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Jinx
Jul. 13, 2006, 11:08 PM
Thanks again VB....
still thinking of you buddy......keep on going....
massive heartfelt jingles....
Jinx
Jul. 13, 2006, 11:18 PM
a direct link to the "candles"
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=barba
Spirit_Rider16
Jul. 13, 2006, 11:33 PM
VB, thank you for posting all of these updates for us. I love to see so many people on this BB pulling together, especially for a cause such as Barbaro's.
Jinx, thank you for the link to the candle page. I've got my internet and RL candles burning, and you can bet I'll be praying for Bobby until this crisis has past.
Mardi
Jul. 14, 2006, 12:07 AM
Thank you for posting the link to the candle page. What a beautiful site (and sight).
Buffyblue
Jul. 14, 2006, 12:21 AM
Many thanks for the updates, links to videos, and the link to the candles. I just lit one.
*jumper*
Jul. 14, 2006, 12:51 AM
I originally posted a link to the article VB already copied above (because I'm not that great at paying attention, i guess:) ) But anyway:
This line really struck me-
"Trying to save Barbaro's life is noble and humane. And so is euthanizing him."
How very true...when the time comes, if it does, they will know. Until then, we must continue to pray for Barbaro! His spirits are high; he's telling them that for now, he's ok, and I pray and hope it stays that way. He's gone through so much, and he's only 3 years old, but he acts so incredibly mature. Barbaro is truly my hero...he never gives up, and as long as there's hope for survival, he'll keep fighting. Let's pray and hope that he pulls through this one.
He's beaten the odds before, and he can do it again!
didgery
Jul. 14, 2006, 01:39 AM
Can't comment on whether to euthanize or not, as only those who know him can say when the time may come . . .
I am wondering, after seeing the above video, what kind of strain it puts on his body to turn so tightly. Seeing him move off from a halt to a walk in a tight circle with ALL his weight on his cast . . . and then in the other direction, with all his weight on his resectioned hoof (if I've got my facts right - haven't been following closely) made me wince. I could barely watch that brief video. If the handler had just tried to get him a little more balanced on all four before turning or moving off, I think it would not have bothered me so.
With the amount of money being spent on him, surely they have access to a treadmill or some other way to get him moving briefly without turning him in such tight circles?? Or were they moving him simply to get his stall cleaned or something?
Thoughts? Enlighten me, please, if I'm missing something.
adventurebeachponies
Jul. 14, 2006, 05:57 AM
Can't comment on whether to euthanize or not, as only those who know him can say when the time may come . . .
I am wondering, after seeing the above video, what kind of strain it puts on his body to turn so tightly. Seeing him move off from a halt to a walk in a tight circle with ALL his weight on his cast . . . and then in the other direction, with all his weight on his resectioned hoof (if I've got my facts right - haven't been following closely) made me wince. I could barely watch that brief video. If the handler had just tried to get him a little more balanced on all four before turning or moving off, I think it would not have bothered me so.
With the amount of money being spent on him, surely they have access to a treadmill or some other way to get him moving briefly without turning him in such tight circles?? Or were they moving him simply to get his stall cleaned or something?
Thoughts? Enlighten me, please, if I'm missing something.
There is no way to avoid the tight turns as he is stall bound and will be turning on small radius's for many, many months in recovery. I think this is very minor in the scheme of things and nothing to really worry about.
I was very, very glad to see how bright and alert he is and accepting of his new life as a patient. You can see he is completely at home in the hospital environment and completely trusts his caretakers and pays zero attention to whoever is working with some other part of his body. These are all great signs and make it clear that NB and his owners ARE making the right decision to keep treating him at this stage.
Additionally, I think he may be the most spoiled horse on the planet at this stage - it was clear that he absolutely expects that whoever is at his head keep those carrots, cards and letters coming! When he dropped his carrot and began tossing his head I laughed as it was clear he was trying to get doc's attention to "PICK UP THE LOST CARROT... NOW!!" He is having many happy moments and getting lots of scritching and carrots...
so keep a curb chain with you today and keep jingling and praying!
nelson
Jul. 14, 2006, 06:29 AM
Thanks VB, for all of your updates.
Fred
Jul. 14, 2006, 06:30 AM
jingling, lighting a candle, and keeping Barbaro in my heart and thoughts.
Be strong, handsome lad.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 06:43 AM
Update 225: Must see: Web Extra: Latest Barbaro Video (http://cbs3.com/video/?id=28357@kyw.dayport.com). It illustrates Bobby's use of the sling, his mobility and to be honest, the sharpness about the look he retains. He appears inquisitive (I noticed a quick "ears pricking" moment), and obviously loves the carrots.
Jeannine Edwards left this comment regarding ESPNs coverage:
Thank you for the kind words. Just want to let you know, in case you noticed and were wondering why Barbaro's tail looked so short in the ESPN footage from today (shot at 5pm by New Bolton staff) they had a rope around his tail when he was recovering from anesthesia Sat night (standard procedure) but it was a rough go, and most of his tail hairs were pulled out. As if the poor horse doesn't have enough to deal with! I thought he walked well, and New Bolton clearly shot the footage to avoid speculation that Barbaro may be suffering. His eyes seemed a bit dull and tired to me, but keep in mind he's on massive amounts of meds and was also sedated earlier in the day so they could work on his foot. He's been through hell... I think he looked good considering. I was happy to see him putting good weight on the left hind foot. He's a trooper. Very sad situation, but we must all hope for a miracle. We'll have more updates tomorrow from New Bolton.
Jeannine
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 06:54 AM
From Chris Woolley:
This is a florist in Kennett Square that will make anything you want!The Jackons are long time customers there and yes the cards and things have dropped off.
Kennett Florist, Inc.
610-444-6040
www.kennettflorist.net
Boston Chicken
Jul. 14, 2006, 07:02 AM
Thank you again VB from the bottom of my heart. Your dedication to keeping us all informed is greatly appreciated. It's heartbreaking to read the updates, but I keep praying for a miracle. :sadsmile:
Pat Ness
Jul. 14, 2006, 07:03 AM
Thank you for the video link. In my eyes, Barbaro looks good. I am the forever optimist and will continue hoping for the recovery that returns him to a painfree life.
The Nureyev story is amazing - thanks for that link as it helps with understanding just how long and hard a successful recovery can be.
Helen of NC
Jul. 14, 2006, 07:06 AM
I've been to the Barbara Livingston site numerous times since the injury, but had never before noticed this image:
http://www.barbaralivingston.com/gallery/album161/Whitespot
If ever there was a need for any 'luck' this could imbue, now is the time.
And thank you so very much, VB, for all you've posted, and for the latest link to the florists.
Has anyone else found themselves spending even more introspective, quiet time with their own horses these last couple days? I know I certainly have. They listen so well...
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 07:10 AM
From Tim:
Update 226: Barbaro had a comfortable night last night (Thursday pm). He slept about 4-5 hours which is a clear signal of his comfort level. He was out of the sling for most of the night. I spoke to Michael Matz to get this news this morning (he had heard from Dr. Richardson). It was obvious in Michael's expression that he was relieved to be able to provide this news.
Updated Friday 7:10am
Esprit
Jul. 14, 2006, 07:17 AM
For your regular updates and commitment to keeping us "in the know" as much as possible - this is my only stop - I learn more here than in the news reports :)
So happy he had a good night, bless him.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 07:23 AM
Vet laments Barbaro's laminitis
Sabin Russell, Chronicle Medical Writer (srussell@sfchronicle.com)
Friday, July 14, 2006
Laminitis, the painful foot malady that may well cut short the life of Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro, is one of the oldest and most common veterinary problems associated with horses.
It is painful for the horses, and painful for humans to think about.
"It is analogous to banging your finger with a hammer, and then having to stand on that finger,'' said Dr. Tim Eastman, a horse veterinarian at Steinbeck Country Equine Clinic in Salinas.
Laminitis is a term for the inflammation of millions of laminae -- the tissue that connects a horse's foot bone to the horny material of its hoof. The inflammation causes excruciating pain and pressure, and in the most serious cases, causes the hoof to separate from the bone. When the bone starts to rotate within the loosened hoof, the horse is said to have "foundered." In the most severe cases, laminae are starved from their blood supply and die, and the pointed tip of the bone punches through the bottom of the foot.
In a field where severe pain and poor prognosis is not tolerated, it is common to euthanize the suffering animal. That's what happened to Secretariat, the 1973 Triple Crown winner and arguably the greatest racehorse ever. He came down with laminitis and was euthanized in 1989.
Barbaro was considered a strong contender to win the Triple Crown this year when he severely broke his right hind leg during the Preakness on May 20. He had won the Kentucky Derby two weeks earlier by 6 1/2 lengths.
During the six weeks Barbaro has been healing from his fractured leg, he shifted weight to his left, and the added strain brought on the laminitis. "The biggest challenge in fracture repair is preserving the good leg,'' Eastman said. "When he broke his leg, we were talking about laminitis that day.''
Eastman has been following the thoroughbred's battle to recover particularly closely, because he and his wife -- who is also a horse veterinarian -- traveled to Churchill Downs and watched him win the Kentucky Derby. "He won that race, and wasn't even breathing hard. We thought we would win the Triple Crown,'' he said.
Eastman also knows Dr. Dean Richardson, the University of Pennsylvania veterinarian who is caring for Barbaro. "He is one of the most recognized equine orthopedic surgeons in the world,'' Eastman said.
There are multiple causes of laminitis, and they illustrate the complexity of horse biology. The animals may come down with it after moving to a pasture rich in tall, fresh grasses, or if they overeat a bucket of grains. The dietary changes alter the bacteria in their gut, and these bacteria produce toxins that can cause inflammation in their feet. Another common trigger is incomplete expulsion of a placenta after a broodmare gives birth -- causing a systemic illness with a similar inflammatory response.
Laminitis can be treated with painkillers, anti-inflammatory drugs and medicines that dilate blood vessels -- to keep blood flowing to the threatened area. Specially made shoes can also help reduce or redistribute the weight of the horse on the inflamed hoof.
However, it is still a notoriously difficult disease to treat. Thoroughbreds weigh between 1,000 and 1,200 pounds. Keeping weight off a diseased hoof with a sling can create digestive problems and pressures sores, so the use of slings has to be limited. In more serious cases, surgeons can cut part of the hoof away, which is what surgeons did with Barbaro on Wednesday. Eastman has published a study of another procedure, where the tendon at the back of the foot is cut to relieve pressure on the bone. About 60 percent of the horses, most of which would otherwise be euthanized, survived the procedure.
Most horses can recover from lesser bouts of laminitis, but they may be forever lame because of scar tissue left at the site of the inflammation.
Barbaro's case has been described as "acute laminitis," a term often used for the most serious type of foundering. Richardson has been frank that the thoroughbred's chances of survival are now slim.
"Unfortunately, the prognosis is not very good," Eastman said. "If it is going bad now, it's terribly sad, but not terribly surprising. The old adage, 'No foot, no horse,' is still true today.''
E-mail Sabin Russell at srussell@sfchronicle.com.
captain
Jul. 14, 2006, 07:28 AM
to The Powers that be,
please be with Barbaro and his family as the struggle for recovery continues, renew their strength, and let them absorb all the hope and love that comes from the masses that have kept vigil. please let the strength of his youth, his family and his friends have influence at this critical moment. most of all, let his most profound heart sing for all time.
whichever way fate takes him, i hope he gets to see the outdoors at least once more. to smell fresh air, feel a breeze, taste live grasses, see the sunlight......
have to go hug my own horses now.....
sporthorsefilly
Jul. 14, 2006, 07:44 AM
to The Powers that be,
please be with Barbaro and his family as the struggle for recovery continues, renew their strength, and let them absorb all the hope and love that comes from the masses that have kept vigil. please let the strength of his youth, his family and his friends have influence at this critical moment. most of all, let his most profound heart sing for all time.
whichever way fate takes him, i hope he gets to see the outdoors at least once more. to smell fresh air, feel a breeze, taste live grasses, see the sunlight......
have to go hug my own horses now.....
BEAUTIFUL sentiment, thanks. Hug every horse each day.
We have all been through the roller coaster ride of emotion for a horse fighting for his life. I pray that Barbaro will make it, he has all the best care and love he can have, now it is up to God.
mbj
Jul. 14, 2006, 07:52 AM
Amen to what Captain posted. Have a lit candle, prayers and jingles here.
Spoilsport
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:01 AM
Thanks, VB and everyone, for these great updates. This the first place I go in the morning. I'm not giving up on Bobby!
Last night one of the male boarder at my barn caught me hugging his horse :lol: . Big horse, so I had to reach way up to get my arms around his neck. I think the owner thought I was nuts. I explained about Barbaro and that I needed to give every horse an extra hug. A little later I found the boarder giving my mare carrots and scratches :winkgrin: .
Today I'll light another candle for Bobby and give all the horses extra hugs again.
eggbutt
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:03 AM
to The Powers that be,
please be with Barbaro and his family as the struggle for recovery continues, renew their strength, and let them absorb all the hope and love that comes from the masses that have kept vigil. please let the strength of his youth, his family and his friends have influence at this critical moment. most of all, let his most profound heart sing for all time.
whichever way fate takes him, i hope he gets to see the outdoors at least once more. to smell fresh air, feel a breeze, taste live grasses, see the sunlight......
have to go hug my own horses now.....
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Thanks for this beautiful prayer captain. I almost dread checking in each morning now for fear of seeing what is appearing to be the inevitable. I am so sad and having gone down the laminitis path before, I am losing hope for this magnificant horse. I jingle for strength for all of us and Barbaro & Co.
Equine Connection
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:07 AM
Thanks so much again for the updates, and for me too, this is the first place I check in the morning as soon as I get to work. Our thoughts and prayers are with Barbaro and all of those wonderful people who are giving him every possible chance. What an incredible horse, to say the very least. Godspeed Barbaro.
SAS
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:08 AM
My thoughts are with Barbaro and his team this morning. Hang in there Barbaro - we are all pulling for you!!!!!!!!!
Those Barbara Livingston photos are just AMAZING. Every time I look at them I get weepy. I would love to purchase some of those photos. I just find the whole Barbaro story so inspirational.
This thread is the first thing I look at every morning when I get to work. Thank you all for the very informational updates. Hopefully Barbaro will have a good day today. Fingers crossed, curb chains jingling, candles burning...........
eggbutt
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:17 AM
News Alert Banner just posted on CNN.com:
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/.element/img/1.5/main/news_alert.gifBarbaro is doing "much better" this morning, a day after his veterinarian said the Kentucky Derby winner was a "long shot" to survive a potentially fatal hoof disease, The Associated Press reports.
Castlegate
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:19 AM
Having battled my own laminitis this time last year I know how much of a toll it can take on those that love their horses....
I wish all involved with Barbaro the strength and optomism they may need right now to know when to fight and when to surrender.
My founder survivor Paisley wishes Barbaro the same success and luck that she had...
Hang in there BIG GUY!
monstrpony
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:21 AM
You know, I think I could stand to lose the Kentucky Derby Winner, but to lose a fighter like Barbaro is, that would absolutely break my heart.
Still jingling with all I've got.
And, again, Thanks to VB for the updates.
LouLove
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:21 AM
On my drive into work I just kept thinking about how I "have to check VBs update right away!!!!"
I hugged my own OTTB last nite and told her to talk to her "horse people" as it wasn't Bs time to go just yet.....she snorted and I got horse boogs on me...but I think she understood. :)
Castlegate
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:26 AM
Just watched the video and must add that Barbaro looks a ga-zillion times better than Paisley did with her laminitis....she was letargic and disinterested in EVERYTHING and non-weight bearing even with pain meds...
Looks to me like they are doing a beautiful job with keeping him comfortable...and to ME, it certainly doesn't look like he is ready to give up....
eggbutt
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:29 AM
A bit of good news from CNN.com:
KENNETT SQUARE, Pa. (AP) -- Barbaro was doing "much better" Friday morning, a day after his veterinarian said the Kentucky Derby winner was a "long shot" to survive a potentially fatal hoof disease.
"He had a good night last night, and even slept on his side," Dr. Dean Richardson told The Associated Press early Friday before re-entering the George D. Widener Hospital for Large Animals to check again on the 3-year-colt. "He's doing much better."
Keep the prayers coming!
Gracie's Mom
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:31 AM
I'm going to ask what is possibly a stupid question (and some may consider morbid, I warn you), but I'm very curious about the answer.
In light of how badly things are going for B right now, I am wondering if it is an option to recover any sperm from him (surgically?) if he is going to be lost? What I am thinking is if he does end up needing to be put down, to anesthetize him, perfom whatever procedure (if there is one?) to obtain sperm, then perform euthenasia while he is still under anesthesia? Has anything like this ever been done?
It would be wonderful for B to leave a living legacy, if it was at all possible, though the wonders of modern technology. Does anyone know if this is an option, or a stupid wishful thought if the worst does come. What precious sperm straws those would be!!!
Gracie's Mom
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Jul. 14, 2006, 08:36 AM
But don't TBs need to be live cover? I don't think his semen would be worth much outside of the racing world...could be wrong, but nonracing peeps won't pay what racing peeps will pay.
chawley
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:45 AM
But don't TBs need to be live cover? I don't think his semen would be worth much outside of the racing world...could be wrong, but nonracing peeps won't pay what racing peeps will pay.
You're correct. TBs must do a live cover to be accepted by the Jockey Club.
sporthorsefilly
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:51 AM
I saw the update posted at ESPN that Barbaro is doing better this morning. Thank God.
Never, ever give up, if there is the slightest ray of hope. He surely looked like he is still trying in the video that VB posted. Thanks again VB
Gracie's Mom
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:52 AM
Ah, darnit, you're right about the live cover thing, I hadn't thought of that. Am so used to the rest of the horse world doing AI. Jeez, when the heck is the JC going to get rid of that archaic rule? :( Perhaps this instance would be useful in getting the JC to come into modern day (JMO opinion, let's not turn the thread into a live cover vs AI debate).
Sigh, if it *were* possible, wonder if they would still consider doing it even if the foals weren't JC registerable? The leaving of a living legacy from such a magnificant animal still makes me feel good even if it couldn't be a racehorse. Surely such "mongrels" (ha!) could still find a place of value in the sport horse world?
I know I'd stand in line to breed my TB mare with his blood even if it couldn't race. And boy oh boy would that be one cherished foal!
Gracie's Mom
eks
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:53 AM
to The Powers that be,
whichever way fate takes him, i hope he gets to see the outdoors at least once more. to smell fresh air, feel a breeze, taste live grasses, see the sunlight......
I was thinking exactly the same thing. Especially when I was looking through all of Barbara's amazing photos of Barbaro last night. I'm so glad to hear he rested pretty well last night. Praying like crazy!!
War Admiral
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:54 AM
Thanks so very much, VB and everyone else, for all the linkage and updates!!
Geeze, watching that video, he really looks iiiiGOOD!!!! considering everything he's been through. WHAT a grand, brave horse. I agree that his underweight is probably an advantage right now.
Like most of the rest of y'all, I do not think it's appropriate for anyone here to try to second-guess Barbaro's vets, owners and trainer. I have a very strong sense that these people are ALL in it for the horse. But I can tell you just on the basis of that video, no way would I vote "euthanize" either. This horse is NOT ready to go.
One obvious point the "euthanize clique" seems to be forgetting is that EVERY DAY that this horse survives, NBC is learning more about how to do things better to help other horses in the future. :yes:
So please, naysayers, go do your armchair quarterbacking in some other thread, and let's keep this one for jingles, prayers and updates for this good horse.
luvmytbs
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:59 AM
Glad to hear he is doing better this morning. Loved the video. All he seemed to worry about is getting more carrots. :D
What a trooper. Lots and lots of jingles from the Bluegrass!
Janet
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:59 AM
Ah, darnit, you're right about the live cover thing, I hadn't thought of that. Am so used to the rest of the horse world doing AI. Jeez, when the heck is the JC going to get rid of that archaic rule? :( Perhaps this instance would be useful in getting the JC to come into modern day (JMO opinion, let's not turn the thread into a live cover vs AI debate). There is already a whole thread on that, with the title "Barbaro's Legacy" (or something similar).
Janet
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:04 AM
Front Page News on the "Globe and Mail" in Canada (where I am- Montreal- for the Internet Engineering Task Force meeting) on Barabaro.
Of course the headline is pretty stupid ("Derby Winner Near Death", or something equally depressing) but the article seems pretty reasonable.
Helen of NC
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:11 AM
I don't normally read the local (Charlotte, NC's Observer) sports columnist, but today's column caught my eye; his final sentence sums up my feelings beautifully.
Posted on Fri, Jul. 14, 2006
IN MY OPINION
Barbaro's valiant race could be on its final run
TOM SORENSEN
If you want to see a tough guy turn tender, invoke Barbaro. America doesn't have a team, but it has a horse.
Living means more than staying alive, and if the colt can't escape his pain, his owner will allow him to sleep the permanent sleep.
Barbaro has undergone four surgeries since he was injured at the start of the Preakness Stakes two months ago. The hope was that the surgeries and the six casts he has worn would enable him to overcome the devastating injury to his right hind leg. Alas, that hope appears slim.
I don't want to embellish this, but I suspect most of us can remember where we were when we saw the replay of the injury, if we missed the race. Calls were made, e-mail exchanged. Did you see it? We saw it. It was horrific, a simple misstep, a shattered leg and a life altered and maybe ended.
Even if we don't follow horse racing the way we follow football we wanted to see Barbaro win the Preakness. The colt won the Kentucky Derby by a staggering 6 1/2 lengths. The rest of the field might as well have been running in mud. For Barbaro, it was as if a smooth red carpet had been rolled all the way around the track.
We like greatness, and this was it. Until the Preakness, Barbaro had run six races and won them all. Find me an athlete who was having a better year.
Animals can be cocky, obnoxious and willful, petulant, put-upon and ungrateful, and aren't they great? The people I trust most have an instinctive love for animals. How we treat them is one of those qualities that tells the world who we are. Anybody who abuses an animal that can't fight back or call the cops is worthless.
If you kick the dog, leave it outside on a sweltering summer day or dress it like some four-legged Barbie, have at it. But I hope when you get to St. Peter -- if there is a St. Peter -- he's wearing a PETA button and holding a leash.
My dogs are no Barbaro, but the idea of having to put one of them down is impossibly sad. They're not obedient. If I say sit or stay or roll over they look at me as if I should be put down. What are they, seals?
I can't imagine life without them. I call them when I travel, take them for walks downtown because I worry about them becoming too suburban, and buy them gifts at least once a week. And not once has Nike, the Boston, or Caymus, the greyhound that rescued his rescuers, looked at a gift and said, "You expect me to wear that in public?"
Not that I would buy them clothes. No dog wants to wear clothes, except for a poodle, maybe. They want bones, they want treats and they want to run and explore and be loved.
My dogs get to me and Barbaro got to us. He looked as if he loved to run, and he did it beautifully. Most of us saw him finish only one race. He is 3 years old.
I have visited the grave of Secretariat. I hope I'm ancient before I have the opportunity to pay my respects to Barbaro.
Chester's Mom
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:17 AM
Thanks for sharing, Helen. I have been praying for both Bobby & all his connections in this difficult time.
Boston Chicken
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:19 AM
Great article, Helen. I am going to send the reporter a thank you.
Boston Chicken
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:28 AM
AND - in that video, he is quite bright and seems to be getting around OK. He looks like he's amazingly spritely.
barney4liz
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:35 AM
Geeze, watching that video, he really looks iiiiGOOD!!!! considering everything he's been through. WHAT a grand, brave horse. I agree that his underweight is probably an advantage right now.
Like most of the rest of y'all, I do not think it's appropriate for anyone here to try to second-guess Barbaro's vets, owners and trainer. I have a very strong sense that these people are ALL in it for the horse. But I can tell you just on the basis of that video, no way would I vote "euthanize" either. This horse is NOT ready to go.
One obvious point the "euthanize clique" seems to be forgetting is that EVERY DAY that this horse survives, NBC is learning more about how to do things better to help other horses in the future. :yes:
So please, naysayers, go do your armchair quarterbacking in some other thread, and let's keep this one for jingles, prayers and updates for this good horse.
Gosh, I hope I'm not being lumped into a "euthanize clique" b/c I agreed earlier with one of paws' posts and said that I was praying for no more pain for Barbaro. I can't imagine that you'd find anyone on this thread who does not hope and pray for a good outcome -- a good outcome to me means that he can live comfortably *and* as a horse was intended to live.
One thing I remember, though, from reading about equine evolution -- as prey animals they are hardwired to act "normal" even when sick/injured so as not to attract the attention of predators. That's why they can seem to "go south" so fast -- when they finally can no longer appear normal things are clearly grim, but in fact they may have been grim for quite a while before that. What people anthropomorphize as "brave" is that instinct to avoid being eaten, but it does not necessarily mean that the horse is not in considerable distress.
More jingles and prayers for Barbaro from me and Barney, and jingles and prayers for everyone who is trying to help him.
gray17htb
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:36 AM
I have my fingers crossed for Barbaro and his whole team. Nothing is more exhausting than going minute by minute with a foundered horse. He is definately getting the best care and thank god for the sling. Best wishes Barbaro, hang in there.
Joanne
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:45 AM
Gosh,
One thing I remember, though, from reading about equine evolution -- as prey animals they are hardwired to act "normal" even when sick/injured so as not to attract the attention of predators. That's why they can seem to "go south" so fast -- when they finally can no longer appear normal things are clearly grim, but in fact they may have been grim for quite a while before that. What people anthropomorphize as "brave" is that instinct to avoid being eaten, but it does not necessarily mean that the horse is not in considerable distress.
I believe they are using objective criteria in judging how much distress he is in (heart rate, fever, appetite, etc.), things that Barbaro would have no control of.
FirstCry
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:47 AM
More prayers and jingles for Barbaro. :sadsmile:
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:49 AM
Team Barbaro!
We all need to continue to light candles, jingle, pray and above all, FOCUS on the health of this horse. Last night was just the beginning!
WE CAN DO IT!!!!! HE CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!
Gracie's Mom
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:51 AM
Good grief, I don't want to be in a euthanasia clique either!! :eek: However, I've had more than enough hands on experience with these sort of things to understand the gravity of this situation.
That said, I am also a *true* believer in miracles. I bred & hand raised a now 7 yr old mare who was born as a premature, septic twin who was given less than 5% odds of survival. After much ado she is now looking at me right now out the window imploring upon me to please bring her a peppermint. The day she rallied was the day my hubby & I had made the decision to give up the fight. Gracie evidently wasn't agreable to that!
The bad thing about miracles is that they don't happen nearly often enough.
No matter the outcome of this, nobody will ever be able to say that the abolute best wasn't done for the horse.
Gracie's Mom
ASB Stars
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:00 AM
Team Barbaro!
We all need to continue to light candles, jingle, pray and above all, FOCUS on the health of this horse. Last night was just the beginning!
WE CAN DO IT!!!!! HE CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!
You are RIGHT VB, and let's not forget our focus. If we lose him, there will be time enough for those who elect to see the glass as half empty-
but for ME- it is half FULL- and climbing...we are HERE for you, you brave bay boy- and we are sending you everything we have!!
GO TEAM BARBARO!
agedbayhunter
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:01 AM
Lit a candle, jingling madly...Hang in there, brave boy! Happy to see you so interested in those carrots. : )
Glimmerglass
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:09 AM
The Daily Racing Forum has good article on the complexity behind any horseman's decision - in particular those top end racers - to euthanize or not. Link: DRF 7-14-06 "Stopping treatment a complicated choice" (http://www.drf.com/news/article/76441.html)
But, Dr. Dean Richardson added, "The reality is that when you come in and see this horse every day, he nickers to you. He is still eating well. He has excellent GI [gastro-intestinal] function. He is capable of walking around the stall. He is maintaining his weight well. His heart rate is low and his temperature's back to normal."
Such seemingly tiny signs are important guideposts in determining whether treatment should continue, horsemen say.
rescuemom
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:09 AM
VB, as always thanks to you for keeping us updated every step of the way.
I continue to be positive about Barbaro's chances for recovery, having seen rescue horses in horrid condition go the distance and make it through. My own mare made it through a mild case of founder to return to soundness. Barbaro's attitude, demeanor and expression all scream to me of a horse who is no where near giving up the fight. The heart of a thoroughbred ... I've asked my late, beloved OTTB to watch over him.
eggbutt
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:17 AM
Team Barbaro!
We all need to continue to light candles, jingle, pray and above all, FOCUS on the health of this horse. Last night was just the beginning!
WE CAN DO IT!!!!! HE CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!
AMEN SISTA!!!!
ponymom64
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:20 AM
Praying for you, Bobby.
And thanks VB for your diligence on the updates. We all appreciate your efforts.
Regalmeans
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:21 AM
I start crying whenever I read this thread.
Bobby, you're in my thoughts & prayers.
dianad
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:22 AM
I feel so much for the Barbaro team, the incredible emotional roller coaster they are on. Any of you who have been caregivers know what I mean. It is so incredibly exhausting. Bless them for fighting every day.
BBowen
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:27 AM
Thank you VirginiaBred. I am not giving up my vigilent prayers and jingles for Bobby and the rest of his team. This horse has so much heart and he continues to be bright even through all of his trials and tribulations. He hasn't given up and I haven't either. More prayers and jingles for Bobby. I was so glad to hear on the news that there was some improvement this morning.
caneycreekfarm
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:30 AM
healing wishes your way Barbaro, you are much loved ...
dcm
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:35 AM
More jingles and prayers today...
Go Barbaro, Go!
GO BOBBY, BO!
Gunnar
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:43 AM
I watched the video and was dumbfounded by how well behaved Bobby is! He looks pretty darn good for being so sick! He seems so vibrant and happy. I just stared at the screen amazed that we have technology that would allow us to save this brave horse and technology that would allow me to see him practically live. What a sight to see!:sadsmile:
Come on Bobby if you are going to do it, do it for us all!:sadsmile: We are all pulling for you. You have a tug on the strings of our hearts!:sadsmile:
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:47 AM
This just in from Tim:
Update 227: Bloodhorse (and many others) confirm Barbaro had a good night last night: Barbaro 'Doing Much Better' Friday Morning (http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=34407). The following is an excerpt:
"He had a good night last night, and even slept on his side," Dr. Dean Richardson told The Associated Press early Friday before re-entering the George D. Widener Hospital for Large Animals to check again on the 3-year-colt. "He's doing much better."
Richardson appeared a bit more upbeat than he was Thursday, when he told a packed news conference that Barbaro has a severe case of the disease laminitis in his left hind leg, and termed his condition "poor."
This confirms what we learned from Michael Matz this morning (update 226).
Sabina Pierce left the following comment:
I'm the Photographer for Penn who has been shooting Big B, as I like to call him as his personality is larger than life. I tried to show in this last set how great he looks and is doing, but also how his will and personality to overcome are identical to the way they have been over his 2 month stay at NBC, he is naughty at times with his nips but a cuddly teddy bear a minute later. I saw all of those attributes as he chewed on my camera bag and hammed for the lense. I've had horses since I was 6 and I've known many more. He is special and a real fighter, the real thing.
Sincerley, Sabina louise pierce (http://www.sabinalouisepierce.com/)
Jeannine Edwards just called. ESPN is planning more coverage, but she is not sure when yet. She'll try to alert us ahead of time.
fish
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:51 AM
I believe they are using objective criteria in judging how much distress he is in (heart rate, fever, appetite, etc.), things that Barbaro would have no control of.
And besides-- the very fact that the horse is still putting on such a good 'front' to stave off the "predators" would indicate to me that he still wants to live.
I've seen horses with "less than a 10% chance" fight and go on while those with much better odds succumb-- and definitely believe the horse will be very clear about whether or not he wants to go on.
I do hope everyone reads the Nureyev story. To tell you the truth, N sounded like a much, much better candidate for euthanasia than Barbaro-- he lost his appetite, was obviously depressed, etc., etc. As long as B. is nickering for his people and gobbling up his feed, I think there's no question about his will to live.
Plumcreek
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:53 AM
I'm going to ask what is possibly a stupid question (and some may consider morbid, I warn you), but I'm very curious about the answer.
In light of how badly things are going for B right now, I am wondering if it is an option to recover any sperm from him (surgically?) if he is going to be lost? What I am thinking is if he does end up needing to be put down, to anesthetize him, perfom whatever procedure (if there is one?) to obtain sperm, then perform euthenasia while he is still under anesthesia? Has anything like this ever been done?
It would be wonderful for B to leave a living legacy, if it was at all possible, though the wonders of modern technology. Does anyone know if this is an option, or a stupid wishful thought if the worst does come. What precious sperm straws those would be!!!
Gracie's Mom
To answer your question:
A QH stallion, Flashy Zipper died a few years ago. He was a very successful, well-known stallion. His, relatively recent, owner had not frozeen any sperm. They sent the testicles to Colo State Univ. and viable sperm was successfully recovered and frozen - quite a few straws worth.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:58 AM
From Bloodhorse.com:
Fans Root for Barbaro's Recovery
by The Associated Press
Date Posted: 7/13/2006 6:08:55 PM
Last Updated: 7/13/2006 6:08:55 PM
By DAN GELSTON
AP Sports Writer
The roses on the lobby table were addressed to "Mr. Barbaro Jackson" and the card said best wishes to a champion horse.
One girl and her family drove more than an hour to deliver a homemade get-well note and to let Barbaro know they were praying for him. Another sign tacked to a fence encouraged the Kentucky Derby (gr. I) winner to "Keep up the Fight!"
While the public outpouring of support was significantly muted Thursday compared to the first days after Barbaro was admitted to the New Bolton Center, fans were still rooting for the ailing colt to recover from his catastrophic injuries and a potentially fatal condition.
"It's pretty sad," said 9-year-old Samantha Layton. "Barbaro is a great racer. He's the only horse I really loved."
Layton asked her parents to make the nearly hour drive from Woodstown, N.J., to the New Bolton Center to drop off a get-well card she made on her computer after hearing of Barbaro's deteriorating condition. She brought a stuffed horse with her ("it's not Barbaro") and hoped Barbaro would somehow show some signs of improvement.
"If there's hope, he'll probably do better, a little better at least," she said.
The fruit and floral deliveries trickled in early Thursday, a contrast to late May when the deliveries never stopped coming. Barbaro received a few carrots, some apples and flowers that came with notes of encouragement.
By early evening, though, red and pink roses overflowed in the lobby. Staffers, one with tears in her eyes, were unsure where to put all the colorful arrangements.
At Churchill Downs on Thursday, where Barbaro won the Kentucky Derby in May, jockey Rafael Bejarano said he still hopes Barbaro recovers.
"It's a very good horse, so we hope for the best," he said. "But I hope they make the decision that's best for the horse."
Jeff Pfannmoeller, of Louisville, watched Barbaro win the Derby and read about his recovery after the Preakness. He said he wouldn't be surprised if Barbaro doesn't make it.
"When a horse damages his leg like that, you know he doesn't have much of chance," he said. "Any other horse they would have put down earlier."
Owners Roy and Gretchen Jackson, who live less than 10 miles down the road from New Bolton in nearby West Grove, Pa., said this week the well wishes have slowed, but they remained touched by all the support and encouragement they've received from Barbaro's fans.
"It's overwhelming," Gretchen Jackson said in late May. "I don't know how Roy and I could participate in responding to their loving kindness throughout his career."
There were only a handful of visitors Thursday who taped their signs expressing prayers and well wishes to the fence that surrounds the sprawling, 650-acre campus. Inside, only a smattering of cards from weeks ago remained, some from May 26. Nothing appeared new and the ones wishing for a speedy recovery seemed sadly dated.
Instead of sending flowers and peppermints, some faithful fans expressed their well wishes on New Bolton Center's online message board.
"Barbaro ... nobody is giving up! Don't you! Miracles do happen! I keep asking St. Anthony, St. Jude, and St. Francis to get that Miracle to you!" said one message posted Thursday.
Most offered their prayers and messages of how much the horse means to them, though one wrote, "it is hard to watch this beautiful horse deteriorate because of man's need to gamble."
Said another: "You've fought the good fight for so long. Please hang in there a little bit longer."
Associated Press writer Elizabeth Dunbar in Louisville, Ky. contributed to this story.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 11:08 AM
Taken from Forbes.com:
Edgar Prado, the jockey credited with saving Barbaro by quickly pulling him up in the Preakness, was devastated by the grim prognosis.
"It's very upsetting," he said. "Barbaro has shown to everyone what a fighter he is. He showed it on the track and with all the surgeries he's had. It just goes to show what kind of courage he has. He's a true champion, and is fighting every step of the way.
"All we can do now is hope and pray. We'll need a miracle, but maybe it will happen."
Carol Ames
Jul. 14, 2006, 11:09 AM
http://www.suntimes.com/email/c.html
Horse Racing
Barbaro's vet: Derby winner 'doing better'
July 14, 2006
BY RICHARD ROSENBLATT ASSOCIATED PRESS
KENNETT SQUARE, Pa.-- Barbaro was doing "much better" Friday morning, a day after his veterinarian said the Kentucky Derby winner was a "long shot" to survive a potentially fatal hoof disease.
"He had a good night last night, and even slept on his side," Dr. Dean Richardson told The Associated Press early Friday before re-entering the George D. Widener Hospital for Large Animals to check again on the 3-year-colt. "He's doing much better."
Richardson appeared a bit more upbeat than he was Thursday, when he told a packed news conference that Barbaro has a severe case of the disease laminitis in his left hind leg, and termed his condition "poor."
Barbaro looked every bit the champion Thursday, but it's how he acts in the next few days that will determine how much longer he lives.
TBpalsx3
Jul. 14, 2006, 11:11 AM
Let's not forget to thank Tim Woolley for the use of his web site to give us all the videos and updates. I rush to my computer every morning and evening just to check on the updates on COTH and Mr. Woolley's site. So happy to have good news this morning. Keep praying and jingling and praying for a miracle!!!
A side story here. Our wonderful equine vet tells a story about Dr. Richardson. My vet said in vet school each candidate for graduation from vet school had a final project like a PHD dissertation. The project had to to be defended orally in front of Vet experts that are selected from around the USA. For weeks all the vet students kept saying "Don't let me get Dr. Dean Richardson. Please not Dr. Richardson." Well our vet was the one who got Dr. Richarson for the oral presentation. He says Dr. Richardson asked many questions and our vet answered very well and correctly. Then Dr. Richardson tried to trick the vet student by asking questions that had nothing to do with his project. Our vet answered " That has nothing to do with this project so I am not answering that." Dr. Richard responded " Now that is what I want to see in a vet." Our vet says they remain in contact even today and even though the odds are against Barbaro that Dr. Richard has great skill, the mental toughness and the compassion needed to do the very best for this horse and pull off a miracle.
So God bless Dr. Richardson, his assistants and everyone involved in taking care of Barbaro.
It is better to believe than to disbelieve, in so doing you bring everything to the realm of possibility.
Albert Einstein
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 11:15 AM
My thanks again to Tim:
Update 228: The official word, New Bolton's press release today: Barbaro's condition is stable (http://www.vet.upenn.edu/newsandevents/news/Barbaro_Update7-14.htm):
Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro spent a restful night and his condition is stable, according to Dr. Dean Richardson, Chief of Surgery. At a news conference yesterday, Dr. Richardson announced that the three-year-old colt has laminitis. Laminitis is a painful condition in horses that can be the result of a number of causes, including excessive weight bearing in one limb. It occurs when laminae, the strong connecting tissues that attach the pedal bone and the inner hoof wall, are inflamed.
"Barbaro was out of his sling for more than 12 hours yesterday, and he had a calm, restful night, sleeping on his side for more than four hours," said Dr. Richardson. "While his condition is stable, it remains extremely serious."
Gunnar
Jul. 14, 2006, 11:16 AM
http://www.sabinalouisepierce.com/Barbaro.htm
Thanks for this great photo. I printed it out and put it in front of my face at my desk. Michael and Bobby in a tender moment. I love it!:sadsmile:
VB thanks again for your diligence in keeping us up todate. We would be lost without you!
Carol Ames
Jul. 14, 2006, 11:24 AM
Was Barbaros' initial injury ,the fractures the type which result from twisting, unlevel loading or impact?:confused:
Where'sMyWhite
Jul. 14, 2006, 11:27 AM
Glimmerglass,
Could you include the text of the DRF article? Thanks in advance...
Barbaro, keep up the good work! :yes:
Joanne
Jul. 14, 2006, 11:55 AM
I would appreciate seeing the article text posted here, too. Nanny software on my computer has deemed it "inappropriate" (i.e. gambling).
moonriverfarm
Jul. 14, 2006, 12:02 PM
I thought B looked remarkably good in the video - as bright and alert as my boys are in their stalls - and a lot more spoiled! It just warmed my heart to see him prick his ears and walk camly out of his stall like he was totally okay with his surroundings and situation.
We won't see many horses like him in a lifetime....he's courageous, smart, and the consummate gentleman. The Gregory Peck of horses!!!!!!
:D: :D: :D: GO BARBARO!!!!!!!! YOU'RE OUR HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
411
Jul. 14, 2006, 12:16 PM
It's amazing to me how one horse has touched so many lives. I wonder if he knows the whole country, or world even, is hoping and praying for him. God bless everyone who is trying to save this magnificant horse. I have no doubt that they will only do what's best for him.
So happy to hear he had a good night. It's clear that he's not ready to give up yet.
Keep fighting, Bobby... You can do it!
Mega Rock
Jul. 14, 2006, 12:22 PM
I would appreciate seeing the article text posted here, too. Nanny software on my computer has deemed it "inappropriate" (i.e. gambling).
Here is the article in text............
Stopping treatment a complicated choice. By GLENYE CAIN
LEXINGTON, Ky. - Thursday's news that Barbaro's prognosis had darkened because of acute laminitis in his left hind leg does not mean, his surgeon said, that the colt's destruction is imminent.
But complications like laminitis often mark a crossroads as owners and veterinarians try to determine which course - euthanasia or continued treatment - is in an animal's best interest. That decision, horsemen say, often is complex. It involves objective criteria like the statistical chances of success. But it also involves subjective interpretation of a horse's physical and mental willingness to endure treatment. And that information can change on an hourly basis.
"The reality is that we are doing the best we can to make the appropriate judgments," Barbaro's surgeon Dr. Dean Richardson said Thursday. "And that's really - it is subjective. But there's a lot of people involved in making this decision. And literally every single person involved in making this decision cares only for the well-being of this horse."
In deciding to treat Barbaro's laminitis, owners Roy and Gretchen Jackson are taking into account the colt's current comfort level and his long-term prognosis, Richardson said.
"We discussed at length the fact that his prognosis for both life and long-term comfort has been significantly diminished by this particular complication," said Richardson, who called Barbaro's prognosis "poor."
But, Richardson added, "The reality is that when you come in and see this horse every day, he nickers to you. He is still eating well. He has excellent GI [gastro-intestinal] function. He is capable of walking around the stall. He is maintaining his weight well. His heart rate is low and his temperature's back to normal."
Such seemingly tiny signs are important guideposts in determining whether treatment should continue, horsemen say.
"I think you always have to weigh whether the treatment is going anywhere, and obviously you don't want the animal to suffer," said Stuart Janney III. Janney's family campaigned the champion Ruffian, who suffered a catastrophic breakdown in 1975 during a match race with Foolish Pleasure at Belmont Park. The Janneys agreed to surgery, a new and unusual option at the time, but the effort failed and Ruffian was humanely destroyed on July 7, 1975.
"We felt we had to do it," Janney said of the surgery. "But it had to be with the understanding not to put an animal through senseless suffering for a result that wasn't going to be positive."
"It's a gray area," said Gus Koch, manager of Claiborne Farm in Paris, Ky. Claiborne stood 1973 Triple Crown winner Secretariat, who died in 1989 after battling laminitis for several weeks. "In Secretariat's case, we went into it with the attitude that we are not going to let this horse suffer needlessly. He started to recover, and we thought he was improving, and then he regressed. It's a painful condition, and when he regressed, that's when the decision was made to euthanize him. He was in pain. The main decision was that the horse was suffering and it looked hopeless."
Veterinarians could tell objectively that Secretariat's condition was worsening, Koch said, because they could measure the rotation of the coffin bone, the main bone inside the horse's foot, which rotates down and eventually through the sole of the hoof in severe cases of laminitis. But it wasn't just the X-rays that indicated Secretariat was in trouble; it was his general demeanor, including a decreased appetite, weight loss, and general discomfort.
"He had pain, and he showed it like any horse," Koch recalled. "He was sore, and it was hard to keep condition on him." Barbaro has what Richardson called "intensive pain management," including epidurals, to keep him comfortable. So far, he hasn't shown any of the disheartening signs the Claiborne staff saw in Secretariat. But if he does, the gray area will become a bright line. "If we can't keep him comfortable, we will not continue," Richardson said.
*jumper*
Jul. 14, 2006, 12:23 PM
So glad he's doing well this morning! The fact that his vitals are good as well as him having a good attitude about everything tells us that he's not ready to go yet. After waking up to the headline saying Barbaro was perhaps inches from deathyesterday, its good to wake up today and see that he's doing well.
Keep fighting Barbaro!
RoseBud143
Jul. 14, 2006, 12:55 PM
Jingles Jingles Jingles and more major jingles!!!! My Prayers are there for alll those helping this amazing horse!!
eggbutt
Jul. 14, 2006, 01:02 PM
Nice update and great photos posted on msnbc.com at 12:35 PM:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13790977/
I can see the tail hair loss in the photos....he can always grow a new tail can't he?!! He looks thin but bright eyed for all he's been through though doesn't he?
Jingles are jangling very hard!
M.K.Smith
Jul. 14, 2006, 01:08 PM
<jingles>
Barbaro looks so bright eyed and perky in all of his photos that it is difficult realize that he is in such grave danger. The look in a horses eye can tell so much. Barbaro hasn't given up yet... we can only hope that medical science and treatment can help him. He has been such a trooper through everything that I can only pray that he keeps on fighting.
I was so glad to read that today's press release is more positive. With a surgery that major it would be virtually impossible to not have some ups & downs. He's in great hands and I just jingle, hope, & pray that the laminitis is a bump and not the great downturn.
<jingles>
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 01:51 PM
From The New York Times:
Barbaro's Condition Stabilizes
By JOE DRAPE (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/d/joe_drape/index.html?inline=nyt-per) and MARIA NEWMAN (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/n/maria_newman/index.html?inline=nyt-per)
Published: July 14, 2006
KENNETT SQUARE, Pa, July 14 — Doctors treating Barbaro (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/b/barbaro_race_horse/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier), the injured Kentucky Derby winner, said today that while the colt’s medical condition remained dire, he was stable and responding to treatment.
“Barbaro was out of his sling for more than 12 hours yesterday, and he had a calm, restful night, sleeping on his side for more than four hours,” said Dr. Dean Richardson, chief of surgery at the George D. Widener Hospital here.
Still, the doctor said, his condition “remains extremely serious.”
Barbaro underwent surgery on Wednesday on his left hind leg to try to treat the laminitis that had formed in the last few days. The procedure, a hoof wall resection, removed about 80 percent of Barbaro’s left rear hoof.
Dr. Richardson said on Thursday that the procedure was made necessary by the severity of the painful infection, which tends to form when one limb bears too much weight. Bones in Barbaro’s other hind leg were shattered as he ran in the Preakness Stakes; that leg was surgically repaired May 21 and remains in a cast.
Doctors were guarded on Thursday about Barbaro’s chances for recovery, saying they had been significantly diminished by the laminitis. The condition is not uncommon in horses in the weeks after surgery, they said, but Barbaro’s case was especially severe.
For the moment, the main priority of the University of Pennsylvania (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/u/university_of_pennsylvania/index.html?inline=nyt-org) veterinary team that is treating Barbaro is pain management. Dr. Richardson said on Thursday that if the medical team was unable to keep the horse from suffering severely, the owners, Roy and Gretchen Jackson, may be faced with the need to have him destroyed.
“There is no vet out there who went into this to inflict pain on an animal,” Dr. Richardson said.
Barbaro, a horse who once seemed to have the Triple Crown in his sights, is now simply trying to survive.
He has endured four leg-cast changes and a three-hour surgical procedure late Saturday in which a plate and screws from the initial surgery were replaced. The colt did not come out of that surgery as well as he did after the initial lifesaving operation in May, needing 12 hours to shake off the effects of anesthesia and return to his stall in the facility’s intensive-care unit.
Since then, concerns about infections in Barbaro’s repaired right hind leg and the previously healthy left one have added to feelings of unease.
Ever since Barbaro’s horrific breakdown in the Preakness transfixed the nation, and then his startlingly smooth recovery in the ensuing days lifted the spirits of everyone involved with the horse, the Jacksons have remained committed to the expensive goal of returning the colt to a normal, pain-free life, albeit one away from the racetrack.
They also have said they were prepared for the ups and downs that would accompany a convalescence that could take months. Laminitis loomed as a potential problem for Barbaro from the beginning of his treatment, experts said.
“It goes hand in hand” with major leg problems, said Dr. Larry Bramlage, an equine surgeon in Kentucky. “Laminitis is usually the terminal event for any horse that has had a severe orthopedic surgery.”
While horses with laminitis can be saved, the prospect of Barbaro having to battle that condition, as well as other infections stemming from the original surgery, could mean extreme discomfort for the colt that would undermine the healing process.
Joe Drape reported from Kennett Square, Pa., for this article, and Maria Newman from New York.
Lambie Boat
Jul. 14, 2006, 02:01 PM
after seeing those beautiful photos of Edgar kissing B., Michael Matz and B., the vet staff and B. etc....I am sitting here in my office, sunny day, blubbering like a little school girl. :rolleyes: How embarrassing! With all the major horrible political warfare going on around the world right now, possible WWIII beginning, global warming, Darfur, etc , I am wailing over Barbaro. I'm so grateful for the updates, so thankful for the news that sounds more hopeful then yesterday's news....so wanting for this horse to make it. I choose to focus on this horse today. Maybe he represents something to us in America?
RodeoQueen
Jul. 14, 2006, 02:07 PM
VB thanks so very much for continued updates on my hero, Barbaro. So glad to hear he was able to rest last evening, and praying and jingling like mad for his recovery. C'mon Barbaro, you can DO IT - don't give up!!!!
Shay Darra
Jul. 14, 2006, 02:14 PM
Feisomeday - It's not embarrassing to cry over this magnificent animal and what he's going through. It's an expression of how deeply you care. For those of us who are passionate about these incredible animals - how can you not cry? And I know it's even harder for those of us who have been down this road with our own beloved partners. They can bring us the most awesome incredible moments in our journeys together, but can also take us to rock bottom when we have to endure their loss.
Prayers and good thoughts to this amazing animal and his extraordinary team! We're cheering for you, Bobby.
SD
ivy62
Jul. 14, 2006, 02:19 PM
Some one posted his story and I want to send it to someone except I cannot find it...whoever had it please send it to me. Thanks, This story gives us hope in the face if reality it being so bad but BArbaro is not ready to go you could see it in his face...He wants more carrots!!!!! Keep that blood carrot level high.....
Helen of NC
Jul. 14, 2006, 02:26 PM
Here's the Nureyev story again:
http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=6788
Amazing, isn't it?
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 02:52 PM
It's not embarrassing to cry over this magnificent animal and what he's going through. It's an expression of how deeply you care.
Prayers and good thoughts to this amazing animal and his extraordinary team! We're cheering for you, Bobby.
And WE are a part of the team. ALL of us!!!
Keep lighting those candles and jingling and praying everyone!!!!!!!!!
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 02:59 PM
This just posted. Did anyone see the tv spot???
Update 229: Jeannine Edwards did a piece on ESPN2, a comment from Anne:
Just saw Jeannine Edwards on ESPN (2:10pm est) doing an update on Barbaro. MUCH more upbeat than yesterday. She mentioned that Barbaro's internet fans were devastated and that NB received about 25 baskets of goodies for Barbaro and the staff after yesterday's news. Hopefully this will be run again all day long......very uplifting. Did anyone else catch it?
She is about to go live on ESPN news (its 3:13 now), and I think she will be on Sports Center tonight.
ESPN has some cool pictures of Bobby (http://search.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=barbaro&next=null&page=images&language=en-us) and a few were added to the New Bolton site (http://www.vet.upenn.edu/newsandevents/news/BarbaroPhotos.htm).
411
Jul. 14, 2006, 03:18 PM
Feisomeday, it's not just you... I can't look at pictures of Barbaro without crying either. There is something about those images that are haunting to me, especially his eyes... :sadsmile: I hope to one day see photos of him healthy, and happily grazing in a lush pasture.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 03:18 PM
Update 230: Edgar made his third visit to Bobby today, he's all class, and of course won the ESPY too I believe! Like his fans, Barbaro's jockey still hopeful (http://www.newsday.com/sports/horseracing/ny-spprado0715,0,3512672.story?coll=ny-sports-headlines), the following is an excerpt:
The news left Prado scrambling to make a trip to visit the horse at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center in Kennett Square, Penn. He just returned from California, leaves for a race in Florida tomorrow and heads to Peru, his homeland, on Sunday.
"The drive is really far and the traffic was awful, but we had to do this," Prado's wife, Lilian, said. "It was the only time he could see (Barbaro)."
The injured horse's stall felt more like a fruit stand than a barn, Prado said. Baskets of apples, carrots and candy -- all sent by the horse's fans across America - were everywhere.
Prado grabbed several carrots and fed the horse, which chomped down more than 10, the jockey said. It was an affirmation of the good appetite Dr. Richardson had described the day before, Prado added.
"The horse appears to be handling things well," he said. "He wanted to get out of the stall today, which is a good sign."
pawsplus
Jul. 14, 2006, 03:23 PM
Honestly, I hope so much that I'm wrong! Sounds like he's handling it, and I agree, as long as he is, why not keep trying.
sketcher
Jul. 14, 2006, 03:32 PM
and now - in his other hind leg - the foot has been 80% cut away. This is NOT rocket science.
About 15 years ago, I had a mare who foundered twice and had a hoof wall resection both times (in both front feet). Her founder was prettty severe and I want to say that she had nearly as much hoof wall removed as Barbaro. She had a good deal of rotation and both times went back almost to normal. She recovered enough both times to be trail ridden when she healed. It was truly amazing how the resection allowed her to heal with a relatively small amount of pain.
I think the owners and people at New Bolton are doing the right thing...as long as he seems relatively comfortable and has a will to live, then he is very lucky to have people that are willing to try and save him.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 03:33 PM
Update 231: Daphne has this report on Jeannine's 3:15 report from New Bolton:
**Alex** my tivo is on overtime and I just watched Jeannine 3:15 update.. good reporting. She did indicate that this is just a "shred more positive" than yesterday- that is what I heard. She spoke about Barbaro being able to sleep about 4-5 hours, also on his side, get up and down, being out of the sling(everything we've read) but that this is still (as we know) very serious. She mentioned all the floral/goody deliveries to NB and that the NB staff gobbled them down, beginning last evening. Ok, she didn't use the work gobble, this was my word. Also, many more deliveries expected later.
Jeannine will be on Sports Center (6pm) with a new report.
Fred
Jul. 14, 2006, 03:51 PM
' a shred more positive' is great news. Anything better is good.
His bright eyes and courage give me hope.
Hang in there, Bobby!
thank you VA for the updates...
maple_brook
Jul. 14, 2006, 04:08 PM
Come on Barbaro!!!! We are all praying that you make it. You have the heart and courage of a champion. If anyone can beat these odds, you can!
Auventera Two
Jul. 14, 2006, 04:16 PM
I've been following Barbaro with extreme interest and I've been jingling like mad since this all started. But something just strikes me as totally bizarre and bugs me so much. Ever since he went into the hospital, all the articles and updates talk about how many TREATS Bobby gets. Peppermints, apples, carrots, and cookies by the dozens. All along I've been saying NO NO NO, not so many!!! I know my own horse would have foundered weeks ago if given that many treats! Does anybody else but me think this might be a contributing factor? And the jockey's quote above saying Bobby scarfed down more than 10 carrots in one sitting while he was there. :eek: This bothers me so much. Part of me just can't allow myself to think that a hospital of this magnitude could allow so many treats, but who knows??? I'd think he'd be on a stricter diet to avoid the possibility of founder. Horses can only handle so many sugars.
cartera45
Jul. 14, 2006, 04:17 PM
I have to say that, even though the circumstances are dire, the pictures of him sort of swinging around in his sling made me smile. They reminded me of my daughter in her Johnny Jump Up - she loved that thing. He really is just a big baby who seems to wake up every morninng asking, "What ya got new for me to try today?"
Kenike
Jul. 14, 2006, 04:20 PM
well, all this makes me feel a little better...especially since each hour is one more hour he's given a chance and proving the naysayers wrong (which I love!) :)
Thanks, again, VB. Also thanks to Tim for the use of his site and all the updates
chawley
Jul. 14, 2006, 04:23 PM
Feisomeday, it's not just you... I can't look at pictures of Barbaro without crying either. There is something about those images that are haunting to me, especially his eyes... :sadsmile: I hope to one day see photos of him healthy, and happily grazing in a lush pasture.
I was down on the rail that day at Pimlico and they drove the ambulance right by me as they took him back to the barn. He looked out over the crowd as they drove by and I will NEVER forget the look on his face....it haunts me. It wasn't fear, but rather desperation. Pull through Barbaro - we're praying hard for you!
Also, Edgar Prado is a class act.
luvmytbs
Jul. 14, 2006, 04:29 PM
And the jockey's quote above saying Bobby scarfed down more than 10 carrots in one sitting while he was there. :eek: This bothers me so much. Part of me just can't allow myself to think that a hospital of this magnitude could allow so many treats, but who knows??? I'd think he'd be on a stricter diet to avoid the possibility of founder. Horses can only handle so many sugars.
This was discussed with a vet at Riddle a while back, when a friend of mine had her mare there.
The concensus given by the attending vets were, that the sugar in carrots is much different then the ones causing founder.
catknsn
Jul. 14, 2006, 04:33 PM
I'm sure they're controlling his nutrition as carefully as everything else, but I do hope all those excess goodies are being diverted to a horse rescue or other appropriate destination - I can think of a lot of rescued horses I've seen recently who'd definitely benefit from those apples and carrots!
summerhorse
Jul. 14, 2006, 04:46 PM
Yeah I can't imagine he could eat enough carrots (well be given) to bother his blood sugar. And he's probably burning up calories at a pretty good rate. he's certainly not fat. I can't imagine they'd put this much work into him and not be monitoring his treats!
I'm EBO
Jul. 14, 2006, 04:48 PM
I hope that the treats aren't a factor (although they would be for my Insulin Resistant horse). The founder came from the extra weight bearing that the right leg was doing and was not unexpected. Just like one wouldn't worry overly about the diet of a horse who had contracted founder from a retained placenta, we probably don't have to worry about BB eating too many carrots. His lack of weight probably adds a little insurance there, too.
charlieo
Jul. 14, 2006, 05:22 PM
More prayer, more jingles, more candles, more positive energy, com'on folks, we can do this. Be well, Barbaro!, Be well
nightsong
Jul. 14, 2006, 05:33 PM
Carrots are a common horse food item in some countries. In England, they were a common accompaniment to oats (for instance, 5 quarts oats, 10 lbs. carrots).
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 05:39 PM
Update 235: Nice to see NBC offering two releases today, this one 4pm: Barbaro's condition remains stable (http://www.vet.upenn.edu/newsandevents/news/Barbaro_Update7-14-1.htm):
Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro remains in stable condition according to his veterinarians at the George D. Widener Hospital at the University of Pennsylvania. "His vital signs, including heart rate and pulse, remain good," said Dr. Dean Richardson, Chief of Surgery. "We are treating his laminitis aggressively and he continues to respond well and is acceptably comfortable."
Laminitis is a severe, painful condition in horses that can be fatal.
"As I said at the press conference on Thursday, we monitor his condition very closely because signs can change quickly," said Dr. Richardson. "However, it's important to remember that Barbaro's treatment could easily continue for several weeks, and if all goes well, even months. Our goal is to keep him as comfortable as possible, and clearly that comfort level will be a major indicator for our treatment decisions." Dr. Richardson also emphasized that Barbaro, as evident in the footage and still photos released yesterday, has a very positive attitude.
His positive attitude was noted by Peter during his visit today (Peter noted "good frame of mind").
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 05:50 PM
Thanks again to Alex & Tim ~
Update 236: A Barbaro Vigil is planned for tomorrow (Saturday) at 7 pm east coast time. I think Sheila's comment sums it up best:
I am going to bring my kids into this, even though it looks like we're set for 7pm EST. After seeing me cry I finally let in on why last night so it makes sense for them to be involved. The more positive energy, the better! Thanks for the suggestion Anita. I agree that we all my have different methods - for some it's prayer, some it's meditation, some its just sending positive energy, but we are united in our love for the big guy and I think that we should stay that way - united.
I don't think it matters how long the vigil, just if you can spare a thought, prayer, hope, sentiment etc. for Bobby at 7 pm tomorrow night (est), whereever you are, whatever you are doing.
Roberta wrote a lovely Bobby poem which I am reproducing below:
To Barbaro
With pride and joy
Flying wingless
Unconquerable
Roses on your neck
A new, more perilous race
Your spirit, determination and trust
Allied with skill, loving kindness and compassion
Against the frailties of flesh and bone and hoof
Against despair
Against death
May victory again be yours
Roberta Goodman 7/14/06
carol_okc
Jul. 14, 2006, 06:03 PM
Beautiful.. that just put tears in these old eyes...
Tomorrow evening, 6 central. Bobbie, we'll all be here for you!
Laurel&HollyFarm
Jul. 14, 2006, 06:16 PM
I have seen it done before where everyone turns on their head lights at a specific time in support of someone. It would have to be during the day on a non-rainy weekday. How is the weather forecast for noon on Monday? Can we all turn on our head lights to let Barbaro and his connections know how much we care and how much we are pulling for him? What do you think and how can we get this to the biggest number of people before then? I bet we could light up the nation if we could just let people know. What do you think?
Home Again Farm
Jul. 14, 2006, 06:48 PM
VirginiaBred,
Many, many thanks for all the updates. I have the utmost faith in Bobbie's trainer, owners and vets to do what is right. If any hore has the heart to beat these odds this one does. Jingling on and on and on for the horse with heart....................... :yes:
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 06:50 PM
Update 237: The Sports Center's piece was nice and upbeat, while of course respecting the true reality of the situation. It was nice to see Jeannine note Edgar's visit and use footage from the Derby (yeah!) The gifts look great.
Here is the site for Kennett Florists (http://www.kennettflorist.net/).
Tim ran Randy's Bullet (http://www.timwoolleyracing.com/horses/#Randy%27s%20Bullet) today. He was a closing third on the turf at Colonial Downs. He had not run for a year. Iit was nice to see him come back, and Tim was very happy with him. I have mentioned Randy before, he is a cool horse to ride, but really is the type of horse to benefit from Fair Hill. He loves to go "out back", away from the training tracks, to do much of his training. (You can see me on Randy (http://www.timwoolleyracing.com/gallery/) in a couple of the pictures in our gallery).
Mike Rea continues to make steady progress in his long recovery! (http://mikerea.blogspot.com/2006/07/hello-everyone.html)
Finally, my perspective on Bobby's situation today. I am totally psyched he remains comfortable, but remain very conscious of the seriousness of his condition. Edgar Prado is simply an amazing human being. In England he would be considered for Sports Personality of the Year (top Jockeys in england are high profile stars); I wonder if there is something similar here.
Arcadien
Jul. 14, 2006, 06:53 PM
I remember sitting on my porch that day shortly after 9/11 when they had candlelit ceremonies all over, I couldn't attend any but I joined legions just lighting a candle on my own, watching it flicker in the dusk, sending prayers to all affected by the attackes...
I think I'll do the same for Barbaro tomorrow night at 7 as I send my positive thoughts to him and his people... anyone else?
Arcadien
War Admiral
Jul. 14, 2006, 07:03 PM
Plan to have a nice quiet hand-graze with Barbaro's sort-of-great-great-uncle, another big grand bay Turn-To TB who survived against the odds, and we'll both be praying that Barbaro gets to enjoy the same one day.
canyonoak
Jul. 14, 2006, 07:12 PM
for anyone who wants to nominate Prado as Sports Illustrated's Sportsman of the Year:
<< Many thanks for the nomination of Edward Prado for SI's SPORTSMAN OF THE YEAR. As you know the award is given in December, and the decision is made by SI's editors. If you wish to send letters supporting your candidate, you may send them to the Letters Department at:
letters@si.timeinc.com.
All mail is read by at least two editors.
Cordially,
SPORTS ILLUSTRATED Letters Department
luvmytbs
Jul. 14, 2006, 07:19 PM
for anyone who wants to nominate Prado as Sports Illustrated's Sportsman of the Year:
<< Many thanks for the nomination of Edward Prado for SI's SPORTSMAN OF THE YEAR. As you know the award is given in December, and the decision is made by SI's editors. If you wish to send letters supporting your candidate, you may send them to the Letters Department at:
letters@si.timeinc.com.
All mail is read by at least two editors.
Cordially,
SPORTS ILLUSTRATED Letters Department
That is an excellent idea! He sure deserves it.
ivy62
Jul. 14, 2006, 07:20 PM
does anybody know what kind of infection he has in his right foot? If it is an anaerobe the mention of Hyperbaric medicine would absolutely apply. Do they culture equine wounds? If would believe that with his vital signs remaining normal that is a VERY positive sign.....especially the temp. and blood pressure.
Thank you again VB for your updates. I cannot even imagine if I were the one who's horse it is, we are pulling for him so hard......God bless all around him, they doing a great job....Jingles from NY!
oldgraymare
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:32 PM
Barbaro truly has the heart and courage of a champion. Many jingles being sent from Ohio.
Levi's owner
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:41 PM
My horse has EMS and the vet said absolutely no treats - not even carrots, or apples, due to the possibility of laminitis or founder. :confused: Please believe me, I am NOT trying to blame anyone! I think Barbaro has gotten FIRST CLASS care! This is just one little thing that I don't understand. I'm sure the vets know way more than I do! But I wonder why my own vet said it's bad and the Barbaro vets don't think it is a problem.
Hopefully Edgar was giving him baby carrots. I remember when he first went in they said they were diverting the treats to other horses. I am sure that if it wasn't good for Bobby, they wouldn't allow it.
I think they have so far made the right decisions for Bobby. When Dr. Richardson said in the press conference that Bobby nickers every time he goes in the stall, plus the wonderful look in his eye, I feel he can pull through, even with the odds. It's hard to give up on a horse that nickers at you;-(
incentive
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:51 PM
I've been jingling here in VA even though I haven't posted on this thread for a while. The poem was fabulous. "Compassion" was the word that struck me most. Many may question the rightness of what is being done for Barbero when there are so many other critters whose great needs are not being met. I strongly feel that those responsible for the constant care of and the decision making surrounding Bobby demonstrate overwhelming compassion for him. Compassion this great must certainly flow beyond the boundries of this one situation. From goodness comes yet more goodness, even though that may not be apparent right away. I wouldn't for one moment question the motives/ethics/ whatever you want to call it of these folks.
Many thanks to VB for the continued updates. Old Lady on a TB did it for us in the aftermath of last year's hurricanes. VB is doing it for us now.
We need to keep the positive vibes coming to support all who are working so hard to give Bobby's story as happy an ending as it can have. Hang in there, Bobby!!! Your courage inspires us all!!!!!!!!!!
Sannois
Jul. 14, 2006, 08:57 PM
:cry: I will light a candle for Bobby and all his people at 7 PM tomorrow night! ~ Jingling still!
Levi's owner
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:04 PM
I know previous posters were concerned at how skinny he looks. When Levi was in the clinic for one summer, he looked like Bobby. Those TBs drop weight if you look at them wrong, then add in the lose of muscle mass.......
Bobby will make it! POSITIVE ENERGY!!!
aahunterjumper
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:05 PM
Thanks again VB for the updates! I have Barbaro and his family in my prayers, jingles and thoughts. Glad to hear Edgar Prado got to visit again and won the ESPY!
charlieo
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:05 PM
Ditto, tomorrow at 7
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:14 PM
From the Baltimore Sun
Barbaro responding well to treatment
Fighting case of laminitis, Derby winner 'acceptably comfortable,' for now
By Paul McMullen
Sun Reporter
Published July 14, 2006, 4:10 PM CDT
KENNETT SQUARE, Pa. -- The waiting game continues for Barbaro, his owners, trainer and the doctors treating him.
Thursday brought a bleak update, but today, the colt's veterinary surgeon provided more encouraging news in two statements issued by the University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine. The most recent came at 4 p.m.
"His vital signs, including heart rate and pulse, remain good," Dr. Dean Richardson said in the statement. "We are treating his laminitis aggressively and he continues to respond well and is acceptably comfortable."
Barbaro's comfort is a major factor in the difficult deliberations involved in deciding whether to euthanize the horse.
"We monitor his condition very closely because signs can change quickly," Richardson said in the statement. "However, it's important to remember that Barbaro's treatment could easily continue for several weeks, and if all goes well, even months. Our goal is to keep him as comfortable as possible, and clearly that comfort level will be a major indicator for our treatment decisions."
The colt's owners, Roy and Gretchen Jackson, and trainer Michael Matz are in constant communication with Richardson.
Barbaro's medical crisis began less than a furlong into the Preakness, when he sustained three fractures in his right hind foot.
Those injuries required more surgery last Saturday. Wednesday morning, the horse underwent a partial hoof wall resection to treat what Richardson described as a "catastrophic" case of laminitis.
Barbaro continued to spend most of his time in a sling supporting his weight.
"Barbaro was out of his sling for more than 12 hours yesterday, and he had a calm, restful night, sleeping on his side for more than four hours," Richardson said in a statement released this morning.
"While his condition is stable, it remains extremely serious."
Jinx
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:18 PM
Ive been amazed that here in Wi they have had the Barbaro story on EVERY newscast this week!!!!!!!!!!! Ive also seen stories on the major cable network news stations
And actually heard i think the pres of the TB association or something like that on a news cast talking about how in this time of global strife Barbaro is an innocent soul fighting -- something EVERYONE can hope for and believe in. Something to root for. Something innocent. Almost a hero -- a role model...I must say I agree.
Still thinking of you buddy
Cashela
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:22 PM
That poem on page 43 is LOVELY. It has brought big tears to my eyes. Jingling like crazy for Barbaro.
cartera45
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:28 PM
Since Barbaro's laminitis is not related to diet or metabolic factors, his diet would not be as much of a factor as a horse who founders on grass or carbohydrate overload, etc. He has a mechanical form of laminitis affecting only one hoof. The systemic type, caused by diet or metabolic problems, would likely affect all or at least the front hooves. It is really important that Barbaro is able to lie down for several hours at a time so he can get the weight off all four feet.
ElonGrad1997
Jul. 14, 2006, 09:47 PM
Is anyone planning on actually GOING to NB and doing a vigil there...outside? I'm closeby, so I'd be game! What do you think?
VirginiaBred
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:04 PM
I think that would be completely amazing. I wish I were close................
Light a candle there for me, if you do go.
Susan P
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:27 PM
When the NB vet came to my farm to take care of the rescued horses he suggested I go there and ask for some because there was more than Barbaro could ever eat, surely most of it has gone to waste. I agree, donating to a rescue would have been a great idea. However there aren't any rescues close enough to make the trip cost effective to pick up treats. Perhaps some of the employees took some home at least. I would have loved to have gone and gotten some, I went through so many apples and carrots when I had Nate and Kelly and Brick, all fosters that they would have really enjoyed them.
I hope Barbaro gets to enjoy many treats, apples and carrots for many years to come.
I'm sure they're controlling his nutrition as carefully as everything else, but I do hope all those excess goodies are being diverted to a horse rescue or other appropriate destination - I can think of a lot of rescued horses I've seen recently who'd definitely benefit from those apples and carrots!
mairzeadoats
Jul. 14, 2006, 10:38 PM
It's easy to second guess other people's choices. It's not easy to live through the toughest times you can go through with a horse you love.
The Jackson's behavior throughout this has been impeccable and beyond reproach. For anybody to question their choices or the quality of his care, in this very difficult and painful time, is reprehensible.
The fact is they bred and raised this colt and know him better than anybody on this forum.
The fact is that they've made it clear by their actions and instructions to their vets that Barbaro's comfort and quality of life are their only concern.
They see Barbaro *every day* and in this way are able not only to contribute to his care, but personally assess and assure themselves of his his well-being and comfort.
They've chosen to spare no expense. However much some may envy it, the fact is it's their money to spend as they choose. (besides, the lessons the vets learn from this will benefit many others, as will the many donations to the Barbaro fund.)
The fact is that they keep 8 rescued ottbs at their farm. And we don't know what else they've done for ottbs or what they contribute to whom. Frankly, it's not our business..
I'm praying for Barbaro. I've seen / known several laminitic horses in my life and so I do feel some hope for him.
The first had rotated both front feet right through the soles, shortly after qualifying for the olympic team. His new owner, her vet and farrier rehabbed him to the point that she was able to compete him to gp.
The 2nd had chronic laminitis, but was sound for flat work most of the time and always sound for turnout. He had 1 bout while in my care, which we treated promptly.
The 3rd rotated both front feet right through the soles. She had about 25% resections of both toes, from the ground to coronet bands. She didn't have the quality of care that Barbaro is getting, so suffered terribly for months, but had the best available to her owner at the time. Still, she carried her pregnancy to term and foaled out a healthy foal. She remained sound for light riding for several years and probably would have for much longer, but fell into the wrong hands.
The 4th was in the care of a bo who was being well paid to provide injury care at the time and didn't bother to notify the horse owner or provide any care for the laminitis. The owner, who was unable to come to the barn for several days, came out and found him down with both coffin bones rotated through the soles. She had him euthanized immediately.
I've seen one horse with significant rotation in treatment by the equine podiatrist I studied with. I've also seen video of that podiatrist treating foundered feral horses in the Caribbean. The government is hoping he'll be able to restore them to enough health to resume breeding and reproducing.
I also diagnosed 1 horse with chronic laminitis when the owner buted her so the symptoms were completely masked when the vet arrived.
In every case but one that I've seen, there has been what I would call a successful outcome. The one that failed was a failure of the bo, imho.
My understanding is that a resection provides a place for infection and abcessing to drain, reducing pressure on the remaining hoof and foot.
Barbaro is bright-eyed and eating. I agree that his low weight is actually a help at this time.
annikak
Jul. 14, 2006, 11:11 PM
Thanks, VB for the updates- glad that today was okay- and no backwards steps were taken...
Go Barbaro!
Jingles....
(happy 2 years on the COTH, VB! I sure am glad you are here! ;) )
Mardi
Jul. 14, 2006, 11:31 PM
there are over 800 now (last night it was about 600).
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=barba
Don't know if this exact link will work, but it's the best I could do :)
eks
Jul. 14, 2006, 11:41 PM
I love Edward Prado, and I know if it weren't for his amazing ability, Barbaro would never have made it. But I really feel that Barbaro, with all of the adversity he has been through and how he continues to fight each day should get the award. I'm not sure if SI would consider awarding this to an animal, but I sure am going to write them a letter to support Barbaro...
for anyone who wants to nominate Prado as Sports Illustrated's Sportsman of the Year:
<< Many thanks for the nomination of Edward Prado for SI's SPORTSMAN OF THE YEAR. As you know the award is given in December, and the decision is made by SI's editors. If you wish to send letters supporting your candidate, you may send them to the Letters Department at:
letters@si.timeinc.com.
All mail is read by at least two editors.
Cordially,
SPORTS ILLUSTRATED Letters Department
Kenike
Jul. 15, 2006, 12:04 AM
I don't think he'd work for Sportsman of the Year, but maybe for Athlete of the Year?
VirginiaBred
Jul. 15, 2006, 07:03 AM
My continued thanks to Alex & Tim:
Update 239: Just spoke to Michael Matz and Barbaro had another comfortable night last night (friday night). Dean Richardson called Michael. Michael said he was up and down 2 - 3 times, again showing that he is OK using himself to move around. All vital signs are normal.
I also saw Kathy Anderson, who saw Bobby around 4pm yesterday (she tried to call me last night but apparently my phone was on the blink). She also said that when she saw him he looked the same (as her positive report the day before). She also noted the pulse in his front feet was normal. She saw 35 baskets of goodies being delivered as she was leaving!
updated 7:15 am, saturday morning
Update 238: Added an update to the Fan Media page (http://www.timwoolleyracing.com/news/2006/05/barbaro_multime.php) that links to Barbaro Livingston's work and Anna's lovely pastel (http://www.txjest.phanfare.com/album/72683).
A nice article in the Philly Inquirer: Barbaro said to be in good spirits, stable condition (http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/15043489.htm) that notes the fan outpouring of late (lots of people here contributing no doubt) and Edgar's visit yesterday, excerpt:
The day's upbeat report was accompanied by an outpouring of sentiment from Barbaro's fan base. Numerous floral arrangements - one of roses in the shape of a horseshoe - and carrots and apples seemed to arrive at New Bolton on Friday by the minute. A woman brought in a single orchid and wondered about the latest news. Barbaro's trainer, Michael Matz, put a number of arrangements in the back of his car after an early evening visit.
Earlier in the day, Barbaro received a visit from another old friend. Barbaro's jockey, Edgar Prado, stopped by to see the horse early Friday morning before riding at Belmont Park later in the day. He left New York at 4:30 a.m., got down to the Kennett Square facility, then drove back to Long Island with his wife, who had visited the day before.
"He looked much better than I thought he would," Prado told a New York Post reporter at Belmont Park. "He is very smart, and he knew me right away. I fed him, walked with him, and he put his head on my shoulder and fell asleep."
Ed, thanks for getting the Prado interview!
Fred
Jul. 15, 2006, 07:04 AM
the poem was lovely, thank you.
and thank you again VB for the updates. I will be lighting a candle for Bobby tonight, 7pm, and sending him the most positive healing thoughts and prayers.
Hang on Bobby.
xo
Gail
Boston Chicken
Jul. 15, 2006, 07:12 AM
I'm encouraged by these new reports. I am not a good pray-er, but I'm trying ;)
Susan P
Jul. 15, 2006, 08:37 AM
If you put your heart into your prayer God will hear you. The Bible says "The fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much." Barbaro needs that kind of prayer and with God all things are possible, I believe that. :yes: <><
I'm encouraged by these new reports. I am not a good pray-er, but I'm trying ;)
clint
Jul. 15, 2006, 08:39 AM
VB, thanks again for the updates; I don't know what I would do without them. I've spread the word in my small circle about the vigil tonight.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 15, 2006, 08:43 AM
Clint, thanks so much.
Team Barbaro, please e-mail, call, send smoke signals, whatever it takes to get everyone on board for tonight's vigil.
Lord Helpus
Jul. 15, 2006, 10:02 AM
A young friend who is worried about Barbaro was in a twit that her mother might not have candles. I told her that a flashlight would do, or even turning on the car lights ( but with the engine running, so as not to run the battery down :) ), or just turning on every light in the house for 5 minutes while she prayed really hard for Barbaro, right at 7pm, would be the same thing. God would hear her prayers just as well as HE would hear the prayers of everyone who had a candle.
The important part is that she prayed from deep in her heart that Barbaro continued to fight to live, and the wonderful doctors had the skill to help him and that God didn't need him just yet, but would let us keep him for a while longer.
But, if God needed him now, then God knew best and HE would make the right decision for Barbaro and we must not cry because Barbaro would be happy where ever he went.
Ohhh, that was a hard discussion to have. But it made both of us feel better.
msj
Jul. 15, 2006, 10:04 AM
Saturday AM, both ABC and CBS had a short blurb on their morning shows showing Barbaro walking and that he's doing reasonably well, considering the gloomy prognosis by Dean Richardson on Thursday.
We all know he's nowhere near out of the woods and probably won't be for many months to come, but to see him walking and putting weight on both hind legs/feet certainly is grounds for encouragement. :yes:
VB - I don't think any of us can possibly thank you enough for all the great updates. And those thanks also go to all the others that posted other clips and stories. :)
I'm doing both headlights on for Barbaro today and everyday(hey, that's what Chevy trucks do!) and I've already gotten out about 6 candles to light for him in the house. I sure hope the AC doesn't put them out, but with 90+ degree temps, the AC will be working nonstop for a while. :sadsmile:
Hang in there Barbaro, your fan base is pulling for you! :D :yes: :)
Susan P
Jul. 15, 2006, 10:26 AM
So who from here will be at New Bolton Center tonight at 7 PM? I'm only 20 minutes away and I'll look for candles around the house and matches. We could all light them up at 7 PM exactly outside of NB, it would be special especially if we all sent a prayer up to Heaven at the same time requesting that God give us more quality time with Barbaro.
Barbaro has touched something in us, part of it is the building excitement that started with Funny Cide, then with Smarty Jones, they are local boys in this area and then the hope...the dream...Barbaro. We couldn't get enough of him, everyone at the edge of their seat in anticipation. Then the tragedy and hopes dashed yet still more tragic is to lose him completely. Barbaro should be the call to help all the racehorses, he is the light for them and reminds us that his mates still need our help no matter how his fate turns out. I would like to join all of you in prayer for Barbaro that he will pull through and give us more hope, but that he's not forgotten next year.
I'm planning to go to New Bolton with candles and matches tonight, someone please bring a watch.
Freebird!
Jul. 15, 2006, 11:55 AM
If you guys haven't already, Head on over to Tim Woolley's Racing Site (http://www.timwoolleyracing.com/news/2006/07/barbaro_updates_7.php) Where you can read all the great comments people are leaving about his great Barbaro Updates.
I thought it would be great if all us COTHers could post there (just scroll to the very bottom to post a comment) how thankful we are for his updates and website. :)
Carol Ames
Jul. 15, 2006, 11:57 AM
Whst is ghis vigil tonight?
mairzeadoats
Jul. 15, 2006, 01:15 PM
As of Saturday morning, he rested well again last night and was up and down 2 or 3 times, so is able to move around comfortably. Along with normal heart rate, etc, his digital pulse is normal as well.
amble
Jul. 15, 2006, 02:12 PM
VB and everyone else - thanks for all the updates. You all are amazing.
My daughter and I will be lighting candles at 7pm here in upstate NY and jingling anything and everything. Bobby is an amazing horse and we are praying that he will overcome this hurdle and will continue on the road to recovery.
www.amblesidefarm.com
welsh & crossbred ponies
dray
Jul. 15, 2006, 02:44 PM
Mr. CF and I will join the vigil and light a candle here in Texas for Bobby.
Donna
Carson Farm
VirginiaBred
Jul. 15, 2006, 03:18 PM
Update 241: We have received a couple of calls about tonights vigil (http://www.timwoolleyracing.com/news/2006/07/barbaro_updates_6.php#update236) (CBS radio, New Bolton Center). The main questions were where and when ?
Where: whereever you are. If you can congregate with others in your area, great. If not, great! I am sure there will be a few congregating outside the main entrance of New Bolton (I may do the same).
When: 7 pm east coast time.
Update 240: New Bolton Center press release: Barbaro continues to be stable (http://www.vet.upenn.edu/newsandevents/news/Barbaro_Update7-15.htm) confirms what we learned from Michael this morning:
Chief of Surgery Dean Richardson reports today that Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro had a very good night and remains in stable condition at the George D. Widener Hospital. "His heart rate and pulse are normal, and his appetite is good," said Dr. Richardson. "He continues to respond well, looks good and has a positive attitude."
Barbaro is being treated at the hospital for fractures received at the Preakness on May 20 as well as laminitis in his left hind foot. "We continue to monitor him very closely, and we are keeping him as comfortable as possible," said Dr. Richardson.
Jeannine Edwards (ESPN) left the following comment:
ESPN's coverage will continue throughout the weekend. I will actually be at Delaware Park today (Sat) and tomorrow for our Delaware Handicap telecast on Sun, but another reporter is coming for the Barbaro watch. If the situation warrants, I'll be back at New Bolton on Mon. Let's hope for a positive update again today. Good luck with the vigil this evening... I'll be there in spirit.
Note, Jeannine left the comment before the positive update this morning! She further explained to me that ESPN will likely have coverage throughout the day, and Sports Center this evening. There will also be a piece on the Delaware Handicap broadcast tomorrow from Delaware Park (5pm ESPN2). Many have commented on the quality of ESPNs coverage (of course I agree). I think the fact that Jeannine was a racehorse trainer and exercise rider for many years helps with her objective coverage.
We had a visitor today, at Fair Hill. Jean, I hope you enjoyed your trip to Fair Hill, and NBC. I enjoyed the Maccaroons, and will wait a little while to enjoy the Sam Adams!
harryjohnson Aefvue Senior Gardens
Jul. 15, 2006, 03:22 PM
The wife and I have bought candles for everyone who will be with us at the races tonight.
Susan P
Jul. 15, 2006, 03:27 PM
It's pouring rain and thunder here in West Grove, PA and no doubt at New Bolton Center. It doesn't appear to be letting up anytime soon. How will this work at NB? Bring flashlights.
captain
Jul. 15, 2006, 03:58 PM
there are 15 of us (so far, in my group) with candles and jingling things ready to go here in massachusetts. waiting on 7pm! and a few of us have our Barbaro hats on, too : )
c'mon Bobby!!
VirginiaBred
Jul. 15, 2006, 04:07 PM
Team Barbaro!!!
It really sounds as if there is going to be an impressive gathering at New Bolton this evening. Susan is correct, bring a flashlight in the event it decides to storm.
Please light a candle for VirginiaBred someone. I will have them blazing here in Virginia.
Everyone tell someone else. Let's get a larger power involved.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 15, 2006, 04:15 PM
This just in from Tim:
Update 242: Just spoke to Peter Brette. While he is unable to visit today (still in the barn) he noted that D.D (Michael's wife) visited earlier today and said Bobby remains comfortable (she visited about noon). No doubt Michael will visit later today, I think he had runners at Delaware Park. Kathy Anderson is also visiting today (likely as I type) so I will try to catch up with her in a little while.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 15, 2006, 04:20 PM
Update 243: The following is a comment posted by Jen as a result of our afternoon activities (it was actually pretty cool watching a horse use an aqua treadmill)!
alex and I went to a very interesting open house this afternoon for Fair Hill Equine Therapy at Bruce Jackson's new barn (rebuilt since devestating fire late last year). We had the opportunity to chat with Chuck, one of the Fair Hill vets who works with Kathy Anderson. He was great about letting us pick his brain to better understand some of the issues related to Barbaro's condition. I wanted to share some of what I personally learned...most of all, in regards to the sling. I naively thought that whilst in the sling the horse was literally suspended and totally non-weight bearing. Not the case. In fact, he's still actually full-weight bearing in the sling. What it does is provides support so that should he want to lean on it (in whatever direction), he can rest himself off of whichever leg he wants. So, it still gives him a fair bit of control over his situation. Even so, it was a learning process for him to become comfortable with the concept (understandable!). But it seems as though he's come to appreciate it's benefits. Also, regarding the sling, as you can see from the photos it's positioned right in front of the stall door and that is because it's a part of the lift system that transports the horse from post-operative recovery back to the stall. Makes sense. Another bit I found interesting was that Barbaro has apparently been on Aspirin and Plavix (anti-platelet aggregation...ie. makes blood less likely to clot) since his injury as part of the effort to prevent laminitis (general risks of immobility)and he will continue on these medications to try to fascilitate blood flow to where it is so very needed for healing. Last bit,also related to laminitis prevention, initially, they fed Bobby on the ground to encourage weight bearing on the front legs. Now, they're feeding him more upright to try to provide protection for the front legs as they don't want him to favor them too much at this point. OK, that's it. I know I for one have absolute faith that our boy is in the very most capable hands and I thought it was cool to hear more about the details.
Susan P
Jul. 15, 2006, 04:27 PM
If it stops raining at 7PM we'll know we are plugged in. :yes: I've seen God hold back the sky, it looked like the parting of the Red Sea during hurricane Ivan, just swirling overhead and overdue for the down pour and high winds that were to hit the Dixon Oval at Devon. It was amazing and very prayed for.
Hey, the sun is peaking through the clouds...;)
Team Barbaro!!!
It really sounds as if there is going to be an impressive gathering at New Bolton this evening. Susan is correct, bring a flashlight in the event it decides to storm.
Please light a candle for VirginiaBred someone. I will have them blazing here in Virginia.
Everyone tell someone else. Let's get a larger power involved.
Esprit
Jul. 15, 2006, 04:28 PM
way up here in Ontario - but I"ll have candles burning for the vigil tonight. I feel an incredible connection, hard to explain, with Barbaro and find myself talking about him more than my own horses...what an impact he has made on so many who have never met him.
I hope to one day visit him and stroke his soft muzzle. What a good boy he is. Jingles Barbaro!
VirginiaBred
Jul. 15, 2006, 05:27 PM
Update 245: Kathy Anderson just visited (I called her as she was leaving at 5 pm). While Barbaro appeared a little irritated (I guess as one would from time-to-time when stall bound as Bobby is) he managed to devour a bag of fresh grass Kathy fed him. Kathy also noted that they changed the cast on his left hind and apparently all looked as it should. All his vital signs were good. He remains comfortable.
Michael Matz won the Virginia Oaks with Aunt Henny!
Update 244: Trying to catch up on much of the recent media coverage. Mike Schuh e-mailed us this video clip he reported on for WJZ 13 Eyewitness News yesterday (July 14). Barbaro Shows Improvement Day After Outlook Was Grave (http://wjz.com/video/?id=19555@wjz.dayport.com). (Its cool to have media contact you!) Its a nice piece I think (I am sure it was also commented on below). It includes footage of Bobby's use of his sling, it highlights the gifts that have been sent to NBC and also includes a short interview with Michael Matz. Well worth viewing!
VirginiaBred
Jul. 15, 2006, 06:22 PM
7pm est Barbaro Vigil
Everyone ready???
Irish Ei's
Jul. 15, 2006, 06:24 PM
St. Francis of Asissi is the Patron Saint, Guardian and Protector of all animals.....
VB...I pray with you every day.....
Equine Connection
Jul. 15, 2006, 06:31 PM
We're lighting candles throughout the house here in Maryland now! Even have them in the barn with our dressage boys (they are fully attended, of course) who send their thoughts and prayers. We continue to pray and jingle for Barbaro and his team -- truly an inspiration to all. Hope to read more encouraging news in the coming days and weeks, and thanks so much again for keeping us plugged in. Godspeed.
petesperson
Jul. 15, 2006, 06:34 PM
Candles lit in NJ! Go Barbaro!
grayarabs
Jul. 15, 2006, 06:35 PM
Waiting for 7pm in Houston (6 pm here). Candles lit. Jingling and prayers.
just_me
Jul. 15, 2006, 06:37 PM
Got the candles lit in S. Florida and getting ready to jingle.
carol_okc
Jul. 15, 2006, 06:45 PM
Candles lit in Oklahoma....
Wanderluster
Jul. 15, 2006, 06:45 PM
Just lit a candle and sent a heartfelt prayer for a complete recovery. GO Barbaro there are so many who care about you.
Linny
Jul. 15, 2006, 06:47 PM
Candles lit here in the Albany NY area. I'm jingling keys, I have no curb chain!
StrawberryFelidos
Jul. 15, 2006, 06:48 PM
Candles lit in WI :yes:
The Pie
Jul. 15, 2006, 06:49 PM
candles lit here in Ontario, Canada - we're pulling for you Barbaro.
Utah
Jul. 15, 2006, 06:59 PM
More here in N WI...
Irish Ei's
Jul. 15, 2006, 07:00 PM
Join the other Time zones....
For us Eastcoasters, that means..AGAIN...at 8 (Central), 9 (Mountain) and 10 (Pacific)
Becka
Jul. 15, 2006, 07:01 PM
Our deepest thoughts and prayers are with him....God bless and God speed....hang in there sweet boy!!
VirginiaBred
Jul. 15, 2006, 07:02 PM
Excellent Idea!!! All the Time Zones!
Apparently at New Bolton, there were guards turning away all the folks wanting to have the vigil there. They gave directions to Fair Hill and told everyone to go there................
Have CANDLES BLAZING IN VIRGINIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Irish Ei's
Jul. 15, 2006, 07:06 PM
Head Back to the Farm VB...just for a wee moment, please.....
Laurel&HollyFarm
Jul. 15, 2006, 07:12 PM
Here is a picture of the candles we lit for Bobby today taken at exactly 7:00 pm. The medical armband on the right has a four leaf clover in it which surely can't hurt. Barbaro we love you!
grayarabs
Jul. 15, 2006, 07:17 PM
Do I have my time zones confused again??? After all the years calling east and west coasts and all over the world - one would think I would get this.
Confused yet again - please clarify. Oh - Is the clinic eastern or central time????
grayarabs
Jul. 15, 2006, 07:21 PM
Oh wait - now I get it - jingle all times zones AGAIN!!! Excellent idea!!!!
That way it will be dark in Houston. Sorry - I came a bit undone jingling/praying at 6pm CST - I could not stop crying...........
Fred
Jul. 15, 2006, 07:31 PM
more candles lit here in Ontario.
Sending our strongest prayers and healing thoughts to you Bobby.
we also sent off small donations to CANTER and the EXCELLER Fund in his honour.
War Admiral
Jul. 15, 2006, 07:49 PM
I just got back from the barn.
I lit a candle and prayed asking St. Francis and our Blessed Mother to intercede with God to watch over Barbaro, and prayed for them to hold him in their special care.
The horses are all helping too. I then walked along the stable aisle dispensing horse cookies and head rubs, ear scritches or chin scritches (depending on preference) and asked each horse to give a little of his or her very best to help us help Barbaro.
The Cleveland Bay gelding in the first stall, I asked to give Barbaro some of his physical strength, his calm acceptance, and his content in solitude.
I asked Avery, my big bay Turn-To bred TB gelding who has been through SO much, to lend Barbaro some of his indomitable will and determination, and to teach Barbaro that all things do indeed pass.
I asked the big gray warmblood gelding to give Barbaro some of his simple joy and gladness of heart.
I asked the little gray Arabian mare to call upon her and Barbaro's common ancestors to give him courage and physical endurance.
The big dark bay draft cross mare, I asked to lend Barbaro some of her strength, especially from her strong back, good feet and good legs.
I asked the dark bay appendix Quarter Horse gelding to bring Barbaro his strength, his athleticism, and his sweet and trusting nature.
Lastly, I asked the 30-year-old bay Arabian gelding, who has seen all the good and bad the world can give, to guide the hands and hearts of Barbaro's team, in the name of all horses everywhere.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 15, 2006, 07:54 PM
WA, that was truely beautiful, my friend.
carol_okc
Jul. 15, 2006, 07:59 PM
thanks, WA... from the arabians, and those who love them, everywhere. May the spirit and will in these little bodies lend strength and courage and will and healing to their big friend.
Fred
Jul. 15, 2006, 07:59 PM
that was lovely War Admiral, thank you.
here (I think) is the link to the cyber candle thread. We are up over 1000 candles for Barbaro.. can we make it more?
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/...l=eng&gi=barba
hope that works. It is a couple of pages back, if not.
Auventera Two
Jul. 15, 2006, 08:02 PM
I had a quiet moment with my Arabian, breathing in her nose and asking her to lend a bit of that Arabian fire and spirit to Barbaro. He needs it. She blew back and I hope Barbaro can feel it.
target
Jul. 15, 2006, 08:08 PM
Candles lit in El Paso, Texas. Praying everyday for you Barbaro. Keep on fighting.
ShowMeTheGlory
Jul. 15, 2006, 08:14 PM
Candles lit here in Pa.
adventurebeachponies
Jul. 15, 2006, 08:20 PM
Candles lit in Florida... prayers and jingles Barbaro's way!
tullio
Jul. 15, 2006, 08:21 PM
that was beautiful, War Admiral!!
Candles still lit in MD.... imagine candlelight stretching across the country as night falls! Keep the good energy coming!
With love and hope, and faith in all the 'impossible' things they've helped accomplish... keep fighting, Barbaro!
Laurel&HollyFarm
Jul. 15, 2006, 08:27 PM
Thanks so much. Go Bobby!
wotan
Jul. 15, 2006, 09:05 PM
Candle lit and prayers flying heavenward from Tennessee. Today I spent some time spoiling my newest equine friend, a Turn-to/Hail to Reason gelding who recently recovered from EPM. He teaches me the meaning of Thoroughbred heart and determination every time I'm with him. May God smile on Barbaro and all who love him!
War Admiral
Jul. 15, 2006, 09:13 PM
Aww thanks y'all.
Laurel & Holly - your photo and candles are just beautiful!!
Wotan, good to hear of another Turn-To gelding beating the odds! Those boys do not know the meaning of the words "I can't". Barbaro has some Turn-To as well, so hopefully he's got the same fighting spirit!! :yes:
Sugarbrook
Jul. 15, 2006, 09:16 PM
I was at the barn feeding. We stopped at 7pm. My daughter, her husband, and our two grandchildren held hands and prayed out loud for Bobby. I used a flashlight instead of a candle to pretend. We tried. I have two sick ones here in my barn. We should have prayed for them also.......i forgot. Am headed back to the barn now. Sandy
www.sugarbrook.com
hunter/jumper ponies
Irish Ei's
Jul. 15, 2006, 09:16 PM
Sat in the grass a horse SHOULD be eating with Bob's dirty reins as my Rosary......
Lookout
Jul. 15, 2006, 09:19 PM
I just got back from the barn.
The horses are all helping too.
Lastly, I asked the 30-year-old bay Arabian gelding, who has seen all the good and bad the world can give, to guide the hands and hearts of Barbaro's team, in the name of all horses everywhere.
:sadsmile:
I lit my bamboo and jasmine candle and sent my healing energy. I did not need to do much, there was already so much there, it was very easy. I felt little sparks in Barbaro's RH leg. I invited my OTTB to join in (who is the self-appointed keeper/guardian of all race track TB's and all harm that comes to them), and he said "oh yeah, that kid :winkgrin: and sent his healing energy too.
I am looking forward to hearing a good update tomorrow.
Lori T
Jul. 15, 2006, 09:37 PM
I just got home from xc schooling and read the updates... I am so glad that today was a good day! I lit a candle for Bobby.
Lori
www.calypsofarm.piczo.com
VirginiaBred
Jul. 15, 2006, 09:39 PM
We are closing in on the last of the 7pm times (Eastern, Central, Mountain, Pacific) and only after that will I blow my candles out.
You can do it, Barbaro! We believe in you!!!
BBowen
Jul. 15, 2006, 09:42 PM
Prayers, jingles, candles, healing thoughts and mantras for Barbaro. He has been a miracle horse so far. He has the heart to continue.
gubbyz
Jul. 15, 2006, 09:47 PM
7pm here in California, lit my candle and said a prayer for Bobby.
Slewdledo
Jul. 15, 2006, 09:55 PM
Just had some very peaceful moments near Seattle. The sunlight caught a spiderweb, the birds are still singing, and even the sounds of cars died away for a time. I have hope. I feel that nature knows exactly what's going on, and will decide Barbaro's fate in a way that humans and science will not.
Susan P
Jul. 15, 2006, 10:07 PM
I drove out to New Bolton, no one was there. The guard said there was a vigil at Fair Hill, went there, no one. I don't get it. :confused:
They will do what's best for Barbaro. I don't think things are going well. Michael Matz buys his food from the same places I do.
Kenike
Jul. 15, 2006, 10:08 PM
This has been so wonderful to read! I forgot the candle earlier, but have had one lit in the past few days AND my husband would've blown it out today, anyway (would've been lit before he went to work...he hates candles). Not only that, but my prayers have continued. God is taking care of this magnificent horse and His Will will be done.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 15, 2006, 10:10 PM
I, too heard about the guards, and what they were telling people. There wasn't a vigil at Fair Hill, and was never supposed to be. The guards didn't want a large number of people at New Bolton. I had a good friend turned away also. I think the Fair Hill story was just that, a story to keep people moving.
There were quite a few that went to New Bolton, and were made to leave.
Boston Chicken
Jul. 15, 2006, 10:12 PM
I hope tonight's good wishes and prayers help :sadsmile:
monicabee
Jul. 15, 2006, 10:14 PM
If your own horse has ever been in jeopardy somehow, you know how much even tiny signs of progress mean. On the not-so-good days, there is the fantasy image of them, healed and happy, to sustain you.
I picture Barbaro standing in a paddock in the shade of a weeping willow, the July heat eased by the cool breeze blowing off the brook outside his fence. He watches with mild curiousity as a family of ducks waddle in, the mother ducking her head to pass under the fence. Then his head turns the other way, ears pricked. The mares and foals are going to turnout from their faraway barn. For a moment he forgets the stiff hind ankle, stands square with neck arched proudly, and whinnies to them. Some of them are his first crop.
Susan P
Jul. 15, 2006, 10:14 PM
I'm feeling bummed about Barbaro. Don't mean to be a pesimist but I've just been hearing things that are troubling about him and I'm right between Fair Hill and New Bolton, traveling in the same places. Not meaning to name places but anyone in this area knows. All the people that work at FHTC and NB, there's just no good news.
mbj
Jul. 15, 2006, 11:46 PM
Lit candles for Barbaro tonite, and the weather did get nice at 7. I was across the road from NB earlier in late afternoon and it was pouring.
Praying in Unionville.
excowgirlie
Jul. 16, 2006, 12:51 AM
I wish he really knew how much we all were praying and jingling for him...poor guy...I gave my horse extra special scratches, loves and kisses tonight...every morning I awake and go straight to coth to found out how bobby's night went...keep on fighting big boy!
TBpalsx3
Jul. 16, 2006, 01:04 AM
Prayers were said and positive energy was sent straight to Barabaro and to NB. Susan the troubling news may be out there. Perhaps we can all try to wish it away and good news will prevail. It is worth a try at least. Time will tell . I think we are all realistic about the seriousness of the stiuation but continue to hope for the daily small miracles that lead to a big miracle!! We need to keep hope.
JanWeber
Jul. 16, 2006, 05:16 AM
SusanP and others who may have heard bad news: remember that some people sometimes will see the dark side, some will see the light... Our hopes and prayers are that Bobby and those who care so deeply for him will pass through this with grace and to the good. Whether that means a breezy meadow watching his babies or the welcoming committee at the Bridge, no one can say. But prayers and optimism make everyone feel better in a way that gloom and doom don't... When people tell you their "insider updates", smile and say "not what I heard..."
Carol Ames
Jul. 16, 2006, 06:56 AM
http://harmanyequine.com/laminitis.stm
VirginiaBred
Jul. 16, 2006, 07:03 AM
Thanks to Tim & Alex:
Update 246: Jeannine Edwards caught up with Michael Matz yesterday (saturday afternoon) at Delaware Park, she e-mailed me this:
i actually talked to michael today at delaware. he and D.D. gave me a good update. he told me about the cast change today. he told me barbaro's been using the sling very well, and that he actually likes it, he "sits" in it and rests sometimes. he said at one point, while in the stall and out of the sling, he got a little tired or uncomfortable or something and he moved over to the sling and stood there like "hook me up!!" anyway, michael gave me a good on-camera interview for tomorrow's show. we'll use just a short comment from him. he couldn't help but get a little emotional.... it's obvious this has been an excrutiatingly painful ordeal for them. he was as gracious and as wonderful as he's been all along.
The cast change Jeannine refers to is the one we mentioned yesterday on his left hind. ESPN2 will have some coverage later today (5pm) which will include footage of Michael.
The New York Times also caught up with Michael yesterday at Delaware Park: For Barbaro's Trainer, the Race Must Go On (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/16/sports/16matz.html?_r=1&oref=slogin) (thanks Mary). The following are a couple of excerpts:
"Not so much physically, but, mentally, everything is catching up with me right now," he said between races here Saturday. "I thought for sure this horse could win the Triple Crown. Then, when this happened, I thought it wasn't supposed to be, but he was still going to be a good stallion. Then this latest setback comes along, and I've had to resign myself that maybe we'll have to put him to sleep. Then, he bounces right back again. Sometimes, I don't know what to expect."
and
After the races, he was planning to head to Kennett Square to make his daily visit to Barbaro. He did not know what to expect.
"Sometimes he wants somebody to be there with him and sometimes he wants to be left alone," Matz said. "It all depends on what people are doing with him."
Matz does not try to pretend he is taking it all in stride. He understands that, despite Saturday's positive report, the odds remain very much against Barbaro. The type of severe laminitis that Barbaro has is difficult to cure and can lead to severe pain. About the only factor working in Barbaro’s favor is his spirit.
"It's like anything else with this horse," Matz said. "You can never count him out. He's just an unbelievable horse who doesn't want to give up. I'll put it this way: I'm not giving up on him. If any horse can get through this, it is him."
I saw Michael leaving New Bolton just after 7 pm last night, as I was there for the Vigil. Unfortunately it seems NBC was not aware the intent of the Vigil was to those who want to come to NBC to have people gather outside the gate, by the get well posters etc. I hope everyone who wanted to participate found a quiet time to think of Bobby.
Fred
Jul. 16, 2006, 07:19 AM
well said janweber and TBpals. We all understand the seriousness of Barbaro's situation. All we can do is be positive, think healing thoughts, pray, and hope.
There are always people who choose to be negative and those who chose to be positive. HE has not given up, and neither shall we.
I have a friend who has a cancer research and treatment centre. They utilize all the latest,most high tech treatments. But he believes also in the power of positive thought, in the power of united positive thought and healing energy.
I also lit a candle on 'Fred's' behalf, that he can share his Thoroughbred strength with Barbaro.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 16, 2006, 08:08 AM
Update 247: Bobby had another comfortable night last night (saturday night). Sunday is always a little more difficult for getting updates (I try not to ride on sundays and Michael is often not on the horsepath). That being said I saw Michael's shortened string coming back from the track (three horses, as opposed to a normal ten and Michael on Messaging) and asked if they had an update. Michelle (Matz) noted that Michael said all was well during his visit last night. Angela (her father won the Grand National on Rubstic) said she was coming out on one more horse (their last set), so I asked her if she would ask Michael if he had heard from Dean Richardson yet this morning. I remained by the horsepath (acquired a horse to graze: Randy's Bullet) and waited for Angela. When Angela reappeared on her final horse, she reported Michael said his night was comfortable!
Peter (Brette) is planning to go over to see Bobby this morning, so will try to catch up with Peter later.
just_me
Jul. 16, 2006, 08:47 AM
Thanks VB. I look forward to your updates.
Equine Connection
Jul. 16, 2006, 08:55 AM
Yes, thanks again VB for all of these detailed updates -- your efforts are much appreciated.
I'm EBO
Jul. 16, 2006, 08:56 AM
To those of you (myself included) who are hearing negative comments about Barbaro's recovery: Can you think of any reason there would be a "cover-up" about Barbaro's situtation from Dr. Richardson? Michael Matz? The Jacksons"? These people may not be reporting each and every moment, but they have been nothing but forthright about BB's condition, AND their hopes and intentions for his treatment.
Just try to remember that when you hear the negatives. If the honest people who see him every day are still fighting for him, how can we possibly listen to, and give credence to, the relatively uninformed naysayers?
dcm
Jul. 16, 2006, 09:03 AM
Thanks VB for the update this morning.
As long as Barbaro fights to live, I will remain positive. His heart and will to live astound me. What a wonderful horse, and a lovely, lovely example of American Thoroughbreds. :)
GO BOBBY, GO!
captain
Jul. 16, 2006, 09:54 AM
as knowledgeable and aware horsemen as we are, we all know the possibilities, the likelihoods and the imminents but that shouldn't stop the hope, and the trust that the very best are doing their very best, 'specially Barbaro. it is now, when the future may seem so fragile, that we continue to pull together and send forth the positive and comforting power of hope, desire, and visions of the future . collective thoughts and well wishes are powerful indeed. i have been the recipient of such and know firsthand how incredibly effective it can be.
behind you all the way, NBC, Mr. Matz, and Mr. and Mrs. Jackson.
prayers and jingles continue in massachusetts.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 16, 2006, 09:57 AM
Team Barbaro:
Another way to send positive reinforcement is for all of us to UNITE by adding a "Barbaro signature" at the end of every post.
Wear it on your sleeve, wear it in your heart. GO BARBARO!
ASB Stars
Jul. 16, 2006, 09:57 AM
I was working around the farm this AM, thinking of Barbaro, and a poem from J.R.R. Tolkien came to mind, from Return of the King...I am paraphrasing, I am sure, but I thought some of it was awfully apropos...
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost.
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not touched by the frost
From the ashes a fire shall be woken-
a flame from the embers shall spring!
Renewed shall be the blade that was broken-
the crownless again shall be KING!
Barbaro may not have won the crown, but he is the essence of class, and the spirit and power from which he descends are surely showing themselves now....
Susan P
Jul. 16, 2006, 10:03 AM
I was at the main entrance of NB at 7 PM and didn't see anyone out there except a reporter from USA Today and the guard said no one was expected. The guard said Fair Hill was where the vigil would be and I drove there and saw no one but it was after 7:30 PM by then, but someone should have been around, it was quiet. At least my barn is less than 10 minutes from FH so I didn't run around too much but still, someone tell me where there was a vigil here.
Lit candles for Barbaro tonite, and the weather did get nice at 7. I was across the road from NB earlier in late afternoon and it was pouring.
Praying in Unionville.
CSSporthorses
Jul. 16, 2006, 10:05 AM
VABred, if you can tell me how to add the Team Barbaro to my sig line, I'd be more than happy to add it on. I may not post much, but I read this thread many many times a day.
adventurebeachponies
Jul. 16, 2006, 10:05 AM
While the odds are greatly against Barbaro I know his human connections have been greatly touched by the huge outpouring of support from around the world.
Barbaro is well aware that he very loved by those around him and has enjoyed the carrots and apples that have arrived daily for him along with the positive energy and prayers of his fans.
If Barbaro lives it will bring great joy to many, many people and if he does not then all will be comforted by the knowledge that he was given every possible chance and his last moments were not of pain and fear but of love and carrots from his friends.
NB and Veterinary science have benefitted greatly from this experience and the spotlight on Barbaro's injury has spurred tracks to make the switch to Polytrack in the future.
I am praying for a miracle but what we have witnessed to date is already pretty miraculous as the world got the opportunity to look into the window of a horse's soul and many people now understand why we love our equine friends so very much.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 16, 2006, 10:08 AM
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VirginiaBred
Jul. 16, 2006, 10:11 AM
Updated: July 16, 2006, 1:31 AM ET
Barbaro stable after another 'very good night' ~ espn.com
KENNETT SQUARE, Pa. -- Barbaro is holding his own, for now.
Following a week in which it appeared the ailing Kentucky Derby winner might not live much longer, Barbaro remained in stable condition Saturday while being treated for a painful and often-fatal foot disease.
"His heart rate and pulse are normal, and his appetite is good," Dr. Dean Richardson said Saturday in a statement issued by the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center. "He continues to respond well, looks good and has a positive attitude."
Encouraging news, for sure. But at this tense point, there is really no way to predict what lies ahead for Barbaro. More good days and improved prospects for recovery? Or future complications that could make it too painful for the colt to be kept alive?
Saturday, doctors changed the cast on Barbaro's "good" left hind foot and applied a topical drug to the site of the dreaded laminitis. On Wednesday, veterinarians performed a procedure to remove 80 percent of the hoof wall to combat the disease, usually caused by uneven weight distribution in the limbs. The disease could appear in another limb at any time, and if it does, it would likely result in the horse being humanely destroyed.
"If he were to develop it in another foot, we will not continue," Richardson said during a news conference Thursday.
The right hind leg was shattered a few yards out of the starting gate at the Preakness Stakes on May 20, and no less than three surgical procedures and five cast changes have taken place since. The titanium plate and 27 screws inserted in the leg on May 21 were replaced with new hardware last Saturday. An infection was cleaned out, and the pastern [ankle] joint vets are trying to fuse was a concern.
"We continue to monitor him very closely, and we are keeping him as comfortable as possible," Richardson said.
Barbaro, who has fiberglass casts on both hind legs, has been fitted with a sling as he stands in his stall in the intensive care unit at the George D. Widener Hospital. It prevents sudden movements and allows the colt to shift his weight off the injured limbs.
While being treated aggressively with pain medication, including epidurals, the biggest concern involves Barbaro's comfort. From the time the decision was made to try to save Barbaro after his breakdown, owners Gretchen and Roy Jackson have been adamant that they don't want him to suffer.
"Their only concern is the horse's comfort," Richardson said. "We are only going to go on in this horse as long as everyone involved is convinced that they can come in every day, look at this horse and be convinced that on that day and the next day that he is going to be acceptably comfortable."
A second straight upbeat report prompted another outpouring of sentiment from Barbaro fans. Dozens of fruit baskets and flower arrangements -- one with roses, carnations and daisies in the shape of a horseshoe -- began arriving Friday afternoon and continued Saturday.
However, Barbaro still has many months of recovery ahead.
After calling Barbaro's laminitis "as bad as it gets," Richardson said Thursday that Barbaro's chances of survival were poor. A severe case of laminitis usually causes rapid deterioration in a horse's condition, with the end result making it too painful for the animal to be kept alive.
Since Barbaro's vital signs are good and his condition has stabilized for two days, there is a glimmer of hope.
"When a horse is like this they have tendency to start going downhill very quickly," Dr. Rick Arthur, a prominent veterinarian on the California thoroughbred circuit, said. "If they level off at all, I think we always get very encouraged."
Trainer D. Wayne Lukas calls Barbaro's situation "very shaky." The Hall of Famer won the 1999 Derby and Preakness with Charismatic, who broke his left front leg near the finish of the Belmont Stakes in his Triple Crown bid. The career-ending injury was not as serious as Barbaro's, and Charismatic recovered without developing laminitis.
"Laminitis was always the issue," Lukas said from Churchill Downs in Louisville, Ky. "Those of us that have been there, done that, seen it, always knew. Dr. Richardson knew that's what he was ultimately going to be fighting. When that set in that was a major, major setback. Laminitis has always been the one that does most of those horses in."
VirginiaBred
Jul. 16, 2006, 10:42 AM
Thanks again to Tim:
Update 248: Peter Brette just called, and he left Bobby at about 10:15 this morning (sunday morning). He confirmed Barbaro had a good night last night (got up and down 2 - 3 times). He said he looked good this morning, in a good frame of mind. He was met by a reporter from the Philadelphia Inquirer, so we'll need to look out for that piece. The following article: Barbaro is strong and stable (http://www.newsday.com/sports/ny-spbarb0716,0,1502376.story?track=rss) (thanks Susan), has some nice quotes from Peter, Craig (or is it Grey, or ... ?) and Kathy Anderson, a couple here:
"Any problem we threw at him, he handled with ease," said Kennedy, who worked with the colt here in the northeast corner of Maryland at Vintage Farm, Barbaro's home and part of Fair Hill Training Center, where he was trained to race. "We put him on the track, put him in the gate -- anything that was difficult from the day before, he took in stride. He was an absolute professional."
and
Not only that, but after spending several hours out of the sling two days ago, he walked back over to it and nudged it, as if to say, "I want back in," said Brett, the assistant trainer who worked with him for more than a year. "He's battling back as he normally does by overcoming obstacles. He's just a smart horse with a super constitution."
and
Richardson, Dr. Kathy Anderson, the Vintage Farm veterinarian, and Barbaro's trainer, Michael Matz, are watching for small nuances in his behavior. "When he's feeling good, he's sharp, pushing you around and a little aggressive," Anderson said. "When he's not feeling good, he's quieter."
Anderson has been encouraged by Barbaro's efforts to sit down more often and not overload any of his limbs. The team will know more after removing the cast on his right hind leg to check his infection next week, she said, but right now, everyone is optimistic and committed to pushing ahead.
"He's not showing any sign of giving up now," she added. "As long as he fights the fight, we're authorized to stay with the program."
The author of this article, Tripp Mickle actually broke the story of Edgar's most recent visit. I believe Tripp was simply still at New Bolton when he saw Edgar. If this "meeting" had not happened, I am pretty sure no one would have known of Edgar's visit. His article, reported in the comments on this site, had me calling others to confirm the story, and it took a lot to get it confirmed! Ultimately ESPN ran the story that night and the New York Post interviewed Edgar later that afternoon about the visit.
Susan P
Jul. 16, 2006, 10:57 AM
I'm hoping Barbaro pulls through with good quality of life. If that is the case he will be such a cool horse because of his suffering and recognizing the hurculean effort to save him. His response to pain, not being agressive but quiet, recognizing the sling as something that helped him he surely must recognize how much people have been there for him and appreciate them. He's become a true pet.
I think that the animals that suffer often come to appreciate much more as in rescued animals. They respond a little differently, more humble, more grateful. A few are more angry after being mistreated or in pain. I glad to see that Barbaro is understanding the love for him and is responding in kind.
Keep the faith.
Boston Chicken
Jul. 16, 2006, 11:10 AM
Good news on his night lasy night. Hoping for many, many more.
Fancy
Jul. 16, 2006, 11:11 AM
:) :) :) :)
Thanks, VB, again and again, and again, and......
:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
JoZ
Jul. 16, 2006, 11:23 AM
So thankful to you, VB, for all of your efforts to keep us informed. You are very special and caring.
GO BOBBY GO!!!!!
VirginiaBred
Jul. 16, 2006, 12:01 PM
Update 250: Just had to add this article: Trainer: Barbaro 'In Good Frame of Mind' (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/07/16/sports/s075335D90.DTL) (thanks Karla). As I noted in update 248, Peter met with a reporter this morning after his visit, and the story seems out already (that's the internet for you). His quote is similar to what Peter told me over the phone five minutes later no doubt:
"He had another good night, " Brette said. "He's doing fine. He's in a good frame of mind."
Brette, who exercised the colt daily for trainer Michael Matz, has been visiting Barbaro almost every day since the colt shattered his right hind leg at the Preakness Stakes on May 20.
Barbaro's condition was stable through Saturday, and Brette seemed more upbeat than he was last week.
"He was bright," Brette said. "He sort of at least had a bit of sparkle in his eye."
Now I am off to Delaware Park!
Update 249: Off to Delaware Park for the big day of racing. If you can, tune in 5 pm ESPN2 from Delaware Park, they will include Bobby coverage. Likely Sports Center at 6 will too (they have done religiously the past few days). Also, if you are still up (we racing people tend to go to bed early) tune in to the ESPYs at 9 PM tonight for Edgar. If you watch any of these shows and can add a "report" to the comments that would be terrific. Before going to Delaware I just wanted to add this article: Grim reality hits racing again (http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/ny-spwally144816988jul14,0,7686309.column?coll=ny-sports-columnists) (thanks CJ) which includes some uplifting words from Edgar Prado:
"This business is tough," he said. "It's hard to go out there and when you come back to the room you see on TV how desperate things are over there. I'm sad, but I'm a professional and I have responsibilities. I'll just keep on going."
After the seventh race, in which he finished second on a claiming horse named Paige Nicole, Prado admitted his mind was more on the horse he believed was going to take him all the way to the Triple Crown.
"As long as he's alive, there's hope, and that's the last thing you want to lose," Prado said. "If you're going to give up every time something like this happens, there would be many people dead and many animals dead."
To Prado, the answers to the questions regarding the Jacksons and their extraordinary efforts to save Barbaro are simple and obvious.
"Many, many, many people dream of standing in the winner's circle on Kentucky Derby Day," he said. "That horse gave those people the biggest thrill of their lives, and I think they were just trying to give something back. I mean, that's the least we can do for these horses. Give them one more chance."
adventurebeachponies
Jul. 16, 2006, 12:26 PM
Update 250: Just had to add this article:
Before going to Delaware I just wanted to add this article: Grim reality hits racing again (http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/ny-spwally144816988jul14,0,7686309.column?coll=ny-sports-columnists)
The writer in the article said this:
[quote]They are not house pets. They are wild animals, every bit as dangerous away from their element as a fighting bull outside the ring or a tiger free of its cage.
While no horse is a "house pet" I find it bizarre that he suggests that thoroughbred race horses are wild and dangerous and compare the danger level to that of a tiger or mad fighting bull.
Maybe we should put three cages in a row with a man eating tiger in one, a crazed fighting bull in another and Barbaro in the third and see which cage he would rather step into. Barbaro or one of my race horses might mug him for a carrot in a "wild moment" :)
Geesh.
Esprit
Jul. 16, 2006, 12:38 PM
Ever hopeful. Still jingling :)
VirginiaBred
Jul. 16, 2006, 12:54 PM
To Prado, the answers to the questions regarding the Jacksons and their extraordinary efforts to save Barbaro are simple and obvious.
"Many, many, many people dream of standing in the winner's circle on Kentucky Derby Day," he said. "That horse gave those people the biggest thrill of their lives, and I think they were just trying to give something back. I mean, that's the least we can do for these horses. Give them one more chance."..........................
How true!
CSSporthorses
Jul. 16, 2006, 12:57 PM
I think I got the sig down, but how do you all get color? Is it a premium member thing? Well, I'll be off the computer till after 9, but Bobby is always in my thoughts. Thanks again for all your wonderful updates VABred :)
VirginiaBred
Jul. 16, 2006, 01:06 PM
Trainer: Barbaro 'In Good Frame of Mind'
By RICHARD ROSENBLATT, AP Racing Writer - AP Breaking News
Sunday, July 16, 2006
(07-16) 07:53 PDT Kennett Square, Pa. (AP)
Barbaro had another good night in the intensive care unit, and the Kentucky Derby winner's assistant trainer said Sunday the colt "is in a good frame of mind."
Although Sunday's official medical update has not been released yet, assistant trainer Peter Brette visited Barbaro at the George D. Widener Hospital for Large Animals.
"He had another good night, " Brette said. "He's doing fine. He's in a good frame of mind."
Brette, who exercised the colt daily for trainer Michael Matz, has been visiting Barbaro almost every day since the colt shattered his right hind leg at the Preakness Stakes on May 20.
Barbaro's condition was stable through Saturday, and Brette seemed more upbeat than he was last week.
"He was bright," Brette said. "He sort of at least had a bit of sparkle in his eye."
The 3-year-old colt has the painful and often fatal condition laminitis in his left hind leg, and 80 percent of his hoof wall was removed Wednesday.
Barbaro has casts on both rear limbs. The cast on the colt's right rear leg has been changed at least four times in the last two weeks. A smaller fiberglass cast to protect his left rear hoof was changed Saturday, and is likely to be changed again in the coming days.
On Saturday, Dr. Dean Richardson reported that Barbaro was in stable condition — four days after he said the colt had laminitis "as bad as it gets" and termed his chance of survival poor.
"His heart rate and pulse are normal, and his appetite is good," Richardson said Saturday in a statement issued by the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center. "He continues to respond well, looks good and has a positive attitude."
carol_okc
Jul. 16, 2006, 02:17 PM
WA, I hope you don't mind, but one of our fellow arab nuts quoted your incredibly beautiful post on our regular site, ablackhorse. Surprise! It moved some folks to tears, and gratitude. Thanks again... from me, and from my precious horses. May ALL of our horses share in Bobby's recovery!
ponymom64
Jul. 16, 2006, 02:36 PM
Praying for you Bobby!
Thanks VB for your love and concern for this horse
Carol Ames
Jul. 16, 2006, 03:12 PM
;) A lot of people at church ;) asked me today if there were anymore updatesThey are all praying for him, and,the text of a prayer has gone to the prayer room to be sent to the :yes: prayer chain
Freebird!
Jul. 16, 2006, 03:23 PM
Here are just a few of the comments posted over on Tim Woolley's Racing which are posted below all of his updates:
Good Morning, Mr. B and Everyone.
Thanks, Alex and Jeannine, for sharing the interview with Michael. He seems to be a stoic, but soft hearted person and he certainly deserves for this special son of his to win this race.
No updates from NBC yet this morning, but I hold faith that our Special One had another stable night. Bobby it's another day. Live it well.
Tim and Alex, I feel like I have to apologize to both of you. Some of yesterday's later posts were, to me, inappropriate and disrespectful to you. As our hosts on this site, we need to remember our manners and follow the rules. That's all I wanted to say. Just one person's opinion for what it's worth.
Hey, Bobby. Heard you were irritated yesterday. Dr. Kathy told us. Irritated is good sometimes cause it let's others know where we're coming from. They just keep picking at you don't they? Probably waking you up all night to take temperature and blood pressure too. We know handsome, but it's for the best and you're smart enough to know that. Glad you like you're sling. Take every little bit of comfort that you can, like taking a short snooze on Edgar's shoulder. Sending contiuned love to you today Beautiful Friend as you continue to heal.
Enjoy the new day everyone.
Jill
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Another morning and I am again grateful that you made it through the night comfortably. It is amazing how so many people are drawn to you Barbaro, and how you have come to symbolize so much of what is noble and part of the American character of perserverance and spirit. I pray for you constantly and hope the miracle of recovery is ahead. Knowing you are loved, keep fighting on!
Posted by: Lorraine at July 16, 2006 01:29 PM
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It's 4:45 am here in California... Just wanted to check for any updates about how you did last night. Took part in the vigil and know many, many others did also. With all those prayers and love you should be doing much, much better today. Will check back for updates soon. God speed.
Posted by: Deborah at July 16, 2006 12:51 PM
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Powerful steed, beautiful boy --
Career cut short right out of the gate;
Your triple crown now hope, courage, and love --
Fight with us now, as we pray and wait.
I have never been so drawn to a horse, as I am a dog person, but the magnificence of this beautiful animal is riveting. Thanks to all the doctors and medical staff for doing all that can be done, as we continue to hope and pray for a good outcome. Keep up your spirit, Bobby, Don't leave us now.
With much love and healing thoughts,
Janet Goodman in Georgia
Posted by: Janet Goodman at July 16, 2006 12:55 PM
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It amazes me just how many people this horse has touched!!:yes:
Gallop on Barbaro!!!
Susan P
Jul. 16, 2006, 03:34 PM
Freebird,
I think these comments reveal that we do value each and every day of life. It should also mean we value each and every life.
Love is a verb.
War Admiral
Jul. 16, 2006, 03:45 PM
WA, I hope you don't mind, but one of our fellow arab nuts quoted your incredibly beautiful post on our regular site, ablackhorse. Surprise! It moved some folks to tears, and gratitude. Thanks again... from me, and from my precious horses. May ALL of our horses share in Bobby's recovery!
Not at all, glad to hear it!! I'm honored.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 16, 2006, 03:52 PM
Remember, ESPN2, at 5pm EST:
If you can, tune in 5 pm ESPN2 from Delaware Park, they will include Bobby coverage.
Likely Sports Center at 6 will too (they have done religiously the past few days).
tradewind
Jul. 16, 2006, 04:30 PM
War Admiral's post was one of the most beautiful things I have read lately..thanks so much for sharing it with all of us.
War Admiral
Jul. 16, 2006, 04:30 PM
While no horse is a "house pet" I find it bizarre that he suggests that thoroughbred race horses are wild and dangerous and compare the danger level to that of a tiger or mad fighting bull.
Maybe we should put three cages in a row with a man eating tiger in one, a crazed fighting bull in another and Barbaro in the third and see which cage he would rather step into. Barbaro or one of my race horses might mug him for a carrot in a "wild moment" :)
Geesh.
Agreed. I e-mailed a letter to the editor about that. ;)
VirginiaBred
Jul. 16, 2006, 06:17 PM
Thanks Tim & Alex!
Update 251: Starting a new entry as the comments of the previous updates seems to be behaving oddly. I went to Delaware Park, but left before the big races to come back and watch on ESPN2. I am still waiting to watch (the races have run)! I did get to Delaware Park early in order to meet Jeannine and go and watch her interview with Michael Matz from yesterday at Delaware Park (a piece of which should be included in the ESPN2 piece). It was a very good (5 minute) interview. It makes me think that while I understand only a segment of the interview will be edited into the TV coverage, the entire interview should be made available on the ESPN site (hint hint). You could see Michael get visibly emotional as Michael noted towards the end of the interview:
"All it takes is one miracle" (when discussing Bobby's prognosis)... and with tears in his eyes "he's a fighter"
We snapped a couple of pictures of a nice poster from a fan (7 yo Taylor), who is dropping the poster (along with her parents) off at New Bolton on their way home.
cartera45
Jul. 16, 2006, 06:20 PM
That article about race animals being wild animals was about the silliest thing I have ever read. That guy has obviously never met a Shetland pony! I'll take my chances with the OTTB any day.
VirginiaBred
Jul. 16, 2006, 06:21 PM
Here's some more of the Associated Press article from today:
While Barbaro's condition is being constantly monitored, it was a relatively quiet weekend around the New Bolton Center. Residents and interns tended to their rounds, checking on the many other animals in their care. One resident said he's treating two goats in the stall next to Barbaro's.
The weekend brought an outpouring of sentiment from Barbaro fans. Baskets filled with apples, carrots, mints and packages of sugar cubes and several flower arrangements were delivered for the third straight day after Richardson said Barbaro had laminitis.
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