Barbaro ~ America's Horse [Archive] - Page 15

summerhorse

Jan. 14, 2007, 10:31 PM

Hi all---I haven't followed Barbaro's full case, but have been reading up on it.

May I ask a question--was there a reason why they didn't amputate and give him a prostetic? Was it because of other complications that might have become due to a prostetic?

I know that, in most cases, like an athlete, you'd want to salvage the original limb at all costs. I would figure that is the same for Barbaro's situation?

Although amputation has been done in breeding stallions it is the last chance thing. Amputees require a great deal of care and usually end up with laminitis anyway. At this point his broken leg should be strong enough to breed if they can heal up the other one. It's certainly an option down the road though, usually it is the owner who vetos it eithre for looks or the extra care required. The extra care wouldn't be a problem for Barbaro of course but not sure how everyone would feel seeing him with a prosthesis.

For obvious reasons amputation is more successful with smaller horses and ponies.

holmes

Jan. 14, 2007, 11:43 PM

HobbyHorseLabradors

Jan. 15, 2007, 12:28 AM

Check this out...

http://www.handicappedpets.com/gallery/gideon9/

and who is responsible for the work

http://www.serenityequine.com/stories.html

VirginiaBred

Jan. 15, 2007, 08:30 AM

Monday Morning ~

The Barbaro update should be later this morning.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 15, 2007, 11:59 AM

Thanks, Alex~
Update 1329: A comfortable night last night for Barbaro (sunday night). I just spoke to Peter, who had heard from Michael, who had heard from Dr. Richardson. Michael is of course now back in Florida. I asked Peter of Michael's assessment when he went to see Barbaro yesterday morning. Peter said Michael seemed fairly happy with him.
update 11:40 am, monday january 15

VirginiaBred

Jan. 15, 2007, 02:09 PM

cartera45

Jan. 15, 2007, 02:37 PM

Update 1330: Confirmation that Barbaro is comfortable in the Bloodhorse: Barbaro Has 'Improved Significantly' After Latest Surgery (http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37086), relevant excerpt:

"He is doing much better, but he has a long way to go," Dr. Dean Richardson said of the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (gr. I) winner who had been dealt a serious setback in his effort to recover from a broken right rear leg and the laminitis. "He is eating well and we have not had him in his sling for the last 24 hours."
Thanks, Alex.

Thanks for the update. I have to say that I hate reading "Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands." If I had all the money in the world, I would sponsor the derby myself to keep it from having that silly name. My gosh, suppose Depends wanted to sponser it or Head On!!

merrygoround

Jan. 15, 2007, 02:39 PM

Akien Cura Cambiaso's (the best polo player in the world) stallion just had part of his leg amputated - I am not sure the outcome. Last I heard 3 days after surgery he was still not up.

But then their was the case of Macho - he was the first equine amputee in India. He was a cart horse who got hit by a car. The equine hospital rallied around trying to save him, and he initially recovered well on the prosthetic. Unfortunately he caught tetanus from a donkey 3 months later and died.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030627/nt1.jpg

Sorry, the photo came up, but the article did not. How did he catch tetanus from a donkey? Tetanus is not transferable. It usually occurs from a puncture wound or a contamiated wound. I can't imagine them doing surgery with out vaccinating him.

merrygoround

Jan. 15, 2007, 02:41 PM

Good news for the Barabaro Cult!!!! :)

flshgordon

Jan. 15, 2007, 02:51 PM

Thanks for the update. I have to say that I hate reading "Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands." If I had all the money in the world, I would sponsor the derby myself to keep it from having that silly name. My gosh, suppose Depends wanted to sponser it or Head On!!

I agree.....it's just the Kentucky Derby, it doesn't need to have the sponsor's name listed with it every time it's in print but the media continues the silliness. Gotta get that free advertising plug in....although I wouldn't be able to tell you at all what "Yum!" brands is.....

holmes

Jan. 15, 2007, 02:58 PM

Sorry, the photo came up, but the article did not. How did he catch tetanus from a donkey? Tetanus is not transferable. It usually occurs from a puncture wound or a contamiated wound. I can't imagine them doing surgery with out vaccinating him.

(From The Times of India)

MUMBAI: Macho, perhaps the first Indian horse to be fitted with an artificial leg, died on Friday at Ahimsa hospital in Malad after it contracted tetanus virus from a donkey that was also being treated there. Macho survived a road accident three months ago.

In the first week of April, Bhavin Gathani of the Animal Welfare Board of India had found Macho in a pool of blood on the Western Express Highway at Dahisar.

He brought to Ahimsa hospital for treatment. The doctors suggested that Macho be put out of his misery because his right front leg would have to be amputated and he would never be able to stand again. But the office-bearers of the hospital, run the Jain community, were against killing the horse.

So Mr Gathani began to do the rounds of companies manufacturing artificial limbs. " I contacted atleast 60 such companies and finally Ottobock Health Care responded positively,'' he said. On June 26, Macho got an artificial leg below the knee.

Though the doctors had expected Macho to trot in the next three months, the horse showed great improvement within 15 days. Macho could stand up and walk, although he could not gallop.

Many animal lovers turned up at Macho's burial held on Friday at the premises of Kora Kendra Trust in Vasai.

msj

Jan. 15, 2007, 04:26 PM

I agree.....it's just the Kentucky Derby, it doesn't need to have the sponsor's name listed with it every time it's in print but the media continues the silliness. Gotta get that free advertising plug in....although I wouldn't be able to tell you at all what "Yum!" brands is.....

Actually, I think they have to do the Yum brands... I know with the Stuart Horse Trials we had to do the same thing, presented by Cosequin, etc.

Yum Brands pays a lot to get their name out there and the media is supposed to keep using that until the 2007 derby, presuming the 2007 derby has a different sponsor.

Glad the big boy is doing better and off his sling. :) :) :)

cartera45

Jan. 15, 2007, 04:31 PM

Actually, I think they have to do the Yum brands... I know with the Stuart Horse Trials we had to do the same thing, presented by Cosequin, etc.

Yum Brands pays a lot to get their name out there and the media is supposed to keep using that until the 2007 derby, presuming the 2007 derby has a different sponsor.

Glad the big boy is doing better and off his sling. :) :) :)

Oh I'm sure it has to be done that way contractually. I looked up Yum Brands and they are Kentucky Fried, Taco Bell, A&W and Long John Silver. I guess we're lucky it's not "Long John Silver's Kentucky Derby."

Ghazzu

Jan. 15, 2007, 05:57 PM

(From The Times of India)

MUMBAI: Macho, perhaps the first Indian horse to be fitted with an artificial leg, died on Friday at Ahimsa hospital in Malad after it contracted tetanus virus from a donkey that was also being treated there. Macho survived a road accident three months ago.

.

Prolly a reporter who doesn't know better--for one thing, tetanus is not a virus...

irishannie

Jan. 15, 2007, 08:23 PM

If this is a cult, can I join? I love Barbaro!!!!!!

VirginiaBred

Jan. 16, 2007, 07:42 AM

Tuesday Morning ~

The Barbaro updates have slowed down compared to last week, and that is a good thing!

ivy62

Jan. 16, 2007, 08:13 AM

thank g-d! I cannot handle all the different tones! He is a very smart horse who wants to live and he shows us every day what a champion he is... It is very easy for those not directly involved to make negative comments but if we could all do the same I am sure we would.......Barbaro's legacy will not be undefeated until he broke down, it will be medical advancement that will help future horses! The Barbaro Affect!!!

Go Bobby Go!!!
Still jingling and lighting candles in NY!

VirginiaBred

Jan. 16, 2007, 02:18 PM

Thanks, Alex~
Update 1334: Mrs. Jackson called and left a voice mail. She had visited Barbaro around noon-time. He was comfortable and was eating his Lael-grass and looking bright. Peter also left a voice mail and noted Barbaro had had a comfortable night. Peter noted that Dean told Michael Barbaro was comfortable, he had a good night, he was lying down a lot, and when he gets up, if he wants he walks over to the sling. Basically two good reports on my voice mail!

eggbutt

Jan. 16, 2007, 02:34 PM

Awesome! Thank you VB & Co.

carlo213

Jan. 16, 2007, 02:40 PM

Have followed this thread from the beginning....only for the updates on Barbaros condition.... obviously I post infrequently... too many insignificant comments
posted and always the same people.
I did want to thank you for the information & links concerning the use of prosthetics with horses... was absolutely fasinating... and the photos of horses with laminitis outstanding. This vet ,with her small facility ,is doing exceptional work.
Thank you for relating the information & increasing my knowledge.

caffeinated

Jan. 16, 2007, 02:45 PM

Have followed this thread from the beginning....only for the updates on Barbaros condition....

Carlo, if you want, the updates that are posted here are actually from another site- you can get them directly and in real time from http://www.timwoolleyracing.com/ . The "barbaro updates" section is where the most recent updates are posted.

That way you can get the updated information as it happens, if you don't want to sort through all the BB stuff (unless of course you want to, as there are occasional interesting tidbits and a sense of comeraderie here)

VirginiaBred

Jan. 16, 2007, 03:03 PM

Update 1335: The Eclipse Awards dinner will be held January 22, it is nice to know the Barbaro team will win at least one award: Jacksons, New Bolton to Receive Special Eclipse Award (http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37106). Mr. Jackson is quoted:

"We've tried to do the right thing from the start," Roy Jackson said. "It has been a surreal journey for us since the start of 2006 with a lot of ups and downs, but it is a real highlight in this journey to be recognized by the industry in this fashion. It's not just for ourselves, but also for Barbaro. He's been the one taking us on this journey."
Commenting on the New Bolton Center, Jackson said: "They have been remarkable throughout the whole process. Dean Richardson has done a wonderful job in explaining Barbaro's condition to the general public in layman's terms. Barbaro has brought them to the forefront, but they've been able to do remarkable things through combined research between the medical school and the vet school. They are leaders in their field."

I suspect there will be at least one more Eclipse Award for the Barbaro team.
Thanks, Alex

Pippin

Jan. 16, 2007, 03:04 PM

can you direct me to the link 'prosthetics with horses' would love to read it and don't really want to view this WHOLE thread..

thanks.. P~

VirginiaBred

Jan. 16, 2007, 03:07 PM

can you direct me to the link 'prosthetics with horses' would love to read it and don't really want to view this WHOLE thread..

thanks.. P~

It was just on the preceeding page.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030627/nt1.jpg

and

http://www.handicappedpets.com/gallery/gideon9/

baywithchrome2

Jan. 16, 2007, 03:26 PM

Peter noted that Dean told Michael Barbaro was comfortable, he had a good night, he was lying down a lot, and when he gets up, if he wants he walks over to the sling. Basically two good reports on my voice mail!

Does this mean Barbaro asks to use the sling? If so, is this normal or are we dealing with super patient? I mean, we are dealing with super patient, obviously, but is Barbaro so smart that he knows the sling is a good thing for him and asks his people to help him in and out of it?

Either way, this horse impresses me so. I hope he one day does get to be a daddy. It will be interesting to see if they get Dad's heart, courage, brains and smashing good looks :winkgrin:.

holmes

Jan. 16, 2007, 03:31 PM

Horses are lazy - I know many who would rather be in a sling than actually have to hold themselves up.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 16, 2007, 03:37 PM

I, too thought it was amazing. He is SO smart!!!

VirginiaBred

Jan. 16, 2007, 05:02 PM

http://www.vet.upenn.edu/newsandevents/news/Barbaro_Update1-16.htm

Barbaro stable and comfortable following setback

January 16, 2007
KENNETT SQUARE, PA — Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro is stable and comfortable following the latest setback. “Barbaro’s comfort improved considerably following the procedure on Saturday morning,” said Dr. Dean W. Richardson, Chief of Surgery. “He has been standing and moving around his stall well enough that sling support has not been added since. His appetite has improved and his vital signs are stable. Overall, we are pleased with his progress following the setback to his left hind foot.”

Barbaro remains in the Intensive Care Unit of Penn’s George D. Widener Hospital at New Bolton Center.

The next update will be posted on Thursday, January 18, unless there is a significant change in Barbaro’s condition.

merrygoround

Jan. 16, 2007, 05:47 PM

Kenike

Jan. 16, 2007, 06:09 PM

Glad to know I'm not the only one who read it as Barbaro asking to use the sling! What an incredible beastie...man-oh-man.

I take it as a VERY positive sign that we'll not be getting another update until Thursday. So wonderful! Geesh, it's been tough waiting to be this relieved!

Texarkana

Jan. 16, 2007, 06:20 PM

Horses are lazy - I know many who would rather be in a sling than actually have to hold themselves up.

Well then they've obviously never been in a sling! :lol:

The sling is rough on horses, and I mean rough. Barbaro tolerates it EXTREMELY well... and he's intelligent enough to learn how to use it correct. Horses have to learn to "sit" in the sling for it to be of any benefit to them... they don't just hang there! (forget everything you saw in "Dreamer" haha!) Plus he's smart enough to lay down when he's not in it, so he gets adequate time out of it to recover. Barbaro's had quite a few neighbors using a sling as well, and, er, none of them are here to tell their tale, if you know what I mean...:(

In all my time at NBC, Barbaro is one of only a handful (and a small handful, at that) of horses I encountered that spent extensive time in a sling and walked out of the hospital. And he hasn't been discharged yet...

The reason I'm sharing all this is only to enlighten everyone on how truly resourceful and determined the big man really is!

monstrpony

Jan. 16, 2007, 07:30 PM

I believe when Barbaro was using the sling back in July there were comments that he would indicate when he wanted the extra support. Look back at the updates from that time period and I'm sure you'll see comments about it.

I'm EBO

Jan. 16, 2007, 07:59 PM

I remember the same sling situation as monsterpony. He would let them know, somehow, when he wanted his sling.

I'm sure you've all noticed how a horse will look at the thing he wants, so maybe that's how he told his attendants. Or sometimes, I swear that my own horses are using some equine version of the Vulcan Mind Meld (they're all trekkies) to clue me about something they want, or that I've failed to do.

Barbaro Cultist

VirginiaBred

Jan. 16, 2007, 08:18 PM

Thanks Alex~
Update 1338: Dr. Kathy Anderson visited Barbaro late this afternoon. She was visiting during Mrs. Jackson's second visit for the day. Barbaro was eating his grass during the visit. Kathy said Barbaro was bright-eyed and appeared comfortable. She was happy. The last time she visited was saturday after his procedure when he appeared "tired" (update 1324), she noticed improvement during today's visit.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 16, 2007, 08:18 PM

Barbaro Cultist

LOVES IT!!! :cool:

2ndyrgal

Jan. 16, 2007, 09:16 PM

Glad to hear all the good news. My neighbor went down to Rood and Riddle today to pick up her horse. Unfortunately I missed my chance to go with her and meet Dr. Morrison, but she does feel special to have someone so important working on her horse (he too has laminitis, treatment ongoing). She says he is super smart, and very modest and her horse loves him.

holmes

Jan. 16, 2007, 10:12 PM

Texarkana - my comment was not serious but that you for your insight. I have yet to see a horse in a sling.

Fancy

Jan. 17, 2007, 04:02 AM

Does this mean Barbaro asks to use the sling? If so, is this normal or are we dealing with super patient? I mean, we are dealing with super patient, obviously, but is Barbaro so smart that he knows the sling is a good thing for him and asks his people to help him in and out of it?

Either way, this horse impresses me so. I hope he one day does get to be a daddy. It will be interesting to see if they get Dad's heart, courage, brains and smashing good looks :winkgrin:.

He ASKS to use the sling. He started asking for it when he first got laminitis. Apparently he walks over to it to indicate that he needs some help standing. I thought that was amazing. That's when he learned to "boing" while in it. He bounced like a little kid in a jumper. Nobody said anything about bouncing this time. Although, I don't think he's used it a lot this time. It's just there if he wants it.

Smart? Probably TOO smart. :lol: I have to wonder how many horses are equally smart and just not allowed to express it. That is a very sad thought.

And thanks, VB, for all your hard work. You are a very faithful person. Of course, Bobby is doing all the hard work. What a guy!

Equus34

Jan. 17, 2007, 07:02 AM

I don't think people give horses enough credit for being smart:no:
They are very intelegent animals:yes: It's people that have to learn how to understand what their horses are telling them. Like top horseman and trainer Tom Dorrence once said "I wish I could put an ounce of human into a horse and a gallon of horse into a human". boy what a wonderful world that would be.

Any way you go Barbaro.... :winkgrin:

hitchinmygetalong

Jan. 17, 2007, 09:01 AM

Sorry if this is old news, but it has been announced that "Team Barbaro" will receive a special Eclipse Award.

eggbutt

Jan. 17, 2007, 09:42 AM

Thank you VB!

Here's a link to an interesting and, from my perspective unbiased and well written piece on the public's adoration of Barbaro and what the writer suspects is the inevitable:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16658501/

I am hopeful and prayerful that B's courage will sustain him and his caretaker's skill and care will prevail in helping him continue his recovery.

This morning I learned of a friend's hard decision to let her horse go after suffering the dreaded laminitis long enough. With no reasonable options left she will let him go this week. These decisions are so hard and so personal....I absolutely refuse to begin second guessing the Jackson's or anyone else involved with Barbaro's daily care and needs, nor will I begin to doubt my belief in miracles.

caffeinated

Jan. 17, 2007, 09:44 AM

I don't think people give horses enough credit for being smart:no:

This horse in particular. *grin* I've said it so often that people think I'm crazy, but in just a few hours of observation I walked away thinking Barbaro was probably the most eerily intelligent and professional horse I've ever seen.

:)

VirginiaBred

Jan. 17, 2007, 09:59 AM

Wednesday Morning ~

The Barbaro update will be later today.

War Admiral

Jan. 17, 2007, 10:06 AM

This horse in particular. *grin* I've said it so often that people think I'm crazy, but in just a few hours of observation I walked away thinking Barbaro was probably the most eerily intelligent and professional horse I've ever seen.
:)

Coming from the owner of a similarly bred (albeit much older!) TB, HECK YES, it's completely consistent with the horse's personality to ask for (if not DEMAND) what he wants/needs. These guys are preternaturally bright. I think most of y'all know the story about Avery jumping out of his pasture, unlatching the back barn door, turning the ceiling fans on, opening a nice clean stall, going in, CLOSING the stall door, and lying down for a nap under the ceiling fans! :)

When Avery was in hydrotherapy he used to nearly DRAG me to the swimming pool. He also throws his halter at you when he wants to go out and thinks you're dawdling. Back when we were messing with therapeutic shoeing, if the new shoes were making him uncomfortable, Avery would simply lie down in his stall and use his back toes to wiggle the shoes off his fronts. :D

I've got one vet who, when not sure what approach to try next with Avery's RF, will more than semi-seriously ask me "What does Avery think?' He always says it laughing, and admits he'd never ask that question to ANY other client, but we've all learned over the years to take Avery's opinions very seriously indeed.

So yeah, Barbaro asking for the sling doesn't surprise me one bit. That's what these guys are like. :yes:

Hang in there, Barbaro.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 17, 2007, 10:09 AM

Sorry if this is old news, but it has been announced that "Team Barbaro" will receive a special Eclipse Award.

You mean this? It has been posted, but definitely worth another mention! :yes:
It is wonderful!!!

www.bloodhorse.com (http://www.bloodhorse.com)
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37106

Jacksons, New Bolton to Receive Special Eclipse Award

hitchinmygetalong

Jan. 17, 2007, 10:59 AM

You mean this? It has been posted, but definitely worth another mention! :yes:
It is wonderful!!!

www.bloodhorse.com (http://www.bloodhorse.com)
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37106

Jacksons, New Bolton to Receive Special Eclipse Award

I believe it was "officially announced" today. But I could have missed something earlier. It was on the front page of the Thoroughbred Daily News today.

baywithchrome2

Jan. 17, 2007, 11:47 AM

I don't think people give horses enough credit for being smart:no:
They are very intelegent animals:yes:

I believe one of factors that make animals so smart is that they are keenly aware of their body... what is wrong, what it needs and when it needs it. In this case, it seems as if Barbaro has made the mental link between his body, his caretakers and survival. Go Bobby! :)

Off to light another candle for the big guy.

baywithchrome2

Jan. 17, 2007, 12:13 PM

Barbaro is "down to" 5,600 candles and it looks like quite a few are going to burn out shortly.

ivy62

Jan. 17, 2007, 12:18 PM

okay guys I just lit 12 candles but it looked like 30 or so went out...keep it up for the Big guy! He needs our support......

Jessi P

Jan. 17, 2007, 01:03 PM

5,763 now. :)

VirginiaBred

Jan. 17, 2007, 02:29 PM

Thanks Alex~
Update 1341: Peter Brette just called. Another comfortable night for Barbaro last night. He had heard from Michael, who had received a call from Dr. Richardson.
update 2:20 pm, wednesday, january 17

VirginiaBred

Jan. 17, 2007, 04:04 PM

Thanks Alex~
Update 1342: Mrs. Jackson just called and confirmed that Barbaro was comfortable. She visited Barbaro this morning. Barbaro was laying down when she arrived. Barbaro heard Mrs. Jackson and was straight to his feet. He "inhaled" the grass Mrs. Jackson brought with her. Mrs. Jackson also noted he is now bearing more weight on his left hind, clearly expressing more comfort doing so.

ivy62

Jan. 17, 2007, 05:55 PM

I want to know if Mrs. Jackson has a greenhouse full of grass? I live in downstate NY and we do not have any..can I import some for my horse? Glad to know he is comfy today....Wish we knew more about his treatment, it could make for very interesting reading....

Lighting candles and jingling in NY!

holmes

Jan. 17, 2007, 06:21 PM

They have a 198 acre farm and I am certain the staff have been instructed to keep growing grass for Barbaro at any cost!!

Claddagh

Jan. 17, 2007, 06:58 PM

Coming from the owner of a similarly bred (albeit much older!) TB, HECK YES, it's completely consistent with the horse's personality to ask for (if not DEMAND) what he wants/needs. These guys are preternaturally bright. I think most of y'all know the story about Avery jumping out of his pasture, unlatching the back barn door, turning the ceiling fans on, opening a nice clean stall, going in, CLOSING the stall door, and lying down for a nap under the ceiling fans! :)

When Avery was in hydrotherapy he used to nearly DRAG me to the swimming pool. He also throws his halter at you when he wants to go out and thinks you're dawdling. Back when we were messing with therapeutic shoeing, if the new shoes were making him uncomfortable, Avery would simply lie down in his stall and use his back toes to wiggle the shoes off his fronts. :D

I've got one vet who, when not sure what approach to try next with Avery's RF, will more than semi-seriously ask me "What does Avery think?' He always says it laughing, and admits he'd never ask that question to ANY other client, but we've all learned over the years to take Avery's opinions very seriously indeed.

So yeah, Barbaro asking for the sling doesn't surprise me one bit. That's what these guys are like. :yes:

Hang in there, Barbaro.

War Admiral those stories are priceless! :lol: You should seriously think about writing a book. :yes: I know that I for one, would love to hear more stories like these. :yes: What a character Avery must be - please tell us more. I think a book about his life and antics would be a huge success - everyone loves a good story and everyone loves horses (even non-horsey people). And the escapades of a highly intelligent, almost "human" horse - well, that's what I would call a really fun book. ;)

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Horses with so much natural intelligence are amazing.
Barbaro's intelligence shines through in every phase of his recovery. He seems to know what he needs, what is good for him, and what he needs to do to help himself heal. He is one in a million!

Off to light more candles - (they're getting low).

msj

Jan. 17, 2007, 07:43 PM

Candles down to 5227 at 7:40 PM Wednesday. :(
I generally check in about 3 X/day and light about 5 each time.

I agree that War Admiral needs to write more about Avery. :yes:

I've wondered also how Mrs. Jackson is still getting green grass. I know my boys would kill for green grass right about now! What's there is under a couple of inches of snow and 1/2 inch of ice!!!

VirginiaBred

Jan. 17, 2007, 08:12 PM

Thanks Alex~
Update 1344: I just spoke to Tom, the Jackson's farm manager. He visited Barbaro this afternoon and gave him a good grooming. He was also positive in his assessment of Barbaro, and fed him a pear.
Rachel, from Kennett Florist, left this comment (timestamp: 8:34 pm):

Things seem well with Big Boss. NBC called this morning to let us know he needed apples and pears... we love to hear his appitite is strong! So we loaded him up with crisp apples and pears along with some other of his favorites and some treats for the staff... Happy staff, Happy horse!
On a side note, while I was at the doctor yesterday, the nurse noticed my Barbaro wristband and asked how I got involved... it made the time pass quite nicely; having to sit for 3 hours for an iron infusion... talking about my favorite subject (next to my 4 year old ofcourse)... Barbaro and the family he has created.
Thank you all! Our love to our FOB family, the Jackson's, NBC and Alex!
WE BELIEVE!!!
Rach at KF

Slewdledo

Jan. 17, 2007, 09:26 PM

DListed's hot slut of the day.

http://dlisted.com/2007/01/17/hot-slut-of-the-day-86/#comments

War Admiral

Jan. 17, 2007, 09:34 PM

I agree that War Admiral needs to write more about Avery. :yes:

I've wondered also how Mrs. Jackson is still getting green grass. I know my boys would kill for green grass right about now! What's there is under a couple of inches of snow and 1/2 inch of ice!!!

Aww thanks y'all! But didn't mean to de-rail the thread... Just trying to give you an idea of how bright these guys REALLY are.

I too would have to assume they've got a greenhouse growing it. For the record, we *are* getting some new green stuff coming up already here in GA, but it wouldn't be enough to feed a horse yet....

gubbyz

Jan. 17, 2007, 10:32 PM

So what is up with that hot slut of the day sight? It's quite stupid and disgusting. Does not belong on this thread.

cartera45

Jan. 17, 2007, 10:39 PM

War Admiral those stories are priceless! :lol: You should seriously think about writing a book. :yes: I know that I for one, would love to hear more stories like these. :yes: What a character Avery must be - please tell us more. I think a book about his life and antics would be a huge success - everyone loves a good story and everyone loves horses (even non-horsey people). And the escapades of a highly intelligent, almost "human" horse - well, that's what I would call a really fun book. ;)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Horses with so much natural intelligence are amazing.
Barbaro's intelligence shines through in every phase of his recovery. He seems to know what he needs, what is good for him, and what he needs to do to help himself heal. He is one in a million!

Off to light more candles - (they're getting low).

Perhaps Hollywood is ready for an animated horse movie called "Avery!" War Admiral - who would be Avery's voice?

HobbyHorseLabradors

Jan. 18, 2007, 02:04 AM

Coming from the owner of a similarly bred (albeit much older!) TB, HECK YES, it's completely consistent with the horse's personality to ask for (if not DEMAND) what he wants/needs. These guys are preternaturally bright. I think most of y'all know the story about Avery jumping out of his pasture, unlatching the back barn door, turning the ceiling fans on, opening a nice clean stall, going in, CLOSING the stall door, and lying down for a nap under the ceiling fans! :)

When Avery was in hydrotherapy he used to nearly DRAG me to the swimming pool. He also throws his halter at you when he wants to go out and thinks you're dawdling. Back when we were messing with therapeutic shoeing, if the new shoes were making him uncomfortable, Avery would simply lie down in his stall and use his back toes to wiggle the shoes off his fronts. :D

I've got one vet who, when not sure what approach to try next with Avery's RF, will more than semi-seriously ask me "What does Avery think?' He always says it laughing, and admits he'd never ask that question to ANY other client, but we've all learned over the years to take Avery's opinions very seriously indeed.

So yeah, Barbaro asking for the sling doesn't surprise me one bit. That's what these guys are like. :yes:

Hang in there, Barbaro.

Here in our barn, we have CANTER cutie "Poker Game" who came in as a foster originally but I think we are going to have to make it 'official' because I just adore this guy. Anyway, "Vegas" had knee chip surgery amongst several other small problems which included white line disease and an abscess.
War Admiral's post made me remember how smart my guy was when I was soaking his front foot in epsom salts. He shuffled around until he made room in the tub for both front feet, then he stood as still as a statue. Smart? You bet! He has been the best patient all throughout his surgery and recovery and is one of the quietest and smartest horses I have met.
I've always thought that he looked like Barbaro. Same color bay (although Vegas has some roaning) and a very similar star on his forehead!
Well, I looked up pedigrees to compare the 2 and it seems they have a few recent common ancestors too! Brains and class must run in the family! :winkgrin:

Equus34

Jan. 18, 2007, 07:26 AM

Hi gang, well I just saw Barbaro on our local evening news last night. They were taking him for a little hand walking exercise. It just broke my heart to watch him step with that right hind, but his eyes looked bright and his ears were pricked and he seemed very proud indeed to be out and about. :yes:

Grow hoof grow.....

VirginiaBred

Jan. 18, 2007, 07:56 AM

Thursday Morning ~

Thanks, Alex
Update 1345: This we have been waiting for: Slaughter Bill Introduced in House, Senate (http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37118). It includes the following excerpt:

"The time has come to put an end to the practice of slaughtering horses in America," said Ensign, one of two veterinarians in Congress. "Horses have an important role in the history of our country, particularly the West, and they deserve our protection. As a senator and a veterinarian, I am committed to doing what I can for these magnificent animals."

The Daily Racing Form ran two stories, on two trainers, at very different stages of their careers: Pete Vestal (http://drf.com/news/article/81912.html) and Larry Jones (http://drf.com/news/article/81923.html). I think reading both articles allows us to better understand how hard it really is to compete as a successful racehorse trainer in the modern era of mega stables, first started by D. Wayne Lucas who himself appears to be on a pretty major downswing as far as I can tell.

New Bolton is planning a Barbaro update for today.

(As an aside, Team Barbaro has been extremely instrumental in pushing the anti horse slaughter issue in the House & Senate.)

eggbutt

Jan. 18, 2007, 08:55 AM

(As an aside, Team Barbaro has been extremely instrumental in pushing the anti horse slaughter issue in the House & Senate.)

He-he-he-he-he! Our little CULT is becoming powerful! :yes: :yes: :yes:

Jessi P

Jan. 18, 2007, 09:07 AM

He-he-he-he-he! Our little CULT is becoming powerful! :yes: :yes: :yes:

OOOOOOOOO I always wanted to belong to a cult...:D :D

War Admiral

Jan. 18, 2007, 10:48 AM

Great news about the slaughter bill. Well done Team Barbaro!! :yes:

VirginiaBred

Jan. 18, 2007, 11:01 AM

Thanks, Alex.
Update 1346: Another comfortable night last night for Barbaro (wednesday night). Mrs. Jackson just called with the news. She visited briefly this morning, but Barbaro was sleeping. She will of course be visiting again later today as is usual.
update 10:55 am, thursday, january 18

msj

Jan. 18, 2007, 11:32 AM

So what is up with that hot slut of the day sight? It's quite stupid and disgusting. Does not belong on this thread.

gubbyz - scroll up a little at that website and see the picture. It's Barbaro! :) :D

I kinda thought the same thing until I scrolled up and saw Bobby! :D

ivy62

Jan. 18, 2007, 11:54 AM

I thought cults went out in the 60's when I was a kid. So I missed the opportunity, I was simply too young, and now I belong to the best one of all!!!!!!!! YEAH!
Glad to hear he's comfy...Also, War Admiral, My horse is the barn clown and some of the antics sound very familiar!!!! gotta love 'em.....

Go Bobby Go!

VirginiaBred

Jan. 18, 2007, 02:41 PM

New Bolton's Thursday Update~

Update 1348: Update today from New Bolton: Barbaro continues to gradually improve (http://www.vet.upenn.edu/newsandevents/news/Barbaro_Update1-18.htm):

Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro continues to gradually improve. "Barbaro's comfort level is improving steadily, and we are gradually tapering off his pain medication," said Dr. Dean W. Richardson, Chief of Surgery. "His vital signs are stable, and his appetite is good."
Barbaro remains in the Intensive Care Unit of Penn's George D. Widener Hospital at New Bolton Center.
The next update will be posted on Wednesday, January 24, unless there is a significant change in Barbaro's condition.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 18, 2007, 04:46 PM

From Kennett Florist ~

Afternoon all!
It's been flurrying here on and off... it's a good day to snuggle down in the hay and have sweet dreams of green pastures. Baskets of carrots, apples, pears and staff goodies delivered today. The Big Boss has been wanting pears and apples.
Regardless of what you hear,
ALL is WELL at NBC!
WE BELIEVE!!
Rach at KF

VirginiaBred

Jan. 18, 2007, 06:36 PM

Update 1349: I just spoke to Tom, who visited Barbaro this afternoon. He (Tom) groomed him (Barbaro) and was positive in his report. Barbaro finished up his feed while Tom was grooming him, and Tom also fed him some carrots and apples.
Thanks, Alex.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 19, 2007, 07:55 AM

Friday Morning ~

Thaks Alex~
Update 1350: The Eclipse awards are monday: Barbaro in mix for top award (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/horses/2007-01-18-barbaro-eclipse-awards_x.htm?POE=SPOISVA). The Barbaro team has already won one award, and we also know the story has generated two media awards (Mike Jensen and Dick Jerardi). I predict there will be two more awards for the Barbaro team on the night. The article does provide the outcome of a poll for moment of the year:

As further proof of just how much Barbaro has captivated the American public, the top-three vote-getters for the 2006 NTRA Moment of the Year were all Barbaro-related.
His recovery received 29% of the voting at ntra.com, the NTRA's website. Barbaro's Kentucky Derby victory, by the biggest margin in nearly 60 years, was second with 27%, and the Preakness Stakes, in which Bernardini ran to an impressive victory after Barbaro's injury, was third with 22%.

I am told there will be a story on Barbaro today on NPR on their Day-to-Day program (http://www.npr.org/templates/stations/schedule/index.php?prgId=17&showNav=1). At least one Fan of Barbaro was interviewed for this story.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 19, 2007, 02:32 PM

Thanks, Alex ~
Update 1352: Another comfortable night last night (thursday night) for Barbaro. Mrs. Jackson just called (1:20 pm) as she was leaving from visiting Barbaro. She brought his grass which he ate! update 1:25 pm, friday, january 19

VirginiaBred

Jan. 19, 2007, 04:01 PM

Per Alex ~
Update 1353: Here is the NPR story that ran this afternoon on Day to Day: Loving Barbaro: A Racehorse and His Fans (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6905613). Very cool story. This site is mentioned, Mike Rea (http://mikerea.blogspot.com/) was almost mentioned directly! I also wanted to note that this site has now received approximately 100,000 comments since May. The discussion boards (http://forums.delphiforums.com/timwoolley/messages/) have eclipsed 60,000 messages! True testament that Barbaro continues to be moment of the year (http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37154).

VirginiaBred

Jan. 19, 2007, 07:25 PM

Thanks Alex:
Update 1354: I just spoke to Tom, who visited Barbaro this afternoon and gave him a good grooming. Tom was upbeat in his assessment of Barbaro.

Kenike

Jan. 19, 2007, 08:06 PM

Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful!! Thanks, VB (and Alex, and everyone!)

VirginiaBred

Jan. 20, 2007, 08:31 AM

Saturday Morning~

The Barbaro update will be later today.

Gunnar

Jan. 20, 2007, 01:24 PM

Go Bobby Go!

Always good to hear he is feeling good!

Thanks to VB and Alex!

VirginiaBred

Jan. 20, 2007, 01:25 PM

Thanks, Alex
Update 1356: Another comfortable night last night for Barbaro (friday night). Mrs. Jackson just called (noon) after her morning visit.

Minuet

Jan. 20, 2007, 01:56 PM

Update 1353: Here is the NPR story that ran this afternoon on Day to Day: Loving Barbaro: A Racehorse and His Fans (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6905613). Very cool story. This site is mentioned, Mike Rea (http://mikerea.blogspot.com/) was almost mentioned directly

I heard this yesterday, and it was very well done. The piece was as much about his supporters as Barbaro himself. Glad I caught it.

flshgordon

Jan. 20, 2007, 02:32 PM

I heard this yesterday, and it was very well done. The piece was as much about his supporters as Barbaro himself. Glad I caught it.

I checked out this article and was redirected to YouTube and saw a clip (one of hundreds) that I had never seen before. http://youtube.com/watch?v=kmgf-ocQFbc

I knew the horse was undefeated but I had no idea how handily he had won all of his previous races except for one. This video showed every one of his races and I have to say I was completely blown away by the ease he seemed to win. I agree that perhaps the Kentucky Derby alone may not make him horse of the year but combined with all the other factors including this practially "untouchable" quality he seemed to have, it seems like he should have very few challengers in this category.

Again...just WOW

VirginiaBred

Jan. 20, 2007, 05:05 PM

Update 1358: Just spoke to Tom, who visited Barbaro this afternoon and gave him a good grooming. Barbaro remains comfortable. I had dinner with Tom and his wife last night. Not only did I get well fed, I listened to some classic race stories ... and learned that Tom's dad rode Assault to his Triple Crown triumphs! Thanks, Alex.

nevertoolate

Jan. 20, 2007, 06:05 PM

FWIW, a commentary in the Baltimore Sun asking if the fascination of Barbaro has gone too far. Saw the reference on the front page today, and had to buy the paper!

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/horseracing/bal-sp.maese20jan20,0,7601297.column?page=1&coll=bal-sports-headlines

I'm EBO

Jan. 20, 2007, 07:27 PM

merrygoround

Jan. 20, 2007, 08:35 PM

Can I say, "Maese is an ass" on this board? Or suggest that he has unmet needs? Or that his mother liked her horse better (with good reason)?

Oh well, maybe Baltimore will soon have cage fighting (if it's not big there already), and he can worship the "real" sports heroes.

I'm offended.

You may!!:D :D :D You must also realize that he's young-as in wet behind the ears. He also probably didn't have anything worthwhile to write about so he thought he'd poke a stick n a hornet's nest. Child !:yes:

Cage fighting, cock fighting and dog fighting are all pretty active there.

msj

Jan. 20, 2007, 08:56 PM

Can I say, "Maese is an ass" on this board? Or suggest that he has unmet needs? Or that his mother liked her horse better (with good reason)?

Oh well, maybe Baltimore will soon have cage fighting (if it's not big there already), and he can worship the "real" sports heroes.

I'm offended.

Yep, you can say "Maese is an ass" BUT you are insulting all asses!!!!:D :D

I read his article and had a good laugh, actually several good laughs, but then I'm one of those 'cultists' and FOB's (Friends of Bobby) and candle lighters. Too bad he didn't see the candles earlier when they were over 14,000. :eek: I was going to cut and paste some of his wilder statements but decided he wasn't worth the effort. And I'm proud to say that I'm NOT one of those middle-aged housewives either!!!! :lol:

Lori T

Jan. 20, 2007, 09:13 PM

Great news! Thanks for the updates, as always they are much appreciated!

merrygoround

Jan. 20, 2007, 09:56 PM

msj I'm way ahead of middle aged, and a poor excuse for a housewife.

Let's ignore him.

Right on for the Barbaro Cult!!!

flshgordon

Jan. 20, 2007, 10:27 PM

Somehow I think "Incredible jackass" doesn't even cover it. Someone needs to do something more interesting for him to write about because he's obviously out of ideas:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

gubbyz

Jan. 20, 2007, 10:53 PM

This is how I see it... Horses in sport do not bitch about salaries, do not mock their competition, do not go on strike, they happily stand for the fans to take pics, and run or jump their hearts out without complaining. All this for perhaps a treat or a pat on the neck afterwards. They don't leap into the stands and pound on the fans because one expressed thier "feelings". So to understand the passion we as true animal and sports lovers share, one has to be slightly above the others, which I feel the majority of all Barbaro fans are. Human sports figures could learn alot from these "true" athletes.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 20, 2007, 11:06 PM

msj

Jan. 21, 2007, 09:53 AM

msj I'm way ahead of middle aged, and a poor excuse for a housewife.

Let's ignore him.

Right on for the Barbaro Cult!!!

merrygoround - I'm well past middle aged myself - try senior citizen and I get to start collecting social security this fall!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

VirginiaBred

Jan. 21, 2007, 06:20 PM

Sunday's update ~ Just the kind I like best, short and sweet! Thanks, Alex:
Update 1360: Barbaro remains comfortable. Tom visited for about an hour this afternoon (sunday afternoon).

msj

Jan. 21, 2007, 08:06 PM

VB, we haven't seen that Barbaro is being taken for any walks lately. Can you find out from Alex if his walks have been canceled due to the last setback?

Thanks and again and again many, many, many thanks for all you are doing to keep us updated. :) :) :) :)

2ndyrgal

Jan. 21, 2007, 10:58 PM

I sent him an email in which I actually refrained from calling him a d**k. I'm not sure if I was more upset that he thinks we are all Oprahwatchinghousewives, or that we all just have nothing better to do. Having a fantasy team full of thugs makes so much more sense than lighting a candle.
Glad the big horse is doing well, keep the updates coming,

Madeline

Jan. 22, 2007, 12:04 AM

caffeinated

Jan. 22, 2007, 07:51 AM

Apparently I didn't read the same article everyone else did... Notice at the end how he extended his topic to cover almost all sports fans? The ones that say "we won" instead of "my team won" and wear jerseys and gush on and on about football players as if they "know" them?

It's all the same phenomenon, really.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 22, 2007, 08:15 AM

Thanks, Alex:
Monday Morning ~
Update 1362: Tonight are the Eclipse Awards, held in Los Angeles, televised by TVG. We know the Barbaro team will get one award, lets hope for a couple more. Another Dynaformer is a certainty for the Steeplechase award: McDynamo set to eclipse field (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/16507611.htm). This will be his third Eclipse award. Fair Hill has a few connections to the Steeplechase community. Currently four ex-champion jump jockeys ply their trade at Fair Hill, two as trainers, two as exercise riders. I wonder if anyone can name the four ?

I am assuming the Barbaro update will be late today, after Tom's visit this afternoon. Off to Fair Hill.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 22, 2007, 02:34 PM

As a quick reminder, the Barbaro update will be late today, after Tom's visit most likely. Here is an article on tonight's Eclipse awards: Barbaro's story still drawing wide audience (http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/sports/horse_racing/16510731.htm?source=rss&channel=kentucky_horse_racing)... and Barbaro's broad appeal. The two stories below the main story are also of interest. Thanks, Alex.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 22, 2007, 05:44 PM

Thanks, Alex~
Update 1365: Tom visited Barbaro this afternoon and gave him a good grooming. He reported that Barbaro was comfortable "and his normal self".

Kenike

Jan. 22, 2007, 07:42 PM

wow, I had no idea there was a beanie baby of him! Guess what I've bid for on Ebay now...

Love hearing he's still doing alright...makes me happy

VirginiaBred

Jan. 22, 2007, 08:58 PM

Optimistic words on Barbaro
By JAY PRIVMAN
BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. - Dr. Dean Richardson, in Beverly Hills to share in racing's Eclipse Awards, said on Monday that Barbaro is being weaned from pain medication and is becoming more comfortable on his laminitic left hind foot, two weeks after suffering a setback.
"He has steadily improved," said Richardson, who has treated Barbaro at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center since the colt's catastrophic injuries in the Preakness Stakes eight months ago. "He's eating great. He hasn't been in a sling in over a week. The fact that he bounced back, and quickly, is very encouraging. It's still disappointing that he had a setback, but these types of things are not unexpected."
Richardson made his comments before being presented by the Turf Publicists of America with the group's Big Sport of Turfdom Award, which recognizes individuals for their assistance with the media. Barbaro's owners, Roy and Gretchen Jackson, and the New Bolton Center were to be presented with a special Eclipse Award Monday night for their attempts to save Barbaro.
The fractures Barbaro suffered initially in his right rear leg have mended, but the laminitis he developed in his left rear has proved more troublesome. A cast that was placed on that foot following surgery 10 days ago has yet to be removed, so Richardson said he has yet to ascertain how well the foot is healing. However, Richardson said, Barbaro "stands on it," whereas when he had his setback two weeks ago, "he wouldn't put it down."
"We've been able to decrease his pain medication," Richardson said. "He's not sedated. It's to address his hind foot."
Richardson said that if and when Barbaro is relocated to Kentucky, his care would be handed off, most likely, to Dr. Scott Morrison of Rood and Riddle Equine Clinic.
"But this was a significant setback, so I don't think he'll leave for at least a month, and it could easily be longer," Richardson said.
"He's a smart, enduring, tough kind of horse," Richardson said. "I think this shows that a lot of horses can behave like this if given the opportunity. Most horses who make it this long go home. I'm hoping he's one of those.
"It's awkward getting an award like this because we're not done. We haven't finished the job. Trying to reconcile that, I hope the award is for the effort that has been made, and for the ongoing effort. I hope something good comes out of this. I'm just a small part of this. Barbaro is the biggest part."

VirginiaBred

Jan. 23, 2007, 07:44 AM

Tuesday Morning ~
Thanks, Alex
Update 1366: I will have more links and reports from last night's Eclipse awards later today. Here is my quick assessment of what occured. I feared Barbaro would not get 3yo or HOTY given the feedback I had heard from a few who I knew were voting, or knew people who were voting. I am still convinced he ran the single best race of the year, he prooved himself on different surfaces and he was only going to improve. Nevertheless, last year's crop of 3yos was simply outstanding and there appears a bias towards horses that compete for the entire year. I was a little more encouraged however before the awards began, both Gary Stevens and Frank Lyons (?) made solid cases for Barbaro, that was good enough for me! They also made good cases as to why they should vote, which they don't.
Also before the awards got started they did a short interview with the Jackson's ... very cool. After the interview the presenters followed up with a mention of an article which highlighted Mrs. Jackson's love for Barbaro, and quoted the end of the article. This led them to essentially admit that racing is all wrong when if it does not take a stand on anti horse slaughter. I thought that was good, and pretty bold. It would be good if TVG would follow up on this.
It was great to see team Barbaro get their award, Edgar get his award and the Jackson's a joint winner as owner of the year. I thought the Jackson's would win at least one of the owner / breeder awards. As owners they campaigned two of the top five three year olds and as breeders they bred Barbaro and George Washington, pretty amazing.
Anyway, Bloodhorse (http://bloodhorse.com/) has a full run down of all the awards. Later today I will compile some of the more interesting links. Congratulations to Invasor ...

sporthorsefilly

Jan. 23, 2007, 10:30 AM

Barbaro earned and deserved the 3 yr old eclipse, not Bernardini. He never showed a tenth of what Barbaro showed.

Yes, I agree Invasor deserved HOY.

The Jacksons deserved to be breeder of the year. I am thankful that an Eclipse was given to Team Barbaro, they more than deserved everyone's praise.

Madeline

Jan. 23, 2007, 12:53 PM

Currently four ex-champion jump jockeys ply their trade at Fair Hill, two as trainers, two as exercise riders. I wonder if anyone can name the four ?

I'm seeing trainers Ricky Hendriks, Chuck Lawrence, Dr. John Fisher, Barclay Tagg and Gene Weymouth, all with strong steeplechase connections.

Don't know the exercise riders.

flshgordon

Jan. 23, 2007, 01:14 PM

VirginiaBred

Jan. 23, 2007, 02:28 PM

Thanks Alex
Update 1368: As I slowly go through the media coverage of last night's Eclipse awards I wanted to first highlight these two perspectives: Barbaro eclipses all others (http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/16523254.htm) and Eclipse impressions (http://forums.delphiforums.com/timwoolley/messages?msg=4043). The latter being my favourite thus far.
Not much Eclipse chatter this morning. A few people asked me what Barbaro won. Mostly the awards are on too late in the evening for us to pay much notice.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 23, 2007, 04:01 PM

A cool article in the LA Times: They gave Barbaro the chance (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dwyre23jan23,1,6301755.column?coll=la-utilities-sports) that also notes the support Barbaro has received from everywhere!

Kenike

Jan. 23, 2007, 07:59 PM

wow...Bernardini is a nice horse, definitely, but he wasn't the one to win the 3 yr old Eclipse!

VirginiaBred

Jan. 23, 2007, 08:47 PM

Update 1371: Just spoke to Tom, who visited Barbaro today (tuesday) and gave him a good grooming. Barbaro remains comfortable, same as yesterday.
Thanks, Alex

VirginiaBred

Jan. 24, 2007, 12:48 PM

Wesnesday ~

The New Bolton update will most likely be late today.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 24, 2007, 03:17 PM

Thanks Alex
pdate 1375: Mrs. Jackson just left a voice-mail, she visited Barbaro last night and about noon time today. She reported Barbaro remains comfortable and still himself. A positive message.
update 2:35 pm, wednesday, january 24

eggbutt

Jan. 24, 2007, 03:23 PM

Great news! Thank you VB!

VirginiaBred

Jan. 24, 2007, 05:48 PM

Update 1376: New Bolton's planned update today on Barbaro is being postponed until tomorrow. This has happened before, so there is no worries re: the postponment. Thanks, Alex.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 24, 2007, 07:16 PM

So worth it's own post ~

www.bloodhorse.com (http://www.bloodhorse.com)

http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37210
Edgar Prado Eclipse Jockey of '06

Edgar Prado won plenty of races and purse money in 2006, but figures to be best remembered for something he accomplished outside the saddle.
The Peruvian native, who rode Lael Stables’ Barbaro to victory in the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (gr. I), helped Barbaro avoid a far more serious injury by jumping off and grabbing hold of the reins after the colt broke down early in the Preakness Stakes (gr. I).
Efforts like that stay in people’s minds a long time.
Prado, a member of the Barbaro team that received a Special Eclipse Award for its action surrounding the colt’s recovery, won some of racing’s biggest stakes.

Please see the above link for complete article ~ well worth the read

Kenike

Jan. 24, 2007, 07:42 PM

aww, what a great article! Edgar deserves it all :)

Still jungling and off to light some candles....

VirginiaBred

Jan. 25, 2007, 07:39 AM

Thursday ~
Thanks, Alex
Update 1377: Barbaro was the third most popular sports-related search term for 2006: MySpace No. 1 Internet search term (http://news.monstersandcritics.com/business/news/article_1251112.php/MySpace_No._1_Internet_search_term). I know when I first started following Barbaro after the Kentucky Derby I ran some google ads and could tell how popular the search term was even before the Preakness. The day after the Preakness, at one point google sent 3,000 visits to this site in one hour ... the site then crashed.
The Daily Racing Form includes the following two articles today: Court upholds Texas anti-slaughter law (http://drf.com/news/article/82079.html) and California board acts on drug rules (http://drf.com/news/article/82087.html).

VirginiaBred

Jan. 25, 2007, 11:01 AM

Thank you Alex:
The New Bolton update won't be until sometime this afternoon.

sporthorsefilly

Jan. 25, 2007, 12:13 PM

HELP Something puzzles me:

If Bernardini beat Barbaro for 3 year old, how did Barbaro finish second to Invasor for horse of the year. Where were all those "Bernardini supporters" when it came down to who was best overall?????

Barbaro IS the best, and we all know it.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 25, 2007, 03:45 PM

Thanks, Alex:
Update 1379: I just spoke to Mrs. Jackson, who visited Barbaro today (one of her two usual daily visits). Mrs. Jackson reported that Barbaro remains comfortable with a strong appetite. We had a nice long chat about the Eclipse awards and Mrs. Jackson was also happy to hear about Hawty Creek's race over the weekend. We joked that Hawty Creek needs Barbaro's appetite!

VirginiaBred

Jan. 25, 2007, 03:45 PM

lizathenag

Jan. 25, 2007, 03:52 PM

If Bernardini beat Barbaro for 3 year old, how did Barbaro finish second to Invasor for horse of the year.

Since there is no criteria (that I know of) for the Eclipse Awards, I guess people looked at racing for the 3YO and heart for the HOY.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 25, 2007, 07:43 PM

Thanks Alex~
Update 1382: Tom visited Barbaro this afternoon. Barbaro was resting, and looked comfortable. When Barbaro is resting Tom does not disturb him, but said he looked good. I also spoke to Peter Brette to get his sense of yesterday's planned procedure and abscess that was drained. He did not appear concerned about the abscess confirming the tempo of the New Bolton update overall.
Update 1381: I guess cold weather is coming in, Penn National (http://drf.com/news/article/82093.html) has already canceled tonight's card and Aqueduct (http://drf.com/news/article/82092.html) has canceled their racing for tomorrow.

For those thinking of Valentine's gifts, how about some special chocolates ? (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/entertainment/dining/16537883.htm)

Update 1380: Here is New Bolton's update: Barbaro doing well after planned procedure (http://www.vet.upenn.edu/newsandevents/news/Barbaro_Update1-25.htm):

Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro is doing well after a planned procedure yesterday. "Barbaro was placed under anesthesia yesterday to have his left hind foot cast replaced," said Dr. Dean W. Richardson, Chief of Surgery. "We also removed the cast on his right hind leg and replaced it with a custom-fabricated plastic and steel orthotic brace to give his foot additional support." An abscess near the lateral heel of his right hind foot was drained, and the brace that was applied will allow more regular treatment of that foot.
"Barbaro had another smooth pool-recovery and has been comfortable with an excellent attitude and appetite since then," said Dr. Richardson. "We will probably replace his left hind foot cast under anesthesia again at least two or three times at roughly two-week intervals if his comfort is maintained. We were very pleased with the progress of his left hind foot since the last cast was applied." In addition, new shoes were placed on both front feet for additional support.
Barbaro remains in the Intensive Care Unit of Penn's George D. Widener Hospital at New Bolton Center.

The next update will be posted on Wednesday, January 31, unless there is a significant change in Barbaro's condition.

merrygoround

Jan. 25, 2007, 08:35 PM

VirginiaBred

Jan. 25, 2007, 09:02 PM

Kenike

Jan. 26, 2007, 02:49 AM

Me too.................:no:

Me three

Texarkana

Jan. 26, 2007, 08:23 AM

I look forward to the day they can replace his casts without general anesthesia. I realize that their anesthesiologist is a dedicated (and unnamed)pro. but I would love it if he could take a vacation, :)

If *she* could take a vacation... haha.

There are a few anesthesiologists at NBC, but Kim Olson has done most (I think maybe all) of Barbaro's anesthetizing.

vineyridge

Jan. 26, 2007, 09:52 AM

I'm worried.

Praying hard that he improves and doesn't start having problems in his other feet, but I'm worried. :sadsmile:

He'll get the best of care, of course, and will be as comfortable as possible through all this, but I'm still worried.

Not being negative, but trying to realistically understand that he's far from out of the woods yet.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 26, 2007, 10:54 AM

I, too am very concerned.

The fact he had an abscess in the left hind (back in July) before the L word, has me white knuckled...................

ivy62

Jan. 26, 2007, 11:00 AM

I am very worried! My horse has feet issues and I am very sensitive to them! The break would heal but this stuff is on going......I wish they would post pics of his foot and give some insight to his treatment becasue maybe they know something that could help other horses......

Jingling and lighting candles.......

VirginiaBred

Jan. 26, 2007, 11:08 AM

Per Alex ~
Barbaro updates today may be late, I have to be in Philadelphia for a retreat and then later I am getting the opportunity to preview "First Saturday in May" (I think it is called) ... nevertheless, I will try to get access to the internet when I have updates and post, but if I don't, you know the reason.

summerhorse

Jan. 26, 2007, 01:59 PM

I, too am very concerned.

The fact he had an abscess in the left hind (back in July) before the L word, has me white knuckled...................

Actually I think he had them in the broken leg too, rubs and small abcesses fromt he cast. It's bothersome but not unusual with normal TBs. And the fact they are taking the cast off for a brace sounds promising.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 26, 2007, 03:23 PM

Update 1385: I just spoke to Peter Brette who let me know that Barbaro had a comfortable night last night (Thursday night).
updated 2:25pm Friday
Thanks, Alex.

hitchinmygetalong

Jan. 26, 2007, 03:37 PM

Does anyone know how many times he has been put under since his injury? I'm just curious.

Thank you.

I'm EBO

Jan. 26, 2007, 03:53 PM

Texarkana

Jan. 26, 2007, 05:30 PM

Does anyone know how many times he has been put under since his injury? I'm just curious.

Thank you.

I honestly can't even remember, but several of the cast changes were done with him sedated at his stall or in a recovery stall instead of being fully anesthetized. And I know at least once it was reported by Alex that he was anesthetized and he wasn't-- he was just sedated. There's quite a few "things" that you all on this board never hear about...

I can clearly recall 5 times... after that everything is just a blur, haha. It's probably a lot more.

I often think of Mrs. Jackson, and the ups and downs she must be experiencing. If this doesn't turn her hair Warhol white, she's stronger than I could ever be.

Jingles for Mrs. and Mr. Jackson.

That's really kind of you. They are seriously the greatest owners ever.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 26, 2007, 05:47 PM

Thanks, Alex ~Update 1386: I just spoke to Tom who visited Barbaro this afternoon. He gave him a good grooming and said he was comfortable.

Laurierace

Jan. 26, 2007, 06:27 PM

I worry more about the anathesia than I do about the abscesses. (Of course, when you see a horse who's developed an abscess, you think that it's The End.)

I often think of Mrs. Jackson, and the ups and downs she must be experiencing. If this doesn't turn her hair Warhol white, she's stronger than I could ever be.

Jingles for Mrs. and Mr. Jackson.

Well I can see how you might think that this could possibly mean that he might develop laminitis in that foot. I agree that would be a bad thing. In general when I find an abcess in a hoof I breathe a sigh of relief. Abcesses can be extremely painful to the point where it looks like the horse may have broken something. When you find out its "just an abcess" that is cause for celebration!

chicagogirl

Jan. 26, 2007, 07:54 PM

The Barbaro Fan Club has incredible reach - I grabbed a flier in a bar last night for a band Mythic Figs who are "Performing as Fetlock Fusion: Horsesongs for Barbaro." Let's hope all the well-wishes helps him get past this latest setback.

BTW - website of said band is www.mythicfigs.org, no idea of the quality of the music.

merrygoround

Jan. 26, 2007, 09:07 PM

If *she* could take a vacation... haha.

There are a few anesthesiologists at NBC, but Kim Olson has done most (I think maybe all) of Barbaro's anesthetizing.

Mea culpa!! :) :) What was I thinkin??

Slewdledo

Jan. 27, 2007, 01:02 PM

The latest update says that he's "less comfortable." :(

VirginiaBred

Jan. 27, 2007, 01:38 PM

Saturday, Thanks, Alex~
Update 1388: Barbaro was a little less comfortable last night. I spoke to Peter Brette briefly this morning. Again, we are reminded this is a long road. As I know more I will update of course.

Kenike

Jan. 27, 2007, 01:41 PM

oh boy....

last night I was thinking the updates were waiting to release something. By that I mean the times it was "update is that Barbaro was laying down eating," or "Barbaro seems comfortable," but nothing else. Now saying he's a little less comfy..I'm not looking forward to the next few days & updates.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 27, 2007, 07:57 PM

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/special_packages/latest/16562123.htm
Barbaro’s comfort concerns doctors

By Mike Jensen
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
For months, Barbaro's biggest medical issues have involved his left hind foot - not the right hind leg, the one that suffered catastrophic injuries in last May's Preakness Stakes.
But doctors at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center now are wrestling with issues regarding his overall comfort in both hind feet, his co-owner Gretchen Jackson said today.
"He's got a lot of issues, and not any of them is bad enough to say goodbye. But put together it's not a good day for Barbaro," Jackson said in a telephone interview late in the afternoon.
Asked if there had been a medical procedure performed today, Jackson said that would be a question for surgeon Dean Richardson, who could not be reached for comment.

and

At that time, Richardson also reported that an abscess near the lateral heel of his right hind foot had been drained and that the brace that was applied would allow more regular treatment of that foot.
However, Jackson said today, "The brace didn't work on him. They had to take that off. He really didn't like that brace they put on him."
One positive note is that Jackson said no new laminitis has been found on any of Barbaro's feet, front or back.

Please use the link above to read the entire story

Kenike

Jan. 27, 2007, 08:36 PM

I just went and lit a bunch of candles. This isn't looking good right now. I know he can rally, but I'm such a worrywart!

VirginiaBred

Jan. 27, 2007, 08:47 PM

Thanks, Alex~
Update 1390: Today (saturday) was another tough day for Barbaro. He did undergo a procedure, the nature of which I am not aware. I did speak to Peter Brette later this afternoon and know that after the procedure Barbaro was comfortable and standing and I think they were pretty comfortable with what had occured. Keep your thoughts positive for Barbaro.

Appassionato

Jan. 27, 2007, 09:06 PM

I want to add something in regards to abcessing and laminitis/founder: abcessing can be part of the healing process. Just speaking from my own founder case, he abcessed so badly in one hoof that at the toe/coronet the opening was two inches long. Both bulbs were about 3/4" as well. When I syringes tetracycline per the vet into one bulb, solution shot out of the toe. Same with the other heel bulb. That means they were connected! :eek:
Now I'm not going to sit here and say that's all that's going on, since the doc is concerned. I'm just offering that up since I went through a terrible ordeal as well.

holmes

Jan. 27, 2007, 11:41 PM

Amber_M

Jan. 27, 2007, 11:45 PM

Though I did hear Alex got a girlfriend out of all this - ONE FOR THE BOYS!!!

I really love all of your posts. :D

alysheba

Jan. 27, 2007, 11:59 PM

It seems peculiar that so many people have so much interest and speculate so wildly on horse they have never met - I want Barbaro to survive as much as anyone, but am quite content with the Bloodhorse or NBC updates rather than the daily play-by-play which really provides no new insight, but just reiterate the best healer is time, and nothing really happens that quickly. What are you guys going to do when he is moved from there, and life is pretty much normal? Or if he is put down?

Though I did hear Alex got a girlfriend out of all this - ONE FOR THE BOYS!!!

And I find it peculiar that a woman would post under the alter "hunglikeastallion".

VB was here from the first moments after the accident giving us credible info on Barbaros injury, and now his recovery. We are all very grateful to her.

Why and how these people choose to support Barbaro is their own business. They aren't hurting anyone. I know I would love to have a prayer team this strong in my corner if I were ever to fall ill.

There is a Barbaro thread in Off Course titled "On Barbaro". Your comments would be more welcome there.

holmes

Jan. 28, 2007, 12:18 AM

Appassionato

Jan. 28, 2007, 12:28 AM

I just think it might be best to let Barbaro and his people deal with things while we are quiet observers, rather then Monday morning quarterbacks/backseat drivers.

The only part of this I disagree with is that when people don't talk, information gets lost. I appreciate the updates from VB, even if I wouldn't do with Barbaro what the Jacksons/Dr. Richardson are doing. But at least we can all learn something from it. Such as, the abcessing. While it's terrifying some (and understandably), if it's what I think it is, he's in a healing stage! My only point is that most of the folks here believe in Barbaro, want to see him better, and hope that good comes out of all this even if he doesn't make it.

merrygoround

Jan. 28, 2007, 07:44 AM

It is a good thing I am not a women - if I was my username would be MangeyMare.

I just think it might be best to let Barbaro and his people deal with things while we are quiet observers, rather then Monday morning quarterbacks/backseat drivers.

I am sure with Alex's new girlfriend he should be spending time practicing his cookeing, charming her, etc.

I would say that 99% of the postings are positive, hopeful and far from negative, and second guessing. Those in the the other 1% are in my ignore list!! Wanna join???

Some of us are "fight to the end" types, some battles we've won, :D, some we've lost :cry:, but we're ready to cheer on those like the Jacksons, and Dr Richardson, who like us try, and try again.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 28, 2007, 07:45 AM

Sunday Morning ~
Barbaro has procedure on right hind leg (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/R/RAC_BARBARO?SITE=IADES&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)

merrygoround

Jan. 28, 2007, 07:46 AM

Now back to the main reason for this thread!

2ndyrgal

Jan. 28, 2007, 08:36 AM

VB, thanks for all your updates. Barbaro got a mention on the news here this morning (unusual though we are in KY). Things do sound a bit more grim at the moment, and the emotions certainly have to be taking a toll on the Jackson's. It is my hope for them that they only hear the "positive" responses and can shut out the negative, hateful ones, and continue to make their own decisions, based on the horse they love and see everyday. Please let them know that whatever happens with Barbaro, that there are many, many people here that think that they are the epitome of bravery and class, and so is the big horse.

Laurel&HollyFarm

Jan. 28, 2007, 08:43 AM

I haven't posted in a very long time but check this thread every day to see what is going on with Barbaro. Thank you Alex for keeping us up to date and thank you VB for posting Alex's updates.

I do hope this latest is a sign of healing and not a set back.

This morning I was looking for some photographs to put in some coasters I received at Christmas. I pulled out some shots my husband took from the 1996 Olympics. For some reason this one particular series of show jumping shots caught my eye. My husband had taken pictures of the scoreboard so that we would know who was in each picture. It was Michael Matz riding Rhum :D. So I will put them in the coasters and say a prayer for Barbaro.

Spoilsport

Jan. 28, 2007, 08:47 AM

Thanks VB & Alex for the updates!! Sending jingles and prayers.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 28, 2007, 08:50 AM

It was Michael Matz riding Rhum :D. So I will put them in the coasters and say a prayer for Barbaro.

:)

Anne FS

Jan. 28, 2007, 09:09 AM

From today's Phila. Inquirer:

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/16564812.htm

VirginiaBred

Jan. 28, 2007, 09:37 AM

Thanks, Alex~
Michael Matz had a nice winner earlier in the day at Gulfstream, Crusader Rabbit, paying $130.40! Both Chelokee and Round Pond worked yesterday. Peter was happy with both works.
I will endevour to get an update on Barbaro later this morning, early afternoon. Mike Jensen updated his story: Owner: 'It's not a good day for Barbaro' (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/16564812.htm)

Levi's owner

Jan. 28, 2007, 09:45 AM

Continued prayers for Team Barbaro.

It's a rare occasion that your animal's every day and treatment is highlighted in the media to inform people, but also to open it up for criticism. I am just thankful Team Barbaro is handling this with class and dignity and always remembering THE HORSE'S COMFORT comes first. When he's ready, he'll tell them. I don't think anyone who visits this thread on a regular basis will truly question the Jacksons and Dr. Richardson. They are doing what their hearts and Bobby are telling them to do.

Going to go light some candles.

holmes

Jan. 28, 2007, 10:01 AM

Michael Matz had a nice winner earlier in the day at Gulfstream, Crusader Rabbit, paying $130.40!

I mentioned this in another thread - IT WAS AN AWESOME RACE!!! WHAT A HORSE (and the jockey was fabulous too!!!). The horse went to the front, got put back in place, then it looked like he began to tire, but boy was I wrong!!

I went to the races with $50 to put on him to win - when I saw the odds I wimped out and put $20 on him to show!!! OOPS!!!

Auventera Two

Jan. 28, 2007, 10:35 AM

Sunday Morning ~
Barbaro has procedure on right hind leg (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/R/RAC_BARBARO?SITE=IADES&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)

This is so incredibly sad and pathetic. I do hope this poor creature gets the eternal rest very soon that he has so greatfully earned. :sadsmile: :(

dcm

Jan. 28, 2007, 10:40 AM

Increasing the jingles and prayers for Barbaro and Team Barbaro.

Go, Bobby, go!

I'm off to light candles, too.......

VirginiaBred

Jan. 28, 2007, 10:41 AM

Update 1393: An update from New Bolton: Update from Dr. Dean W. Richardson on Barbaro's condition (http://www.vet.upenn.edu/newsandevents/news/Barbaro_Update1-28.htm):

On Saturday, January 27, Barbaro was taken back to surgery because we could not keep him comfortable on his right hind foot. That foot developed a deep subsolar abscess secondary to bruising when he went through a period of discomfort on the left hind foot. It is not laminitis but the undermining of the sole and part of the lateral heel region are potentially just as serious. We attempted to manage the right hind foot in a cast and then in a custom fabricated brace but it was impossible to have access to the foot for treatment as well as acceptable stability and comfort. We elected to place his right hind in an external skeletal fixation device in order to provide the foot a chance to heal. This means that two steel pins have been placed transversely through his right hind cannon bone. These pins are connected to external sidebars that in turn are connected to a lightweight alloy foot plate. This results in the horse eliminating all weight bearing from the foot; the horse's weight is borne through the pins across his cannon bone. There is significant risk in this approach but we believed it was our only option given the worsening of the right hind foot problem. The major risk of the external skeletal fixation device is that the bone bearing the weight can fracture. Unfortunately, we felt we needed to take this risk because this approach offered our only hope of keeping Barbaro acceptably comfortable.
He had a perfect recovery from anesthesia and has been in and out of the sling since then. His left hind foot appears to be stable at this time. We remain concerned about both front feet. Remarkably, his attitude and appetite were excellent overnight.
We will continue to treat Barbaro aggressively as long as he remains bright, alert and eating. This is another significant setback that exemplifies how complex his medical situation remains because both hind limbs have major problems. Barbaro remains in the Intensive Care Unit of Penn's George D. Widener Hospital at New Bolton Center. Updates will be provided when new information is available.

2ndyrgal

Jan. 28, 2007, 11:10 AM

Sorry to hear this. The spirit and will that this horse has is incredible. Might be easier if he didn't try so damn hard.

msj

Jan. 28, 2007, 11:14 AM

Here's pulling for you Barbaro! :) :) :)

As for the naysayers.......(where is the upchuck icon when you need it):mad: :dead:

Lisa Cook

Jan. 28, 2007, 11:17 AM

vineyridge

Jan. 28, 2007, 11:24 AM

Sounds to me like he got a halo for his ankle. Thats nothing particularly innovative in human medicine. If they can keep him acceptably sedated so the abscess can heal, then maybe nature can bring him back to bearing weight on all four legs equally.

Poor horse! Such a lot to have to endure, but people do it all the time.

tullio

Jan. 28, 2007, 11:24 AM

So upsetting to hear this news... but I wanted to share a little something positive, anyway. Hope this is ok.

We have a horse in the lesson barn who was kicked in the pasture and came in with a broken bone in a hind leg. He's being kept on stall rest and under supervision of our vet and very experienced barn manager, and we're hoping for a full recovery.

As people come in the barn (and we have dozens of riders in for group lessons each day) many ask - "What's wrong with Icy?" We explain and tell them that even though his injury is much less severe, he's kind of like our own Barbaro now. They understand - even though they are mostly inexperienced with horses - that this means a long recovery time, and that he may not recover at all. They ask questions and come back to tell us what they learned while they were at home on the internet. We even have some young riders who have announced that they want to be vets and take care of horses! :)

We were talking about this in the barn a few days ago, and our BM said that maybe the most important things Barbaro has done is that his story has educated people and kept them interested. Vet visits for us now bring an audience of riders who want to learn more about what's going on. They understand that Icy has a long road ahead of him, and that he might not make it. They know more about the challenges of laminitis and infection.

It has been an educational (allthough sad) experience for everyone, and I know that Barbaro's story has contributed to that. Even if we lose Bobby, his influence will still be felt and appreciated by those who have learned from him and about him, and the horses that benefit from what we have learned.

That being said... Go, Bobby, go! (And Icy too!)

Lisa Cook

Jan. 28, 2007, 11:39 AM

Sounds to me like he got a halo for his ankle. Thats nothing particularly innovative in human medicine.

He is bearing all his right hind weight on pins inserted through his cannon bone. How this compares to a human halo is beyond me. Maybe if a human received a halo and then was dangled by it so it supported their weight.

War Admiral

Jan. 28, 2007, 11:57 AM

Maybe I'm reading too much between the lines, but it does sound to me as if they are at least considering that it might be time. :(

I have total faith in Team Barbaro to make the right decision for the horse, whatever that decision may be.

Still, this is terribly sad news. :(

VirginiaBred

Jan. 28, 2007, 12:01 PM

Thanks Alex~
Update 1395: Jeannine Edwards will be featured on ESPN News in a live telephone interview at about 1:50 pm. It is scheduled to run for 4 - 5 minutes.
Update 1394: Mike Jensen interviewed Dr. Richardson this morning, after New Bolton's release. His article includes content from both: Barbaro undergoes more surgery (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/16567607.htm). Excerpts from his interview with Dr. Richardson:

Richardson issued all that in a statement. In a telephone interview, he said, "The big thing is we NOT see anything bad happen at this point for awhile."
And Richardson made it clear that there are real risks involved.
"The major risk of the external skeletal fixation device is that the bone bearing the weight can fracture," Richardson said. He added, "The other thing -- we've been really struggling â€¦ it's one thing to have (problems with) one foot at a time, but to have two hind legs, it means he's really going to overload his front feet. Clearly, laminitis in his front feet is a strong concern. The best way to describe this, it's essentially like a house of cards. When one starts to go significantly awry, then more can happen."
Of the risk involved, Richardson said, "Unfortunately, we felt we needed to take this risk because this approach offered our only hope of keeping Barbaro acceptably comfortable."
Richardson and Barbaro's owners, Roy and Gretchen Jackson, talked in advance about the procedure, as they always do, but there wasn't any debate on whether the procedure was worth trying.
"This is a logical thing to try under the circumstances," Richardson said. "There was no reason not to try it under the circumstances. This is not something that makes a horse real uncomfortable. Typically, when you put a fixer on, it makes him more comfortable."

hitchinmygetalong

Jan. 28, 2007, 12:13 PM

What's that jaded old saying? Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

Which is what I have done since the moment he broke through the gate at Pimlico.

Continued good wishes to those close to Barbaro. I hope the roller coaster ride comes to an end soon.

merrygoround

Jan. 28, 2007, 12:30 PM

He is bearing all his right hind weight on pins inserted through his cannon bone. How this compares to a human halo is beyond me. Maybe if a human received a halo and then was dangled by it so it supported their weight.

Get educated girl.

It is similar if not the same as in principle to external fixation. I can happily tell you what a pain reliever it is.

Jessi P

Jan. 28, 2007, 12:34 PM

I wish for the very best outcome for Barbaro - that he will eventually be happy and pain free. I have the utmost faith that Team Barbaro will continue to do what is the best for the horse himself, as I believe they have done all along.

As an aside, we all need to remember that Barbaro's people are the ones calling the shots here and we need to respect their decisions. We may not all agree with their decisions but they are their choices to make, not ours. Bobby is the Jackson's horse, not the public's.

IF, at the end of this road Barbaro ends up not making the course the journey will NOT have been in vain. Each and every experience with Bobby and his injuries will teach his team something that could help a horse down the road, who could be one of our own horses. This was a chance for Team Barbaro to go "above and beyond" the norm and push the limits of modern equine science. The horse is giving it his best effort to cooperate and do what is best for him. The Drs.' are doing their best, the Jackson's as well, and Barbaro's fans are doing what we can do by sending our positive energies and thoughts. If it isn't enough, it isn't for lack of trying on all our parts. We can't let the circle of light and hope that is Team Barbaro dissolve into bitterness if the the story ends up having an ending other than the miracle we all hope for.

Mariequi

Jan. 28, 2007, 12:34 PM

I have trust in Dean and Bolten. I don't see a reason to give up hope until they say it's time to let him go. And, Hung, if it don't interest you any more, don't pahticipate!

vineyridge

Jan. 28, 2007, 12:53 PM

I have a human friend who came down off a ladder and shattered his ankle as badly as Barbaro shattered his. Now, before anyone points out the difference, I do know that the human ankle only has two bones to deal with unlike the horse. Still, he was plated and screwed back together with an external fixation device. Looked like something you'd find in a medieval torture chamber. He had to keep his weight off it as much as possible, which is where the horse comparison breaks down. (Bad pun. Sorry. :sadsmile:)

Still, Barbaro has his sling and his pain meds, he has both hind legs supported to try and equalize the load, and he is a fighter. I'm still very worried about the future and know that this is a day to day thing, but the Jacksons and Richardson and NBC, the ones seeing him every day, will know when HE thinks it's time. At this point, I would think it's as much his decision as theirs.

tma

Jan. 28, 2007, 12:59 PM

The external skeletal device that Barbaro has now is what was used with my neighbor's horse, back when it fractured it's P-1 into 9+ pieces, dislocated the fetlock, etc. That, combined with pins, plates, and a cast on the affected leg is what supported his leg for over six months.

I had wondered why something like it wasn't used with Barbaro intially.

2ndyrgal

Jan. 28, 2007, 01:07 PM

I think originally the bones were in the wrong place and too shattered for an external fixation device to have provided enough support and immobilization while healing took place. We have learned an awful lot about what is possible with Barbaro, which will just continue to make treating catastrophic injuries to horses, more possible with better results.

Bugs-n-Frodo

Jan. 28, 2007, 01:13 PM

I am still jingling for Barbaro! I dearly hope he can pull through this and lead a comfortable life and I trust the Barbaro team to do what is best for him. Thanks again VB for keeping us posted.

Sannois

Jan. 28, 2007, 01:29 PM

I've admired Barbaro's spirit throughout all of this, and have been quietly hopin g that he'd pull through. But with this latest news, enough is enough...let the poor horse go with whatever dignity he has left.

This has become about can it be done. I am sorry but I just heard this on the news and was livid! I cant believe it! it made me cry!:no:

clint

Jan. 28, 2007, 01:43 PM

monstrpony

Jan. 28, 2007, 01:51 PM

Jingles for them all. :cry: :cry: :cry:

OneonOne

Jan. 28, 2007, 02:00 PM

This external device was applied to the right leg, correct? The leg that was shattered initially?

Would there be an increased risk (compared to a healty leg) of the pins through the cannon causing a fracture since this is the leg that is already pinned and screwed together? Or was the cannon bone undamaged? It's been a long time since I looked the original x-rays, so forgive my ignorance. I realize the article stated that a fracture was a risk, but I wasn't clear on whether that risk applied only to Barbaro and his damaged leg, or if that risk exists for a healthy leg too. If that is the case, this seems particularly risky.

I hope he remains comfortable.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 28, 2007, 02:13 PM

Thanks, Alex~

Update 1396: A quick summary of Jeannine's interview on ESPN News. She explained the current situation as per the press release from New Bolton. She noted that a vet acqaintance confirmed the procedure to add the "stabalizer" is not unusual / not unheard of. It is a last resort attempt to stabalize the situation and keep him comfortable. She stated the current prognosis is not good, very very serious. She had just got off the phone with Michael Matz. Michael was very down and very subdued. Michael's comment (paraphrased): "How many times can a boxer take a punch and get back up". She was unable to contact the Jackson's, and presumed they are devastasted.
Jeannine did mention this site and the support you as "an amazing group of people" are providing.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 28, 2007, 02:15 PM

I think this is as bad as it gets.
My prayers to Mr/Mrs Jackson, Michael Matz and Dr. Richardson and team.

War Admiral

Jan. 28, 2007, 02:17 PM

Let's light some candles, people.

Jessi P

Jan. 28, 2007, 02:18 PM

It will be a sad, sad day if he can't handle the pain any longer.

My thoughts and prayers are with the Jacksons, Dr R and the whole NBC team.

****JINGLES ****

VirginiaBred

Jan. 28, 2007, 02:20 PM

Let's light some candles, people.

:cry::(:cry::(:cry:

War Admiral

Jan. 28, 2007, 02:23 PM

Same, VB. I am just stricken, but what the HORSE needs is the most important thing now, I'm sure we all agree on that.

My thoughts and prayers to the vets, nurses, the Jacksons and all on Team Barbaro. :(

Bugs-n-Frodo

Jan. 28, 2007, 02:27 PM

Just lit a whole bunch of candles! Hugs Barbaro, I am thinking of you!

VirginiaBred

Jan. 28, 2007, 02:28 PM

http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37294

www.bloodhorse.com

Barbaro has sustained a deep subsolar abscess in his right hind foot, forcing doctors to try a risky procedure Jan. 27 to reduce pressure from bearing weight on that foot. This was the latest setback on the same leg he shattered during the running of the Preakness Stakes (gr. I) in May.

Dr. Dean Richardson, chief surgeon for the Kentucky Derby presented by Yum! Brands (gr. I) champion, said in an update following the surgery that the biggest fear is that Barbaro could break his cannon bone.

"We attempted to manage the right hind foot in a cast and then in a custom fabricated brace but it was impossible to have access to the foot for treatment as well as acceptable stability and comfort," Richardson said in a statement released by the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center. " We elected to place his right hind in an external skeletal fixation device in order to provide the foot a chance to heal. This means that two steel pins have been placed transversely through his right hind cannon bone. These pins are connected to external sidebars that in turn are connected to a lightweight alloy foot plate.

"This results in the horse eliminating all weight bearing from the foot; the horse's weight is borne through the pins across his cannon bone. There is significant risk in this approach but we believed it was our only option given the worsening of the right hind foot problem."

To read the entire article, use the link above.

Claddagh

Jan. 28, 2007, 02:30 PM

:cry: My thoughts and prayers for Barbaro, Mr. and Mrs. Jackson, Dr. Richardson and the whole New Bolton team, Michael Matz and all of the other Barbaro team members. :cry:

Everyone light some candles please.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 28, 2007, 02:32 PM

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/national-news/2007/January/28/Barbaro-has-surgery-on-right-limb-procedure-called-a-significant%20risk.aspx

www.thoroughbredtimes.com

War Admiral

Jan. 28, 2007, 02:34 PM

Thanks as always for the updates, VB. This must truly be a heart-rending task today. I for one truly appreciate it b/c I can't always take the TWR forum!

vineyridge

Jan. 28, 2007, 02:36 PM

Was wondering something.

Has anyone ever tried a wheelchair for horses? I know there have been places making hind leg replacement wheels for dogs, goats, and sheep for many, many years, and they do work.

Has anyone tried something similar for horses?

Freebird!

Jan. 28, 2007, 03:04 PM

I'm thinking that hasn't been tried due to the fact that horses - unlike dogs - have the added complication of founder, if they don't have equal weight on all four legs. Besides the fact that you'd have to get a pretty dang big "wheelchair" for a horse, and then....how would you get it to roll in a stall?

Call me old fashioned, but I'm just a stickler for quality of life. Heck, they didn't do a tenth of any of this for Secretariat when he foundered.

holmes

Jan. 28, 2007, 03:09 PM

I think you guys might be riding the highs and lows of reading between the lines a tad too much - stay calm, and keep your fingers crossed.

Kenike

Jan. 28, 2007, 03:11 PM

I just think it might be best to let Barbaro and his people deal with things while we are quiet observers, rather then Monday morning quarterbacks/backseat drivers.

I am sure with Alex's new girlfriend he should be spending time practicing his cookeing, charming her, etc.

Nobody here is backseat quarterbacking, we're all quiet and prayerful observers. No advice given.

As for your comments about Alex, wow. Totally uncalled for.

Now I'm off to finish reading....this just infuriated me so I had to comment.

CAH

Jan. 28, 2007, 03:21 PM

:no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no:

2ndyrgal

Jan. 28, 2007, 03:25 PM

Hopefully the press and public can let them have the peace they need right now. My husband and I watched the update on espn (thanks vb) and my husband asked why they hadn't put him down yet. I told him that had Barbaro at any time, himself, given up or given in, not cooperated and had the will to live, they would have. But how do you stop trying to help a horse that has done everything HE can to keep fighting?

Obi

Jan. 28, 2007, 03:28 PM

I think it would be nice that during this very uncertain time in regards to Barbaro's future, we all stop with the bickering, negative opinions, and just hope for the best (leaving private thoughts of what should have been done or should not have been done) to themselves.:cry:

Having gone through a horrible illness with my own horse, and having it end sadly, I just hate to think of how all of those people who have been by Barbaro's side, from vets, caretakers, owners, and just fans, my thoughts are with you all. And to Barbaro, you are an amazing fighter-the true heart of a thoroughbred!:)

off to wipe the tears from my eyes and light some candles....

Thank you again VB for the updates.

Daydream Believer

Jan. 28, 2007, 03:32 PM

What sad news. I never agreed with trying to save him to live as an invalid but I was pulling for him nonetheless that somehow he would make it and live a semi normal life. I hope that he can rebound but if not, I hope they do not wait too long to make the humane choice.

annikak

Jan. 28, 2007, 03:35 PM

how sad for everyone involved- esp Barbaro- it is sad anyway you look at it.:cry: :cry: :cry:

Kenike

Jan. 28, 2007, 03:51 PM

okay, now I've finished reading all the posts...

What gets me is that it sounds like this is a last-ditch effort. I completely agree with "hope for the best but prepare for the worst." Not that I like it.

VB, I have special thoughts for you today. You already work so hard for us to keep us all updated. Today must be killing you with the stress and worry! You are greatly appreciated....don't ever doubt that!

Off to light more candles, jingle my curb chain a bit more, and say some prayers.

vineyridge

Jan. 28, 2007, 04:01 PM

I've just been to the K-9 Kart website. They've been in business for 40 something years, and have designed carts for miniature horses. If one could be made for Barbaro, they would be the people to do it. I guess that size might be the true limiting factor for cart use.

What I don't see is how a properly designed cart wouldn't load the front legs and hind equally if the wheels are the right size. :confused:

Anne FS

Jan. 28, 2007, 04:11 PM

from Associated Press:

http://www.adelphia.net/news/read.php?id=13415438&ps=1013&cat=&cps=0&lang=en

"Barbaro had two steel pins placed in a bone in his right hind leg, a risky surgery that's the latest setback in the Kentucky Derby winner's fight for survival.

"I'm upset, worried, not sleeping well," chief surgeon Dr. Dean Richardson said Sunday in a phone interview with The Associated Press. "A lot of people are very, very committed and spent a huge amount of emotional sources on this horse. So it's very upsetting when things go badly."

The surgery was performed Saturday, after Barbaro developed a "deep abscess" in the right hind foot last week. The abscess could not be treated without removing a recently applied cast, which was replaced with a protective brace "in order to provide the foot with a chance to heal."

Richardson said in a statement issued Sunday by the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center in Kennett Square, Pa., that the pins were placed transversely through his right hind cannon bone - one of the three bones healed after being shattered eight months ago in the Preakness.

He said the pins are connected to "external sidebars that in turn are connected to a lightweight alloy foot plate." This results, Richardson said, "in the horse eliminating all weight bearing from the foot. The horse's weight is borne through the pins across his cannon bone."

If the bone were to break again, Richardson said: "I think we'll quit."

After months of improvement, Barbaro has endured several setbacks the past three weeks. This one could be the most critical, since other problems could arise.

With the back legs hurting, Barbaro's front feet likely will bear more weight, making them susceptible to laminitis, the often fatal hoof disease the colt has had in his left rear since July.

"It's something that we are watching closely," Richardson said, "and that could also be a thing that could lead to us quitting."

Allowing the pins across the cannon bone to bear weight carries "significant risk," but Richardson said "we believed it was our only option given the worsening of the right hind foot problem. Unfortunately, we felt we needed to take this risk because this approach offered our only hope of keeping Barbaro acceptably comfortable."

When laminitis was discovered in his left hind foot in July, Richardson had to remove 80 percent of the hoof. Other issues have followed. Earlier this month, Barbaro had his first "significant setback" with Richardson removing damaged tissue from the colt's left hind leg.

In his statement Sunday, Richardson said: "We will continue to treat Barbaro aggressively as long as he remains bright, alert and eating. This is another significant setback that exemplifies how complex his medical situation remains because both hind limbs have major problems."

Richardson further explained that Barbaro had been uncomfortable on his right hind foot because of the development of a "deep subsolar abscess secondary to bruising when he went through a period of discomfort on the left hind foot.

"It is not laminitis, but the undermining of the sole and part of the lateral heel region are potentially just as serious," Richardson said. "We attempted to manage the right hind foot in a cast and then in a custom fabricated brace, but it was impossible to have access to the foot for treatment as well as acceptable stability and comfort."

On Saturday, owner Gretchen Jackson told The Philadelphia Inquirer that Barbaro was again facing tough odds.

"He's got a lot of issues, and not any of them is bad enough to say goodbye. But put together it's not a good day for Barbaro," Jackson said.

La Gringa

Jan. 28, 2007, 04:15 PM

For some reason this is scaring me worse than some of the other things that have happened. I really hope he can pull through this. He's been through so much already. I'm sad he's having setbacks after doing so well for so long...

I hope he doesn't become too uncomfortable to take it anymore. This last post has me worried. :(

Classic Melody

Jan. 28, 2007, 04:42 PM

:( Prayers here ... I think this is the grimmest things have looked since Preakness day.

eks

Jan. 28, 2007, 04:42 PM

This is just so sad for Barbaro and everyone he has touched.

Thanks for everything VB.

Anne FS

Jan. 28, 2007, 04:56 PM

It ain't over til it's over, though, so keep heart, and remember that a "last resort" is often the successful resort.

I think it's very kind of those involved to choose their words in a way that will have prepared us for the worst, if indeed God forbid the worst happens. That is very kind of them to us in the midst of worries and hurt that when all's said and done is entirely theirs and not any of our business. Everyone directly involved has been a class act throughout.

That being said, there's not an iota of doubt in my mind that the owners, trainer, and doctors have ALWAYS done what's best for the horse. ALWAYS.

Auventera Two

Jan. 28, 2007, 05:26 PM

And gee, all along the information has been that the owners would euthanize when the horse is clearly uncomfortable. So........why aren't they doing it?

Auventera Two

Jan. 28, 2007, 05:29 PM

I've admired Barbaro's spirit throughout all of this, and have been quietly hopin g that he'd pull through. But with this latest news, enough is enough...let the poor horse go with whatever dignity he has left.

Yes, absolutely. This has totally crossed the line at this point. Stringing the horse along further and further is inhumane. Put the horse to rest and free him from this prision and pain he lives in. :no: :cry:

holmes

Jan. 28, 2007, 05:35 PM

And gee, all along the information has been that the owners would euthanize when the horse is clearly uncomfortable. So........why aren't they doing it?

Every horse in the hospital has a certain level of discomfort - but the majority of them are tolerable, I am sure when his becomes untolerable they will respond.

Levi's owner

Jan. 28, 2007, 05:40 PM

I think Barbaro will tell them very soon what his decision is. I'm still praying that he fights the good fight. But, I'm with Classic Melody. I just have a bad feeling. Going to light more candles to give Team Barbaro strength in this tremendous time of difficulty.

Songsmom

Jan. 28, 2007, 05:45 PM

And gee, all along the information has been that the owners would euthanize when the horse is clearly uncomfortable. So........why aren't they doing it?

I am sure that everyone is waiting for Barbaro to say - OK guys I've had enough - AND HE WILL when he has had enough. Anyone who has had to deal with a sick animal knows - they let you know. Prayers for all involved.

Anne FS

Jan. 28, 2007, 05:58 PM

And gee, all along the information has been that the owners would euthanize when the horse is clearly uncomfortable. So........why aren't they doing it?

Horse Care 101, TS. Horse is uncomfortable. You try to fix it.

When you can't fix it any more or when the horse stops trying, then you let him go.

You can't understand this.

Well, some can. Do you HONESTLY think that his owners and doctors are looking at him and not weighing this option from Day 1? You're wrong.

Levi's owner

Jan. 28, 2007, 06:03 PM

Also, there is a difference between manageable and unmanageable pain. I rode a jumper with a weak stifle. We were able to manage his pain. When we couldn't anymore, he was retired from jumping and very happily became a trail horse.

Still praying...

Anne FS

Jan. 28, 2007, 06:06 PM

From Sports Illustrated:

"It's something that we are watching closely, and that could also be a thing that could lead to us quitting," Richardson said.

The colt was doing well Sunday, according to Richardson, and "we will continue to treat Barbaro aggressively as long as he remains bright, alert and eating," he said in Sunday's update sent out by the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center in Kennett Square, Pa.

Based on Richardson's advice, owners Roy and Gretchen Jackson have been making the decisions concerning Barbaro. Their major concern from the start has been to keep Barbaro comfortable.

"No one is interested in putting the horse through any type of misery," Richardson said. "We're going to treat him the best way we can as long as he stays comfortable. And we're going to stick with that no matter if his chances are 1 percent or 90 percent.

"If he gets to the point where we just don't think it's reasonable to go on, we will not go on."

_____________

I know that some on this list think the above is all lies.

I don't.

Laurel&HollyFarm

Jan. 28, 2007, 06:32 PM

Not posting in quite some time and now two in one day :eek:.

Has anyone read "The City of Falling Angels" by John Berentdt? He is the guy that wrote "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil". I am only half way through it but there is a palace in Venice, Italy named "The Barbaro". So far I have learned that this palace has had some major set backs but came through well. Hope the same happens for our guy :yes:. I am really worried :sadsmile:.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 28, 2007, 06:34 PM

VirginiaBred

Jan. 28, 2007, 06:37 PM

Link to Richard Rosenblatt's article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/28/AR2007012800374.html

msj

Jan. 28, 2007, 06:46 PM

Janet

Jan. 28, 2007, 06:55 PM

Just had an update on NPR.

They stressed that he is "still taking peppermints from people".

Dispatcher

Jan. 28, 2007, 07:02 PM

this colt has been through a lot, as we all know. He is in good hands. And to have had him as long as we have had is ia gift. Barbaro has had his set backs and we all knew from the beginning that this was a terribly "iffy" situation. Let's all remember that he is getting the best care that he can and his apparently lovely temperment is getting him through all this.

We all on this thread LOVE this horse. Let's hope for the best and leave all in the hands of the experts that are caring for him.

LOVE that champion!

monstrpony

Jan. 28, 2007, 07:03 PM

Please, please, please--just leave us alone in our current misery over this situation. If you must resurect your "I told you so"s and "this is wrong"s, please start another thread elsewhere to do it.

Just ... Please. Not again. Leave it. Leave us alone.

Thanks--

VirginiaBred

Jan. 28, 2007, 07:08 PM

Per Alex: Mrs. Jackson's words are very comforting I think.

"It's not over 'til it's over," she said. "I'd say he's comfortable and being treated very well. As long as he's comfortable ... Dean knows our feelings. We trust him."

VirginiaBred

Jan. 28, 2007, 07:09 PM

I feel we all need to look to Gretchen Jackson as the best inspiration one can have at a time like this.
She trusts and believes. And so do I.

Dispatcher

Jan. 28, 2007, 07:21 PM

feel we all need to look to Gretchen Jackson as the best inspiration one can have at a time like this.
She trusts and believes. And so do I.
Jan. 29, 2007 12:08 AM

Me too, VB

Anne FS

Jan. 28, 2007, 07:38 PM

Well, this is a public forum, and anyone can post whether we agree with one another or not. And that is a wonderful thing.

I know most here are trying to keep exclusively happy thoughts, and that's great, but censorship? No way!

Anyway, back on track...here's wishing for the best possible outcome and that the new procedure WORKS.

cvl

Jan. 28, 2007, 07:42 PM

13,250 candles from 62 countries and still growing!! Up from 3,000 this morning!!!!

did you light some candles today??

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=barba

Janet

Jan. 28, 2007, 07:44 PM

There is no attempt at censorship. The intent is to use THIS thread JUST for updates- and comments directly related to the updates- and to use OTHER THREADS on Barbaro for discussions of what is, or is not, the "right" thing to do.

It makes it a lot easier for those of us who are looking for "the facts, nothing but the facts". We don't have to wade through lots of opinions.

When we want to expres our opinions, or see other peoples opinions,, we go to one of the other threads.

It is not a question of "happy thoughts". It is separating the updates from the opinions.

Sugarbrook

Jan. 28, 2007, 07:48 PM

I have lit more candles. I have done this since the first day they started. No horse has had more prayers, candles, or treats for the staff and Barbaro then the one and only!!!!!! My heart is heavy tonite. What happens is out of our control and I know it will be the right decision.

merrygoround

Jan. 28, 2007, 07:51 PM

Lori T

Jan. 28, 2007, 07:56 PM

Sending major jingles for Barbaro. He is always in my thoughts.

sid

Jan. 28, 2007, 08:14 PM

In many ways this ordeal has been harder on the owners than on their horse, who displays this unwavering will and "heart", the very attributes -- that "something" -- humans cannot quite put a finger on, yet so admire. Even nationally, from non-horse people.

Many of us have "been there" going through the ups and downs of a catastrophic injury or illness with a horse that we adore.

I have to believe that those who have criticized the lengths to which the owners and team of veterinarians have taken to save this horse have never owned one with that kind of heart and determination, like Barbaro, who consisently bounces back -- presenting a "sparkly" demeanor in the face of adversity, eagerly letting everyone know by their behavior and attitude they are NOT suffering enough to want to "go". BTW, this IS how horses tell you "how the ARE" at the moment.

The fact that the owners and vets have based their decisions on what Barbaro is "telling them" by his attitude and demeanor day to day, has my utmost respect. To me, it's a breath of fresh air to see a horse not being treated like a motorcycle that cannot be repaired -- and thus relegated to the trash heap. They're listening to their horse.

Horses that have this kind of heart are really tough on the humans who are trying to help -- you just "go with them". The folks that read about it on a BB don't get it either until they've owned one.

In the end, whether he lives or dies, his life will not have been without an impact on other horses with a catastrophic leg injury. Winning the Derby and what he "could have been" (winner of the coveted Triple Crown) may, in fact, not wind up being his legacy. His legacy may be in what was learned that can help other horses. And to his owners who have spent the time and money in this endeavor, I am truly grateful for that! We all should be.

Unless you've owned a horse who has that special something that WILL, many people can't understand why you'd "let this go on". Not all horses are like Barbaro -- many would have succumbed some time ago. They're listening to what this horses' attitude and demeanor say and that tells them whether to go on or throw in the towel.

I have no doubt that if Barbaro's condition can no longer be managed to keep him with that "sparkle" as they work toward repair and rehab (which is often a longer haul for many horses with lesser injuries), they will indeed let him go. They will, I have no doubt.

In the interim, all we can do is keep our fingers crossed and thank the owners and their team of vets for their understanding the "individual" horse, going with him..which, because Barbaro COULD DO IT -- ultimately will help veterinary medicine to benefit others.

ivy62

Jan. 28, 2007, 08:26 PM

For this is very upsetting. We had hoped for a long time he would recover and at least so he would live a happy life at home. It is a long shot to say the least now but I am jingling and lighting candles here in NY. It has been a long hard road for Barbaro but it is not over yet...
He is stilleating and is bright eyed that is A POSITIVE thing.....

CSSporthorses

Jan. 28, 2007, 08:29 PM

Just wanted to check in and send my prayers out to Bobby, his entire team, the Jackson's, and everyone else who knows him and loves him. I'm sorry I'm not a frequent poster on here, but I check in at least 2 times a day. I'll be going to bed with a little extra prayer for the big boy.

Tenley

niceb

Jan. 28, 2007, 08:32 PM

Those of you who have lived through a devastating situation with their beloved horse and cared and nursed for this creature with all your heart and soul, as the Jackson's and Dr. Richardson and all those involved with Barbaro have, will tell you that when indeed it is time , the horse will let you know. I have been on this awful roller coaster ride and my mare who was fighter and I loved with all my heart told me when it was time to let go. You can see it in their eyes when the fight is up. I don't believe that anyone involved in Barbaro's recovery would have taken this as far as they have if for one moment they saw he was not up for the battle ahead. Some horses have a incredible will to survive. I pray he will continue to fight and indeed if he cannot, trust me , he will let them know it is over. All my prayers for you dear Barbaro and prayers and strength to all those who love and watch over you....

Fluffie

Jan. 28, 2007, 09:06 PM

Gretchen Jackson spent time with Barbaro on Sunday, and said her colt is "still bright-eyed and still eating.
"It's not over 'til it's over," she said. "I'd say he's comfortable and being treated very well. As long as he's comfortable ... Dean knows our feelings. We trust him."

There's nothing better than a (medically) talented *and* empathetic vet during a crisis. :yes:

Good luck to all at this difficult time.

Laurel&HollyFarm

Jan. 28, 2007, 09:46 PM

Janet said something about Barbaro asking for peppermints. I made the mistake of telling some people at the office that my horses like peppermints. I am overrun with Christmas candy canes. Do you think he would like them?

I would be more than happy to put them in the mail. Just saving a few for Cigar in April. Ok, I doubt Cigar remembers that I bring him peppermints every April but I do. Some TV station actually video taped it a few years ago.

gubbyz

Jan. 29, 2007, 02:21 AM

Sorry to all the folks who feel this is the "happy happy joy joy" sprinkle fairy dust and all is better thread. I am a true Barbaro fan from the start. I even made up BELIEVE IN BARBARO bracelets and gave them out. So do not flame me when I am done here. This horse has become "Humpty Dumpty". He is breaking and being glued back together. I agree with Lisa Cook, I think time is coming. Just because he takes peppermints and is eating does not mean he is out of pain. He is a stallion, he will hide his pain and be alert, it is his job. If he had a herd to protect and a broken leg, damn sure believe he would try. Enough is enough, I never thought I would admit defeat, but it is coming close to it. God bless everyone who is trying out there and supporting him.

VirginiaBred

Jan. 29, 2007, 07:17 AM

Monday Morning ~
Thanks, Alex~
Update 1398: Additional media coverage from saturday's surgery.
NPR's "All Things Considered": Derby Winner Barbaro Still at Risk from Injuries (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7057336). Allison Keyes interviewed Dr. Richardson (not live), and reported from the interview that Barbaro was bright-eyed, eating carrots out of people's hands yesterday (sunday). She also noted the new brace is likely to be needed for approximately 6 weeks.
CBS News interviewed their vet / reporter Dr. Debbye Turner: Setback in Barbaro's recovery (http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2405583n). Interesting but no new information, she does discuss his fighting spirit.
Sandra McKee of The Baltimore Sun: Barbaro receives new foot brace after 'significant setback' (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/horseracing/preakness/bal-sp.barbaro29jan29,0,589066.story). Sandra spoke with Mrs. Jackson for this story on sunday:

"You wish it wasn't happening," Gretchen Jackson said. "But it is."
Jackson said Barbaro's initial injury has resulted in changes in his right leg and in the way he walks on it.
"I guess it has to be an issue," she said. "He has to learn to live with his new leg, and they're trying to help him live with it. But it has created problems. Horses are horses and things happen."
Jackson again said the most important thing is for Barbaro to be pain-free.
"As long as that is the case, we'll go forward," she said. "I visited him twice [yesterday] with a friend, and his eyes were bright and he is still trying to bite you. He's still interested in life.
"They're taking good care of him, and we are staying positive. That's really all you can do."
Richardson said Barbaro "remarkably" continues to have an "excellent attitude and appetite."

Mike Jensen, Philadelphia Inquirer updated his story: Surgery leaves Barbaro at risk (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/16568943.htm) after talking to Mr. Jackson on sunday:

After visiting Barbaro yesterday, Roy Jackson said last night: "He appears to be fairly comfortable. He had his three buckets of grass, and is doing as well as could be expected under the circumstances."
At this point, everybody involved is just taking things "day-to-day, hour-to-hour," Jackson said. One positive that he could find about the latest surgery: "If this had happened two months after the [Preakness], the fractures would not have healed enough to do something like that. Thank goodness there's a chance."

And of course this latest setback is news around the world (http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/news/2007/01/079.shtml).