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Lord Helpus
Jun. 25, 2012, 07:42 PM
I remember reading that event horses who left Australia were often sold here (or in Europe) because the quarantine to get back into Australia was so long and expensive.

Now, on a Black Caviar thread (the incredible Australian race horse who just ran in England, increasing her record to 22 -- 22-0-0) posters are saying that there is only a 21 day quarantine.

Anyone know why the apparent discrepancy?

Tootsie
Jun. 25, 2012, 08:06 PM
21 days sounds standard for the quarantine in England. She will then spend another two weeks in quarantine in Australia before returning to her stable.

I work for two years for eventers in Australia and I never heard of a horse that was sold because they couldn't afford quarantine. Yes, it is expensive but it is a fact of this for the Australian based eventers and it is factored into their plan.

NCRider
Jun. 25, 2012, 08:43 PM
I think it was more the cost. Back before eventers were worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, I bet the cost of shipping home was the equivalent of a large percentage of the value of the horse where it was almost cost effective to just buy another one.

Janet
Jun. 26, 2012, 12:55 AM
I remember reading that event horses who left Australia were often sold here (or in Europe) because the quarantine to get back into Australia was so long and expensive.

Now, on a Black Caviar thread (the incredible Australian race horse who just ran in England, increasing her record to 22 -- 22-0-0) posters are saying that there is only a 21 day quarantine.

Anyone know why the apparent discrepancy?
Some 20 years ago, there were
-Equine diseasses in the rest of the world that had not yet reached Australia.
-No adeqaute vaccines or cures for those diseases.

In those days, it was much harder to get a horse (back) into Australia, with a longer quarantine, and many "innocous" (to Europe and US) diseases that would cause them to be rejected totally.

That is why "way back when" the Equestrian Olympic sport were held in Sweden when the rest of the Olympics were in Australia.

Nowadays, most of the dieases have got in anyway (though an outbreak of flu a few years ago caused great devastation because most horse were not vaccinated), and vaccines and cures.

Race horses, and TB stallions, go back and forth all the time.

For the privateer eventer, it is usually the cost of shipping, combied with the higher value of the horse in the European market, that leads to many Australian horses being sold in Europe instead of shipping them back home.

vineyridge
Jun. 26, 2012, 07:40 AM
"Privateer eventer"? Please explain. I'm intrigued by the concept. :)

NeverTime
Jun. 26, 2012, 08:18 AM
I remember reading that event horses who left Australia were often sold here (or in Europe) because the quarantine to get back into Australia was so long and expensive.

Slightly OT, but I'd heard the same thing around the 2010 WEG about the South African eventers. That if they come here, they get sold rather than returning home. Is that (a) true, and (b) because of quarantine issues or just because it makes financial sense to sell in a stronger market?

RAyers
Jun. 26, 2012, 08:37 AM
"Privateer eventer"? Please explain. I'm intrigued by the concept. :)

Those who compete at the highest levels but do it on their own dime rather than have sponsors etc. Most likely amateurs. Just like privateer racing teams.

Janet
Jun. 26, 2012, 05:54 PM
A privateer may not technically be an amateur, and they may have a little sponsorship (typicaly in "product", not cash). But they are self funding in terms of travel and competing.

Horse with No Name
Jun. 26, 2012, 06:33 PM
I know some of the good event horses owned and ridden by young(er) riders from both Aus and NZ are sold to fund their next horse/s and/or living/competing in Europe. Some of them have sponsorship that only goes so far; they need to be competing in Europe to get the experience and exposure; sometimes they get offered ridiculous $$ and have to make a business decision.

Oh yeah, I just read Janet's post - they would be the riders I am talking about.

findeight
Jun. 27, 2012, 12:05 PM
I bet a good Eventer would sell for alot more in the USA or Europe because there are more competitions at all levels and there are, therefore, alot more buyers then in Australia and certainly in South Africa.

It makes sense to sell them and move on to the next project....many BNRs and their owner clients here do that anyway without facing a shipping costs and quarantine requirements/cost. Get them to a certain point, compete them and market them.