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spotsinabox
Jun. 22, 2012, 02:28 PM
After seeing some of the goregous 'pinto' warmbloods on another thread ... I was wondering how many people ever considered showing their Pintos in the PtHA organization?

Since it is a color breed, they have opened it up to Minatures, Saddlebreds, Half Arabians, Gyspy Varners, Ponies, etc.

We had our first Half Arabian Pinto this year and I can't wait to see what her owners do with her :)

I like the APHA, but I've always heard how much fun everyone has at the Pinto World ... but didn't know if there was much of a local following ...

Burbank
Jun. 22, 2012, 03:05 PM
I would have loved to, but in NC there are no Pinto shows and no local charter/ club

they look likes lots of fun and I have heard great things about them

spotsinabox
Jun. 22, 2012, 04:01 PM
I wondered ... here in Kansas we have a strong APHA club, but the Pinto club isn't as active... but we're close enough to Tulsa many go to the World Show or the Color Congress in the fall.

I've also wondered, since PtHA is a recognized partner of the NSBA if anyone had thought about taking advantage of their programs as well with their colored sporthorses.

OveroHunter
Jun. 25, 2012, 09:51 AM
I would have loved to, but in NC there are no Pinto shows and no local charter/ club

they look likes lots of fun and I have heard great things about them

Ditto, we don't have one in GA either, but if they did I would show in it.

Are you talking about TidyRabbit's pinto warmbloods? I got to meet her and the Stoney Ponies in person when they came to show at the GIHP and they are amazing!!

spotsinabox
Jun. 25, 2012, 12:34 PM
I'm still new to this forum, so I'm not sure ..I just saw them on another thread and they were gorgeous!!

I always feel like I'm stuck in limbo land ... as a breeder, I like the breed shows --but, I would really like to see more of the 'english/dressage' movement ... so I keep hoping more people will utilize some of the programs out there :)

But, as was mentioned, it's hard to do without a strong local club ...

rabicon
Jul. 9, 2012, 05:56 PM
Oh love tidys:cool::yes:

gaitedincali
Jul. 9, 2012, 06:19 PM
I've thought about getting my pinto half-arab registered with the PtHA, but the local shows are mostly APHA horses. It's not really worth it to go be the only horse in in his divison.

They do seem to have a decent mini turnout though.

I just bought a nice pinto ASPCA/AMHR show mare in foal to a modern shetland, and since the mare is suspected to be homozygous tobiano I'll probably have 2 fancy pinto ponies to show next year. :D

That might be worth getting pinto papers on the little ones.

spotsinabox
Jul. 10, 2012, 01:35 PM
Yep, I think the mini's are thriving ... I know one customer who has a mini for her daughter to show in showmanship, etc. while she will be showing her 'regular' colt ... it makes a great way for the whole family to enjoy the show. Her daughter isn't intimidated by the size of the mini, and it helps her learn about taking care of horses at a young age ...

We had our first half-arabian this year ... I'm not sure what her owners are going to do with her, but we do have a sporthorse group that has a strong Arabian presents...

I think the PtHA has a lot of potential :)

Burbank
Jul. 10, 2012, 01:42 PM
and Pinto World looks like loads of fun

Emily&Jake
Jul. 10, 2012, 03:22 PM
If my horse had better conformation and was registered I would definitely consider it. We think he's NSH. but know for sure he's got some Arab in there. We think NSH because he moves like one.

Oh well! Local shows don't care about that really, and they are much cheaper! LOL

Emily

Burbank
Jul. 10, 2012, 03:50 PM
if your horse fits the color requirements and is not a draft or donkey cross they can get registred as a Pinto, having existing papers does not matter

tidy rabbit
Jul. 10, 2012, 04:12 PM
and Pinto World looks like loads of fun

When is it held? Is it in Oklahoma? Do they have jumper classes (not hunters)?


We have sort of kidded around about going sometime, but really I would love to go with the 3 great spotted ones. :)

Any links to info would be much appreciated.

Burbank
Jul. 10, 2012, 04:21 PM
http://www.pintoworld.com/ June 11-23 2012

they do have hunter over fences, its more stock style than hunter style, jumping and eq over fences and hunter hack, they also have dressage classes

OveroHunter
Jul. 10, 2012, 04:24 PM
Here is the jumping class description from the rule book


D. Jumpers Class
1. Jumper Course Design
a. Minimum height for jumps must be eighteen (18)
inches and maximum height twenty-eight (28) inches
for first jumping round.
b. Courses should be attractive, varied, and appropriate
to their setting.
c. Jumps could include brush, triple bar, water, and
similar jumps.
d. Brush jump must have a visible bar on top or beyond.
e. An in-and-out is to be considered and scored as two
jumps.
2. Ties
a. Jump-offs are to occur for any/all ties through 6th
place.
b. The jump-offs are to be over the original course.
170 2012 PtHA Rule Book
CLASSES
c. Jump heights will be increased not less than three (3)
inches and no more than six (6) inches in height for
each jump-off round.
d. The Pinto with the fewest faults will be declared the
winner.
e. Number of jumps to be raised is at the discretion of the
judge.
f. When jump height reaches 34”, exhibitors will be
timed on the course and those times will be used to
determine the placings if there are ties in the number
of faults.

tidy rabbit
Jul. 10, 2012, 04:29 PM
"d. The Pinto with the fewest faults will be declared the
winner."

That's fantastic that the rule book says "The Pinto" not "The horse". :)

Dressage too... hummm. I might have to look into this more seriously. Might be really fun!

spotsinabox
Jul. 10, 2012, 04:30 PM
The PtHA also has a Color Breed Congress in the fall that is a lot of fun and gaining a lot of support ..

http://www.pinto.org/congress/

And, PtHA horses can show at the NSBA World Show ... if they are liscensed -- can't remember if the stallion they are sired by has to be enrolled, or if there is a grandfather clause ... but here is a link to the NSBA Over Fences ...

http://www.nsba.com/world-championship-show-mainmenu-253/fence-classes.html

OveroHunter
Jul. 10, 2012, 04:40 PM
"d. The Pinto with the fewest faults will be declared the
winner."

That's fantastic that the rule book says "The Pinto" not "The horse". :)

Dressage too... hummm. I might have to look into this more seriously. Might be really fun!

Lol since the fences don't exceed 34" I could actually compete against you! I can just imagine my short fat paint standing next to Aeros now! :lol:

We'd have to handicap you somehow... Like you'd have to wear a blindfold and I get 5 seconds subtracted from my time... I think that would be fair ;)

JoZ
Jul. 10, 2012, 04:43 PM
Both of the trainers I work with train/show Arabians predominantly; I think PtHA is a great crossover for them. Lots of lovely pinto half-Arabs!

I'm a bit annoyed at PtHA for creating an entirely new category called "Utility" that applies only to Gypsy and Vanner horses. Really? Suck up much? And their rules STILL say no draft blood... can't imagine where those chunky little horses got their chunk. I was so excited to see the Utility category as a way to go have a fun show with my pinto draft crosses... would it have killed them to make Utility open to any thick hairy useful hony LOL?

As much as I shake my head over that, I still plan on getting my Paints registered Pinto, and offer a complementary Pinto registration to anyone who purchases one of my Paints.

OveroHunter
Jul. 10, 2012, 04:46 PM
Both of the trainers I work with train/show Arabians predominantly; I think PtHA is a great crossover for them. Lots of lovely pinto half-Arabs!

I'm a bit annoyed at PtHA for creating an entirely new category called "Utility" that applies only to Gypsy and Vanner horses. Really? Suck up much? And their rules STILL say no draft blood... can't imagine where those chunky little horses got their chunk. I was so excited to see the Utility category as a way to go have a fun show with my pinto draft crosses... would it have killed them to make Utility open to any thick hairy useful hony LOL?

As much as a shake my head over that, I still plan on getting my Paints registered Pinto, and offer a complementary Pinto registration to anyone who purchases one of my Paints.

I don't know much about the Pinto Association since it is pretty much nonexistent in GA, but I agree that's an absurd rule! No draft crosses, but GVs are allowed? :rolleyes:

tidy rabbit
Jul. 10, 2012, 04:49 PM
Lol since the fences don't exceed 34" I could actually compete against you! I can just imagine my short fat paint standing next to Aeros now! :lol:

We'd have to handicap you somehow... Like you'd have to wear a blindfold and I get 5 seconds subtracted from my time... I think that would be fair ;)

LOL. I think there would be some very fast horses in a class that height. Let's go next year! I'll meet you there! Too bad it's in June though when it's already so hot. But... I've always wanted to go, so maybe we'll do it!

Burbank
Jul. 11, 2012, 08:34 PM
you should totally do it, and then show us all your great pictures

I so wanted to take my guy before I sold him (half arab) but dang its a long drive from NC

Luseride
Jul. 12, 2012, 07:04 AM
I would show Pinto if there were shows closer than Charleson, SC, we are in northeast Georgia. I always hear that they are a lot of fun.

spotsinabox
Jul. 12, 2012, 09:21 AM
I hadn't thought of it before, but there are groups on Facebook like Pinto Pals ... maybe we should just put the word out .... :)

OveroHunter
Jul. 12, 2012, 09:43 AM
We should make a facebook group or something called "Bring the PtHA to the South!"

Let's do it TR!

Luseride
Jul. 14, 2012, 08:12 AM
We should make a facebook group or something called "Bring the PtHA to the South!"

Let's do it TR!

I would be willing to work on it. I am just over an hour from you, we started showing at Kel-Mac this year. There are enough Pinto qualifiying horses there just about to have a show.

spotsinabox
Jul. 15, 2012, 01:01 PM
Well, if nothing else, you all could have a caravan coming to the Pinto World :) or the Pinto Congress in November :)

I really like how diversified the Pinto organization is ... we had our first half Arabian Pinto this year -- I'm really hoping her owner will show her ...

OveroHunter
Jul. 16, 2012, 10:33 AM
I would be willing to work on it. I am just over an hour from you, we started showing at Kel-Mac this year. There are enough Pinto qualifiying horses there just about to have a show.

We'll have to meet up at Kel-Mac! My fiance and his nephew sometimes show at Kel-Mac and there are definitely a lot of Pintos out there. Did you go to the APHA show in Conyers in Feb?

Emily&Jake
Jul. 29, 2012, 01:27 AM
if your horse fits the color requirements and is not a draft or donkey cross they can get registred as a Pinto, having existing papers does not matter

Really? Because that's not what I have read.

jvanrens
Jul. 29, 2012, 01:12 PM
Really? Because that's not what I have read.

From the Pinto Associations website (after listing all the acceptable outcross breeds):



PtHA can also register horse mares and geldings based on their color alone as well as any sex of ponies and minis.


The PtHA does not accept any horses with Appaloosa, draft or mule breeding and/or characteristics or known breeding within the previous four generations, except for utility classified horses.


Horse stallions cannot be registered unless both parents are registered with PtHA or a PtHA approved outcross breed. Ponies and miniature stallions can be registered with undocumented parentage.

From that I would say only stallions need to be registered. Anything else just needs to have enough white.

Nootka
Jul. 29, 2012, 05:39 PM
Spotsinabox-

Did you ever get the Painting Freedom foal?

You need to update your website!!! :D

spotsinabox
Jul. 30, 2012, 02:12 PM
hmmmm ... my memory isn't what it used to be .. Painting Freedom?? I'm lost ... or confused, or both :)