith. Hope you make it to Nationals!!!!!

I don't have pics to post of my 11yo 3/4 andi (1/8 arab + 1/8 quarter horse = full andi looks). When I'm not ready to kill him, I'm having a blast with him as he does the harder elements of dressage for shits and giggles. Now that I've finally gotten my saddle issues under control, maybe I can meet Meredith at nationals some year.

Waterwitch
Aug. 11, 2006, 03:50 PM
Here's a young Irish Draught stallion I owned/raised/sold (and have a bad case of seller's remorse over). He's not under saddle yet in these pics but they show his movement:

Harkaway Lionhawk at 2 years of age (http://www.flyingharp.com/images/HawktrotInsp.jpg)

Hawk at 3 years old (http://www.flyingharp.com/images/Hawk-3%20copy.jpg)

Gallop~on~Grant
Aug. 11, 2006, 03:51 PM
I just had to join in the fun!

Here is Aragon and his wonderful baby "custom" baby blue pad! He is a 3 year old Section D Welsh Cob!

Aunt Esther, national and international Purse Champion, please know that this pad is for schooling purposes, as is the black CC saddle. We were preparing for a cavelleti lesson... We do like to look smart for our instructor! Do I get points for that?

http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m269/surfyre/?action=view&current=prettyclothes.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1

doccer
Aug. 11, 2006, 03:58 PM
Just because i'm a sucker *jk*. Aunt Esther.... this is my stb/belgian (well from an educated guess) about 16 y/o (again, an educated guess). I know there are some attire faux paus.... i am searching for a good pair of white gloves ;) -- and i will forever tape his braids :) BUT, i loff my WHITE show pad (homemade prize for grand champion sr dressage at a little recognized show last year ;) )

http://groups.msn.com/CAROLnDOCCER/c...oto&PhotoID=24 (http://groups.msn.com/CAROLnDOCCER/carolndoccer2006.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=24)

I'm putting the link to a prior post where i have 4 pics. I love this horse to death :sadsmile: And he does quite well, getting better every ride. All of these pics are in first level.

http://praha.planetsg.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=53359 -- the 'concentrating pic in post 2, is us before our class.

PS - yes he is 'dahling' but he's also a good boy :yes: :D Thanks :)

MeredithTX
Aug. 11, 2006, 04:07 PM
Gallop on Grant - where do you ride? That arena looks somehow familiar...

Elegane E - whether or not I ride at Nationals this year, I will still be there to watch and swoon over all the beautiful Andis. I look forward to seeing you and your boy there sometime!

Melyni
Aug. 11, 2006, 04:07 PM
Ah man, people would sure give me odd looks when I showed up at clinics on my appeeloosa...


Wait a minnit, i resemble that remark!

I have a Danish Knabstrupper, in fact I have several, and we show proudly, in all disciplines!
but I am considering changing Xavoys name to "I-am-not-an-Appaloosa".

SPOTS RULE man!

You can see all the spotties at
www.knabstruppers4usa.com

carolprudm
Aug. 11, 2006, 04:08 PM
Here's a young Irish Draught stallion I owned/raised/sold (and have a bad case of seller's remorse over). He's not under saddle yet in these pics but they show his movement:

Harkaway Lionhawk at 2 years of age (http://www.flyingharp.com/images/HawktrotInsp.jpg)

Hawk at 3 years old (http://www.flyingharp.com/images/Hawk-3%20copy.jpg)
Liz, he's on my list of stallions to consider for Miss Virginia. This will be her only foal and it has to be extra special :)

Ignore the fashion and rider form fo paws and check out these knees! This pic was obviously taken a looooonnnnngggg time ago. We used to show up at a horse trial and people would say "You're not going to event HIM are you?"
http://www.msnusers.com/critterpictures/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=5

He was a BLAST to ride and usually placed in dressage also. I put him down at age 37, 3 years ago.

iheartponies
Aug. 11, 2006, 04:11 PM
Aunt Esther it is so nice to hear somebody acknowledge the Norwegian Fjord. I just started mine schooling training level and he loves it. We definately have some warmblood competition but he's a great pony.:)

Gallop~on~Grant
Aug. 11, 2006, 04:14 PM
Meredith, I ride at Highgate. Do you know it?

I will be at Nationals keeping EleganteE company! Taking her to Joe T's for pitchers of margaritas! ;)

MeredithTX
Aug. 11, 2006, 04:21 PM
Hmmm... No, I am not familiar with Highgate. Your indoor arena just looks very much like the one from my childhood barn in Plano.

Wild Oaks Farm
Aug. 11, 2006, 04:24 PM
Gallop-on-Grant, I think I am close to you! I live in Kemp but I am hauling into Cornerstone Stables in Rockwall/Heath for lessons. Your horse is beeee-u-tiful! Maybe I will see you at some shows (Las Colinas Sept. 15-17?).

Melyni...I want Frej! I love him! He kinda reminds me of this pony I used to have (well, the chestunut spots part :lol: ):

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v692/wildoaksfarm/?action=view&current=jonny000.jpg&refPage=120&imgAnch=imgAnch125

Aunt Esther, thank you for reminding us all that you do not need a Warmblood to participate in this sport!

Sandy M
Aug. 11, 2006, 04:26 PM
Here are some pics of my Appy boy, Strollin' Cash! I love my non traditional breed and would probably apt for another non-trad breed should I ever strike it rich and be able to buy another horse!
We especially have fun when we perform our Pas De Deux with a fellow Appy in our area! We definitely turn heads... (and just a slight brag but Cash and his partner Wolfie recently won the Pas De Deux class at Morven park in July! YEAH!) :D
I find it quite amusing too when people ask what breed Cash is... guess the long, full tail throws them off! :)
http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL971/4199897/8792479/153227177.jpg
http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL971/4199897/8792479/153227189.jpg


Nice boy. Do you event him? I used to have one colored like him, i.e., roan, similar conformation and head, but with BIG spots (16.3 h.h. too). As for tails... well, look at my profile pic. ROFLOL (I've had some people ask if he were SWB/App. Nope. Traditional App/TB/QH mix).

I am on a leisurely horse hunt right now, since I think my guy may be headed for trail horse/pasture potato retirement. My budget is limited, which is even more reason to look for one of my spottie boys/girls - more horse for the money! I did read a book once, though, that said Apps (NOT Quarterloosas), being truly more closely descended from Spanish lines, ARE warmbloods - they just aren't EUROPEAN WBs. QHs, despite their TB derivation, as classed as "cold bloods."

summerhorse
Aug. 11, 2006, 04:27 PM
hee hee summerhorse, my trainer has an appy/tb cross who's an awesome mover (came out of the neighbor's pasture). When we show up at dressage shows (I have an arab), people must wear themselves out sneering! HAHA!!

I'll refrain from posting pics since I've posted so many of her already. :)

LOL didn't anyone tell them their faces will freeze that way?

I can't post pictures but here's a link. Last show. (man that was a long time ago...) http://community.webshots.com/photo/261014155/1262218744030219937ofKlcL

He wasn't much to look at conformationally wise but man could he just FLOAT.

Windriderr
Aug. 11, 2006, 04:29 PM
Oh pleassseeee look at my handsome 1/2 arab at one of our first shows in Santa Barbara (gloves have been updated to white by now) :winkgrin:

http://tinyurl.com/jtkm9

I just loff him!!

summerhorse
Aug. 11, 2006, 04:32 PM
WOW, he's a beauty!

Windriderr
Aug. 11, 2006, 04:36 PM
Thank you, and if you dare,... take a look at our LADY GODIVA dressage costume show from last year... not sure what Aunt Esther will think of this, it just might send her to depths far beyond what hospitality tent could repair....:eek: Yup, this is what is going on in California!!! :winkgrin:

http://tinyurl.com/l2cgg

AndalusianMom
Aug. 11, 2006, 04:41 PM
:) It's PRE all the way! I have 3, silver, dapple gray, and black. Their size and temperament suit me. If I could post pics, I would, but alas...:no:

Elegante E
Aug. 11, 2006, 04:47 PM
Ok, figured out how to post a pic and finally found one that doesn't make my boy or me look hefty - don't know why but the camera makes his neck look short and fat when it's really quite noble :)

http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n200/LolosSombra/Horses/?action=view&current=4efb08fb.jpg&slideshow=paused&interval=3

kmw2707
Aug. 11, 2006, 04:52 PM
Another picture for you all to check out of a non-traditional. My Anglo Arab mare.

http://www.geocities.com/impulsestables/Tia.html?1155329692073

FlightCheck
Aug. 11, 2006, 05:02 PM
AKeventer, I know who you are!

I have had the privilege of announcing the wondrous Dang a few times - a lovely horse with a great name.

My apologies to Aunt Esther for interrupting this thread.

Gallop~on~Grant
Aug. 11, 2006, 05:12 PM
Yes, Wild Oaks, we are close! Thank you! And yours are all so pretty too! I want a Mini Donk!

Maybe next year for sure! He is just learning canter!

lovemyrobin
Aug. 11, 2006, 05:13 PM
Well I do have to join this thread. My lovely non-warmblood has been to 2 Dressage shows in her life (me too) Her 2nd show she came in 1st in both Intro A & B with a 64.5 and 65. She was up against a Ferro bred gelding, a recently imported Swedish WB and several other very nice horses. She's also a small horse (strike 2) She is a Connemara/TB and I wouldn't trade her for any Warmblood. We are getting ready for Training level at our next show this month.

twnkltoz
Aug. 11, 2006, 05:16 PM
At horse expo this year, I saw some GORGEOUS Andi's, and it got me to thinking about breeding my mare. I was drooling over this big bay with long wavy hair....mmmmmmmm......

DressageGeek "Ribbon Ho"
Aug. 11, 2006, 05:22 PM
Aunt Esther it is so nice to hear somebody acknowledge the Norwegian Fjord. I just started mine schooling training level and he loves it. We definately have some warmblood competition but he's a great pony.:)

I scribed this spring at a schooling show where a woman riding a Norwegian Fjord wiped the rest of the class...including a lovely moving WB gelding ridden by a young boy who is enthusiastic but very much the beginner and in this case, quite overhorsed. She won because her horse was a solid steady eddie. And so adorable.

dalpal
Aug. 11, 2006, 05:24 PM
Well, I own three horses....Han/Tb, Han/Qtr and English Tb (1/4 Han)..and while I love all three dearly...at 5'4 and petite...I miss my arabians dearly...they were the most sane, safe, fun horses that I Have ever owned and I have really considering selling my horses and getting an arab...problem is the emotinal attachment...Han/TB is 16'3 English Tb is 16.3 and the Han/Qtr is the best size right around 16 hands...but she isn't ready to ride, as she needs some rehab for an injury that we think happened to her with the original owner.

I LUV ARABIANS and Half Arabians....and the ones who are built to really do dressage just take my breath away.

R D Lite
Aug. 11, 2006, 06:01 PM
I have an OTTB who does dressage with me (although he occasionally makes it clear that dressage would be more fun with fewer 20-meter circles and more galloping). He has a great work ethic, plenty of go, and is a joy to ride. I will always be a Thoroughbred fan.

He has been sick this year and we haven't been able to show, but we're still training, when he's up to it. This is him at a small schooling show a year ago. Please excuse the mismatched tack, poorly-fitting huntseat clothes, and ribboned:eek: saddle pad--I had to borrow a lot of stuff on short notice! All I can say in my defense is that most people at the show were in T-shirts. :no:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/314763655/1537588794067972498drEWSz

atr
Aug. 11, 2006, 06:04 PM
Ha, Melyni! I get the opposite! Lots of people ask me if my appy is "one of those Danish horses."

Around here, which you would think would be prime appy country, they seem to expect all appies to be kinda stringy looking, I think. Which when I look at the other appys posted on here is obviously completely not the case!

Sakura
Aug. 11, 2006, 06:30 PM
Dear Aunt Esther,

Here are a couple of pics of my Arabian stallion at our first show together (I'm in the derby, my trainer is in the hunt cap). I know I have committed a few fashion faux pas, please forgive me... I now know that black gloves are bad... and the black pad with white fleece was my trainer's idea... I know , I know... I will never bend to pressure again. However, I will have to fight you over the pre-tied stock tie... unless someone here can point me in the direction of a web site with instructions on how to tie one my self... and they have to be idiot proof!

Please, rethink your position on purebred Arabians... come ride my guy... that will be all it would take to kindle a flame for the breed :D.

(http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/?action=view&current=ShenandoahClassicStrongCanter.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch3)canter (http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/?action=view&current=ShenandoahClassicStrongCanter.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch3)

hi! (http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/?action=view&current=Shenandoah06.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch5)


(http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/?action=view&current=Shenandoah06.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch5)

Aunt Esther
Aug. 11, 2006, 06:44 PM
Dear Aunt Esther,

Her eare a couple of pics of my Arabian stallion at our first show together (I'm in the derby, my trainer is in the hunt cap). I know I have committed a few fashion faux pas, please forgive me... I now know that black gloves are bad... and the black pad with white fleece was my trainer's idea... I know , I know... I will never bend to pressure again. However, I will have to fight you over the pre-tied stock tie... unless someone here can point me in the direction of a web site with instructions on how to tie one my self... and they have to be idiot proof!

Please, rethink your position on purebred Arabians... come ride my guy... that will be all it would take to kindle a flame for the breed :D.

(http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/?action=view&current=ShenandoahClassicStrongCanter.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch3)canter (http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/?action=view&current=ShenandoahClassicStrongCanter.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch3)

hi! (http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/?action=view&current=Shenandoah06.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch5)


(http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/?action=view&current=Shenandoah06.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch5)Aunt Esther, national and international Purse Champion, thinks your stallion is breathtaking.

Aunt Esther is quite tall and, consequently, finds that she is too tall for most Arabians. But Aunt Esther does point out that she is quite fond of Anglo Arabs, so for Arabian fans, you have won half the battle with Aunt Esther. ;)

Knothead
Aug. 11, 2006, 07:08 PM
I think everyone would agree when I say "Thank God for Aunt Esther!" Too bad most judges don't share the same beliefs.
I, myself, own and ride a crop out (breeding stock) paint. The funny thing is - no one can ever figure out what he is and the most guessed guess is Morgan.
I refuse to give up on my boy. He's short (15.1), stocky, thick-necked, etc. but I know he can do it and do it well, even if the judges might not think so. Although I have been fortunate enough to receive decent comments most of the time (favorites: "expressive!" "willing and capable" "wonderful horse").
Alas, I do not own a digital camera and cannot post a pic.
I love going to a trainer or clinic who says "Oh! My first FEI horse was a Quarter Horse (or Paint)."

tollertwins
Aug. 11, 2006, 07:10 PM
14.3 ex-barrel horse - 3/4 QH and 1/4 TB - Three Bars on the QH side - Champagne Woman and Raise a Native on the TB end - He's retired.

(Aunt Esther - PLEASE dont' go to the hospitality tent over these pictures. My bud and I didn't show - and the Texas summer is WAY too hot to get your 'fancy duds' all icky just schooling).

http://www.quarterhorsedressage.com/dressage/index.php?module=photoalbum&PHPWS_Album_id=1&PHPWS_Photo_op=view&PHPWS_Photo_id=12

Now I have a 15.1 Andy/QH cross who is built like a freaking TANK....If I ever get her sound she will be my new pard.

I LOVE the Spanish Barb pics!!!!

atr
Aug. 11, 2006, 07:11 PM
Actually, Knothead, I think most judges DO share Aunt Esther's beliefs. A nice appropriate horse is a nice appropriate horse.

Charisma
Aug. 11, 2006, 07:21 PM
I have the pleasure of owning a Quarter Horse, and he is awesome. He is great at dressage and loves the work. People usually think he is a TB, but he is a big ole QH from a World Champion Halter horse no less.

We are showing 1st level this year and holding our own. I found that judges are very fair to us and I believe we get our fair shot in the ring because we have a good classical education and training, and that is what it is all about!

Peggy
Aug. 11, 2006, 07:24 PM
Cool (http://homepage.smc.edu/kline_peggy/Images/peggy_cool.gif) was a TB that I showed thru 4th level and schooled thru about I2, all in a fat hollow-mouth snaffle.

Xerintha
Aug. 11, 2006, 07:31 PM
How about a Pinto Missouri Foxtrotter? :) My boy is 10 and I've had him for 9 months now. I don't have many pictures but here are a couple. The first one isn't me riding.

http://xerintha.com/horsepics/IsaiahPam5.JPG

http://xerintha.com/horsepics/Zayzayface.jpg

Jmc
Aug. 11, 2006, 07:32 PM
My non-warmblood is a TB. I am so pleased to hear that Aunt Esther appreciates them!

Slewpy at 3 (http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k311/Slewpy/?action=view&current=169d1a7b.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch2)
Slewpy at 4 (http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k311/Slewpy/?action=view&current=bbb7c132.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1)

cuatx55
Aug. 11, 2006, 07:33 PM
Lovely horses everyone! How do I post a pic? Windriderr-nice horse! What's the other 1/2?

crewgirl34
Aug. 11, 2006, 07:40 PM
I was reading the book, "Improve Your Riding" from a German author circa 1974. For Dressage he writes, "The ideal horse for dressage is the well-bred thoroughbred or three-quarter bred, in which beauty and natural impulsion abound, provided always that there are no faults of gait." My how times have changed! And I have to say Aunt Esther, you have amazing control, you can bring up the extremely volatile subject of WB vs. other, and have kept it under control. You're my hero!

Event4Life
Aug. 11, 2006, 07:56 PM
When I read the title I thought Aunt Esther was going to be against all non warmbloods in dressage...Sorry Aunt Esther!

Here are my two lovely ponies:

1) 6 year old Thoroughbred Mare, Cassidy: http://community.webshots.com/photo/552890441/2765929370075174290DDfqQM Please excuse the saddle/saddle pad, it's a reactor pannel and I can't put a square pad underneath it. She's difficult to fit and I don't have the budget as of now for a custom fit dressage saddle. This was a clinic, btw, hence my attire. I should have gotten someone to wipe my boots before I went in, though...oops.

2) 17 year old(at the time) Quarter Horse gelding, Stanley:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/139572868/1240245119055358076DYgjJK

(sorry Aunt Esther, I like my black gloves...)

Melyni
Aug. 11, 2006, 08:38 PM
Ha, Melyni! I get the opposite! Lots of people ask me if my appy is "one of those Danish horses."

Around here, which you would think would be prime appy country, they seem to expect all appies to be kinda stringy looking, I think. Which when I look at the other appys posted on here is obviously completely not the case!


Blimey, where are you that they have heard of them! Must be a seriously enlightened part of the world!

MW

Melyni
Aug. 11, 2006, 08:44 PM
[QUOTE=Wild Oaks Farm]
Melyni...I want Frej! I love him! He kinda reminds me of this pony I used to have (well, the chestunut spots part :lol: ):[QUOTE]

What a cute pony!
Frej is quite a character, and a real loverboy.
If you are ever in Virginia come and visit him.
MW

Sakura
Aug. 11, 2006, 09:24 PM
Aunt Esther, national and international Purse Champion, thinks your stallion is breathtaking.

Aunt Esther is quite tall and, consequently, finds that she is too tall for most Arabians. But Aunt Esther does point out that she is quite fond of Anglo Arabs, so for Arabian fans, you have won half the battle with Aunt Esther. ;)


Aunt Esther,

Thank you! You have single handedly made my day :).

Sancudo
Aug. 11, 2006, 10:03 PM
When I was younger I showed a gorgeous unregistered Buckskin in dressage with a lot of sucess at training level and did get some predjudice from judges at times.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/104461756/1104989122052233817DIcMJs#

Now I have a 4 year old Oklahoma bred OTTB who is winning everything. The judges adore him, he averages upper sixties to low seventies at Training level, and consistantly gets 8s on gaits.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b249/DaylightComes/65471708-S.jpg

fullmoon fever
Aug. 11, 2006, 10:17 PM
16.2hh, 16 yr. old Appaloosa gelding

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/jazzyrock/Indy/dressage.jpg

We get good scores and really nice comments from the judges. :D

Tomorrow I can add something else about him, but for now it's a secret. ;)

CANTEREOIN
Aug. 11, 2006, 10:27 PM
This is going to be slightly controversial. My horse is 3/4ths thoroughbred (technically, her dad is a Dutch Warmblood but his dad was a DW and his mom was a DW approved TB). Her mother was a warmblood looking and moving TB. She's a registered Oldenburg... but really, is this a classic warmblood or a TB with just a hint of DW.

Really, I just wanted to post her picture. And, I think the black pad brings out the white... the white pad makes her coat look yellowed.

Painted Wings
Aug. 11, 2006, 10:44 PM
He's light to the hand and just a pleasure to ride even though he's a brat.

frwdndrnd
Aug. 11, 2006, 11:02 PM
Dearest Aunt Esther,

Although I have been reading your most enlightening offerings over the past month or so, I have only now been inspired to come out of the closet, so to speak, to introduce my beloved Appendix QH mare, Annahi, to the eyes of the world. She is in fact 3/4 TB, going back to Impressive on top and to Bold Ruler on bottom.

She was a lovely girl in the western disciplines, but dressage is her true love and where she shines the most. Here we were doing 2nd level. We fared very well last year although we are not quite "done" with 2nd level.

I am enjoying this thread! :yes:

http://www.draygonfynedesign.ca/Caledon%20Cadora%20July%2023/pages/IMG_5272.html

http://www.draygonfynedesign.ca/Caledon%20Cadora%20July%2023/pages/IMG_5297.html

CurlyLindsay
Aug. 11, 2006, 11:18 PM
She's lovely frwdndrnd!


Of course Aunt Ester, international and national purse champion has already been too kind in enduring my picture plastering ;) but that's never stopped me before...

I do dressage with an American Bashkir Curly. Hey, if you can't draw attention with great riding, you should at least have an attention catching mount, right?

http://www.curlyfarm.com/photos/springgallery/images/2006%20katy%20days%20parade%202.jpg

http://www.curlyfarm.com/photos/may2/images/IMG_6890.jpg

And of course... it's so nice to have a horse that practices in their free time.... http://www.curlyfarm.com/photos/txgallery/images/IMG_3802.jpg

audgesmom
Aug. 11, 2006, 11:48 PM
Iheart...I ride a haffie and love ponies too.....wouldn't ride anything else really...Audge was totally little kid 4h when I met him....we are flirting with breaking the first level barrier this fall....I remember when I test rode him after a LONG search for the perfect pony to share with my then 11 year old daughter....I looked back at the owner and my trainer once mounted and yelled "does my butt look big?" they said no so I bought him...

Aunt E...SOOOOO relieved to know that you appreciate those who are not 16+ and of the wb type....

atr
Aug. 12, 2006, 12:33 AM
Melyni, I'm actually in darkest Utah, believe it or not, but we don't have a lot to do on those long winter evenings except educate ourselves :)

And I'd just liek to say that I'm not knocking warmbloods at all. A nice old-fashioned Dutch Warmblood with plenty of bone and substance, a good mind and nice movement would be pretty high up on my list of horses I would love to own.. Now if they only allowed spots...

fivesocks
Aug. 12, 2006, 12:43 AM
Oooo, my pony fits the non-wb category! He is a Welsh/Trottingbred (Trottingbred = harness racing pony made up of Standardbred crossed with Shetland/Hackney/Welsh)

Pony is 13.3 or 14hh. Will never be a 72% scorer - but on a good day he can certainly hold his own against the big guys.

I'm only 5'1 (and not getting any taller) and I think I would like to stick with ponies. Even if I had the money to get a nice WB, I'd probably prefer to invest in a REALLY nice pony. I just don't gravitate towards WBs for some reason...and it has nothing to do with their size and my size.

My pony: http://image08.webshots.com/8/6/75/61/118667561NZVcbM_ph.jpg

And I won't apologize for the white tape braids. I think they accent his stockings nicely. Please don't hate me Aunt Esther. I will admit that he's not quite as dark as he looks in the pic, funny lighting I guess.

lindac
Aug. 12, 2006, 09:11 AM
Thank You for this thread Aunt Esther!

My 8 year old Prix St. Georges Dressage horse is an American Saddlebred.

He has done very well this year against mostly Warmbloods. In fact, he has won his last 3 PSG classes with scores of 65.5%, 67.5%, and 68.75%.

http://americansaddlebreddressage.com/images/676_HarryKDAtrot4.jpg

http://cfhdressage.com/images/Chrissa_usdf_0021.jpg

Knothead
Aug. 12, 2006, 09:39 AM
Actually, Knothead, I think most judges DO share Aunt Esther's beliefs. A nice appropriate horse is a nice appropriate horse.
I guess I'm feeling a little bitter -- at a recent SCHOOLING show the judge said to me, "Well, he's not a great mover - not that he's a terrible mover -- but he's no '9'." How many 9 movers are out there besides the Warmbloody types? I just thought it was an inappropriate comment and thought to myself "Here we go -- he's not a 17hh Warmblood with big movement - so we'll score low" even though it should be horse/rider combination and ability to do the test. *sigh* I guess the human subjectiveness factor will always be a part of it.

Lgd1
Aug. 12, 2006, 09:54 AM
My older two are very 'non-traditional'

Peri, 16hh mare, 7/8 TB (1/8 New Forest Pony) competed up to Inter I level, I'm hoping she comes back from her maternity leave well and make it to at least Inter II.

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1500

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1501

Tavia, 15.2½hh mare, Russian Orlov x (so strictly a WB, but VERY untypical)

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1501

I must confess to now having a registered WB albeit with a big chunk of TB as her Mum is Peri.
Belle, my homebred KWPN baby.

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=15700

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=15695

fourhorses
Aug. 12, 2006, 10:14 AM
I don't really know the story with Aunt Esther, but this is one great post! I really think it's great to find so many people who aren't snobs with horses after all. I just have to add a story here:

I know a lady with a warmblood who's been snubbed by some of the local "dressage ladies" -- because he's not traditional! He's Canadian sport horse breeding but is 3/4 Hanoverian and 1/4 TB; all he's got is a breeding certificate but the lady who owns him is far from a breed snob (she's ridden western horses, ponies, Arabs and TBs, and would probably not turn her nose up at anything if it was nice) and made the comment that he's a gelding and she only wants a horse she can enjoy so why pay big bucks for a brand on his butt. And he is a very sweet horse with nice gaits, a good jump, plus he's very pretty and she did get him at a very good price. She's been told that it's a pity she can't afford a real warmblood, that it's too bad she had to settle for a cross as the TBs and crosses just don't have the movement to be competitive in dressage -- she was told this as an arguement for why all people who are seriously "into" dressage need a proper warmblood, even for training level as only the warmbloods really come through their backs and track up properly :confused: so therefore they should score higher even if they make mistakes:confused: :confused: . (I loved her comments on that _-"well, I guess I'll just have to switch back to hunt seat or do eventing with him then"), and to top it off when she first bought her boy a lady who breeds unregistered, unapproved "warmbloods" offhand asked her if he was branded. When informed that no, her gelding did not have a brand, this lady looked at her, stuck her nose in the air, and told her (this is word for word) "oh, that's too bad -- I think they look so much more distinctive when they actually GET a brand, don't you?" I loved her reply to that one too: "well, I suppose I could get someone to make a brand for me. I know none of my horses are distinctive but it would be terrible to have an illegitimate horse." And this lady takes a lot of static for being a stickler because she will be blunt if you ask her for an opinion about your horse or your riding -- in fact I know some of the same people have accused her of being a breeding snob.HA Ha! Go figure!

atr
Aug. 12, 2006, 12:29 PM
Yes but, Knothead, how many "9" movers are there out there anyway? Even in the warmblood world? Especially owned and ridden by amateurs? You happily admit your no doubt very nice horse has some conformational shortcomings, so why would you expect him to score very high on movement?

My appy usually scores 7s and the ocassional 8 on gaits. If he were a 9 or a 10, no doubt someone would have left his nuts on and he wouldn't be mine :)

I wouldn't let that make you bitter. It's only one part of the whole picture anyway, especially for us amateur riders.

J Lav
Aug. 12, 2006, 12:55 PM
Hi Everyone. Newbie here though I've been lurking a while. Had to join in with this thread though. My first serious dressage horse was a New Forest/TB cross who 3 day evented to advanced levels then went PSG dressage. I then rode a Suffolk Punch/TB cross, who cost £2k as a 4 year old, through the levels to Inter1 including qualifying for all his regional finals and going to the National championships and my current number 1 ride is a piebald horse of very mixed breeding who is established at 3rd level and training towards PSG. The one thing all these horses have had in common is their wonderful trainability and a real keeness to work with you which to my mind easily makes up for what they might lack in movement and natural talent.
I'm lucky enough at the moment to also have the ride on a very talented, purpose bred KWPN mare who finds it all so easy but nothing beats the satisfaction of beating the expensive warmbloods on my relatively cheap non-warmblood horses. :) :)

nhwr
Aug. 12, 2006, 12:56 PM
I guess I'm feeling a little bitter -- at a recent SCHOOLING show the judge said to me, "Well, he's not a great mover - not that he's a terrible mover -- but he's no '9'." How many 9 movers are out there besides the Warmbloody types? I just thought it was an inappropriate comment and thought to myself "Here we go -- he's not a 17hh Warmblood with big movement - so we'll score low" even though it should be horse/rider combination and ability to do the test. *sigh*
I am with AE here. TBs have a special place in my heart, even though I now own (and breed a little bit) warmbloods. I have owned several TBs that were very successful in dressage. And I do love to see a non WB cleanup at shows too.

Knothead's post demonstrates a basic misconception about competitive dressage. Competitive dressage is not about the horse/rider combination and ability to do the test. Movement matters a lot. The better mover will always win, all other things being equal. The better mover should always win. But movement isn't determined by breed. There are plenty of crappy moving WBs out there. And there fabulous moving horses of other breeds too.

Goodyfourshoes!
Aug. 12, 2006, 01:29 PM
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[r.oo and l.ulu]
Aug. 12, 2006, 01:48 PM
Aunt Esther is also pleased to see top hats. USEF Rule DR120 says "a hunt cap or riding hat with a hard shell, derby or top hat." It does not include "but only if you 'earned' a top hat'." Aunt Esther has always felt that the attitude about "earning" one's top hat is ridiculous. One only lives once. And if the rider wants to wear a top hat, Aunt Esther feels they should have at it. After all, the majority of riders will never show FEI. Most will never show above first level. Aunt Esther feels that this silly and snobbish "earning" a top had attitude is for the birds. The same thing goes for derbies not being "in style." Aunt Esther says bugger that and wear whatever one most feels like wearing.


[gasp]

Did I read this correctly?

Meaning, my mare and I at training level can wear a top hat (me, not her)? Part of the reason I wanted to do dressage so much was because of the top hats and now I might be actually able to wear one myself?

RoyalTRider
Aug. 12, 2006, 02:15 PM
I would include a photo of my non-Warmblood doing dressage but they would change the rulebook to warmbloods only. :lol:

Isaline
Aug. 12, 2006, 03:22 PM
My arabian gelding :

http://www.bellapix.com/user/global/ACCOUNTS/USER42a3e25ad7488/images/44b417169594d.jpg

http://www.bellapix.com/user/global/ACCOUNTS/USER42a3e25ad7488/images/44b416d831681.jpg

http://www.bellapix.com/user/global/ACCOUNTS/USER42a3e25ad7488/images/44b416964beff.jpg

http://www.bellapix.com/user/global/ACCOUNTS/USER42a3e25ad7488/images/44b416e4893af.jpg

He is the most amazing little horse. I have yet to know a warmblood that is as versatile or challenging yet safe as my arabian.

Bluesy
Aug. 12, 2006, 05:01 PM
Thank you for this thread Aunt E, and thanks to those of you who have posted pictures of your lovely ponies.

I'm not a dressage rider, but have always been interested in it, and I think I most definatley will take dressage lessons next summer along with my hunter lessons.

Here's a picture of my Bluesy, OTTB and I earlier this year
http://community.webshots.com/photo/67917492/2790954840044994600PSroee

I look horrible since I hadn't had any lessons for months, owing that it was winter and trainer has an outdoor arena :o :uhoh:

Picture is blurry since it was taken from a video

So if I'm in the market for a dressage saddle....what do you guys recommend? What do you think of the Bates Isabell? I have a Caprilli CC (jumping saddle) and really like it - how does the Isabell compare for fit and comfort?

Ja Da Dee
Aug. 12, 2006, 05:26 PM
Here's my Breed Stock Paint. He's TB on the sire side (Bold Ruler) and Painted Robin on the damn side. We event so please excuse the black gloves and any other fashion oops.

He's an awesome horse, worth his weight in gold to me.

http://www.parazz.com/photos/43187504085_4254.jpg

http://www.parazz.com/photos/77189611996_4254.jpg

http://home.mchsi.com/~julip1011/wsb/media/74401/site1230.jpg

tbgurl
Aug. 12, 2006, 07:22 PM
I feel a little left out, so I'm going to post about my non-WB. We haven't competed in years, but my 16 hand TB cross grade mare and I used to clean up at Training and First level at recognized shows. I really don't know what she's crossed with...probably QH, maybe Appy...

Here are pics:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/honeybee1999/cleodressage_laec.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/honeybee1999/cleodressage_flintridge.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/honeybee1999/cleodressage_thepaddock.jpg

There are lots of things wrong with those pictures, but they're the only ones that I have saved on the computer. Yes, black gloves, but I was always told to wear black gloves unless my hands were perfect, and I never felt that my hands were up to those standards.

So anyway we went to the CDS Junior Championships twice and did fairly well, and our highest score together was a 71 at First level. I never really felt like the judges discriminated against us because she wasn't a warmblood, and I readily admit she is not a great mover; she usually got 6s for gaits, occasionally a 7.

We would have continued to Second and maybe Third level if I hadn't had to quit competing so I could put myself through college.

Peggy
Aug. 12, 2006, 08:11 PM
Cool, the TB I wrote about earlier in this thread, did get a 9 on gaits (once) and a number of 8's. The test on which he scored the 9 on gaits also featured three 10's. He won an open 1st level class at Del Mar with 20+ horses in it.

fivesocks
Aug. 12, 2006, 09:01 PM
Lindac, nice horse! And only 8!?
Ja Da Dee, I have a BS paint too! Yours is very cool! Yay for them. Mine's mostly QH, but def has a more refined build. He's leaning toward the hunters or eventing though...his heart isn't in dressage, but it's a wonderful heart no less. He's ultra intelligent.

Of the horses who are 9 movers....I have to wonder what percentage of those have the brains to go with their apperant talent. (Clearly Peggy's horse did though :) )


There have been a number of times when I was warming up among magnificent horses, thinking my pony and I were gonna get our butts kicked, only to finish with a very respectable ribbon. We didn't place so well because we were just that great, it was that the fancy guys would act entirely different in the show ring. Their little brains weren't quite as capable as their big floaty legs.

Lisa Cook
Aug. 12, 2006, 09:25 PM
Great topic!

Here would be Suzi Q: Native American Sport Pony Extraordinaire :)

She is 7 years old, 14.1 hands, and officially is my son's pony, however, I borrow her whenever I think I can get away with it. ;)

http://community.webshots.com/photo/496960466/2333346760058568908myPXnl



And here is my own horse, Linus. He is a foundation-bred App. Age 5. 16.2 hands the last I measured, and hopefully he is not growing any more!

http://community.webshots.com/photo/430078197/2851125950058568908KazRdy

Adamantane
Aug. 12, 2006, 09:26 PM
Aunt Esther would like to remind these people that nowhere in any rule book does it say "Dressage Horses Must Be Warmbloods." Nowhere.

Nor does it say they even have to be a horse. Since 1 Jan 2005 mules are allowed to compete in USDF shows.:yes:

In the Jan/Feb issue of Trail Rider that someone pointed out to me there is an interview with Joan Embery Pillsbury, the DVM and onetime Good Will Ambassador of the San Diego Zoo, who who bought a 17hh mule named Easter Bunny on impulse, to add to her vast array of horses and other critters. There is a picture of Easter Bunny loading into the back of his former owner's pickup truck accompanying the article.

According to the interview Embery was encouraged by the trainer who was riding her other horses to enter him in a local (California) dressage show, which Easter Bunny promptly won. :yes:

It doesn't give particulars about the show, but I am sure whoever finished below Easter Bunny the Mule had a few dozen choice words that day.:winkgrin:

Emryss
Aug. 12, 2006, 09:34 PM
I have a jen-yoo-wine non-warmblood horse that has baffled the judges and the general public as to his breeding. He has never scored lower than 65% - even when I, a poser, completely LOST my stirrups at C! This horse is a champ as far as I'm concerned! (He's gotten eights on his gaits, too, by the way. He's a seriously cool horsie.)

CoTH folk, by the way, have correctly identified this horse as a quarter horse.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/235158443/2192005990063031381NiHcBw

Emryss
Aug. 12, 2006, 09:44 PM
I feel the need to add that at this show, Baron was edged out by a warmblood training at Level 2, maybe 3. He is training at Training Level. I think the blue ribbon was hoarded....

Oakleigh
Aug. 12, 2006, 10:31 PM
I have thoroughly enjoyed the photos and stories. Thanks!

I have owned two TB mares who competed in dressage and/or eventing. Both were quite successful. Both eventually became broodmares in my herd and went on to produce some lovely and competitive offspring when crossed with warmblood stallions.

The first one is Tiara Fox. She was shown in eventing. She produced three youngsters for me. One Dutch and two Holsteiner. The hot TB blood mixed very well and produced athletes. I own four generations on this line. The youngest is a 2 year old. Alas, the two year old is destined for the hunter ring as her movement is classic for a hunter.

The second one is Copper Beach. She was shown to third level. She has produced some offspring for me with wonderful movement and athleticism. Wonderful temperaments, too.

Oakleigh

eventer_mi
Aug. 12, 2006, 11:05 PM
for this wonderful thread. I'm usually a lurker on this board (invisible poster extraordinaire) but I've thoroughly enjoyed the pictures and the posts on this thread, as I am one of the non-WB owners.

Everybody, all your horses are so darn cute/beautiful! I especially reading and seeing the pictures of the rarer breeds, as I live in the land of the Irish Sport Horse/WB (Southern Pines, NC). I have never been able to afford anything other than the non-traditional breeds, so it's encouraging to see how others are being rewarded for their riding and training.

Aunt Esther, if you like the loud Paints, check out my husband's horse that I'm currently retraining from a trail to a dressage/eventer: http://community.webshots.com/photo/551876952/2443359160053515467EgkRYO
That's Sam, and my trainer, who is a **** rider, has told me that he's a very nice mover (and not as in "He's a nice mover for a QH"). He's got an incredible work ethic and I'm looking forward to making his dressage debut soon.

And, the best one of all (most of you have seen him before), here's Miles: http://community.webshots.com/photo/345230207/1345466208053515467FJZOgG#
He's a 16.3 hand Percheron x Morgan - how's that for non-traditional?

I must confess, though - my filly is a Trakehner x Hannoverian, so I have "given in" to the pressure of buying a WB, but she's my very first.

Sabine
Aug. 12, 2006, 11:08 PM
I love this thread- but feel that I have no right to say much - since I mostly ride WBs. and I have to say I love them.
BUT- I used to own a very hot but gorgeous TB and also a beautiful andi/TB cross and loved them very much. I also have a young Friesian cross in the back pocket (he's only 2) but I am hoping and dreaming that he could be just the funnest horse ever...LOL....
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/Sabindi/Various%20pics/IMG_0613.jpg

petitefilly
Aug. 12, 2006, 11:10 PM
I love my boy. These are pictures that are over a year old, he has come a long way since these were taken. It will be nice to get some new ones soon! Get the camera, Watson, the game's afoot!~~~

(I've owned Marcker since December 2004, he was five at that point.)

http://www.byphotos.com/album/870118

raffadasmom
Aug. 13, 2006, 01:32 AM
I'm the weirdo that LIKES to ride non WBs because the WBs I've ridden were cheap garbage warmbloods and the rides sucked and I had to work way too hard to get something that resembled forward.
Besides, there's no way in hell I'd ever be able to ride one of the "good" ones that cost more than my house to be able to compare to the jug-headed, wasp-waisted, locomotive-long backed crap I've been so "fortunate" to have ridden.
So, poor me, I'm relegated to riding the most uphill, elegant, decent-boned, sound, bold and proud horse I could find.
Yes, that's right, I ride an American saddlebred.
GASP! :eek:
God forbid!
Don't cry for me, the poor peon. I'll be OK. Really.
Here's a picture of the pitiful beast that I'm sure never will amount to anything.
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k114/bridgetandrick/plus_trotting.jpg

Reynard Ridge
Aug. 13, 2006, 06:38 AM
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...61200196BIArGe

I think mine is also an ASB. She's only 14h, though, so that's awful small for a full ASB. The most recent guess is QuarterFlinger - Half Halflinger and Half Something Else. :cool:

And I have to say, I really love to watch a top quality dressage horse go, warmblood or otherwise. I don't recall ever being dissed because my horse wasn't fancy and expensive, but (shrug) maybe I'm not hanging out in the right circles. Or maybe I am. ;)

camohn
Aug. 13, 2006, 10:38 AM
Here is our TB stallion. He is 5 and unshown u/s to date......though that will end about the end of this month. He showed in hand at 2, spend 3 and 4 in major growth spurt fuglies/was hidden behind the barn. At late 4 started training. He in unshown and still at Training level a year later through no fault of his own. He has been through 3 trainers in the past year. First took on too many horses/loved him but had not enough time to ride him.........finally gave up and told me that. Took a while to find another trainer willing to train a stallion. Trainer number 2 had him 6 mos but she also had personal problems and he probably saw about 3 mos of work and had to come home again. We are now on number 3 who comes to my house as it has gotten no easier finding someone around here who will take a stallion. She also has back problems that are bothering her lately so we are shifting to me riding him and her giving me lessons. As I am all of about a first level rider we will end up doing one of 2 things: he will progress very slowly with mommy up in the saddle or he will have to be sent far away to a trainer that will take stallions. Between trainers we have been making do with going to a few clinics. As a lower level dressage "mom" to Boomer I have been impressed with the clinics I attended so far. I was nervous as the clinicians were upper level riders and there I was the ammy on my green TB. All were very nice, helpful and willing to help with a green TB and very complimentary of his ability and personality. All 3 kindly told me they think he is an upper level prospect and that they love a good TB.
No recent pics........here he was 10 days into training.
http://providencefarmpintos.com/admin/images/boomeroctober3.jpg
http://providencefarmpintos.com/admin/images/boomeroctober4.jpg

RodeoQueen
Aug. 13, 2006, 11:10 AM
Aunt Esther,

Thanks so much for starting a thread that celebrates the non-WB Dressage riders and mounts! Everyone - what COOL photos and fun to see all of your beautiful horses! :yes:

My trainer preaches that all horses can learn Dressage - just some may be a little more talented than others - however, the art of Dressage is NOT an exclusive club or sorority for only one breed. It is up to all of us who ride a variety of horses, to do so proudly and eventually, the judges will not be able to turn their backs on great rider teams no matter the breeding.

Coming out of the closet - here's my Cowpony Racehorse Wannabe as a baby!

http://community.webshots.com/album/129823491mrWZme

Piaffing
Aug. 13, 2006, 06:02 PM
I have trained and shown both. Here is a 15.1hh QH I trained and showed to Prix St George and Intermediare 1 levels.

http://www.dressagelife.com/Colby%205.jpg

Beau_Cheval_Rouge
Aug. 13, 2006, 06:17 PM
Aunt Esther, national and international Purse Champion, is reminded by the thread started by Trixie's Mom that there is, sadly, a large number of ghastly snobs and bitches in the dressage world, who turn their noses up at the Non-Warmblood Dressage Horse.

Aunt Esther would like to remind these people that nowhere in any rule book does it say "Dressage Horses Must Be Warmbloods." Nowhere.

Aunt Esther looks forward to hearing about fellow BB members with breeds other that Warmbloods who are enjoying dressage. And hopes that they will include photos.


Thank you Aunt Esther!!!

(BCR who owns/trains/competes a QH and TB :D )

tarheelmd07
Aug. 13, 2006, 10:24 PM
Aunt Esther,
Yet another "Thank you" for this wonderful thread! Here are my 2 contributions to the "non-WB" horses in the dressage ring:

Quincey is an 18.1h percheron-TB in whom the TB must have gotten lost somewhere, as nobody seems to be able to see it -- he's built like a full draft, from his 60" girth down to his size 6 shoes. He's not the most forward of horses, but he's been a fun "project" -- and is super-cute as an added bonus :)

Quincey's final halt
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/tarheelmd07/FH4.jpg
Trotting (at a schooling show...please forgive the lack of braids)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/tarheelmd07/DRPCtrot.jpg
Up-close-and-personal shot from a test to see how big he really is :eek:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/tarheelmd07/DRPCNeck.jpg

Sadly, I've had Quincey on a year-long lease, and he's headed home the end of August. However, his replacement is equally as non-WB. Sprite (Midsummer Sprite's Dream) is a full-blooded ASB (out of 5 gaited lines...). We haven't been to any shows yet as a pair, but he's been to some little shows with his previous rider and scored fairly well. He's still a young'un

Sprite schooling trot work at home:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/tarheelmd07/Sprite2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/tarheelmd07/SpriteandHannahtrot2.jpg
Cantering
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/tarheelmd07/SpriteandHannahCanter.jpg

And, b/c she will never post pictures of herself, here's FenRidge riding her current unique (she rode an Appy for many years) horse -- a Saddlebred/Fresian -- who's one of my favorite horses to watch. You have to admit, Romke is a handsome guy (and he just turned 5!)

Romke Cantering
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/tarheelmd07/DSC_0070.jpg
Romke Halt
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/tarheelmd07/DSC_0079.jpg

Gallop~on~Grant
Aug. 13, 2006, 11:14 PM
Quincey looks like a darling! I love him! I love grays! Nope! I don't see any TB in there! ;) You look like a speck on him! Too bad you have to send him back, but Sprite looks like a beauty too!

I am surprised by the number of ASB's that people have posted on this thread. They are not at all what I expected. They are all quite nice! Maybe I have seen more around than I think and just not known it. I love the Fresian/ASB cross!

I suppose that the ASB that I have in my mind are those that I saw at shows as a child.

Thanks for the wonderful pictures!

Park Trot
Aug. 13, 2006, 11:36 PM
I have heard stories from many people that in the past they would show their ASB's in dressage and say it was a TB or something similar, just because there are so many preconcieved notions about the saddlebred. Though I am happy to see that many more people are showing their ASB's with PRIDE! They have always been my favorite and plan to own them the rest of my life.

I do not currently ride Dressage but it is one of my long term goals for my coming 6 year old Saddlebred. I have been told by many people that he would make a lovely Dressage mount, and I think as soon as I can afford riding lessons again I will find myself a good Dressage trainer :)

Pictures-
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/autumnxwalker/Steelgood1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/autumnxwalker/Steelgood2.jpg

And a couple of videos!
http://media.putfile.com/nice-trot
http://media.putfile.com/Canter---Left-Lead

normandy_shores
Aug. 14, 2006, 12:51 AM
My guy is an older TB with a long background in dressage.

I took him out of a pasture he'd been decorating for 3 years.. only to discover that within 10 minutes of being tacked up, he would do half pass, shoulder in, haunches in and all that jazz.

So I took him home, even though he's got a host of issues and will never be competition sound :)

We're just now reaching a point where our fitness level is good enough to start working on some fun stuff, though I'm going back to basics on *my* riding.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/allymrtn/77ea3460.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/allymrtn/0bd11051.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/allymrtn/a4082bba.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/allymrtn/13b50a16.jpg

strollincash
Aug. 14, 2006, 09:04 AM
Nice boy. Do you event him? I used to have one colored like him, i.e., roan, similar conformation and head, but with BIG spots (16.3 h.h. too). As for tails... well, look at my profile pic. ROFLOL (I've had some people ask if he were SWB/App. Nope. Traditional App/TB/QH mix).

Thanks. I wish I had the guts to event him. He's actually a great jumper and very brave... I'm not though :) So we stick to dressage... he's schooling 2nd/some 3rd level stuff now... the harder the better it seems... keeps his attention...

The guy in your profile is very nice... beautiful tail! :D

stolensilver
Aug. 14, 2006, 10:06 AM
Great photos of lovely horses on this thread. :D

I'm the proud rider of a non-WB in dressage too. Mine is a little Irish Bog Horse. We've gone from being dressage virgins to getting 65%+ at Advanced Medium level (3rd) in just over 3 years. She's schooling Advanced (4th) and I'm hoping to do PSG next year. Over here you really, really don't show in top hat and tails till you hit the FEI levels so I'm giddy with excitement about showing the world a Bog Horse in a top hat. ;)

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/pirie.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=15621

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/pirie.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=15620

dressage-in-color
Aug. 14, 2006, 10:54 AM
My first horse was a 17 y/o TB gelding. He could definitley hold his own against the big boys, and beat them on many occasions. Sadly, I lost him to Cushing's several years ago.
Chance with his previous owner: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/DraftXDressage/Horses/chanc291.jpg
Chance in NH: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/DraftXDressage/Horses/chance6.gif

I then bought Rosey, a 3 y/o Clyde/Belgian/TB mare. She's a head turner as well. Not the most beautiful mover, but she's decent. But more importantly, she's smart as a whip and a BLAST to ride!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/DraftXDressage/Horses/DSCN0499.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/DraftXDressage/Horses/roseycline1.jpg

And finally, my newet project, Tigger. He's an 8 y/o Paint gelding. He's built like and moves like a WB. I have very high hopes for this boy. He was an eventer down in VA, but decided it wasn't for him, (X-country jumps have been known to swallow up pretty Paint geldings, or so I've heard).
With previous owner in VA: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/DraftXDressage/Tigger/tigger.jpg
He CAN jump: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/DraftXDressage/Tigger/tigjump2.jpg
Hanging out in NH: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/DraftXDressage/Tigger/100_01902.jpg

Ja Da Dee
Aug. 14, 2006, 11:05 AM
Dressage-in-color, your Paint is adorable. What's his breeding?

tollertwins
Aug. 14, 2006, 12:09 PM
Stolensilver -your horse is a real cutie! But what is an Irish Bog horse?

dressage-in-color
Aug. 14, 2006, 01:40 PM
JDD- He's by Sacred Indian out of a TB mare. Lots of TB blood in there, sire's Grandsire was TB also. I've heard Sacred Indian was a pretty good jumper in his day. Tigger doesn't mind it, just as long as it's in the ring. :yes:
Here's a link to his sire's site: http://www.whiteharvestfarms.com/sacredindian.htm

And because he's so cute, some baby photos::D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/DraftXDressage/Tigger/tigbaby3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/DraftXDressage/Tigger/tigbaby2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/DraftXDressage/Tigger/tigbaby1.jpg

stolensilver
Aug. 14, 2006, 03:26 PM
:lol: An Irish Bog Horse? Well they're otherwise known as Irish Draught x TBs. I think they're rare and expensive over in the US. In the UK they are everywhere, and have such a good reputation as nice easy horses that almost any horse of unknown breeding is given the tag of ID x TB. My little grey mare is the real McCoy by an Irish Draught stallion called O'Sullivan. But it's far more fun to call her the Irish Bog Horse. It suits her amazing ability to get completely filthy in no time at all. She should never have been born grey. ;)

Rooty
Aug. 14, 2006, 05:02 PM
I have a marvelous WB now, but the horse I showed dressage before was a 15 hh STB mare. A pacer. Her flat canter did limit her to not going any higher than Medium 1 (slightly harder than Second Level), but she was a highly competitive horse at the provincial level.
And me and said marvelous WB had our butts kicked at 3rd Level by a Fjord Horse at one show. Although I will stick up for ourselves and tell you he was not himself at that show, usually we can score in the 60's - he was quite stiff and not coming through.
I do find that my WB learns movements, especially lateral ones, muuuch easier than the STB did though, as excellent as her work ethic was she isn't built for the job the way he is.

Tarheel Eventer
Aug. 14, 2006, 06:18 PM
Tarheel Eventer, national and international fan of Aunt Esther, is very pleased to see this very sportsmanlike thread. While the fashion advice topics never cease to amuse Tarheel Eventer, who is herself a fashion disaster, it is threads like these which truly warm the cockles of her heart. Tarheel Eventer will now be brave enough to post a picture of her OTTB mare, from last summer, with apologies for a lack of an updated photograph, having spent the last seven months in France, where many beautiful jumping horses were seen but alas not a single horse was ridden, least of all her own non-traditional dressage horse.

Trotting:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/launch_624/detail?.dir=106a&.dnm=98da.jpg&.src=ph
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/launch_624/detail?.dir=b793&.dnm=14d0.jpg&.src=ph
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/launch_624/detail?.dir=106a&.dnm=ee67.jpg&.src=ph

Stretchy Circle (her favorite part)
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/launch_624/detail?.dir=b793&.dnm=10d0.jpg&.src=ph

Pony Fixer
Aug. 14, 2006, 07:44 PM
I used to dressage an OTTB back in my poor days.

Now that I'm flush :winkgrin: I dressage a draft cross. I LOFF him like no other.

He just came back from Saugerties, NY for the dresssage4kids thing and was a star. Calm, behaved, etc. for the 11 year old daughter of my trainer. Over 66% (second place) in her class and highest score for her team.

I'm just getting back into it post-baby, so I'll be back in the show ring next season (at 2nd level).

Here he is....the only pic on my computer not too big to upload:cry:

Dawn J-L
Aug. 14, 2006, 08:20 PM
Well Aunt Esther,

I have been unable to compete the last few years due to the demands of starting up a horse breeding farm to produce Arabians with suitability for dressage <gasp! what could I possibly be thinking!>. Next year I should be able to find some time for showing, but in the meantime here's a photo of one of my yearling fillies who wants to be a dressage horse when she grows up:

http://www.faeriecourtfarm.com/photos/Titania_yr_trot.jpg
http://www.faeriecourtfarm.com/photos/Titania_gorgeous.jpg

..or else she wants to be a construction worker. Earlier this summer, she supervised the construction of the new run-in shelter, and she *really* enjoyed watching the power saw and other power tools in action. She thought it quite unfair that we had fenced her off from the work area so that she couldn't actually help the friendly construction guys. At least she got to follow the "Bobcat" around and helped it move some dirt one day.

Dressage or Construction, only time will tell!

Sandy M
Aug. 15, 2006, 01:07 PM
Well Aunt Esther,

..or else she wants to be a construction worker. Earlier this summer, she supervised the construction of the new run-in shelter, and she *really* enjoyed watching the power saw and other power tools in action. She thought it quite unfair that we had fenced her off from the work area so that she couldn't actually help the friendly construction guys. At least she got to follow the "Bobcat" around and helped it move some dirt one day.

Dressage or Construction, only time will tell!

Interesting. This is the first time anyone has posted about a horse that has the same strange fascination as my horse with heavy equipment and power tools. I though perhaps he would have a more "spooky" reaction when the big earth movers were actually MOVING, but NO, he wanted to get closer. One day, when I was saddling him, a new load of hay arrived and they were unloading and putting it in the haybarn with a forklift of the kind that has side arms that grasp the load. When I fastened his halter around his neck so I could bridle him, Mr. Well Mannered immediately started walking away, straight toward the moving Bobcat so he could check it out. It took a VERY emphatic Whoa! and jerk on the halter to stop him! Obviously not an Arab thing, since my guy's an App.

twnkltoz
Aug. 15, 2006, 01:12 PM
My 5yo arab once stood and watched (with me on her) very calmly as someone fired up a circular saw and sawed some wood. Didn't even flinch! And they say arabs are scaredy cats. She has to be right in the middle of anything that's going on, be it poop scooping, idle conversation (she often contributes such gems as, "do you have a cookie?"), or facilities maintenance.

tryhardeventer
Aug. 16, 2006, 12:17 AM
Does Aunt Esther draw the line at mules? I saw a mule perform a Prix St George test at Bishop Mule Days quite a few years ago. Fabulous to watch (especially knowing how obtuse they can be at times).
I wish I could find a mule here in Oz, just to watch the faces of the DQs as I warmed up! Never mind the judges LOL. I wonder if I would be scored fairly?
Mind you I am sure there are a few people who already think I ride a mule.....

Simrat
Aug. 16, 2006, 12:49 AM
Aunt Esther,

I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread, now that I have had the time to read though it. I had to steal that away from the family, but it was well worth it. I grew up, very luckily, with an instructor that had us reading Podhajsky while the other kids were riding huntseat. ;) Not that I every got much past training level in our little upstate NY schooling shows, but some of it stuck anyway...

Please excuse *everything* in this photo. This was my young stallion's very first ride. :) He was a champ. It ended up as a total non-event. Even though he is only 13.2 and a Spanish Barb/Mustang of very nice foundation breeding and I am 5' 8," I do hope to see how far he can go. I contemplate seeing if I can find a small rider or trainer to show him for me, as I am not sure how we would be received as a pair in the ring.

He was inspected by the ASPR and passed First Premium. The few times that I have taken him out he has been mistaken for a Welsh pony and a "mini Lusitano with color" Hmmm.... He has lovely movement and more potential than I can probably use.

Again... excuse the blurry, nighttime photo, the jeans, the halter, the work gloves, baggy t-shirt, too much to list... :eek:
http://akalranch.com/Paisano/images/060804-Riding.jpg

Here is another of my recent favorites. :)
http://akalranch.com/Paisano/images/060804PaisanoEye.jpg

So would we be a total oddity showing together in a few years? We would clean up, of course!

fullmoon fever
Aug. 18, 2006, 01:56 PM
16.2hh, 16 yr. old Appaloosa gelding

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/jazzyrock/Indy/dressage.jpg

We get good scores and really nice comments from the judges. :D

Tomorrow I can add something else about him, but for now it's a secret. ;)

Forgot to check this thread and add the "secret". I donated my horse to the Student Rider Nation's Cup and he got the top score in 2nd Round Dressage...after doing three rounds of jumper the previous day. :D

He's such a good boy. He was doing 3'3? and I haven't jumped that high in 2-3 years...I had schooled him over about 18" prior to the show. :rolleyes: I am getting over some jumping confidence issues.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/jazzyrock/Indy/Indyjump3.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/jazzyrock/Indy/Indyjump2.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/jazzyrock/Indy/Indyjump.jpg

riddlepadiddle
Aug. 19, 2006, 12:56 AM
I have a 14.2 hand Connemara/TB/QH who is a red roan, and we do not quite fit in with the 17 hand WBs. But he is a fabulous mover and here are some pictures.

http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?eventorder?photo=00HZ00FM0D0053&start=0&album=0&adjust=-1

http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?eventorder?photo=00HZ00FM0D0068&start=0&album=0&adjust=-1

mellanie
Aug. 21, 2006, 12:50 PM
I am riding a homebred 16.1h+ 3 yr old Appaloosa Arab cross. I have received great comments at his first 2 Dressage shows from the judges and everyone around. Levi definately stands out in a crowd! I totally love this guy, he makes riding a pleasure always.


http://www.confettifarms.com/offspring.htm

scroll down to Confetti's Magic aka "Levi"
http://www.confettifarms.com/Confettis%20red%20rose%20foals.htm

2DogsFarm
Aug. 21, 2006, 01:11 PM
Dear Aunt Esther
First let me say I read your posts religiously, they are the closest I come to organized religion.
Please check the pic in my profile - that is DH doing a First Level test on his TWH. Yes - it was at an event, but I think they were a fine pair. :yes:

My current TWH - Cash in my pic - has "passed" for WB. He is big - 17H easy - and when I took him to a schooling show that had a gaited dressage class, the gatemaster tried to stop us from entering the ring telling me "This class is for gaited horses"
Alas, he does not trot. So the best I can aspire to show him is at places that will allow us to gait instead of trot. No FEI in our future, but he is a fun ride so WTH.

The other horse in my pic - Vern - is TB and schooled Third Level with me back in the days when I trained/rode/showed

cuatx55
Aug. 21, 2006, 02:35 PM
I am riding a homebred 16.1h+ 3 yr old Appaloosa Arab cross. I have received great comments at his first 2 Dressage shows from the judges and everyone around. Levi definately stands out in a crowd! I totally love this guy, he makes riding a pleasure always.


http://www.confettifarms.com/offspring.htm

scroll down to Confetti's Magic aka "Levi"
http://www.confettifarms.com/Confettis%20red%20rose%20foals.htm


Nice horse mellanie! Love the arab crosses!

JoZ
Aug. 21, 2006, 02:57 PM
My prospect is in my Profile.

She is a VERY non-traditional and rare breed, she is a Notaclue*. She has gotten draftier as she has aged (she is 3 now, a yearling in the pic) -- short back, great hip, heavy neck, feet like dinner plates, upright shoulder... and I love her to pieces. And I think she moves like a dream.

She and I will do whatever she and I can do, and have a blast doing it!



*PMU foal with no info available... breeds I have "seen" in her include Paint (of course), Clydesdale, Shire, TB, and something gaited.

twnkltoz
Aug. 21, 2006, 03:54 PM
How come we don't see more Lippizaners and Andalusians in dressage? Or do we, and I'm just not worldly enough to notice?

mellanie
Aug. 21, 2006, 04:21 PM
Nice horse mellanie! Love the arab crosses!

Thanks cutx55 I love this guy. He is so much fun, I am really having a great time with him. I normally sell all of my babies, but my friend insisted that I keep a baby for myself that is the same age as her boy, so we can show together like old times. Please don't look at my riding, I have been out of the saddle for 2 years after having several major surgeries, I have been riding again for 2 months and I am horribly out of shape.

cuatx55
Aug. 21, 2006, 06:30 PM
mellanie-

you have a PM

NeverSurrender
Aug. 21, 2006, 07:37 PM
Teehee I love this thread, I get it alot at my barn where most people have either a thoroughbred or warmblood of some kind, and I come ploding (with grace I might add) into the ring with my 16 year old Quater Horse that could kick all their booties! Ok maybe not but we definately get the snobby looks!

phoebetrainer
Aug. 21, 2006, 07:49 PM
What a great idea. I have never posted on the dressage forum - I am an eventer, and although I enjoy dressage, as you will see it is not my strongest point!;)

TB doing dressage (at a horse trial)
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/nzphoebe/MacDressage.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/nzphoebe/macdress.jpg

Irish Sport horse doing dressage (again at a horse trial):
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/nzphoebe/rufusdress.jpg

And I couldn't resist - a WB doing dressage. Its her first dressage competition, also a HT, and the photo isn't quite at the right point in time.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/nzphoebe/phoebedress.jpg

And Yes, she is a registered WB, both parents registered too, mother was out of a coloured mare. Aunt Esther, I hope you approve.

Sannois
Aug. 21, 2006, 10:36 PM
Just lovely TB Phoebe trainer.

kwpnWB
Aug. 21, 2006, 10:41 PM
I own a mare that is shown at Third level and she is a QUARTER HORSE mare :) I actually baught her from a cutting ranch.

Kissitallgoodbye - Diamond

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/A3L/CopyofUntitled27.jpg

phoebetrainer
Aug. 22, 2006, 05:56 AM
Thank you Sannois. I think he has got what it takes. Funny - before this winter (ie last few months) he has never been like a TB - my 10 year old foster son could ride him, fast work etc but this winter he's got really up himself and now I wouldn't let kids near him - but his dressage has got better and better!

royal militron
Aug. 22, 2006, 08:27 AM
I have a TB!!! He looks a tad like a warmblood in some of the pics(There's a good riding shot of him in my profile picture). :-) And I never worry about not being on a warmblood.

Everyone has beautiful horses!

exvet
Aug. 22, 2006, 09:09 AM
Well my "little" welsh cob who has already qualified at 1st level for the regional championships managed to qualify for 2nd level as well after the show this past weekend. He won the class with his qualifying test and went on to earn another Dover medal in his next class. There is an "OK" picture of him in my profile - it's kind of an awkward moment 'cause it's in 2nd level test four just as I'm going from shoulder in to renvers but I liked how it shows his concentration. He's a real trooper.

citydog
Aug. 22, 2006, 03:04 PM
I've enjoyed everyone's pics of their lovely beasts immensely.

I had a background in WBs from when I lived in Germany, but became smitten with Icelandics when flying back and forth on Iceland Air (always the cheapest). So although I ride others' horses (Dutch, Hanoverians, and a few lovely Irish Sport--erm...*Bog* :lol: --Horses), my personal dressage mount is a 13.3ish Icelandic.

I'm 5'9", but he takes up my leg and sure doesn't feel 13.3. I love the looks we get when tacking up, but I love the dropped jaws when folks see him move--especially his ginormous trot--even more. :D

I can't find any pics on this machine, but will post if I can unearth some.

Perhaps we need a thread (or a clique) for gaited dressage horses?

Gayla
Aug. 22, 2006, 03:57 PM
Here is a picture of my horse. He was just started under saddle last month and he is doing so well that I started to think he might be a good partner for me (I had my doubts as he is all sports car...if you know what I mean...lots of go, go, go). He is out of a beautiful and sweet arab mare and the TB stallion Deputed Duke. If you look through the webshots there is one of his dam and Deputed Duke
Darrin (http://community.webshots.com/photo/93533688/2113476320050057983PqzkOm)

Caradressage
Aug. 22, 2006, 04:36 PM
I've got an appy too! Well, he's an appy cross.

http://www.freewebs.com/stonewallsromeo/pictures.htm

We've improved alot since these pix were taken.

I haven't taken him to any shows or clinics yet, but I'm anticipating wierd looks and some comments... Our first clinic is in 2 weeks, I'm so excited!

I've also got my Quarter Horse, he doesn't look like much, but people are always completely surprised and blown away when they see him move! I love hearing them, lol.

http://www.freewebs.com/tjequine/quervo.htm

btw, everybody's horses are just gorgeous!

tollertwins
Aug. 22, 2006, 07:00 PM
Icelandics are SOOOO cool! Rode some up in Vermont. I wanted one really really bad - but live in Texas and with them blowing in the 'heat' in Vermont, I figured that would be a REALLY bad idea!

citydog
Aug. 22, 2006, 08:25 PM
But they do fine in the heat so long as you body clip them. :yes:

There's a guy out in SoCA who does endurance. He's got over 10,000 miles on one of his horses. Clipped and conditioned, they can do heat just fine.

EquineLegalSolutions
Aug. 24, 2006, 08:59 PM
Ah, another excellent thread from Aunt Esther!
It reminds me of Julie, a friend of mine who took her Paint mare to a dressage clinic with many DQs in attendance. Julie's mare is a lovely chestnut with sabino markings. One of the DQs asked Julie "what" her mare was and Julie replied proudly, "She's a Paint." The DQ then pressed on to ask if her mare was by (unpronounceable German stallion name here) and Julie said, "No, Sonny's Top Gun." The DQ's eyes widened and she said, "Oh, so she's a REAL Paint." :D Apparently, the DQ didn't speak to Julie the rest of the week... :lol:
Of course, Julie is the same gal who happened to overhear one of the DQs at her barn exclaiming that she "couldn't believe" Julie had purchased a red halter for her mare, as "everyone knows" that "you just can't put red on a chestnut!" Julie then proceeded to purchase as many items of red tack as she could find (sport medicine boots, saddle pad, etc.) and wear them all at once while schooling. :lol: I thought it ironic that the fashionista who made the comment favored purple herself...