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VirginiaBred
Sep. 24, 2007, 03:08 PM
It's safe to post, I believe.
ASB Stars
Sep. 24, 2007, 03:24 PM
Tears again... :cry:
Where did they decide to bury him? I know so many of us will want to pay our respects...
Glimmerglass
Sep. 24, 2007, 04:00 PM
I heard word on where they are going to burry him today - is it common knowledge, or should I keep my mouth shut. Just need to know.
Hmm, lets see. Considering almost every scrap of news has been posted in this thread from the most pertinent to the trivial yet nothing related to his would-be burial site ... what do you think? I'll take an uneducated guess: it isn't common knowledge. Or its disclosure has not been made public to the media yet intentially or otherwise.
Seriously I have to ask: do people like to bait others with tid bits of insiders news?
I could be way off the mark but I seriously doubt the Jacksons want the true burial site to be known or accessable to the public.
Making it a modern day shrine for those emotionally lost like Jim Morrison's (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=740)grave is today in Paris just seems out of character. One would suspect a monument to him may be put in a public place but that is far different to the actual grave site. The late Mrs. duPont has a beautiful grave for Kelso on her vast private estate which is not readily accessable to the public - despite being a beloved horse by the masses.
holmes
Sep. 24, 2007, 04:43 PM
Not baiting - I have not really followed the recent Barbaro news, so I was unaware if it has been announced. The current plan (which might not have been finalized, hence not announcing it) is lovely!
canyonoak
Sep. 24, 2007, 07:46 PM
So it will be like Seabiscuit? A private place for those who certainly deserve to have such a place...and a public place, perhaps associated with donations to a favorite charity.
Either way, over The Bridge, at least they will all look and feel the hearts that reach out to honor one of the brightest.
It doesn't really matter to me. I can pay my respects, feel what I feel, say a little hello, with or with out a physical location.
Xctrygirl
Sep. 25, 2007, 08:23 AM
Hmm let's see...
Alex knows a lot, and knows Mrs. Jackson and he hasn't said a peep. Its a rare thing for Alex to keep something under his cap. So I am guessing he hasn't been cleared to say anything.
I really think we should just wait until the Jacksons either make a release or something is said "officially." Most other folks arranging burial plans have the respect of those around them to give them space to complete all the details. I think it would be unfair to start going "Gimme gimme information, location, directions!! I wanna go there now!"
This should still be a time to respect those with the task of fulfilling his enternment or whatever.
PS: You all know that La Ville Rouge (B's dam) is not in foal for next year right? I haven't read all 5,000 posts but I do know that.
~Emily
ravenclaw
Sep. 25, 2007, 09:31 AM
I really think we should just wait until the Jacksons either make a release or something is said "officially." Most other folks arranging burial plans have the respect of those around them to give them space to complete all the details. I think it would be unfair to start going "Gimme gimme information, location, directions!! I wanna go there now!"
Agreed. There hasn't been any word about where they are going to bury him since he died in January. So we can wait a few more weeks or months or however long the Jacksons need.
OldSaddleBag
Oct. 1, 2007, 06:54 PM
Would anyone know if Dr Richardson has any plans to put his experiences in a book?
OldSaddleBag
Nov. 23, 2007, 12:08 PM
I sadly remember in the Vanity Fair article printed earlier this year that Gretchen Jackson recalled how Michael Matz came up to see Barbaro at Thanksgiving time in 2006, and she felt that he would not be coming to offer care for him again -- a wistful reflection this holiday.
msj
Nov. 23, 2007, 12:39 PM
I'm in the process of re-reading the Vanity Fair article right now-just starting. I'd read it when the link to it was posted here and a friend just dropped it off to me about a wk ago. I'm quite sure I'll have many a tear to dry as I do read it again. :sadsmile:
CSSporthorses
Nov. 23, 2007, 09:17 PM
Wow, I'm glad to see this thread is still active. Such a champion. We've all been right here together waiting for any piece of information since his injury, I'm sure the information will be available when the Jacksons' are ready to produce it. I hope that Bobby's true resting place is kept a secret, a place where those closest to him can continue to enjoy their time with him. I'm sure that whatever is done for the public and where-ever it is decided to be will be more than magnificant to memorialize this wonderful creature. God-Speed Bobby !!!
OldSaddleBag
Nov. 24, 2007, 02:04 PM
I have just been viewing the Barbaro tributes on YouTube. It's comforting to know how people care and how they have been moved by his story.
Freebird!
Nov. 24, 2007, 02:45 PM
Sung to the tune of the theme song from Lambchop's Playhouse:
This is the thread that never ends....
Yes it goes on and on my friends.
Some people started posting here,
not knowing what it was...
And they'll continue bumping it up, forever
Just because.....
This is the thread that never ends....
vineyridge
Dec. 2, 2007, 05:02 PM
Dr Richardson remembers Barbaro at the AAEP convention. Bloodhorse Story here:
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=42288
OldSaddleBag
Jan. 6, 2008, 08:23 AM
I understand that Edgar has a book coming out -- I'll be very keen to read it!
I will be marking January 29th this year by sending a second -- and final -- poem to New Bolton's staff/Jacksons along with a donation for the Barbaro Fund. He is in my thoughts so very much --- along with all the staff and people involved in his life. His story has touched so many of us!
VirginiaBred
Jan. 6, 2008, 08:38 AM
I'm also hoping that Mr. & Mrs. Jackson will go public with the announcement of his burial site.
merry98
Jan. 6, 2008, 09:17 AM
VirginiaBred -- Has it been decided upon, but not yet announced?
La Gringa
Jan. 6, 2008, 10:14 AM
I was in the co-op yesterday and saw the Breyer Barbaro. I paused to think about him.
RIP Barbaro... we miss you. :sadsmile:
VirginiaBred
Jan. 6, 2008, 01:48 PM
VirginiaBred -- Has it been decided upon, but not yet announced?
Yes.
I wanted to mention it, but have been asked not to. The Jackson's should be the ones to announce it, obviously.
It's perfect, however.
holmes
Jan. 6, 2008, 06:38 PM
Yes.
I wanted to mention it, but have been asked not to. The Jackson's should be the ones to announce it, obviously.
It's perfect, however.
I am surprised it has not happened yet...........
vineyridge
Jan. 6, 2008, 07:26 PM
New Bolton, perhaps? They have been such huge supporters of the center for so long, and the center and Barbaro are so connected in the Public Mind.
Just a guess. :cool: Hope they announce their decision soon.
ivy62
Jan. 6, 2008, 08:50 PM
It is hard to believe that this time last year we were looking forward to seeing him leave for Ky and then the unthinkable happened..I think about him often and wonder what he would have been...He will live as a legend.
I hope that they find a way to PREVENT laminitis so it never takes another horse..
RIP Barbaro.....you were the best
ravenclaw
Jan. 7, 2008, 10:38 AM
Barbaro died on January 29 of last year. Maybe they are waiting for the anniversary of his death to make the announcement? Just a thought, since the anniversary is coming up soon.
holmes
Jan. 8, 2008, 01:14 AM
Think of the other end of the spectrum than NBC - at NBC he endured a lot, think of a place he enjoyed!!!
I would be surprised if the Jackson's held out till Jan 29th - they do not seem the type that would retain information for a certain date.
el insider
Jan. 8, 2008, 10:34 PM
that poor horse should have been euthanized immediately after he broke down. no horse in history has ever suffered a breakdown of that magnitude and survived. shame on every one of those people involved with barbaro. check out horse show diva dot com they have a racing section
holmes
Jan. 9, 2008, 12:07 AM
El Insider - your comment empitomises the saying 'opinion rich, but fact poor'. Knowing all the people involved, there is no doubt in my mind they made the right decisions. They all are experienced horse people, have put their far of horses down and would not hesitate to do the right thing.
ivy62
Jan. 9, 2008, 09:47 AM
el insider- are you saying that NO horses that have broken limbs have survived? Some have even had prosthetic limbs and do very well check your facts before commenting. And by the way if you saw pictures of "the Horse" he looked very happy until the end and that is when they ended it. Also, how can we have hope for prevention and treatment education without animals to try new concepts?
VirginiaBred
Jan. 9, 2008, 10:00 AM
El Insider - your comment empitomises the saying 'opinion rich, but fact poor'. Knowing all the people involved, there is no doubt in my mind they made the right decisions. They all are experienced horse people, have put their far of horses down and would not hesitate to do the right thing.
What he said.
And besides, this has been discussed ad nauseum...........
caffeinated
Jan. 9, 2008, 10:25 AM
that poor horse should have been euthanized immediately after he broke down. no horse in history has ever suffered a breakdown of that magnitude and survived. shame on every one of those people involved with barbaro. check out horse show diva dot com they have a racing section
Way to advertise your website, there. Do you do that every time you post?
:lol:
holmes
Jan. 10, 2008, 11:09 AM
I would compare the efforts to save Barbaro as being similar to the ones that saved Sefton. Sefton was the Calvery horse who sustained 38 seperate wounds from a nail bomb blast in Hyde Park, England. He had a severed jugular, blindness in his left eye from a burn and endured 8 hours of surgery. On news reports that night he was given a 50/50 chance. He had incurable lameness, but returned to work and inspired a nation standing guard where he had been injured and did so, so proudly! He was later retired and lived to the age of 33. In 1982 equine surgery was not was it is today, and Sefton help raise $800,000 for surgical improvements, and research at Royal Veterinary College London.
I met Sefton as a little boy, and still remember it to this day! It was fantastic!! I have met some famous horses, but Sefton is number on in my book! Another interesting fact was Camilla's (Prince Charles new wife) brother was the one who ran over and help Sefton as his groom was injured too!
el insider
Jan. 10, 2008, 12:09 PM
am all for saving the ones who have a clear chance at surviving. have had several of my own with fractures and with proper care they returned to productive lives. (not at the track of course) opinion rich i think not !!! barbaro was on pain meds from the minute he broke down until the minute he was euthanized. that poor horse never ever had a chance. there is no horse in history who has survived a breakdown of that magnitude.pure arrogance and vanity were what kept those people involved with attempts to save barbaro. i read the vanity fair article about him and loved the refrain "never fall in love with a horse" throughout. aside from shoddy journalism lets point out anyone who loved a horse would NEVER have put a horse they loved through all of that. that horse was so emaciated and pathetic at the end it was a disgrace to our sport. what a way for such a strong horse end his life. frmo the owners, trainers and vets... shame on all of them!!!
Texarkana
Jan. 10, 2008, 12:19 PM
am all for saving the ones who have a clear chance at surviving. have had several of my own with fractures and with proper care they returned to productive lives. (not at the track of course) opinion rich i think not !!! barbaro was on pain meds from the minute he broke down until the minute he was euthanized. that poor horse never ever had a chance. there is no horse in history who has survived a breakdown of that magnitude.pure arrogance and vanity were what kept those people involved with attempts to save barbaro. i read the vanity fair article about him and loved the refrain "never fall in love with a horse" throughout. aside from shoddy journalism lets point out anyone who loved a horse would NEVER have put a horse they loved through all of that. that horse was so emaciated and pathetic at the end it was a disgrace to our sport. what a way for such a strong horse end his life. frmo the owners, trainers and vets... shame on all of them!!!
I usually don't feed the trolls, but...
I spent 40+ hours a week with Barbaro from May 20, 2006 until I moved to Tennessee on October 26, 2006 as a member of his medical team. After I moved, I was in daily contact with his entire "team" including owners, trainers, and medical support staff.
I am only bringing this up to give me some clout when I say you are grossly misinformed.
And regardless, this is all in the past. There is no point in rehashing it again, and again, and again...
holmes
Jan. 10, 2008, 12:29 PM
Having tended to horses with fractures does mean your opinion on this subject is fact.
No horse hasd survived the a severed jugular, the massive trauma, or 8 hours of surgery that Sefton did - yet he made it.
I will help you a little more:
Here is the definition of opinion:
A belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
Here are your opinions:
>>That poor horse never ever had a chance<<
>>pure arrogance and vanity were what kept those people involved with attempts to save barbaro<<
>>anyone who loved a horse would NEVER have put a horse they loved through all of that.<<
>>that horse was so emaciated and pathetic at the end it<<
>>that poor horse should have been euthanized immediately after he broke down<<
>>it was a disgrace to our sport<<
As I am on a roll, here is your incorrect facts:
>>is no horse in history who has survived a breakdown of that magnitude<<
Here is one: http://www.fund4horses.org/images/sweetnothing_after2.jpg
el insider
Jan. 10, 2008, 01:34 PM
hope you enjoyed contributing to the horses inevitable demise. congratulations.
el insider
Jan. 10, 2008, 01:37 PM
but if you consider it "clout" then by all means, pat yourself on the back.
VirginiaBred
Jan. 10, 2008, 01:54 PM
el insider, please start another thread on your opinions on keeping injured horses alive.
Just don't do it on this thread. I started this to have positive thought on Barbaro.
Absolutely no need to post negativity here.
Thank you.
ravenclaw
Jan. 10, 2008, 02:38 PM
Dr. Dean Richardson has spoken about how much he learned from working on Barbaro. He learned things that worked well and things to do differently next time. Things that will help other horses in the future. If risks aren't taken sometimes and new things aren't tried, then there won't be advances in medicine.
Barbaro's injuries were bad and it was a long shot that he would make it. But from the media reports I read, he came pretty close to making it.
el insider -- Since Texarkana was actually there taking care of Barbaro, she is more qualified than you are to talk about what happened and the quality of life he had all those months.
tradewind
Jan. 10, 2008, 06:50 PM
I see no reason to further feed trolls like el insider, this was gone over until I could have puked last year. The fact is that Barbaros whole team was interested in his best interests and when it became clear that his best interest was euthanasia, there was no hesitancy on anybodys part. I for one, felt gratitude and pride that such a magnificent racehorse had such magnificent people taking care of him. I am anxious to hear the final plans for his ashes.
Glimmerglass
Jan. 15, 2008, 10:05 AM
Baltimore Sun Jan 15, 2008 "Decision due on Barbaro's ashes" (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/horseracing/bal-sp.barbaro15jan15,0,5997449.story)
excerpt
Yesterday, Jackson said the museum idea had been put aside, but every outside offer of a resting place has been considered and she and her husband are "very close" to making a decision.
"It's taken us long enough," she said. "The No. 1 thing we've been doing is trying to decide who will do a statue of Barbaro. We've spent time looking at various artists' work, and we're now waiting on maquettes [small preliminary models] to see how each artist represents him. That's what we're waiting for. Once we see those, and I don't know how much longer that will take, everything should come together.
"He will be in a significant place where there is access to everyone who is interested in visiting him," she said. "It's an appropriate place in terms of how we like to think of him."
Glimmerglass
Jan. 24, 2008, 02:54 PM
Thankfull Roy and Gretchen Jackson have distanced themselves away from this freaking mess to be installed in Central Park: BloodHorse 1-24-08 "Barbaro Statue for Central Park" (http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=43312)
Roy Jackson, who campaigned Barbaro under the name of Lael Stables, would not comment on the statue other than to say, “We have absolutely nothing to do with it.”
It's sick to use the death of a horse to push an agenda especially when those persons have utterly no clue about racing. This b.s. of making Congress pass a law to disclose breakdowns is what sets me off. Such stats are in large part provided albeit not as a public press release but to a JC related organization.
Idiot press release (http://www.send2press.com/newswire/2008-01-0123-004.shtml)
Barnfairy
Jan. 24, 2008, 02:58 PM
This is a disgrace. It does Barbaro no justice. Did you catch the description of the statue?:
The press release states that the statue, being installed courtesy of the Kesting Gallery, will depict Barbaro “in the winner’s circle, on his back, with his number 8 saddle cloth draping his belly, and hooves in the air, representing his inability to stand on his feet due to the debilitating laminitis which followed the shattered ankle he suffered in the 2006 Preakness Stakes.”
I wonder if this can be stopped. I hope so.
VirginiaBred
Jan. 24, 2008, 03:05 PM
It makes me sick. As Glimmer said, using the death of a horse to push an agenda is outrageous. I hope it can be stopped also.
hitchinmygetalong
Jan. 24, 2008, 03:23 PM
It makes me sick. As Glimmer said, using the death of a horse to push an agenda is outrageous. I hope it can be stopped also.
What? Are you SERIOUS? What about all the foundation money that has POURED in after Barbaro's death? Why is THAT acceptable but this is an outrage?
Who knows, maybe a statue of a "belly up" horse will have much more impact than a head shot of a what appears to be a perfectly healthy animal.
Go ahead and flame away, but your outrage at this "agenda" is the essence of hypocrisy.
Glimmerglass
Jan. 24, 2008, 03:45 PM
Go ahead and flame away, but your outrage at this "agenda" is the essence of hypocrisy.
I'm not a FOB and have never looked to use him for any purposes of raising money or pushing legislation or reform. The Grayson-Jockey Research Foundation has been putting money into laminitis long before Barbaro was conceived let alone a trained to run.
If I'm a hypocrite somehow in saying that I dislike an artist who feels the need to make a political and commercial statement over the unfortunate death of a horse so be it.
Accordingly then I'll 'eagerly' await Daniel Edwards next statue to be released coinciding on Breeders' Cup Classic day of George Washington on his side in the mud with the agenda to abolish dirt track racing. Or his statue of Massoud to be unveiled on opening day of Saratoga to coincide the anniversary of his death July 25, 2007 on the turf - again to promote the need for Congress to abolish horses running on it.
Yep nothing like using public space and art to push an agenda afixed to a populist name in the hopes to sell more of your work or at the very least generate controversy to build a name.
caffeinated
Jan. 24, 2008, 03:52 PM
Considering the other work of this artist (http://www.caplakesting.com/danedwards/index.htm) I'm sort of surprised that they would put his stuff out there for all to see.
Just sort of tasteless, if you ask me (as is putting Barbaro's name on a "law" that his own owners and connections have nothing to do with. Just seems sort of cheap. Raising money for the agenda of laminitis research is at least beneficial and related to the horse, and supported by his owners. It at least makes sense...)
(of course, many also used Barbaro to further other agendas- anti slaughter and rescue work, which on its surface is great, but may have been taken to really insane levels by some FOBs...)
Barnfairy
Jan. 24, 2008, 04:07 PM
This is thinly veiled anti-racing propaganda, plain and simple. It doesn't help horses in any way.
From the memorial's website, BarbarosLaw.com:
Barbaro’s Law
The Memorial’s website, BarbarosLaw.com, provides an online petition urging Congress to pass a law that would arm consumers with the truth about the perils of horseracing by requiring racetracks to disclose race-related injury and fatality statistics. “Informed race patrons may choose to avoid contributing to the breakdown and destruction of racehorses by not buying a ticket or placing a bet,” said gallery co-director, David Kesting. Estimates are that 700-800 horses are killed on racecourses annually in the US and Canada with an additional 375 racehorse deaths in the UK.
I'd argue that career horse-players, the ones that hole up in their "office" consisting of a simulcast screen within a cubicle completely removed from view of the actual track itself, Daily Racing Form in hand, won't give two hoots about the proposal of a "Barbaros Law" anyway, no matter how shocking the statue.
VirginiaBred
Jan. 24, 2008, 04:10 PM
Raising money for the agenda of laminitis research is at least beneficial and related to the horse, and supported by his owner.
I agree with raising money for laminitis research, totally. I just hate using the name of a single horse to try to promote it further. It has happened to so many, and the Jackson's aren't connected with this.
miss_critic
Jan. 24, 2008, 06:06 PM
My opinion is that this (statue) is unproductive.
Laurierace
Jan. 24, 2008, 07:47 PM
I can't tell you how happy I was to hear that the Jackson's have nothing to do with that monstrosity. At first I thought that was where they were going to put his ashes and that was the statue the chose to commemorate him. Totally disgusting rubbish if you ask me.
miss_critic
Jan. 24, 2008, 09:22 PM
More:
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080124/SPORTS/80124080/1002/rss04
A spokeswoman for the New York City Department of Parks & Recreation said it has not received an application for a special event permit or a temporary public art permit allowing the unveiling................."This has nothing to do with us, nothing whatsoever,'' Barbaro's co-owner, Gretchen Jackson, said of the memorial. "This is not the kind of thing you'd really want to see.
"It's just startling that someone wants to remember Barbaro like that. But it doesn't bother me. I have a great picture of Barbaro in my mind. I know how everyone will really remember him.''
and did anybody notice this from this website? http://barbaroslaw.com/
What complete $%*&^@*^ idiots.
Barbaro, winner of the Kentucky Derby by the largest margin of victory since 1946, was considered a shoe-in for The Triple Crown and the English Derby, fuelling speculation his life was prolonged for the earning of stud fees.
Laurierace
Jan. 24, 2008, 10:36 PM
"It's just startling that someone wants to remember Barbaro like that. But it doesn't bother me. I have a great picture of Barbaro in my mind. I know how everyone will really remember him.''
Ok I wasn't with Barbaro throughout his hospitalization, but I would bet everything I own that there was never a single second where Barbaro looked anything like that statue. Not once did he lie there with all four legs in the air because he was too sore to stand. He was medicated to minimize his pain the entire time and at the very end when the pain was too much for him they had him in a sling, not laying on his back in agony. Its not a memory, its a fallacy. I bet some PETA ahole is behind this whole disgraceful mess.
canyonoak
Jan. 24, 2008, 10:55 PM
Do you think it would help if we started a write-in campaign to explain our distaste and incredulity?
Does anyone know to whom we should send a letter or email?
Perhaps the artist could do a statue of a carriage horse belly up instead???
only half-kidding about that--but ever hopeful, and serious about writing to someone.
Kenike
Jan. 25, 2008, 01:25 AM
I seriously doubt it. Artists like this guy have only one thing in mind...and you can't argue with someone who believes they're always right while everyone else is wrong. :no: Disgusting, indeed!
And what the heck is the deal with Barbaro's Law? They can't even get their facts straight, let alone anything else!!
I think Mrs. Jackson is handling all of this so gracefully.
OldSaddleBag
Jan. 25, 2008, 09:04 AM
Can I ask if anyone has knowledge of any television networks planning any news or feature segments on their programs that will commemorate Barbaro this coming week? Do you hink the nightly national news broadcasts will mention him? I hope that there will be some screening of him and how people feel today and highlighting some of the good that is being done in his name. Thank you so much. Can I also ask the administrators, if we post poems or other writings on the discussions here, do they become the property of the boards?
ivy62
Jan. 25, 2008, 09:12 AM
Eventhough other horses suffer from laminitis naming a fund after him is not a bad idea since his owners became huge donors to the cause. A lot of horses suffer the same fate so it needed more attention and money for research. As you will like a jump start.. There are many buildings and funds named for benefactors.
That statue is dispicable (sp) it is not a representation it is HIS view, but that is art..
VirginiaBred
Jan. 25, 2008, 09:24 AM
Can I ask if anyone has knowledge of any television networks planning any news or feature segments on their programs that will commemorate Barbaro this coming week? Do you hink the nightly national news broadcasts will mention him? I hope that there will be some screening of him and how people feel today and highlighting some of the good that is being done in his name. Thank you so much. Can I also ask the administrators, if we post poems or other writings on the discussions here, do they become the property of the boards?
I know of this:
There will be a radio program in honor of Barbaro on the following link at 9:00 P.M. EST, on 1-29-08. This promises some beautiful classical music, other music, as well as heartfelt words.
To actually get to the webstream, go to http://studorgs.bowdoin.edu/wbor and click on the "listen!" button.
Kenike
Jan. 25, 2008, 05:19 PM
VB, is there any way you can remind us of this broadcast? Some of us (umm, me) are too blonde to remember....
ASB Stars
Jan. 27, 2008, 12:54 PM
So, what do we COTH FOB's have in mind for 1.29.08? :cry: I know I'll be thinking of him- but then, I do that alot....
VirginiaBred
Jan. 27, 2008, 04:51 PM
VB, is there any way you can remind us of this broadcast? Some of us (umm, me) are too blonde to remember....
You can't say that, cause I'm blonde also..........
I'll try my best to bump this up on Tuesday.
VirginiaBred
Jan. 27, 2008, 05:01 PM
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=43364
Barbaro Legacy Strong a Year Later
The white wooden fence once tacked with homemade signs expressing prayers and appeals to "Grow, Hoof, Grow" are bare. Only students pass through the lobby that overflowed with floral arrangements, get-well cards, and baskets stuffed with carrots and apples.
The sole visual evidence at the New Bolton Center in Kennett Square, Pa., that the large animal hospital was ever Barbaro's intensive care home for eight months is a portrait of the bay colt blazing toward the finish line in his stirring 6 1/2 -length victory in the 2006 Kentucky Derby.
It's the way Barbaro should be honored.
The breathtaking stride that swiftly covered grass or dirt and those Triple Crown dreams lofted by the widest Derby margin in 60 years are what those close to Barbaro remember now.
"Sometimes," said Gretchen Jackson, Barbaro's co-owner, "I can still see him."
If Barbaro's near-flawless career made him one of racing's greats, it was the feisty fight for his life from his horrific breakdown at the Preakness that morphed the colt into a symbol of courage, strength, and inspiration all around the world. What few might have guessed when Barbaro was rushed from Pimlico Race Course to the sprawling, 650-acre campus in Kennett Square was how he would create a legacy that perhaps not even a Triple Crown would have brought him.
So on Jan 29, one year from the day Barbaro was euthanized after complications from his gruesome breakdown, his most devoted fans will hit Internet message boards to leave notes "for Barbaro" and observe a moment of silence. Perhaps then, the Fans of Barbaro -- or, FOBs -- can also take solace and pride in all they've done in Barbaro's name for equine awareness and horse protection. Their tireless efforts might be the greatest tribute of all.
"I think it's just great that everything came out in a positive force with Barbaro, and it still continues," Jackson said. "People just did their best. He had that effect on people."
Jackson and her husband, Roy, are reminded daily how Barbaro touched everyone from the fanatical Triple Crown followers to those who paid scant attention to the sport until they heard of the colt's plight. That's one reason why the Jacksons are still carefully and respectfully considering where to bring the ashes of their beloved colt.
Barbaro's ashes remain with the Jacksons, and Gretchen Jackson said they are still trying to decide the best way to honor the Derby winner. Jackson hasn't given up the idea of a museum, but plans now likely call for his final resting place to be near a yet-to-be built statue.
..........and
"I'm one of those people where the ashes mean nothing to me compared to the memory of the horse," said Dr. Dean Richardson, chief of surgery at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center.
Outside of the Jacksons, no one was as emotionally connected with Barbaro as Richardson. Even as weeks of positive updates turned into months, it was Richardson who cautioned an optimistic public that laminitis, the often-fatal hoof disease, could cost Barbaro his life.
In the end, a series of ailments -- including laminitis in the left rear hoof, an abscess in the right rear hoof, as well as new laminitis in both front feet -- proved too much for Barbaro.
Now, additional help to battle the dire disease can be found at New Bolton thanks to the financial generosity of the Jacksons, the FOBs, and others simply wanting to help -- just another way that shows Barbaro's legacy stretched far beyond a convincing Kentucky Derby victory.
The Barbaro Fund at New Bolton has raised more than $1.3 million and counting, with the money put toward both needed expansion of the George D. Widener Large Animal Hospital and the purchase of equipment like a new operating table and recovery raft, not unlike the one used to calmly awake Barbaro from the anesthetic.
More than $2.7 million has been raised with a separate fund for laminitis research, and last year Dr. Hannah Galantino-Homer was appointed as lead investigator of the newly created laminitis research initiative.
The laminitis initiative will foster training programs and studies for new treatments of equine diseases.
"It isn't so much the amount; it's the continued interest," Richardson said of the support.
The Jacksons also created a $3 million endowment named for Richardson at the University of Pennsylvania's veterinary school to study equine diseases.
The FOBs, strangers stretched across the country with a common bond, have tried to pass legislation that would save horses from slaughter. The Barbaro devotees have raised more than $800,000 and saved more 1,950 horses from slaughter. On the 29th of each month, the date of Barbaro's death, fans are encouraged to donate $29 and the money raised goes toward New Bolton's laminitis fund.
The FOBs will present New Bolton with a check for the fund on Monday.
..........and
There's hope yet the Jacksons could still experience the same exhilaration that Barbaro brought them. The Jacksons, who have been in the business for 30-plus years, still own about 70 horses and nearly 20 are racing. Barbaro has two full brothers, a 2-year-old named Nicanor and an unnamed yearling. Nicanor trains in Florida, and the yearling is in Lexington, Ky.
Gretchen Jackson plans to visit Nicanor soon for an update on his progress.
"Nobody's going to say he's going to be a star, but he's doing everything OK," she said. "He's certainly a great horse to look at."
Jackson, who serves on the Penn Vet Board of Overseers, still makes the short drive from her farm down the road to visit New Bolton. Her daughter-in-law is a veterinarian there, so instead of stopping by to watch Barbaro gobble treats, she's "dropping off clothing for granddaughters."
Each time Jackson walks in, maybe glances at the portrait across from the check-in desk, it's impossible not to think of the gallant colt who took so many on the ride of a lifetime.
"You can be back there pretty fast," she said. "It's amazing."
For the entire article, please see the posted link above.
hipsdontlie
Jan. 28, 2008, 11:48 AM
POOR HORSE DIDNT DESERVE TO SUFFER FOR THE VANITY OF HIS CONNECTIONS
Laurierace
Jan. 28, 2008, 12:07 PM
POOR HORSE DIDNT DESERVE TO SUFFER FOR THE VANITY OF HIS CONNECTIONS
You couldn't be more out of line if you tried. You have said your peace many times, now drop the subject. This is not the place for such drivel.
hipsdontlie
Jan. 28, 2008, 12:14 PM
i think i may have stated this opinion at the most 3 times. "drivel" is spending a lot of time and money on a fairytale story with no end in sight. as a racehorse owner, breeder and trainer there is nothing more heart warming than a success story. i am the FIRST to stop training them when they are sore. cant count the number of youngsters that i found good homes for as show prospects when they looked like the rigors of training were too much. one was a very expensive 2 yr old in training and her ankle was sore and the vet told me to run her anyway and i asked the long term diagnosis and he said "oh itll probably blow apart at some point" that was all i needed to hear and after she had some down time i found her a home as a show horse and the owners still have her and love her. BARBARO never had a chance with that sort of injury and NO horse with an injury like that has ever survived. HORSE SHOW DIVA DOT COM
hipsdontlie
Jan. 28, 2008, 12:15 PM
also laurierace i am far from being out of line. just one of the few to state the truth since everyone has more fun making heroes out of people that made him suffer. HORSE SHOW DIVA DOT COM
Laurierace
Jan. 28, 2008, 12:16 PM
Ok three times is enough, we get it. Move on to your next windmill.
Glimmerglass
Jan. 28, 2008, 06:49 PM
Ok three times is enough, we get it. Move on to your next windmill.
Oh come now, shame on you Laurie as you have to say it correctly - that's WINDMILL (AT) HORSE SHOW DIVA DOT COM
See you have to learn to re-plug that oh so subtle advertising just right :D
Laurierace
Jan. 28, 2008, 07:47 PM
Oh come now, shame on you Laurie as you have to say it correctly - that's WINDMILL (AT) HORSE SHOW DIVA DOT COM
See you have to learn to re-plug that oh so subtle advertising just right :D
Or you could just plug it in your signature like everyone else does.
VirginiaBred
Jan. 28, 2008, 07:53 PM
For those interested parties ~
There will be a moment of silence tomorrow at 10:30 EST in memory of Barbaro.
VirginiaBred
Jan. 28, 2008, 07:59 PM
The Louisviille newspaper has reported that Churchill Downs has a press conference scheduled with M/M Jackson for 10 am on Tuesday 1/29/2008.
Looks like Barbaro's going back to Kentucky!
courier-journal.com (http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage)
Monday, January 28, 2008
UPDATED: 3:46 PM
Churchill plans announcement with Barbaro owners By Gregory A. Hall
ghall@courier-journal.com
The Courier-Journal
Churchill Downs has scheduled a news conference for Tuesday, the anniversary of Barbaro's death, that will include the 2006 Kentucky Derby winner 's owners Roy and Gretchen Jackson.
The Jacksons have have been considering locations for the Derby winner's ashes, but Churchill officials would not discuss the topic of the announcement.
Barbaro broke a leg shortly after the start of the Preakness Stakes and was euthanized after months of treatment because of a painful hoof disease called laminitis.
Following the 10 a.m. announcement, the Jacksons will conduct a charity autograph signing in the Kentucky Derby Museum lobby from 11 a.m. until 1 p.m. to benefit a laminitis research fund at the University of Pennsylvania’s New Bolton Center, where Barbaro was treated.
ASB Stars
Jan. 28, 2008, 08:05 PM
It is fitting. :yes:
I can still see him, in my minds eye, busting down the stretch like nobody had since Secretariat....
Man, I am crying again already....:cry:
VirginiaBred
Jan. 28, 2008, 08:31 PM
It is a good place that can handle a bunch of folks, and benefit the racing industry at the same time. Glad it's (finally) decided.
ArtilleryHill
Jan. 28, 2008, 08:54 PM
A horse with a similar injury did actually survive, and at a time when surgical techniques were considerably less advanced than they are now. It's an amazing story, which you can read (with an update that the mare was still doing well in 2006) at the below address. Hey, you've obviously got every right to your opinion, but you might want to get your facts straight.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/articleindex/article.asp?id=33701
VirginiaBred
Jan. 28, 2008, 08:57 PM
Brette recalls thrill of riding Barbaro
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/national-news/2008/January/29/Brette-recalls-thrill-of%20riding-Barbaro.aspx
Perhaps no one was as intimately connected with Barbaro as exercise rider Peter Brette, who experienced the thrill of climbing on his back just about every morning from his arrival as a two-year-old until the day of his final start in the 2006 Preakness Stakes (G1). A champion jockey in Dubai—where Brette also trained for the Maktoum family—the native of Suffolk, England, spent months on the road with Barbaro in Florida, where Roy and Gretchen Jackson’s homebred Dynaformer colt prepped for the Triple Crown.
..........and
Brette knows many people remember Barbaro mostly for his courageous battle to overcome catastrophic injuries suffered in the Preakness Stakes and acute laminitis in his left hind foot. Brette fully appreciates his courage and will to survive, but his fondest memories are of Barbaro while he was in training.
“He’s the best horse I’ve ever sat on and probably ever will,” Brette added. “I think the response that came from Barbaro was unbelievable, something I don’t think I’ll ever witness again. The way people sort of attached themselves to him was amazing.
“For me, as a racehorse he was brilliant. I think most people don’t associate him with being brilliant because he wasn’t around for so long. They associate him with his fight for life. For me personally, I think he was a truly brilliant racehorse, and we all got a glimpse of that in the Kentucky Derby.”
Barbaro never lost a race he finished. He won his first three starts on turf by a combined 20 1/4 lengths, including a romp in the Laurel Futurity and a visually impressive Tropical Park Derby (G3) score. Brette had his doubts about whether Barbaro’s talent would transfer to the main track, but he answered any lingering questions with victories in the Holy Bull Stakes (G3) and Florida Derby (G1) at Gulfstream Park.
............and
“Unfortunately, every other horse has to measure up to him now. In my racing life, he left a huge void. We have some very nice horses in the barn, and they all have to measure up to him. That’s probably unfair, but that’s life.”
For the entire story, see the posted link above
Glimmerglass
Jan. 28, 2008, 09:07 PM
A horse with a similar injury did actually survive, and at a time when surgical techniques were considerably less advanced than they are now.
Actually you can look much further back to another horse with the same injury who survived and succeeded at stud when techniques late used on Barbaro were just being developed - 1970 2-yr old of the Year - Hoist The Flag. Owned by Mr/Mrs Stephen C. Clark Jr. of my hometown and both of whom I had met a few times.
Video: ESPN 06/09/2006 Hoist the Flag 2 min 22 seconds (http://www.ntra.com/video.aspx?id=18273)
ravenclaw
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:18 PM
And don't forget about Nureyev. In 1987, he broke his hind leg in a pasture accident. It was a horrible injury, but he pulled through and lived until 2001. Initially, he was given a 10% chance of surviving.
miss_critic
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:20 PM
Sorry-sort of OT but related to this thread-
What is the record here on the COTH BB for most posts/views on a thread?
Texarkana
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:34 PM
Sorry-sort of OT but related to this thread-
What is the record here on the COTH BB for most posts/views on a thread?
I don't know, but I know Suerte had more than Barbaro with 606 pages, over 12,000 replies, and nearly 317,000 views:
http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=87469&highlight=suerte
Barnfairy
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:34 PM
Personal Ensign (http://horseracing.about.com/library/blpensign.htm).
VirginiaBred
Jan. 29, 2008, 07:57 AM
I don't know, but I know Suerte had more than Barbaro with 606 pages, over 12,000 replies, and nearly 317,000 views:
http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=87469&highlight=suerte
So much of that had to do with Mare Stare, and not with Suerte. Just go through that thread and you can see what I'm talking about.
ivy62
Jan. 29, 2008, 08:02 AM
There have definitely been survivors of horrific accidents. Each have been done differently and the outcomes different maybe they could compare and contrast with the success rate and failure and see where changes could be made for horses in the future.
If you read nureyev's story not every day was bright, or ACN but he went on to survive. Sometimes there are bad days and getting through them is key.
I am very interested in the amputation route, the recovery time must be shorter therefore less case of complications I would believe. Anyone have any experience or info on this?
The Kentucky Derby museum is a grand place for Barbaro's ashes, his greatest victory came there, It is also an amazing place. I hope to visit in April when I go for Rolex...
VirginiaBred
Jan. 29, 2008, 08:05 AM
At 10:30 am today, Eastern Time, we are holding a vigil. Wherever you are, whatever you are doing, please at that time spare some thoughts for a great racehorse and an inspiration for us all to continue his legacy.
At 10:00 am eastern time there will be a press conference held at Churchill Downs hosted by the Jacksons. This conference appears to be to announce the burial site and memorial for Barbaro: A lasting peace for Barbaro (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20080129_A_lasting_peace_for_Barbaro.html?adString =ph.sports/sports;%21category=sports;&randomOrd=012808103044), excerpt:
The Jacksons are going to commission the statue and loan it to Churchill Downs as part of the official Barbaro Memorial Site. The site will be free and accessible to the public 24 hours a day. The Jacksons considered several options for Barbaro's ashes before deciding on Churchill.
"Churchill was where he had his most memorable race," Gretchen Jackson said yesterday. "It will be accessible to all the people who loved him so much. It was hard to wrestle with, but it's just the right place. And Churchill has been great with all this."
Today will see some added Barbaro press coverage, and some of that focus is also on Barbaro's legacy. The following are two examples:
Barbaro's Legacy: A year after death, horse lives on as a vital Web symbol. (http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080129_Barbaros_Legacy.html), excerpt:
The "Fans of Barbaro," as they call themselves, have helped save more than 1,900 horses from slaughter by donating more than $800,000, said Alex Brown, an exercise rider who administers the Web site, which is located at www.alexbrownracing.com. Each week, horse rescuers go on his site and ask for donations to help save horses.
Barbaro's spirit carries on one year after his death (http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/national-news/2008/January/29/Barbaros-spirit-carries-on-one-year-after-his-death.aspx), excerpt:
"I think it has been absolutely remarkable that so many of the Fans of Barbaro participate in horse rescue," Gretchen Jackson said. "Isn't that absolutely remarkable; just a real grassroots movement that has accomplished something, made some changes. It's excellent; if we could just get the [anti-slaughter] bill through Congress it would be even more remarkable."
Continued thanks to AlexBrownRacing.
ravenclaw
Jan. 29, 2008, 09:59 AM
I am very interested in the amputation route, the recovery time must be shorter therefore less case of complications I would believe. Anyone have any experience or info on this?
Here's an article that talks about amputation in horses:
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/horse-health/2006/June/12/Not-just-a-peg-leg.aspx
VirginiaBred
Jan. 29, 2008, 10:01 AM
The Courier-Journal
One year after losing the fight to save Barbaro, Roy and Gretchen Jackson will announce today that the cremated ashes of their 2006 Kentucky Derby winner will be buried at Churchill Downs -- the site of his greatest triumph.
The ashes will be buried at the center of a brick plaza outside the track's Gate 1, which also is near the entrance to the Kentucky Derby Museum. The Jacksons have commissioned a statue of the horse to mark the gravesite.
The location will mean that Barbaro's fans will be able to visit the grave without having to pay to go inside the museum or the racetrack. (Four other former Derby winners -- Brokers Tip, Carry Back, Sunny's Halo and Swaps -- are buried at the museum.)
Roy Jackson said he and his wife still receive cards and letters about the colt, whose fight for life after breaking down in the Preakness Stakes stirred fans from all over the world. Many of those letters "thank us for sharing Barbaro with them," Roy Jackson said in a telephone interview.
The decision to bury him at Churchill is in keeping with that openness, he said: "I think it's appropriate, the place where he ran his greatest race and where the general public can come and pay their respects."
Said Churchill Downs Inc. president Bob Evans: "I have a sneaking suspicion that over the course of a few years, the number of photographs that get taken with people and … this Barbaro statue are going to be mind-boggling."
........and
The Jacksons have been deciding where to bury the ashes, with about three or four sites under consideration. One option was creating a Mid-Atlantic racing museum, but Jackson said that idea didn't advance.
In the meantime, Churchill will install a bronze marker in the garden planter outside Gate 1 to designate where Barbaro's ashes and bronze statue will be. The interment will occur when the statue is erected. Jackson said a decision on the artist should be made in a couple of months.
Evans predicted the impact of the memorial could span decades.
"I just hope that over the course of 25 or 50 years, thousands upon thousands of people -- whether they're coming to an everyday race, the Derby, or going to the museum -- I hope that it's just something that … catches their attention and has some meaning and maybe in some small way produces a few more dollars for laminitis research over time. That would be a good outcome."
ivy62
Jan. 29, 2008, 10:17 AM
Ravenclaw thanks for the article it makes for very intersting reading. I work in the medical profession and have worked with many people that have had amputations done and it frees them....Wish it could happen more with horses.....
In the future I hope medical science has the opportunity to advance as it has through the ability to have these horses to work on.
RIP Barbaro, we will always remember you
Texarkana
Jan. 29, 2008, 10:20 AM
So much of that had to do with Mare Stare, and not with Suerte. Just go through that thread and you can see what I'm talking about.
I know. I was there, too. Regardless of who it's about (and the one who started it and the bulk of it was Suerte), it's a heck of a lot longer than this one.
Texarkana
Jan. 29, 2008, 10:52 AM
Ravenclaw thanks for the article it makes for very intersting reading. I work in the medical profession and have worked with many people that have had amputations done and it frees them....Wish it could happen more with horses.....
I remember reading that amputation article last year. I though it was rather funny how Dr. Redden commented that, "People haven't accepted [equine amputation]."
I don't think amputation has failed to catch on because people don't accept it and view it as "torture" or "aesthetically unpleasing" as Redden implies. Rather, I think the problem lies in the lifetime of aftercare. It's a huge commitment.
Surely, amputation can be done successfully. But equine amputation doesn't "free" horses as it "frees" a person. For the rest of the horse's life, it's going to be 100% dependent on people.
A horse can't learn to put it's prosthesis on by himself. And an amputee horse can't really get around without his prosthesis like a smaller animal can. And horses are just weren't designed to hold up well to significant periods of time down or in a sling.
It's still an interesting article, though. I don't remember ever seriously considering amputation for Barbaro (if the surgeons did, it never made it to my ears). I don't know if that's because at Penn we're less experienced in equine amputation than places like Rood and Riddle, or if there were other factors involved in the decision.
P.S. Sorry for the tangent, I just find the topic extremely interesting.
dressagetraks
Jan. 29, 2008, 12:36 PM
I seem to remember a Q and A session with Dean Richardson, might have been on Talkin' Horses on Blood Horse, when somebody asked about amputation specifically related to Barbaro. His reply was that it worked better with smaller horses, and with a horse of Barbaro's size, you still quite frequently had complications including laminitis in the opposing leg.
holmes
Jan. 29, 2008, 03:11 PM
I honestly do not see amputation as anything except a last ditch effort when bloodflow to the limb has been compromised. It can work, but it can not be compared as a solution similar to human amputation.
Kenike
Jan. 30, 2008, 01:18 AM
I just don't know how amputation would work in a horse, either. I know it's been done, and has been said to be successful, but even a cat needs to relearn how to balance itself.
I'm glad to see the burial site has been chosen, and can't think of a much better location. :yes: I hope to visit someday....
WhiteCamry
Jan. 31, 2008, 11:27 AM
Here's a Barbaro spoof (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/ghost_of_barbaro_appears_to_teach) at The Onion.
caffeinated
Jan. 31, 2008, 11:37 AM
Here's a Barbaro spoof (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/ghost_of_barbaro_appears_to_teach) at The Onion.
*giggle*
(although, I swear I read something at the barbaro boards where someone saw a vision of him in her barn...)
Kenike
Feb. 1, 2008, 01:45 AM
*giggle*
(although, I swear I read something at the barbaro boards where someone saw a vision of him in her barn...)
Oh you've got to be kidding....:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The article was wonderful!!
Milocalwinnings
Feb. 9, 2008, 08:49 PM
Alright, I certainly haven't read this whole thread, but my friend sent me a video and she was convinced that Barbaro's leg was amputated becasue there was a pic of him standing there with the vet and the one leg was shown as amputated above the hock.
I think the pic was photoshopped... and I always thought that amputation was a slim to none chance of being successful in horses... but I'm not a vet so what do I know right?:confused:
Now, I was reading this last page and saw that amputation was talked about a bit... does anyone know if they did amputate? I never heard anything about it, or even any talk about it... so I'm not at all convinced- but she certainly is.
I was just wondering... didn't mean to stir up the Barbaro thread again or anything... just curious as I didn't hear any talk about the possibility at the time (and didn't even think about it as I always assumed they couldn't walk with 3 legs...).
Laurierace
Feb. 9, 2008, 08:51 PM
Barbaro had all four legs still attached when he was euthanized.
Milocalwinnings
Feb. 9, 2008, 08:54 PM
Barbaro had all four legs still attached when he was euthanized.
That's what I figured. I'll pass the info along to my friend.
Sad that someone would photoshop a pic in that way though.:no:
rcloisonne
Feb. 9, 2008, 10:36 PM
I just don't know how amputation would work in a horse, either. I know it's been done, and has been said to be successful, but even a cat needs to relearn how to balance itself.
Here's a stallion who's had a successful amputation:
http://www.serenityequine.com/cfmef.html
Redden has done more than 40 himself and his technique grafting frog tissue to cover and protect the stump is pure genius.
Kenike
Feb. 10, 2008, 02:46 AM
Thanks, RC. I know it's been done (haven't seen that site, though!!), but it just.....boggles my mind!!!
Evalee Hunter
Feb. 10, 2008, 07:28 AM
Here's a stallion who's had a successful amputation:
http://www.serenityequine.com/cfmef.html
Redden has done more than 40 himself and his technique grafting frog tissue to cover and protect the stump is pure genius.
Dr. Andrea Floyd of Serenity Eq has 3 equines that are amputees - the stallion & two mini donkeys which are the cutest things ever! One of our horses is under Dr. Floyd's care & the horse & I take a trip to visit Dr. Floyd every fives weeks.
WhiteCamry
Feb. 14, 2008, 09:44 AM
That's what I figured. I'll pass the info along to my friend.
Sad that someone would photoshop a pic in that way though.:no:
Was this (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50822) the photo?
ravenclaw
Feb. 14, 2008, 09:57 AM
Was this (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50822) the photo?
:rolleyes:
That picture was obviously taken before he was injured. Looks like he just came off the van or is going to get on the van. But I'm sure people who don't know horses and don't follow racing wouldn't know that.
Glimmerglass
Feb. 14, 2008, 10:08 AM
But I'm sure people who don't know horses and don't follow racing wouldn't know that.
I would like to hope those same people do not read The Onion and somehow think the satiracle paper is actually news. You can't fix stupid.
Would those same people think this is a real image of Mitt Romney (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/depressed_candidate_runs_attack_ad)?
WhiteCamry
Feb. 15, 2008, 12:42 PM
:rolleyes:
That picture was obviously taken before he was injured. Looks like he just came off the van or is going to get on the van. But I'm sure people who don't know horses and don't follow racing wouldn't know that.
Nor a joke when they see it.
lesson junkie
Feb. 15, 2008, 08:35 PM
The pic of Barbaro was stupid-the one of Romney was funny.
VirginiaBred
Feb. 17, 2008, 08:02 AM
The article on Dean Richardson: A Year After Barbaro, Dean Richardson's Story is excellent in the February 15th issue of The Chronicle of the Horse.
Barbaro’s chief veterinarian recalls his time with the late Kentucky Derby winner and what it’s meant.
.....................Though he has been gone for a year, Barbaro’s fighting spirit lives on at New Bolton. The Barbaro Fund has raised more than $1.3 million, with proceeds going toward expansion of the George D. Widener Large Animal Hospital. A separate fund has raised $2.7 million for laminitis research.
...........and
“So many people wanted answers right away,” Richardson remembered. “For me, it was all about being focused on the patient.”
...........and
Barbaro’s legacy will likely be the impact he’s had on promoting research into the causes and treatments of injuries such as his. He leaves his mark not with his progeny but with the attention he brings to the prevention and repair of equine injuries and laminitis research.
..........and
Last February, the Jacksons donated $3 million to New Bolton for an endowment in equine-disease research. The endowed chair is named for Barbaro’s team captain: Dr. Dean Richardson.
Please see the February 15th issue of The Chronicle for the complete article.
Caecilius
Feb. 19, 2008, 03:51 PM
I have nothing but the most respect for Dean Richardson and others like him for the excellent treatment they give all of their animals. My complaint about the recent Chronicle article stems from the omission of basic knowledge that has accompanied every Barbaro related article published by both horse and general public sources.
I agree with the article when it indicates Barbaro's impact has a positive impact on promoting research for the treatment of injuries such as his. However, where does the article mention educating owners and the public on the causes? Why did the article omit a fundamental cause: skeletal maturation of the horse? I believe (hope) anyone with a veterinary degree has the knowledge that a horse is not skeletally mature at age two or three. Don’t veterinarians and horsemen have an ethical obligation to discuss this fact openly and freely with the public? Veterinarians are primarily in the business of treatment. What other industry is ethically allowed (and supported) to omit known information to, in effect, drum up more business? Who bears the responsibility of prevention – don’t we look to horsemen and magazines like the Chronicle to discuss the facts?
I am certainly not in favor of ending all competitive horse sports as we know them. I am, however, interested in professionals openly and freely discussing all the facts with the public to promote the better welfare of our horses (and not just business via treatment).
Laurierace
Feb. 19, 2008, 04:43 PM
If skeletal maturation had nothing to do with the initial injury, which it did not, why on earth would it need to be included in an article about him? Are they supposed to talk about colicking when the weather changes abruptly and foundering from getting into the feed room and gorging themselves or any other possible unrelated "facts" as well? Would have been an awfully long article.
On the Farm
Feb. 19, 2008, 05:15 PM
I have nothing but the most respect for Dean Richardson and others like him for the excellent treatment they give all of their animals. My complaint about the recent Chronicle article stems from the omission of basic knowledge that has accompanied every Barbaro related article published by both horse and general public sources.
I agree with the article when it indicates Barbaro's impact has a positive impact on promoting research for the treatment of injuries such as his. However, where does the article mention educating owners and the public on the causes? Why did the article omit a fundamental cause: skeletal maturation of the horse? I believe (hope) anyone with a veterinary degree has the knowledge that a horse is not skeletally mature at age two or three. Don’t veterinarians and horsemen have an ethical obligation to discuss this fact openly and freely with the public? Veterinarians are primarily in the business of treatment. What other industry is ethically allowed (and supported) to omit known information to, in effect, drum up more business? Who bears the responsibility of prevention – don’t we look to horsemen and magazines like the Chronicle to discuss the facts?
I am certainly not in favor of ending all competitive horse sports as we know them. I am, however, interested in professionals openly and freely discussing all the facts with the public to promote the better welfare of our horses (and not just business via treatment).
Actually there has been research performed on three continents by veterinarians which addresses early training and skeletal development of the thorougbred racehorse. It's very available to the public, in fact I think I read a synopsis of some of the Great Britain research in Horse and Hounds magazine. I think, however, that the conclusions drawn from this research may not be agreeable to the "wait until they're 'X' number of years old before training" crowd.
Caecilius
Feb. 19, 2008, 07:16 PM
Laurierace, I do agree with you about the depth of an article that would be needed to cover the topic - the Chronicle didn't have time to go there. Unrelated, extraneous facts are a matter of opinion (they don't have time to go there either). I understand the article was primarily to feature the veterinarian. I am happy for additional research investigating new treatments, but that seams to be what "all" the articles focus on. Dare I say there is an attitude in most of the Barbaro articles of "it's O.K. to continue with high rates of injury, we'll just throw more money at the problem and hire more veterinarians for treatments." Yes, the skeletal maturation information is there, but not brought into mainstream discussions - I believe that is the responsibility of the publication to provide that information. As this particular article states, "Barbaro’s legacy will likely be the impact he’s had on promoting research into the causes and treatments of injuries such as his. He leaves his mark not with his progeny but with the attention he brings to the prevention and repair of equine injuries and laminitis research." I hope to hear more about prevention in future articles - what might be done to direct some of the attracted resources toward the support of horsemen and trainers in the industry before a veterinarian needs to be called.
grits
Feb. 29, 2008, 11:32 AM
It took so long to get a reply that I can't find the thread on any of the first 8 pages of the forum, but I have this clarification from Adrian Benepe, Commissioner of NYC Parks:
"The statue’s artist has applied for a three-hour special event permit. One can certainly argue whether this is a self-promotional art event or a public demonstration, but either way it’s covered by the First Amendment. The statue will not be on display as a temporary art installation, but rather as part of a press conference, after which it will be removed. Parks does not, as a rule, consider content when evaluating special event applications and is in the process of reviewing the application. We will then make a determination on the appropriate and available spaces, date and times for the event."
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