Question for Merry

[Merry]

Dublin: that's a dear photo! Oh, that horse shows could be so pleasant and "fun" again, the mood that photo conveys.

suave: Okay, we may have just missed crossing paths, time-wise, at the fairgrounds. As soon as I saw the Daily Pilot photo, I knew, without looking at the caption, that was DeeDee Beauchamp. Again, didn't know her personally, but I "knew" her as one of the gals riding hunters at the fairgrounds. As for CHRIS CORNELL... LOL!Yes, she was Katrina's "rider" whom I er, replaced, let's say. The whole hoopla came to a head when, as I recall, she lied about her age at the A-rated fairgrounds show so she could still ride Juniors and Jackie Kruckenburg nailed her on it! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif The last straw, to Katrina, was when she rode a horse for Don Swan while Katrina was gone. That got her fired. I was just a young teen, sort of on the outside, but I just remember thinking, "So, she rode a horse for another trainer????Big whoopin' deal." Little did I realize the animosity between Katrina and Don! /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif I inherited the rides on Sweetie/No Exit, whatever the heck that little red TB gelding was called that Chris rode. Must say I cleaned up on him, and until recently showed a similar horse in the amateur division and my mom and sister would always remark, "It just brings back memories of you on Sweetie." /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

As for asking questions about trainers currently, I see you have e-mail. I'll e-mail you and we can be a tad more discreet. But go ahead and "ask" the names here... You'll probably get far more e-mail responses than just me!

[SuaveReno]

The BHSM (blond horse Show Mom) belonged to none-other that Julie Smith. I used to get such a kick out of seeing her navigate the tricky footing in her stiletto heels. And the blond hair and short skirts. She looked so trendy back then in comparision to my HS Mom, who was heavily into sensible shoes.

The girl I am referring to had the initials NH and her sister was the real riding star of the family. There was a birth announcement in Horses as well as a wedding announcement.

I ran into Lee Garrett about 10 years ago when I lived in Laguna Beach. She was working in the White House (Bar & Grill on PCH) there as the head bartender.

From last I heard about Dee Dee her Dad had set her up with a management job in one of his health clubs in Hawaii I think. But that was some time ago.

I remember in 1969, Lisa Wagner had a terrible riding accident at the fair grounds riding Harriet. I think she hit her head really hard and I don't think she really ever rode after that.

I saw her some years later and I could tell that the accident had taken its toll so to speak. The Wagner's were such nice folks.

I have really loved seeing all the wonderful pictures that have been posted. Keep 'em coming!

On a different note. I ran across a lady selling old editions of HORSES magazines on EBAY. She has a collection of about 15 years worth. If any of you are interested. let me know & I'll pass along her email address. She doesn't have many Christmas issues though.

Some terrific rider combinations I remember are Best Bet and Susie, Get Smart and Rob Gage, Gilligan and Susie Arnold, EastPoint and Debbie Flanigan, Patti Huddleston and Troubador, Munnings and Jimmy Kohn, Diane Dixon and Chances Are (I think or was that Francie Steinwedell??)

Do you remember that the fences for the kids classes were 3'6" with 4' spreads. Maybe our first fence, a brush, was kinda a warmup at 3' or so. Nowadays, it's 1'9" long stirrup (I just got back into showing last year after 30 years..call me crazy). I thought to myself what the heck is Long Stirrup, then the 2'6" medal classes the 3' Medals etc. What ever happened to Hunter Hack classes. I loooved that class. So many changes. I really feel dated.

The other night I watched "The Horse in the Grey Flannel Suit" they did some show filming at Portagese Bend HS. Did the riders that you caught glimpses of looked terrible??? Or did they just get some bad shots. There's one scene where they are filming someone on course and the horse chipped at every fence and the rider looked like a passenger. Is it my imagination???

Sorry for being so long winded...but I am having so much fun... /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[dublin]

PamM, I wish I had a relative in the TB breeding and pedigree business, but alas....
When did you ride at Lake Oswego Hunt Club? Portland Hunt Club was about 4 miles west of the little town of Progress, on Scholls Ferry Road, technically in Beaverton or Tigard. It was at the top of a hill, and most of what you could see from there was farmland. They had a clubhouse, outdoor ring and outdoor hunt course and the views of the surrounding countryside were spectacular! I went back to Oregon for the first time in about 25 years last spring, and all the places I rode at (Portland Riding Academy, Sunwood Farms, Mountain Park Stables) were long gone, replaced by houses and shopping malls, as well as Ridgeview Equestrian Center. Quite sad.

Lake Oswego Hunt Club is one of the sole surviving stables from my era, and looks virtually unchanged in all that time! It's been designated a historic landmark by the state of Oregon, and I found a website for them that you might want to check out:
http://www.lakeoswegohunt.com

SuaveReno, I loved Best Bet, and was lucky enough to compete against Susie a couple of times when I rode at the California State Fair. And I remember Eastpoint and Debbie Flanagan - wasn't he a really flashy bay (or chestnut, brain cells are failing me) with lots of chrome??

Does anyone recall Donna Storkan? I actually met her one year at the Oregon State Fair when she was up competing from California, and we became friends. I kept in touch with her while I was in
college in Southern California, and actually spent a Thanksgiving with her at a show at the Earl Warren Showgrounds in Santa Barbara. Her dad was nice enough to have a catered turkey dinner for all of her barn friends, which we ate out by their portable stalls! I lost touch with her after I moved to Northern California, but saw a few years ago in an alumni newsletter that my husband gets that she was married, with a couple of kids, living in Eugene, Oregon.

And finally, thanks for the nice words, Merry! It seemed like the local papers back then were always taking publicity photos for shows -- I have several more, along with ones of people I rode with, in an old scrapbook.

[Merry]

Sure, I remember Troubadour! And Peggy Osterkamp had Mateus. But both those horses had just left the scene when I started showing. Peggy Osterkamp's family's dairy is literally down the road from my house. I've run into her a few times in town. She had Eastern Flier turned out in a corral in front until he died. Her younger sister, Karen, was in a student teaching class with me, while we were getting our teaching credentials (yes, the state of California allowed me to instruct the youth of America!).

Yes, it must be really strange to you to see "Long Stirrup" classes. I had to have that one explained to me, too!

Okay, Calif. clique, let's all take a deep breath. We seem to have breathed new life into this thread yet again!

It's alive, alive, I say! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[SuaveReno]

I loved your picture!!! Your name sounds soo familiar to me. Did you advertised in HORSES from time to time? If I recall EastPoint was a flashy chestnut that Jimmy also showed in conformation hunters as well as Debbie. I remember when Susie won her Onodarka medal (or was it the finals...talk about brain cells failing!!) on Best Bet at Santa Barbara /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[This message was edited by SuaveReno on Feb. 18, 2001 at 10:39 PM.]

[dublin]

I had 3 or 4 ads in HORSES 1967-1972 timeframe.

[dublin]

After reading Erin's post about BB statistics for this website, I got to thinking that this topic might ultimately have more pages and posts than any other....so I put my brain cells (or what is left of them on this 2nd day of a 3 day weekend) to work to see if I could think of any longer topics. The only one that came to mind was 'Bush vs. Gore Re: Horse Industry' (how could we forget THAT one?? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ) , so I went all the way back to PAGE 64 of the posts (we have all definitely been a chatty bunch since that time!) and checked it out. It had 28 pages, 557 posts, and ran from 10/20 - 11/8/2000.

Q for Merry is currently 26 pages long, with 508 posts and has run from 11/23/2000 - 2/12/2001. It's definitely had a second wind the past few days, so it may go on FOREVER....I think we're gonna be #1 soon!!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (and major THANKS to Coreene for starting it all) /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[rusty]

I take my daughter to the snow today and this thread takes off.
I have noticed the chips in the movie The Horse in the Grey Flannel SUit, and some of the other faux pas. I am really beginning to notice them after watchin g them quite a lot last week. I think four times in the last five days. My two year old likes to watch the horses jump. No I am not brain washing her. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Bumpkin]

Susies sister.
Nancy Hutchinson. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[SuaveReno]

You are not going to believe this but it was I, SuaveReno, not Jackie that blew the whistle on Chris at the OC A show. Chris was 3 years my senior and was a senior when I was a freshman at CdMHS. I was really upset because this show was my last as a junior and I really wanted to end my "career" with a bang. Eric Atterbury was the judge (and he was kinda poopy judge to begin with) and I believe she won 3 flat classes. So I had my Dad drive back to the house and pick up my High School annual and we showed it to Ralph V. Walker, then Chris needed to show her birth certificate and the rest was history. So Katrina had no knowledge of her age??? Hard to believe since she was at UCI at the time and had to be riding during the day. Interesting stuff. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[SuaveReno]

Right you are.

That was the biggest scandal at the time! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Taryn]

I agree, this topic has been most entertaining. While I hardly contribute (hey, I'm only 26 AND extremely shy), I am thoroughly enjoying my enrollment in So Cal Gossip 101.

Coreene played hooky from work on Friday, and as she mentioned before, does not have a computer at home (come on dearie, that is so 20th century!!!). I will be sure to thank her on Monday for her incredible, life-altering creation of BB perfection.

Taryn

[dublin]

Even all the way up in Washington, you are the QUEEN of California show gossip! You make this native Oregonian proud..... /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Lord Helpus]

Thanks for the link to LOHC. I noticed that it was last updated about a year ago--and with al the infighting between the H/J, eventers. dressage and lesson people, who knows if Mary von Zimmerman is still there?

I rode with Jim Dahlquist when I first moved to Portland from SF (married an Oregonian and thought it would be nice to live in the same state. He disagreed--wanted me to stay in SF and we would keep commuting both ways. Turned out he was probably right and the marriage would have lasted a lot longer, LOL. But that's another story...) I loved the indoor ring, but the politics between the different groups was just too much.

Some of Jim's customers bought a beautiful barn and he moved into it and took 90% of his people with him. I had left by then because of the aforementioned politics and the lack of turnout. (I had gotten into the babies off the track by then and needed turnout for them, so I moved to a barn in Sherwood.)

I certainly miss parts of Oregon life (Spring, summer and fall to name 3...) and the beach (we had a beach house in Gearhart that I miss a lot...) But Lexington, KY is "Horse capital of the World" and is a great place to live --or will be when it warms up...

[Lord Helpus]

I know she is Northern California, but she certainly showed all over the state (with Gary Ryman, among others --- and no mention of Gary, or was there?)

Remember some of Pat's wonderful horses?

Quail Run (from Flintridge) (aka "Bert" because his JC registered name was "Run Like El, Bert" after his sire, the immortal Elbert /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif))

Spend the Winter

pop into mind immediately.

[rusty]

I think Gary was mentioned a few pages back, way back.

[Coreene]

1. Merry works for someone I worked for for one week, years ago, where...

2. I met Beezer (fleeting meet, but I remember her as being very nice), years before I went to work in...

3. Irvine, where I am down the street from Chef

Haven't been at work since Thursday, so I must scroll through it all, but I'm thrilled to see that it all keeps going.

SUAVE RENO, I saw a few of your posts and there are more names that I haven't heard for years just flooding my memories!

EBAY LISTING HORSES MAGAZINE? I'd love the address of the lady selling them. Mine is coreene@yahoo.com and I can't wait to get my hands on some. Talk about all sorts of blasts...

[Bumpkin]

I believe I mentioned her wayyyyyyyyy back Pam M.
No one replied.
She use to have Richard Keller show her horses, long before Gary came out of juniours.
They would sometimes trailer up and show at the LWSC Fourth of July shows, at Bridle Trails State Park, along with lots of Arabian people from AZ and CA.
I saw a photo of a little girl showing Quail Run in a Quirk edition of HORSES.
But like you I have no idea what she is doing now. /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Changing that to "VAN up" as Pat had a lovely horse van with her stable name on it /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[This message was edited by Bumpkin on Feb. 19, 2001 at 12:51 PM.]

[Merry]

Yes, PamM, we "did" the whole Gary Ryman topic already, LOL! (But may he R.I.P.).

Should we publish an index to all the tidbits we've hashed out already? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

You know, SuaveReno, that whole Chris and lying about her age: I think that was one of the first shows I ever rode in, and it was filled with controversy!OOOHHH! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif How it foretold the intrigue I would later encounter in my horse show life! I just remember Chris's suspension with the AHSA as being all hush-hush, because remember, back in those days, practically all we had were little schooling shows OR the A shows. Bravo to you for turning her in! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Long, long after that, after she left Katrina's, I was working at the Warehouse restaurant in Newport. I did the books there, but I had to work on the floor one Sunday brunch, and there was Chris on what seemed like a "date" with this much older guy. It was kind of awkward, like, "Hi, remember me? I'm the one who inherited the fancy horse you used to ride before you were 8-balled by the AHSA?" /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

By the way, my sister Beezer is not cracking the whip over her reporters at the Times today, so she's not near a computer. I'm sure she'll check in on this thread tomorrow. I must go now and feed my koi and bullfrogs. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[dublin]

PamM, when did you train with him? A grade school friend of mine, Alexandra Zell (Zi Zi way back when....) rides with him and has the very nice hunter Lucky You. He was 14th in the national AHSA standings for open working hunter last year, and has won numerous championships in the green and open divisions at Indio over the last three years. He was in the ribbons at Indoors last fall as well. And Zi Zi has won a lot with him in the older A/A's. I just saw from HITS show results page that he was reserve champion Open Conformation hunter at Indio last week.

Did you know her? She started out riding at Portland Riding Academy as I did, then moved over to Lake Oswego Hunt Club, and then I lost touch with her. Ironically, she never showed as a junior, but it has been fun reconecting with her to an extent by following her current show career!

[Coreene]

Warehouse, former Merry Employer, is Former Coreene Client.

[Bumpkin]

hmmmm perhaps I should stick mine on eBay, and support the new saddle for Elliot fund.
They sell for quite a bit on there. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Coreene]

Bumpkin, or you can do a lump price for 'em and let those slavering potential buyers know and maybe buy the whole lot??? But if you go the eBay route, tip us off so we know when to bid.

[Coreene]

...would the very pretty colored horse on horsecity.com in the English grooming tips be The Beezer on One Of The Sister Horses? Darling horse.

[MO]

Melissa rode with him too. Or so she say's. Also i seem to remember her telling me she knows Jan Tops too. Humm?!

Sorry, I know it seems I'm all "hung up" on this MC subject..but you all mention these names that she has mentioned before, sooo.. Besides, the only other person I know of that lives in the sunshine state is Archie Cox.

Rusty: I'm getting things together for you. Do you want it all on CD or do you preffer video?

[SuaveReno]

Yes the Chris thing was pretty bad. I was friends withher sister Candy but after that she quit talking to me. Did she do much riding after that. I can't imagine her as one of Katrina's top riders is that at that particular show she was not turned out very well and irony of ironies she wins. But then again Eric Atterbury was the judge. Speaking of Eric, he used to be one of the top H/J's judges in the 30's 40's and 50's judging shows like the National Horse Show. But was a funny old coot tho'. He was a Brit with big pop-eyes and I always felt in was "in the cups" a little. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Quick question: Do any of you now ride at the Fairgrounds?

[SuaveReno]

Whatever happened to:
Caron Gilbertson, Susie Dickel, or Diane Dixon?

Can someone tell me about the early days of Kathy Hobstetter?

Speaking of Caron, I rode at Circle K for a litle while with Kenny about 78-79 and I remember when they were an "Item". It was so strange because when he was romancing Leslie Oertly, Caron must have been about 9 or so. So when I saw them together, i thought he's really robbing the cradle. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

He recently judged the OCHSA championship show and boy has he changed. Y'know how sometimes you remember people from a contex of about 30 years ago? Well that's what I did. He's really put on a lot of weight (I don't mean to be tacky. I was going to go up and reintroduce myself but I took a pass on it /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I saw Mousie at Indio a few weeks back and I thought she looked great.

[Coreene]

I'll have to check, but I think I had my old mare at Big K then. Or was it 80-81?

A few friends are at the Fairgrounds right now, but it wouldn't be my Top Five. I think I'm too spoiled with the trails behind HB to ever leave.

[N2Jumpers]

...with Hillary Ridland. I started with her back in 1995 and have been off/on since then. I had my last horse with her during 1999. Unfortunatley, my company decided it would be fun for me to travel non-stop beginning in January of 2000, so that put a damper on having a nice show horse!!

Now I ride with Chef! :-)

[JustaLurker]

Am I the only one sitting here twiddling my thumbs while waiting for the transition from page to page? I have a DSL connection and it should be reasonably fast, but it sure isn't. Is it because of the number of pages? Or, am I all wet?

If it might be time to create a new topic to continue with the marvelous exchange, but make it immediately recognizable to all of us fans who are hooked on the current topic, how about something like "Merry and Beezer Do California Gossip?"

[Chef Jade]

I rode at the OC fairgrounds over last summer. Actually N2Jumpers (who was my first and so far only BB Buddy to meet in person) hooked me up with Hillary Ridland. At that time I only had the one horse up in Agoura Hills so I had no one to ride during the week. They were short one person so I just hacked horses for her after work. Then they hired someone full time so my gig was up /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif But then I bought my other greenie who I keep at El Toro Stables.

Unfortunately N2Jumpers no longer rides there due to lack of horse. Which actually works out for me because I take full advantage of her horse status and have her attend to my beastly mare (who tried to kill both of us last week) when I am not around.

I also saw your post about OCF relocating to El Toro. Wondering where you heard that. Somewhere back on this thread I discussed my pipe dream of building another Eq. center in Irvine so I am trying to assess the OC stable supply and demand. Do you have any other details? Sources?

It's great to have another CA Clique member! Welcome!

[wtywmn4]

Pat Warren, had gotten into reining awhile back and built a to die for place in Az. Now hear she is moving back to Woodside. John French had come out to show her horses. He was taking care of the Woodside place, but believe he has moved next door?? Still showing and teaching many ami's. Don't know where Lynn is hanging her hat these days.

Kathy Hobstetter, moved to Colorado and taught there for a number of years. She has moved back to OC fairgrounds about 2 yrs ago and has a business there again.

[Coreene]

But I love this going on for about a bazillion pages - it's so fun!

Chef, remember the field behind UCI? Check on that one again. Proposed plans for more faculty housing seems to be on extended hold.

JUSTA, when did you last defrag? That should speed up your connection considerably if it has been a while. Also if you clean out the cookies every once in a while. Who is your IP?

[JustaLurker]

Somehow, as often happens, I get inadvertently logged off. I had just composed a profound reply but it wouldn't post as I had been bounced and didn't realize it /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

This is what I remember saying:

I defrag with Norton's Speed Disk twice a week.
My DSL connection is through my ISP, cruzio.com, to PacBell.
I ONLY have trouble with this topic, but it's probably one of the very few I read that are this long. I'll check out others (if I can find one that's pretty long).
I'll take a look at purging my cookies, but that always creates minor problems for me.

[wtywmn4]

Lurker, if you just go to the last page will it load easier? When you take the cookies out, go to temporary internet and do it there as well. It seems Windows loves to store these....

[dublin]

I believe I read that he is only working for Cathy Mendez now, still in the Portola Valley/Woodside area.

[SuaveReno]

I just love posting with you all (no pun intended). This is clearly the best forum I have been on in some time. It's great to remember to old days. You all are terrific!

Regarding the OC Fairgrounds proposed relocation, I heard that through Kathy Hobstetter and I am not quite sure where she got her information.

That would sure be nice if that happened. We really need a decent facility here in OC.

I don't know how many of you know Karen Lucian out there but I wanted to let you know that her mare, Utmost (Diva), whom she bought last year from Larry Gelfke at Indio, had to be put down as she shattered her pastern beyond repair while bucking on the lounge line. So incredibly sad, she was such a beautiful and talented animal. /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Chef Jade]

I am sitting here trying to finish all my work (OK really catch up on the BB) so I can ride but as I am getting ready to go I look out the window and it is RAINING! /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

I live in So Cal for a reason...no rain. I think the timing will work perfectly so I'll be hitting Indio w/o sitting on a horse over 3 weeks. I see my legs turning to Jell-O as I write!

/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[SuaveReno]

When are you going to Indio? I am going to be in the Desert this weekend at a convention but I will have pleanty of time to drop by.

Karen at Leather and Spice in customizing some children's chaps for my daughter, Kari who is now riding Cosmopolitan, Karen Lucian's old horse. I am living vicariously through her to some extent. Anyway, I am digressing, I need to pick her chaps up and would love to see you ride.

I was there week 1 & 2 (completely demolished my piggy bank /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif )John French rode my filly Alexa in the Baby Greens (she did really weel for not being quite the hunter type). Course, he could probably gallop in on a broom and win. I think he's a terrific rider.

/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Coreene]

John French could win standing outside the ring without being mounted. He is just SUCH a nice rider.

Coreene, who is just a few doors down from Chef, feels the same about the rain, which has begun at the exact moment that we are thinking about shoving off for the day.

[Merry]

So, let's continue. It's becoming humorous! I'm just oddly embarrassed that my name is associated with it. Funny thing is, we still haven't answered the question, "So, whatever happened to Kimmie Mc Donald, and does she still ride?" /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

However, we do know that Young Fleet is NOT related to Fleet Apple! /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Coreene: The photo of the pinto horse is indeed my pinto WB mare by Art Deco, which my sister now rides and shows. But the photo is of me on her back at one of her first shows. As for the Warehouse restaurant: Ah, the days of trying to explain to the customers that no, that's not a 4-inch cockroach crawling across your table, "It's a water bug that's come up from the docks." /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Suave: I believe we recounted our respective crushes on the young, svelte Kenny Nordstrom about 11 pages ago, LOL! Even Caron Gilbertson came up. I saw her at Indio 3 yrs. ago with Ronnie Freeman, another name from your past! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif When you have nothing else to do, start reading this thread from the beginning. It's a hoot!

And, just for MO's sake, will someone PLEASE say they either rode with or knew Melissa Cardenas?

Ah, I see it's raining here, too. Must go out to my arena and sprinkle fish food on the koi pond once again... /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Chef Jade]

I'll be at Indio weeks 5&6, so unfortunately not next weekend. And as luck would have it, I was in the desert last weekend for some down-time but it was the off-week.

And John is awesome. He rode my mare in the IHF last year. Hopped on a few minutes before the class and did an amazing job with a mareish (pig-headed) warmblood (thick-headed)and she's chestnut (overly sensitive)

I can probably pretty much sum up what all our rounds will look like:

-Trot in ring
- Add leg to canter, head goes up, mares neck resembles that of giraffe.
- Pick up wrong lead
- Canter to first fence, right to base, horse snaps knees and jumps beautifully.
- Spook in corner, head back up, now heading for the first line prematurely.
- See forward distance, gallop, chip, gallop, long to oxer.
- Get her attention back somewhat, canter nicely to next line, hit perfect distance, relax into stride.
- Realize no way in H*ll I am making it down that line with the stride I have, gallop, chip, add stride.
- Continue in simlar manner over last 2 lines
- Thank God I am still alive as I circle and show off beautiful trot. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[SuaveReno]

Before I hit the road from my ofice in Glendale and drive to Irvine (58 miles one way thank-you very much..... /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif ) Chef and Corrine I envy you so much to work in Irvine....

Merry: Believe it or not I did read the thread, I must apologize for the short term memory loss.

The same thing happened this past summer at the HB July Theme. I was riding in the nefarious Long Stirrup. My first round, I won....my second round I go back in there jump 2 jumps and all of a sudden i forgot the way (and y'know those courses ain't too hard). I looked at the judge and I said something like Opps! and we both started to laugh and I cantered toward the gate to find out from my trainer (who was sputtering at me) just where I should be going. But my brain literally went on vacation. I finshed up and thought to myself, "what I am reallly good at is sitting on my horse and yakking". Whay can't they have a class in that. We could call it the hack and yak class.

Ok obviously, I am brain dead now..thanks for indulging me.. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Justice]

Found ya! Hey girls, I know that at least one of you is supposed to be working! Merry, I am quite impressed with your ability to keep this thread going! I used to post here before they changed over the boards but life has gotten so crazy that now I just pop in on occasion to lurk and see what is happening in the world.

This rain is really a bummer - but I have to say it has worked well with my travel plans - I had to go out of town the last couple of weekends and I see that I didn't miss much quality time in the saddle.

So - I am officially submitting my resume to join the CA clique. . .okay - scratch that - one look at my resume and you'll never let me in. But I do have some valuable insights to offer! Such as - don't believe Chef's prediction of her mare's Indio debut. . .the girl has got no faith ; )

[rusty]

SuaveReno, I like the idea of the hack and yak class. I think it should be a whole division. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Something I could maybe be champion in. I am really good at tacking up my mare to ride and have a client show up and want to discuss whatever. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[SuaveReno]

Hack & Yak. Definitely a division.

back to the comments that you made regarding the Horse in the Grey Flannel Suit...at least your daughter prefers that to Barney. i can't tell you how many years I had to put up with that Purple Dinosaur. Was Kenny Nordstrom in that one too? I wasn't sure if he did the Dean Jones stunts. Do you remember th "Horsemasters"? I recently got a copy off of EBAY. What a stitch to watch it!!! Love those styles.

Tell me..I didn't see it in the thread..are you an Equine Vet? I would have loved to have been a vet but i couldn't get through the math. I count like trigger!

[Bumpkin]

I think JJ Smith did some of the stunts.
He was the South American rider that competes for the Championship at the WIH.
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[MO]

Suave and Rusty, Hack and yak? Ughhh, sounds like one just ate a huge, greasy burger then decided to ride in the heat of the day on a full stomach!

How about a HACK AND CHAT class?
And Barney, well, he's fading out fast. My daughter (2 1/2) was never into him. Thank God!

Merry, Thanks for the little Boost! But will we ever know if MCJ is all truth?! She sure does talk up quite an impressive "resume'". But if she was so successful, than why move to the Midwest?
"there isn't any cash to be made in the horse bus. out here girly girls." /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[SuaveReno]

The gal that has the back issues of HORSES is Sonya at CBStable@aol.com. was selling them on ebay but she will sell some directly. She has most of the issues from 1971 through all of 1976.

MO: Hack & Chat Definitely refined.....hmm let me think

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Greasy Burger + Hack & Yak? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif How about hack & Big Mac

Ok If you are having an affair with your trainer how about hack & shack

or, if your not, but terribly lonely it could be hack & whack

or, if you like to camp it could be hack & backpack

or, ?????? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I guess it's time for me to fade off here and go finish my book that I am reading called "Riders" It's about the International Gran Prix Circuit. The catch line on the cover is "Sex and Horses. Who could ask for more?"

Have any of you read it? It's a fun read /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[SuaveReno]

Bumpkin: JJ had a big part. I didn't realize that was him. Is he still around?

[rusty]

SuaveReno no I am not an Equine Vet. I spent to much time socializing in collegeand riding instead of what I was suppose to be doing. I think that was studying at least that was what my da was always asking about. Math Yuck!
I now work for a couple of the local equine vets as an assistant. It is a great job I get to be around alot of different types of horses and learn alot about lameness etc.

I don't remember Horsemasters. Was it another Disney movie or a TV show. I would like to see it.

Speaking of old horse things my husband brought home a record on Stock Seat Equatation by Ronnie Richards. Some one that works for him bought it at a record show or something like that. On the cover it lists the other one as Hunt Seat Equatation, I don't remember who taught on that one. Does any one else remember these records? I know there are a few of you who also remember what records are.

I have been blessed my daughter 2 1/2 also has been a deprived child she doesn't know what or who Barney is.

Mo if you can put all of that on a CD that will be great. I am sure I can get my husband to down load it for me. I am one step above computer illiterate. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Bumpkin]

No I heard JJ died in a car accident, while driving his Corvette someone ran into him. /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif


The Horsemasters is a great old 50's Disney movie with Annette Funicello!
There is a book also. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Merry]

I only have 6 articles to write for 3 different editors, but what am I doing? Playing on the BB! (Bad Merry, bad, bad, bad!)

Ah yes, dear JJ Smith. Wasn't he recalled with fondness on page 12 or 13? I'm telling you, we need an index!

And JUSTICE... geez, can I guess who you are??? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

As for the Hack and Chat class, may I remind you posters here that I may be the only living rider who has gone OFF COURSE in hunter hack? At Del Mar, no less? /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif It was at a glorified schooling show at Del Mar, a fundraiser for the Am. Trakehner Assoc., and Dale Pederson was the judge. My horse hacked beautifully. I go into the center and indeed begin chatting it up with my girlfriend. Then I realize I'm on the end of the line-up. Dale has me go first. Was I listening to instructions? Noooooo! I kind of thought something was a little odd when I jumped the oxer backwards /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif . When I got back to the line-up my friend whispers, "Cindy, you just went off course!" /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

I can't take anymore rain! Please, God, make it stop!

[Janet]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Speaking of old horse things my husband brought home a record on Stock Seat Equatation by
Ronnie Richards. Some one that works for him bought it at a record show or something like that. On the cover it lists the other one as Hunt Seat Equatation, I don't remember who taught on that one. Does any one else remember these records? I know there are a few of you who also remember
what records are. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

We had that record (the hunt seat one)!!

I am not at all sure who it was, but if I had to pick a name I would say Jimmy Williams.

[rusty]

Merry I agree this rain has to stop. I am going to have to start teaching swimming lessons instead of riding lessons. We are all water logged. How ar ethe koi doing? are the growing to fit the size of their large containers. I am assuming that your puddles are noe the size of small lakes.

[Coreene]

When you're done with Riders (which Dublin is also reading), I will extend you the same offer I did to her which is that you can borrow the rest of the series, which sits quite near your Irvine home but far from the Glendale office:

Rivals (television and some hunting)
Polo (duh)
The Man Who Made Husbands Jealous (National Hunt)
Apassionata (racing and music)
Score (three day and mystery)

All by Jilly Cooper. Then y'all can borrow my video of the Riders miniseries, which is not very good but extremely pretty. Taryn gets it this week.

Then, when you're done with that, you can borrow French Relations and Well Groomed by Fiona Walker, both of which are filled with Jilly Cooper type characters and the series is primarily three day eventing.

[Coreene]

1. is Linda Blair still showing in California? Who is she riding with?

2. remember Christine Lund, who used to be on Channel 7 in LA? (The one Don Henley sang about in that song "Dirty Laundry" - "the bubble-headed bleach blonde who comes on at five"). Saw her showing at HB several times but it's been a few years.

[dmj]

I too heard the rumor re: El Toro and OCF, from a friend who boards there and is friends w/ the (former?) center manager. As someone who used to keep my horse there, I try to stay informed. I thought that they were going to go ahead w/ the airport sometime down the road, so it does seem strange that they would relo the Fgrounds there.

[Coreene]

New Hack and Chat careers:

Hack and Flack - for PR people
Hack and Hack - for broken down journos
Hack and Black - for fashion mavens
Hack and Track - for joggers
Hack and Stack - for the well endowed
Hack and Crack - druggies on horseback

[SuaveReno]

Thanks Coreen for the offer to borrow your other Jilly Cooper books. The video sounds perfect too. Rainey Friday nite slumber party with popcorn.

Some of the Horsey Moms (who also ride) out at the barn have thought that it might be a good idea to ressurect the slumber party for those of us older who still feel 15 /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif We could watch all the horsey movies we loved as kids... /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Do any of you remember the movie Gallant Bess about a horse during WWII? It was a real tear-jerker but what a great film. i have been tryingto locate it and haven't been successful.
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Also many thanks for adding to the hack & chat list /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I have been chuckling while at work!!!

Speaking of which...I should probably get back to doing. Got these horses to support...

[Merry]

As for Linda Blair, I used to show in her AO classes out here when she owned God Bless (this roany bay). Then there were the ah, "dark days" of her life. Last I saw/heard of her she was on the east coast, with hunters. She was on 20/20, or something like that, being interviewed about the sordid horse murdering for insurance $ scandal.

I saw Christine Lund at the Orange Co. championsip show in 1999, so I think her kid still rides (I think ponies).

Bree Walker, the newscaster with the different hand/finger "arrangement" (I don't know what the PC term is anymore) /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif took lessons out at Paddock a couple of years ago with my friends, but I don't think she's doing the news out here, so maybe she and her family have moved.

Gadzooks, am I a veritable gadfly, or what? I had no idea I knew/met so many horse people!

[Coreene]

Coreene, with a bit of time on her hands this a.m. before having to deal with a fruitcake demanding ciient who really should jump off a cliff (client, not Coreene), suggests going to:

www.half.com (http://www.half.com)

...for old videos and books. This is in addition to (on the book front) bibliofind.com, bookfinder.com and abebooks.com. And if you need something foreign, go to paperbackshop.co.uk. All these companies happily have way too much of my money, but my library stays happy.

Didn't know Bree Walker rode. She was married to Jim Lampley (sp?) the sportscaster. I always thought she was great. Plucky gal of the You Go Girl variety.

[Merry]

Yes, coreene, she was married to Jim Lampley. Why do I think they got a divorce??? Crikey, now I'm up to date on the life of L.A.'s newscasters? No wonder all the stuff I once knew about Shakespeare, Milton and the rise and fall of Constantinople has been crowded out of my brain! /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

[Beezer]

Eyes bleary ... breath gasping ... Beezer makes a valiant attempt to catch up. She is amazed. She is in awe. She needs time to digest all of this.

But she does have three quick thoughts:

1) SuaveReno: A belated welcome. Loved "Gallant Bess." Saw it eons ago when I was home sick from school. (Hey! I said "eons ago"! LOL) Would you consider just GIVING me that really cute bay horse you posted a picture of? Or maybe trading him/her for a GORGEOUS but slightly off-kilter pinto warmblood mare?? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (KIDDING, Merry!)

2) I'll take "legendary western pleasure horses of decades past for $500": Sen Gee Bar (or however it was spelled). LOVED him.

3) OK, Coreene. I think I know where we worked, ever so briefly, together. Did you work in the production department? Sales? Will the REAL Coreene please stand up?? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Coreene]

Beezer, I worked at HIX for one week in early 1985 and walked out. Some lady called Sharon was head of circ and some gal called Beth was just starting, too. I had just moved back from a year in England doing PR and couldn't decide what to do.

But we did meet then. A gal I was in college with worked there as well. I remember her saying her career goal was to "get as high in the company as Beezer," but of course she used the real name. I can't remember her name. Short and blonde. She was in ed. I was supposed to be a rep and then they stuck me in circ.

[JustaLurker]

Okay, Merry and MO, I'll admit to knowing Melissa, however not well, but I was pretty into the horse owner mode back then so saw her at shows often. She isn't really a flake and probably isn't actually lying, only perhaps stretching the truth a bit.

She was the trainer for a private barn, Rancho Loma Prieta, up in the Santa Cruz mountains, very near the epicenter of the 1989 earthquake. The facility was owned by the Reed family. For some time they also boarded a small, select group of outsiders, but eventually did away with that due to insurance considerations and reverted to a strictly private barn.

Now you have to remember that I'm having lots of "senior moments" so don't remember all I want to from those days. I did drive by there on the way to the barn Christmas party (the hostess lives just down the road from the old Rancho Loma Prieta) and it looked a bit inactive, but still a lovely facility.

Anyhow, the mother and 2 daughters rode -- their names all escape me. They had a bunch of nice hunters and equitation horses. Melissa trained them all well and she did some of the open class riding also. The barn was pretty successful in those days, and those were the days that the Rancho Murieta teamster-built facility was in its hey day. Larry Langer was putting on lots of A shows there then.

Okay, onward. The Reeds eventually did branch out into jumpers, basically for Melissa to show, if I'm remembering correctly. Though I can't remember any of the names, Melissa did quite well with them as she is (was?) a good rider. I think a jumper name or two was mentioned several pages back and they sounded right on.

If it's of great interest, I can do some more digging (taking notes this time) once Indio is over and maybe come up with some more juicy tidbits.

[Coreene]

Two weeks ago I had to print out pages 1-16 of this thread for a friend from the barn who is Of Our Ilk but computerless. Tonight I shall print 17-29.

There goes Brazil.

[Coreene]

Hack and Back - for those "to hell and beyond" show moments

Hack Attack - when your horse does the uncontrollable flat race during "Canter, canter your horses please"

Hack Snack - very long line up in front of the judge moments; chat optional

Hack Lack - one direction of the ring, halfway around at each gait; total ripoff of entry fee

Hack Tack - what fell into the arena and is now stuck in your horse's hoof

Hack Smack - faceplant in front of the judge

Hack Rack - horse decides to do a four-beat canter

Hack Jack - little cowboy hat-wearing decoration you get in the drive-thru on your way to the show

[Coreene]

Hack Pack - everyone crowded in one part of the arena, too stupid/obstinate to circle

Hack Back - that rare back up the horse while lined up in front of the judge

Hack Zack - the one guy riding in the flat class

Hack Smack - junkie flatter

[SuaveReno]

Thanks so much for your comments about "Reno". he's a keeper! He is a cutie and takes very good care of these old bones over fences. I got him last year in Germany and he's just 7. I am hoping that my daughter will mature into him and he can become her medal horse. At Indio we won the maiden EQ championship week 2. What a stitch. All the ladies in the class were really sweet and we're all about the same level. A major benchmark for me this year was to leave the ring after completing the course the without feeling nauseous /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif It's H*ll getting old. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I hope I can start to do the "Adult " fences this year like the rest of you. I feel realy behind the curve. When I was at July Theme this year, I was studying the long stirrup course over and over (I know...how hard can that be), when one gal walked up to me, introduced herself and asked me if this was my first show.

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However, I do have a darling 17h filly that John French showed successfully at Indio. We took her there to sell but my trainer didn't market her. /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

So if any of you want a terrific up and comer please email me and I'll give you specifics. Heck, I'll even cut out my trainers commission!!!LOL /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Really!

[SuaveReno]

Coreen: That is just the best! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I couldn't stop laughing /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[N2Jumpers]

... Chef has me convinced that I need a "project" horse! My office is now in Irvine too, very convenient to OC barns. Tell us more about this filly! And put some pics of Reno up!

Anne

[Merry]

coreene, you really must get a hobby! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif By the way, are you highlighting any of the names of the copies of this thread that you're printing? Or you could interject remarks in the margin, like, "Here's where JJSmith comes up for the first time..."

You know, Suave, too bad my sister, Beezer, just bought a house in Yorba Linda, as your Lexi mare would probably suit her jeesstt fine!"Alex, I'll have 'The Top Ten Reasons Why Your Husband Leaves You Due to Horse Obsessions' for $500." /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Coreene]

Well ... while here I'm acutally emailing updated information to about 900 people at the same time, so since I can't do anything else AND because I was on a mini-roll here, I just had to share why I am not a comedian or poet.

[Beezer]

but I must make a wee adjustment ... the Hack and Jack MUST be for the hacks with Jack Russell accompaniment, says Beezer, already thinking she has a lock on this with her two ADORABLE and PERFECT (QUIET, Merry!) JRTs ... in fact, they frequently go for horseback rides anyway, so they might as well have their own class!

As for our job paths crossing ... am thinking the small blonde must have been either Ginny or Betsy. Do you remember Penny? Linda? Oh ... the dregs of my past you are forcing me to remember! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Lord Helpus]

Rancho Loma Prieto. The Reeds. THAT's IT! That is the farm name and the family name I could not remember... And it was/is near the epicenter of the big earthquate and was also ravaged by the big fire...

That is where I went horse shopping and then subsequently took an out of town friend to look at horses. And Melissa was the trainer and was showing the Reed's jumpers.


YES! NOW I REMEMBER! The fog has lifted! I can see again!

[Coreene]

...tells Beezer she can't remember the gal's name, only that she also did Magazine Journalism at CSULB, was short and blonde, and was never one of Coreene's favorite people (the week down there left a very bad taste in Coreene's mouth and she was doubtless traumatized by the entire experience).

[Beezer]

And with a sudden (and nowadays RARE) flash of remembered insight, she discounts her previous suspects. Neither Ginny nor Betsy went to Long Beach, but more to the point, they were great fun and Beezer can't imagine them annoying anyone (except their boss ... which would have been ... hmm ... ME! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) But I've revisited the timeline you gave. And I think I now have the correct trauma-causing person. And I am sorry.

Another western name from the past (hitching along with Merry's post about the Chex horses) ... Buddy Ebsen's daughters had one, named, appropriately enough, given Dad's TV show of the time, Barnaby Chex. And Ronnie Richards ... what a great name from the "dark ages"! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Merry]

Ah, the western people had all the fun even back then. Remember when it became "all the rage" for the western pleasure and trail mares to have a "diamond" earring pierced into their ear? Seriously, Linda Baker was I think the first. She rode a fancy chestnut--excuse me, sorrel-- mare in trail, I can't remember the name... OH! It was a Cynthia Cantleberry horse... and it had a diamond earring! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Beezer]

Dang ... and all we had was that funny mare with the "tooth buds" in her ears that dripped that goo....

[SuaveReno]

Beezer, Suave Reno grew up with Bonnie and Kathy Ebsen! Kiki was pretty small then and Susanna didn't really like the horse thing. They had a house on Balboa Island and we all rode at Al's in Corona del Mar. Their Mom, Nancy used to scare the living daylights out of me!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

From what I understand, Kathy is into dressage and Bonnie still likes the Western horses. I think they are in Arizona and I think Bonnie is an editor of an equestrian magazine.

Small world /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[SuaveReno]

Thanks Anne, for asking about Lexie. She is a wonderful filly. We have brought her along slowly and carefully. We have just started her over fences and she will be shown this year at Indio in the Baby Greens which has a height of 2'6" to 2'9". Alexa is a dappled chestnut with 4 white socks and a white blaze. She is 3 and 1/2 and 16.3 hands. Actually I think she is closer to 17 now. She is a Swedish Warmblood and registered Rheinland Phalz-Saar. She has three smooth gates and is very steady and level-headed for her youth. I have attached a few
pictures of her /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Hope you like them

John French showed her successfully and she received 1 First 2 Seconds 2 Thirds, 2 Forths, and 1 Fifth and ! Sixth in the Baby Greens Week 1 /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

As you can probably tell, I am in marketing and I just love this filly /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BTW she is so calm that my 10 year old rides her bare back (hack & bareback)

[SuaveReno]

Here are the latest from Indio. Sorry but I don't know how to upload more than one at a time. /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[SuaveReno]

Here's a different view /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[SuaveReno]

Did I forget to mention that she is very reasonbly priced and completely sound /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[MO]

You recieve a STAR for the day (evening)!! Finally someone came up with solid facts about Melissa! Bravo!!
She is now remarried and frequently talks of her California day's. However I do think she probably stretches the truth a little. (Not as BIG a WIG as she wished perhaps?)
Well, I haven't spoken to her in a while. She did just a couple of things that I felt were not handeled properly and truthfully not in good taste. But she is a good rider and trainer, so, once spring comes, I don't know if we'll ride with her again? We don't have much to choose from out here.
I do have a nice 17.3 hand Han. (1986) that she rode in modified's that can go on to do GP's or High Jr./Ao's or Eq too for that matter, if any one is interested. He was one of the matters that we, (my husband and I), felt was handled in poor taste. So he's back with us, but we really have no time for him. He deserves someone who can take him on and show and win!!! He too is 100 % sound! Gorgeous bay, 4 white socks, thick wavey tail, star and snip, turns over behind, dwells in air, trained up to 4th level dresage. "Grandeur" is his name, but we call him "Huey". He's a cutie!
If anyone is interested e-mail me. I'm already getting a disk together for "Rusty" on my TB/Han. mare. I can get one made for him too. No trainer $ since we pulled him out.

*MO* /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Bumpkin]

I think her name was Stacy.
And Georgina Guy was the daughter of someone, but I cannot recall if it was Rosemarie from the Dick VanDyke show or Rosemary Clooney. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[NancyL]

That was the day I first met my now husband!

And... it was the day of our first argument -- "No, the Cypress structure is NOT part of the Bay Bridge" said I.

One point for me; none for him.

[Chef Jade]

N2Jumpers deseperately needs a horse so we can can get her out of the Hack and Lack classes (for those with no horse)

[Merry]

So, Suave, want to just donate your Lexi mare to the Calif. clique and we can all just take turns catch-riding her? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I know my sister is just drooling over her right now, even as I type...

Ah, the Calif. western show girls. I really think we huntseat riders got a much better education than the riders of today, because we had to sit in the grandstands at the A shows and watch all sorts of classes: stockseat medals, reining classes, trail, and oh, the lively and thrilling saddleseat and fine harness classes. Didn't you just love the 5-gaited events, when the announcer would triumphantly shout, "Now, Rack! Rack on!" About that time our horses would bolt from the in-gate back to the show barns! /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Beezer: Not only did we have the mare with the toothbud in the ear and the draining channel of goo, but what about your mare, who, at her ripe old age STILL will not let anyone TOUCH her once fungus-infested left ear? "Warning! Your hands are approaching the ear zone. Warning!"

[SuaveReno]

As I mentioned, my marketing side takes over and I kinda go overboard. I guess I was over-compnesating for the lack of effort my trainer has put into getting her sold. Sorry, I am just enthusiastic. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Does anyone remeber seeing Noel Harrion (son of Rex andstart of the Girl from U.N.C.L.E.) at the shows? I used to see him at the Fullerton Recreational Riders shows all the time.

I remember Stacy and Georgiana. CeCe Durante was related to Jimmy Durante, I think and Ce Ce Presle was Cecil B. De Millne's grandaughter. She had a terrific grey horse. I can't remember his name tho'

[Coreene]

And Mo's jumper sounds wonderful, too. Too bad that right now my wallet does not open far enough for a second horse. Then again, I have no time...

On the memory front, who remembers Robert Ridland's Boy Colonial? A jumper in the mid to late 70s (not exactly sure about the year).

A guy at our barn announced yesterday that he was looking for a very tall (because he is 6'3"), very broke jumper that he could do the AAs with and doesn't want to pay more than $12,500. I pass this on without comment and because you just never know.

[Lord Helpus]

Waht is John french's deal as a private trainer for Cathy Mendez? I thought that meant that he would only work for her---- but if he is riding your horse (which I can see that he obviously is...) then he must have some sort of side training thing going on? Or does he just ride other horses at shows, and only has Cathy Mendez' horses at home?

[Coreene]

The new Typo Circuit, whoops I mean Show Circuit, has ads from other clients with John as trainer.

[dublin]

PamM, did you see my followup post about Jim Dahlquist -- I think it kind of got buried a few pages back....

And does anyone remember Donna Storkan, or her brother Tom? He had Mississippi Mud, a nice hunter which he subsequently sold to Marty and Nancy Kraemer, who rode with me up in Oregon. (No, not the Southern California Cramers/Kraemers discussed previously). I met Donna when she was up competing at the Oregon State Fair, and we stayed in touch for several years afterwards. Very nice girl.

I can't believe it, but nonhorsey Mr. Dublin has a connection to this topic! When he was going to UCLA, Noel Harrison was in one of his classes....

Is it a small world, or what??? /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[SuaveReno]

Maybe I got the spelling right this time.

John just did some catch riding for me as for his arrangement with the Mendez's, I gotta think that he might have some side bar arrangements on the side, however I can't know for sure if he has placed all his eggs in one basket so to speak. He's so incredibly tallented and in demand...

What was the name of Robert Ridland's junior mount. I remeber a grey but that's about it.

[dublin]

The Winter issue of 'Typo Circuit' - how appropriate /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif - just arrived in the mail yesterday.... Now if they would just send the Fall, Medal Finals and Holiday issues they owe me *sigh*

You can sign me up for the 'Hack and Lack' club as well!!

[SuaveReno]

Thanks for the kind word about Lexie. She's a real personality kid and for the first few years of her life considered herself the family dog following everyone all around.

Is anyone interested on a calaborative hunt team if there is a class at one of the localor regional shows? I am moving up to bigger jumps so I think I could hang with 'ya /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I have an assortment of horse colors to work with (black/brown, bay and of course chestnut.) I think it would be a lot of fun /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Beezer]

Beezer knows this one!! CeCe Durante was Jimmy's (adopted) daughter. Beezer is snotty enough to admit that one of her fondest memories of those miserably cold and rainy shows at Santa Barbara was seeing one of her grand horses (Royal Blue, maybe??) give her a mud bath. /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

CeCe Presley was (or at least I vaguely remember this) married to the developer. For some reason I also think there was some sort of political connection (that would be elected, not show-ring /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif ) I also remember the gray but not the name ... but I bet Merry does! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

From that same era: Linda Starkman and Castaway Teddy. That was the coolest little horse!

Merry: We can be such dopes. We know someone very well whom I am sure SuaveReno also knows. Think of the previous owner of that dear sweet mare afflicted by the ear fungus.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[SuaveReno]

Since Suave is leading a really incredible life (ha! LOL yesterday the water heater ruptured in in the am and I discovered is the pm, as I sloshed my way to the kitchen) /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Anyway, I should be working on the environmental manual I am writing (I envy you real writers), so every few paragraphs i have to come back to the board and laugh and wish I was at the barn. I mean, just what can one say about underground storage tanks that hasn't been said before, like pull 'em up! /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Thanks for keeping me going through my mundane real job. What was al lthis college hype about a satisfying Career /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif LOL! If any of you have a satisfying career will you hire me. i make a good cup of java and can be amusing to have around /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

So who is this person I might know. How about a hint????

[Coreene]

Dublin, I'm looking at the Fall/Holiday issue, which I'll send to you today. I'll let you and SuaveReno fight it out re who gets 'Rivals' and 'Polo' first (the first two sequels to 'Riders'). Bumpkin, do you want the newest Typo Circuit? Then I'll send you the one I got for Dublin.

I, too, am so glad that my journalism degree is used for such greedy pursuits as ad sales and such delightful pursuits as internet blab. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[wtywmn4]

Bumpkin, Georgina is now Rodriguez, and yes was Rosemarie's daughter. She still rides and shows, I think reining.. Has some very nice horses.

You can't leave this thread for a moment Beezer. It takes days to catch up!

Suave, very nice mare. Nice and flashy too, one of my fav's with all that chrome. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Those Hack & Yak's are hysterical coreene. By the way, does anyone else see the big 50 looming up? (not the year, pages)

[dublin]

Coreene,
I have Rivals aka Players on loan from bumpkin, so definitely lend it to SuaveReno. Thanks again for sending the Typo Circuit, that is just too nice of you! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[This message was edited by dublin on Feb. 21, 2001 at 03:01 PM.]

[MO]

Pretty impressive web page!! One Question, in the photo of you and Bumpkin, who is who?
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Bumpkin, sorry for the sale plug. I won't do it again. Love your web page too!!! Do you know Linda Allen? She lives in the Philly area of PA. and does a very nice JRT Rescue. I have rescued quite a few critters myself; JR's, boxers, labs, equines and kitties of course. Ciao! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Coreene]

Now I know what y'all look like. Coooooool!

I am staring 40 in the face. November. This totally contradicts with the Guns n Roses CD in the car.

[Chef Jade]

SuaveReno - Funny you mention them b/c I took one look at your Lexi and thought she would make the perfect match with my girl. Does she happen to resemble Dr. Evil? Because Jade would certainly look like Mini Me next to her...

[dublin]

bumpkin is the redhead, I'm the blond (NOT my most flattering photo...), the saddle is my sister's 25 year old Hermes, which bumpkin bought. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Coreene]

Is Jade the monster in El Toro? What a cutie patootie. Find one more and you can ride in the triplets class.

Hack and Trois

[SuaveReno]

Groovey Babby!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Dr Evil and Mini me....has possibilities... /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I agree with Coreene definitely a cutie patootie! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[JustaLurker]

MO, it would seem to me that using Melissa for what she's good for, training and riding, but not transacting any buy/sell/breed business with her might just be in your best interests. Since good trainers/riders seem to be in short supply in your part of the country, I'd sure give that some thought. I'd hate to see you burned again, but since you want help and Melissa seems to still be a good rider and trainer, you may be cutting off your nose to spite your face in this case.

Being from Western Michigan -- it seems like that was a past life -- I can understand that good horse facilities might be few and far between. Winter sure can dampen the enthusiasm!

Cheers, Maggi

[Merry]

Okay, CeCe Presley's gray horse was named... coming to me... it was an ocean-themed name... Wave something? Tide something? Silver something? Ah geez, someone smack me in the head...Down, Beezer! Not you!

Oh! Was it High Tide?
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Hunt teams: I can ante up a plain sandy-bay, very lopey pace. Anyone?

Now, for my delve into the horse-shopping-swapping foray: This girl in our trainer's barn, who's is 13, is just the cutest kid and a naturally talented rider; excellent eq., good leg, soft hands. Solid intermediate level. She needs an older eq/medal horse, one that ideally has a lot of miles, and is dropping down a peg from the 3'6" and will be solid in the 3foot medals for a while. She does mostly county and B shows. Think "old campaigner" here, although not a complete cripple. Anyone from say, Fresno south have anything to divvy up? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[Coreene]

Merry, Ginny may have two now. Drop her a note if you haven't already.

I, never a mare type, would just love to have both of these pretty chestnut gals. Duo-team, you could change their names to Ashley and Mary-Kate and show them flat as Hack Pack.

[Lord Helpus]

DA Bear - man (said with the same inflection as if you were talking about the Chicago Bears: "DA bears"). Finally time I stuck in a picture of him. He was feeling neglected, what with the new fillies having their pics posted and "da Bear" being ignored.

He even has the same chestnut front leg as Lexi (and his blaze is quite wide -- it just doesn't show in this picture).

There! Now just a pic of Mikey thrown in at the correct moment, and I believe that all my kids will have been posted...

[Beezer]

Please! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let me be the one to smack Merry upside the head!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Particularly since she didn't mention the person that we, Suave and the Mizzy Hoy have in common.

[Bumpkin]

Wasn't the the name of Robert Ridlands grey?
Most likely from the Beatles movie HELP.

[This message was edited by Bumpkin on Feb. 23, 2001 at 01:45 AM.]

[dublin]

It looks reddish in the photo though, bumpkin....(and after all, we unfortunately had way too quick a first meeting)

You will be my inspiration for shedding some pounds as well! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Pam, your Bear has such a lovely head. I really like the slight dish and blaze, reminds me of my Maggie.

[Beezer]

Please ... what is the address for the Dublin/Bumpkin Web page/photo?? (And no, Merry, it is NOT that Beezer has no work to do. It is just that Beezer is BORED with the work she has to do. /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif )

[C&C]

Did any of you notice that we did break the 5 digit mark in the 'views' column. 10,000+ !!! I am sure that there are many like myself that don't always have something to say, but HAVE to check in at least once a day to check the latest chapter!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[dublin]

It's actually just a photopoint album, and is listed on my profile page, she says, *blushing*...

[Coreene]

Dublin's photo album is BRILLIANT and it's filled with all sorts of simply GLORIOUS photos.

Bumpkin, congrats! Any secrets?

[Beezer]

That is a GREAT collection of photos, Dublin! What lovely horses. You should be very proud. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[MO]

Well, I think red or auburn or strawberry blonde or whatever "hue" is something to be proud of. My daughter has gorgeous strawberry blonde hair that most woman pay $150.00 out of a bottle for!!! So, please take dublin's typo as a compliment! By the way, do you know Linda Allen (JRT rescue)?

Oh wait, U2 are on the Grammy's right now...

Okay I'm back. They're FABULOUS!!!

JUSTALURKER, do you mind if I e-mail you? Just a few more "issues" to clarify. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Merry]

PamM: I love your "Bear". Now that, to me, is my idea looks-wise, of a hunter. And just colorful enough to be snazzy.

Coreene: I e-mailed Ginny about the horse, but haven't heard back. Maybe you'll see her and let her know I'm not some nut case? No wisecracks, people! /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Beezer, yes, Suave knew Jeanne Stevens, from whom we got Hoyden. I'm so ahead of you, sis. We've been dishing stuff via e-mail, nanner-nanner-nanner!

[JustaLurker]

MO, e-mail away. Perhaps the exchange *should* be taken offline.

Cheers, Maggi

[AAJumper]

I too noticed the five digit number for the view column! Amazing! I always look for this topic first when I log on because it is so entertaining! I just wish I had something to contribute, but alas, I just haven't been around the show world very long! Although I've been riding for 12 years, I really didn't start showing seriously until about 2.5 years ago. I'm enjoying the memories vicariously though! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[SuaveReno]

PamM Bear is just darling! There's nothing like a chestnut with lots of Chrome!

Dublin: Your pictures are terrif /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I enjoyed every one. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Especially your junior pics! I'll take you up on the book loan when you get around to it.

It seemed like Ce Ce Presleys horse's name began with a "p" but I am not sure. It reminded me of Chesterton. Does anyone know what happend to Troubadour, Patti Huddleston's old horse? He was so cool. I think he was one of the first warmbloods that I ever saw as compared to our slender TB's.

Beezer: I remember Jeanne Stevens. Is she still riding? When I went to college, she was having quite a junior career. There was also another girl who rode at Winrock, whose last name was Admundson. She would have been a contemporary of Jeanne's.

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[SuaveReno]

WOW!!!!Loved your website and all your pictures from Indio and the other shows. Really impressive /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

How many shows do you go to per year? I did about 4 A shows and about 8 B last year. I really needed tons more training. SuaveReno stumbles over long stirrup fences but were moving up...finally /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

You've given me a lot of inspiration /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[SuaveReno]

Your JR's are sooo cute. When I was at Indio weeks one and two there was a person there selling ton's of terriers. I don't know if anyone else saw him or not, but I thought the best way to get a JR is to go to a breeder.

Do you handle your own dogs or do you have a handler when you show? I showed SCWT's for awhile until my male short circuited and had to be put down. He started getting pretty aggressive abd the final straw was that he attacked my older daughter. Not too seriously but it was just the beginning. I came to find out that his grandfather had to be put down as well for a bad temperment. JR's seem really cute and not to aggressive. Would that be right?

Beezer: Do you raise JR's too? /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[AAJumper]

My old horse, Tulie, was quite photogenic so it seemed like we'd always get at least one good picture per show. And of course, I can never resist ordering pics! I was at Indio week 2 and they got a really good pic of me and Cypress over a really pretty light blue/yellow/white oxer and I think I will order it when I go back for week 6. Oh, by the way...I saw that you mentioned Karen at Leather and Spice earlier. She is SO nice...we (my trainer and barnmates - we tend to travel in a herd) always go visit with her whenever we see her at a show. Inevitably, one of us buys something while we're there! She had some nice Van Teal huntcoats on sale that I bought from her (in November), and I love the Brighton belts she has.

I go to 4-5 week long shows per year. Last year we did Indio for 2 weeks, then Memorial Day Classic at LAEC, then Blenheim in July, then the National Preview at LAEC...no small shows in between, though. This year I'd like to go to Showpark at the end of April (a source of contention, since my friend wants to go to the Del Mar National the next week, and I don't want to go to that one), Memorial Day at LAEC, Blenheim in July, Jumping Festival in September, and the Preview and LA National at LAEC. Then maybe a few Gold Coast shows in between. I have to plan my schedule carefully because of work and having to take time off. But I made sure to put a pic of Cypress in my office at work, so that when I am really frustrated w/my job, I can remember why I'm there! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Merry]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> "Beezer, do you raise Jack Russell Terriers too?" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh God, perish the thought that she should acquire more of them. /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

[AAJumper]

But I figured since so many of you seem to remember horses from several years ago, maybe one of you would know my old horse, Whitney. I only knew her by that name, and once someone told me that they thought her show name may have been Steal It. Supposedly, according to my old trainer, she was a very successful hunter and was some PCHA reserve champion at some point in time. She would have been born in the late 60's/early 70's, and thus shown in the 70's/early 80's, as we estimated she was in her early 20's when I had to put her down. I only had her for a year, and she was an old school horse by the time I got her. But apparently she was in Mike Edricks barn for some time, and I believe she may have done the 4' hunters at some point in time. Anyway, here's a pic of her, although she looks like any typical TB...no outstanding features or anything. Anyone have any vague recollection of a horse by the name of Steal It?

[Coreene]

I just logged on and noticed via eBay that someone has outbid me on the Horses magazine auction that closes this afternoon. I am crestfallen. But I will laugh when I go to up my bid in a sec if I discover it is another one of us...

[Merry]

AAJumper, I don't recall your horse, but I'll bet some people will if it was that successful of a show horse.

No, coreene, I am not bidding on the HORSES magazines. But you go for it, girlfriend!

By the way, are any of you going to the Mary's sale in Del Mar March 2-4? It's their annual tent sale. This'll be our 5th yr. going. Beezer and I plan weeks in advance. Queen of Horse Show Moms will once again grab a table next to the free food stand, sit there and whine and moan and make faces at us each time we go back into the store "for one last look". Of course, the line to check out weaves back and forth like the crowd-control lines at Disneyland's Space Mountain, but what an event!

Two years ago we ran into Jeanne Stevens there!LOL!

Last year we saw Sandi Nisson!

Who knows, maybe this year we'll meet up with Bob McDonald! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Beezer]

quote:
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"Beezer, do you raise Jack Russell Terriers too?"
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Alas, no. I just have two (long "fixed") full-brothers (littermates) who are more my kids than any kids could have been ... if that makes ANY sense at all. /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif And despite the razzing Merry gives them, let me point out that she is the one who always wants them to go to shows, gives them rides in her precious truck and buys them presents every Christmas ... like a good aunt should. They are finally settling into middle age (kinda like their mom /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) so are not as entertaining as they used to be but they are far easier to live with.

Since I can't imagine life without a JRT or two in it, I'll always have 'em. But I'd be the first to say that they are just NOT the dog for everyone and, yes, absolutely ... get one only from a good, reputable breeder. Personally, I'm of the belief that it should be someone who believes in the principles of the JRT Club of America but that's a debate for another thread. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Now back to our regular programming....

Suave ... Isn't Jeanne a kick? I really like her. She was more Merry's "contemporary" than mine but I remembered the name and, like Merry said, wound up buying one of my favorite horses from her. Last I heard, she was giving up her training operation and aiming to get her amateur status back. It was a question of her just not having enough time for either the students or her family. Haven't talked to her in quite a while, though, so can't swear to what her current plans are.

Another name from the past, and one that ties several strings of the thread together: Nikki Smith. Rode with Russell at Winrock. Bought a very pricey prospect from Bob that turned out to be a lovely ... under saddle horse.

[C&C]

Did she end up riding with Bob? Very petite and short woman with two pretty fancy horses?? OR am I making things up again.

[Chef Jade]

Great Pics!

Its fun to see Tulie jumping big jumps! He is so cute! I'll be at the barn on Saturday if you want to come for a visit...I'll be there between 11:00-1:00 or so.

Should I rub it in that I'll be riding even if it rains? I have to admit having the indoor is nice, even if the rest of the place isn't all that spectacular.

[wtywmn4]

PamM, Bear is one very NICE horse!! What's his job? Sorry, have to wipe the drool off of my chin.

Suave that person you saw selling the JR puppies is the one we've been alluding to. No papers, shots are questionable and price is outrageous.

[Lord Helpus]

ceCe Pressley's nice gray horse was named _______. Damn. I can picture them in Horses -- I can SEE the horse and Cece with her red hair. I just cannot SEE the name....

Da Bear's job in life is to pack beginners around -- anything up to 2'6". He is a total point and shoot horse (he also wins all the beginner rider under saddles). He is a dear. But he is a tad too short strided to do the 3' -- or, should I say that he can do it (and win) with a pro who can nail the first jump and keep on truckin' down the lines (he jumps like a pony --knees under his chin /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ). But with an ammie, he sometimes has to take an extra stride before he jumps out of the line. SIGH. But he is cute. His secondary job in life is eating. I have never seen a full grown horse stay so fat on so little food.....

[Coreene]

Who has Emmett Kelly? Wasn't that CeCe?

I'm so confused.

[Beezer]

Hm. For some reason I think Emmett Kelly was one of the Lakeside horses ... or Pat Warren's?? And why, for that same some reason, did I think he was a chestnut with cute/funky white markings?? Or perhaps, as I am sure Merry will once again RACE to point out, Beezer's brain has simply turned to mush again. Blame it on the weather ... which even as I look at the window is turning bleaker, blacker and ... ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!! ... rainer. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[Coreene]

Beezer, it will start to rain five minutes before you, Chef and I leave the office. It will rain through tomorrow, then Sunday we'll get a "big" storm, since we seem to be doomed to soggy.

Really, if it must rain, why not just on Monday???

Re Emmett Kelly, I always thought he was gorgeous.

[Lord Helpus]

Emmett Kelly was a Laura Davies (Lakeside) owned and Champ and Linda Hough trained horse.

[Beezer]

Beezer wins a round! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Merry]

Emmett Kelly was not a chestnut, but a dappled dark nutty brown... yeah, okay, he has some chrome on him, but he was not a chestnut. So, I get 1/2 of your points on that one.

Oh, and by the way, it's getting "rainier", not "rainer". Or are you referring to the type of horse you'd like next? (Even then it was misspelled). /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Nothing like razzing the little sister, eh?

And speaking of dogs... I need a smallish, NON-SHEDDING type of dog to accompany me to shows. Must be small enough to sneak into motel rooms. Must be willing to ride in pick-up truck. Must also make good household/indoor companion. Must not be a crazed Jack Russell. (Oh, and I'm not spending $500.) Anyone? Anyone? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[Merry]

Bumpkin: I actually have a schnauzer! It's our second one. We love them... as house pets! My current one is named Merry because I got her as a Christmas present about 8 yrs. ago. She's the world's best dog. I know that for a fact. I have the trophy, so there! (Of course, I was the judge and she was the only entrant... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ). But alas, Merry does not like the horses. She becomes a black hairy puddle whenever she sees one. Do you think a male would be better suited for part-time horse show life?

As for CeCe P.'s gray horse. If it wasn't High Tide, then who was? Okay, what about Silver Lining? Someone's fancy white/gray horse had that name out here. Wasn't it hers?

[AAJumper]

I should go say hello to Tulie and bring him some carrots. I ride at 9am on Saturday, so I will stop by around noon. I'll wear a black Victorian Farms baseball hat so if you are there, you will be able to recognize me. And I'm extremely jealous of your covered arena...we have to slog around in the mud! Fortunately our small arena was rideable yesterday, although our big jumping arena was still too wet. Hopefully it will be dry in time for my lesson tomorrow! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Merry]

...saying, "Neener-neener-neener, I know the name of CeCe Pressley's gray horse!"

Opening envelope...."Heir Apparent" /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Congratulations, Merry! You have advanced to the bonus round! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Actually, cannot take credit for this one. Let's just say a little birdy told me. I have sources everywhere! /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Beezer]

Pfffffffttt!

[Lord Helpus]

but what's this help you are getting. I will have to look in the rule book to see what the penalty is for outside help.

NOW: Silver Lining was a gorgeous gray horse who started in the hunters and slid, effortlessly into the jumper ring.

he was owned and/or ridden by (pick one):

Carlene Blunt
Jimmy Kohn
Ann Kursinski
Someone with realy bad equitation whose heels were always higher than their knees in mid-air.

[Merry]

Carlene Blunt!

The 'really bad equitation rider' that comes to my mind is Poncho Frankel. Do I win??? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[MO]

How about a little Italian Grey Hound? /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[MO]

I guess it's Greyhound! Sorry, but I'm a little under the weather. /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[MHM]

I just had to see what you guys have been
doing over here for 33 pages!

And while I'm here, I'll jump in with my
vote for: the beagle! Sweet, devoted,
good with horses, cats, kids, and other
dogs, small enough for smuggling, just in
general excellent dogs!

(Notice I did not mention obedient.) /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[AAJumper]

Chef, thanks for the compliment on my pics! I've known Tulie for 12 years (my entire riding career). He was owned by my previous trainer and I used to be his groom!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Bumpkin]

You always look so at ease and like you haven't a worry in the world in your photos! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Tulie and you looked like you were having a great time.
I hope that someday my show photos will look so nice. /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Merry]

You guys, me thinks it's time to bid farewell to this thread. We are not only taking up a lot of room on the BB, but there are some disparaging remarks being made about our inability to start new threads.

What do you say? We can begin new topics. We can still relive the past and relish the present. We may even end up with yet another 30-page thread. So, what do you say? How about we begin our eulogy and have a funeral? I e-mailed as many of you as I could to prepare you for this fateful day.

Who wants to be first to begin the memorial service?

[AAJumper]

Who would have known it would grow up to be such a fine thread on the BB? First, there were just a few posters...Coreene (the mother of the thread), Merry, Beezer, Bumpkin, Dublin, C&C, Chef, and Elizabeth, just to name a few (sorry if I forget any names...I'm just too broken up to think clearly here) and later others like SuaveReno joined in the fun. The thread inspired some of us to meet in person in Pomona, and I found someone who knows my old horse, Tulie, in his new home.

And the memories, ahhhhh, the memories, even though they weren't my own. I will miss the thread. Yes, I know there will be other threads, but no thread can ever live up to this thread. It will have a place in BB history, 34 pages and all. May it rest in peace. /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Sniff sniff.............

[Taryn]

So true Merry, I would feel guilty if we caused Infopop's servers to crash! Besides, it's just pathetic that I've been reading this board for over a year and have only made 40 posts!! I will try my hardest to help represent the So Cal contingent.

Coreene will be heart broken when she hears the news tomorrow. Damn shame her question was never answered...

RIP

[elizabeth]

No, no AAJumper. Deep within you all is a NEW thread, waiting to come out. By holding on to this thread, to the past, you are just keeping the door closed on what else is out there.

I know it is hard, and it is sad, but there comes a time in every thread's life when it needs to be. . . let go . . . so that the next thread can come to fruition.

AAJumper, the thread would want it this way. /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Come here and let me hug you. . . . <<muttering "there there">>

[Merry]

Aye, when it was but a wee tyke it questioned the meaning of life: "Why, oh Wise One, do the movie stars have all the money, and all the fancy horses, but they make utter fools out of themselves and basically ride like cr*p?"

Then, it began to utter the names of the Famous Ones: JJ Smith, Gary Ryman, Bob McDonald, Mr. Harris, Linda Hough, Tammy Hickok, and Bob McDonald yet again. And just as it asked the unanswerable, "Who is Melissa Cardenas and is she really telling the truth about her past?"someone stepped forward with the answer.

We raised this thread on summers in Santa Rosa, sunsets in Malibu, rainstorms in Pomona. We even gave it a pet recently: a gray Jorgi Schneadle (Greyhound/Jack Russell/Corgi/Schnauzer/beagle). And all along we gazed at its change in tastes: plaid huntcoats, stock pins, poofy breeches, stock pins.

As we gaze into the poor lass's eyes for the last time, we see she has a question on her face. What is it, dear? Speak up, my child.

"Whatever..." (cough, gasp, gurgle)..."happened to Kimmie McDonald?"

[This message was edited by Merry on Feb. 23, 2001 at 12:52 AM.]

[AAJumper]

I wanted to tell Bumpkin thank you for the compliments on my pics. As for worries...LOL...I should have plenty...did I tell ya'll about the time I fell off onto a jump cup at Indio and slashed my leg? I got 10 stitches, wrapped a big ace bandage around my thigh and re-entered myself in all my classes after my trainer scratched me!!! I guess I repress those thoughts as I become fixated on the course I am riding...either that or I've got a great poker face.

Sorry for the interruption....now back to our regularly scheduled program..... /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Merry]

Like all good Irish funerals, this one could go on for days!

Who knows, the funeral alone may take up another 30pages! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

By the way, did you notice that this very post was NUMBER 666!?!? Augh! The Merry thread is cursed!

[MO]

I'm sure you all will find another Calf. girls topic, and it will begin again!

As for me, MO, Thanks for the laughs, and entertainment. It's been a hoot!

I will never forget crazy lady from KY.

And thanks for all the help with MCJ!!

CIAO /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Merry]

(I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of Beezer to the funeral. I'm sure she'll have a special offering for our services) /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

By the way, was CeCe's horse, Heir Apparent, related in any way to Fleet Apple?

[wtywmn4]

Oh come on now. How can you euthanize (hate that word) this thread? We're so close to 50. Plus you know an irish wake can take a full blown week. You all have to remember the dearly departed and I'm sure we could drag that out a bit longer? Who's bringing the food? The spirits?

[Lord Helpus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I will never forget crazy lady from KY. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Somewhere in these last 34 pages, there must be another lady from KY to whom you are referring.

Please? /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


I am donning navy blue (since black is too harsh a color against my pasty white feb. skin). I have always wanted to see what I would look like behind a heavy veil (how does one wipe tears away behind such a thing? -- Or does one just let tears and accummulated nose production run down face unnoticed?)

Let's have a "Name the New Thread" contest. That will give us something to look forward to in these dark days.

How about:

California Dreaming (on such a winter's day)

[wtywmn4]

Love the name PamM. Diffinitely California Dreaming, even if it is raining!!

You know you will have to come sidesaddle with that outfit. Heavy navy veil, skirt, boots all the trappings. You can lead the procession. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[rusty]

I am so glad that this funeral turned into a wake .

Pam M at least it is winter time otherwise your veil would be very hot and I won't say what else.
Does it make consuming the usual beverages served at a wake difficult. If so I would be inclined to forget fashion and not wear it.

I am thinking of a title of a new thread. I know that I need more coffee before I can think. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

See y'all on the new thread. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Twister]

Pardon me for extending the thread, but why should something die just because it is long? I think it is lovely.

Anyway, Beezer, about Emmett Kelly. I seem to recall an Emmett Kelly who was chestnut with lots of chrome. Of course, I would know nothing about Ca. horses, so it is probably a different one, unless it was sold east. It was a while ago.

The East also had a chestnut/white Gene Kelly. he was at Cismont the same time as Charisma, who was later sold to George Lindeman. It was my understanding that, when the horse failed to go well for George, Kenny offered to buy him back for the full sale price.

[Merry]

Today's $64. question: Did any horse actually go well for George Lindemann? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Pam, you're not the aforementioned "crazy lady from Kentucky", LOL! That was the scary big-haired gal at the riding apparel booth at Equine Affaire in Pomona. Although, the way you look in that veil does make you look kinda crazy... You can be the slightly off-kilter gothic long-lost relative from the south who only shows up for momentous occasions. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I have some finger sandwiches set out on the table. They're Underwood Deviled Ham and Kraft American cheese. Don't laugh; at least I cut the crusts off the Wonderbread! Anyone else bring food?

[dublin]

I vote for LOTS of adult beverages..... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Coreene]

It is with great pleasure that I note starting what seems to be the longest thread ever on the BB (or so they tell us).

It is with great delight that I have found so many wonderful new buddies, library exchanges, eBay tricks on buying old Horses magazines; that I have remembered so many wonderful names from the past, looked at so many photos, bla bla bla, yadda yadda.

Not only have we managed to haul out the names of just about everyone who ever rode in California, and their horses, and the celebs, and their parents, and the pets, and the bla bla bla and yadda yadda, we have also come to the very real conclusion that:

Rust Breeches Will Rise Again

I am sporting a chic black number to this funeral, something that Grace Kelly or Princess Caroline would also wear and, being of the Jackie O persuasion when it comes to sunglasses, a very large pair of chi-chi Christian Dior shades. Because, no matter how much it rains in California, one must ALWAYS sport shades.

[Chef Jade]

Maybe I can actually get some work done now that I won't feel compelled to check the board every 5 minutes.

Until we meet agian! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[C&C]

But just so that I don't have to make a new thread called "Question for Beezer," can Beezer or Merry please tell me if my description of Nikki Smith is correct?? (Look two pages back I think; she had a chestnut named Chauncey and a bay who's name I forget.) If so, she is the same on that lost a huge /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif diamond and gold pendant in the large ring closest to the freeway at OCF. We searched for days with a metal detector, but it was never found. Any OCF riders out there might want to borrow your Uncle Ed's metal detector and try again!! And yes, that is my final post (said with a tone of fear of being wrong like those taking a wild guess on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire." )

[Electric Chair]

Well shoot, I was going to answer the Emmett Kelley and scrolled back to find PamM beat me to the punch - do I get extra credit for knowing it was Laura Davies' jr. horse when I've never even BEEN to California?! And that she was Best Child Rider at Devon on that horse?!

[rusty]

I have brought my blender for the Margaritas. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Twister]

Actually, he had a junior hunter that went well for him. What WAS that horse's name? I keep wanting to say Dexter Dan, but I don't think he had him...did he?? Threes and Sevens seemed to like him pretty well, too.

[Merry]

The caterers just brought in an ice sculpture of a sad-sack rent string horse. Oh, look at the little card that came with it. "To Coreene and Beezer. My condolences. - Wanda Johnson and all the staff at Circle J"

[Merry]

As I readjust my black cashmere twin set (I jump at any excuse to wear cashmere), it dawns on me that I could use Nikki Smith's long-lost pendant. Perhaps I shall ride along on the back of the tractor the next time the ring is graded after all these storms. Who knows what else will turn-up? The partially decomposed body of some reiner from the 1999 Pacific Quarter Horse Circuit show?

[Portia]

Quick - name the source of that quote! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (Think of it being said by an actor with a heavy accent.)

I believe I can confirm that this is the longest thread ever. Generally, before any hope of reaching this vintage, they have long since deteriorated into fighting, name calling, or overly frequent use of the word "thong." I salute you!

[Katey]

All I can offer is macaroni and cheese, with sides of grapes and grahm crackers and chocolate milk as a drink. I don't have to actually take a shower and change out of my sweats to attend this thing do I? My DH will be happy that I will be joining him again on the couch in the evenings. No longer will he have to stare at the TV alone. Goodbye Question for Merry it's been real um,long.

It was "Master Dan" who was a wonderful horse no matter what was sitting on his back...

[magpie's]

Okay - a question for you California types (!) - I had a friend who was from California that came to show in Va. (in the a/o's) - her name was Ann ? and she showed, I think, w/Jimmy Williams and was friends w/Patsy Bell. Horse's name was Skylark. Anyone know who I mean or where she is now?

[Twister]

Thanks, Jaime!!! Do I get partial credit? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[AAJumper]

Katey, I'm sure sweats would be fine...we're the casual crowd! I am wearing rust breeches to the wake. I think the thread would want it that way.

AAJumper arrives at the wake in rust breeches complete with show bow, plops down a dish full of artichoke cheese dip. Just then, she hears the buzz of a blender and rushes off to get a strawberry margarita....

[Coreene]

Coreene runs after AAJumper to get some of that dip for herself, sloshing Champagne everywhere, wondering if mixing her drinks internally is gonna make her sick...

And it takes 35 pages of topic for her to see that there is an instant UBB code for italics, but she doesn't know how it works, and helps herself to more of AA's artichoke dip.

[Lord Helpus]

Jaime Lynn: Master Dan is another Linda Hough trained horse (owned by Megan Johnstone). She bought him from George Lindemann when GL moved on to bigger and better things. At the time, Megan had 4 junior horses -- two large and two small (since that is the maximum amount you are allow to qualify...). She had Master Dan and Watership Down (bought from the Nielsons in NY) and Homegrown (bought from Marie Reynolds in NC) and _______ the very fancy chestnut mare who went on to be the dam of January's Best (Magic ____???)

Magpie: Her name is Ann _________. She is about 5'4", with a cute round face and a chipper smile. She was at Flintridge when I was there (all 6 months of my tenure) and she went east shortly thereafter. Her last name is veddy veddy "Plymouth Rock". I am sure she had at least 12 relatives on the Mayflower. I just cannot remember her name! I DO remember that she went to Bakersfield and during the entire show, no one from Flintridge warmed her up or even watched her go and she came back FUMING! It was that very summer she went east to ride.

And what about Patsy Bell!!! Has no one mentioned her yet? She had Who Cares -- and then she bought Kaiko from Pat Warren and rode with me up north when she married Alan Severinson. What a NICE person she is! And a beautiful rider.

[Taryn]

I really shouldn't be contributing to the resuscitation of this doomed thread, but Megan Johnstone�s fancy chestnut mare was Elfin Magic. I used to compete against her as a junior, and have a picture of said mare circa 1990 at some show at Rancho Murieta (I'd post it, but my scanner decided to take a giant crap).

Why am I thinking Elfin Magic was a pony though? My weary brain seems to remember a bunch of ponies with Magic in their names /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif .

[Merry]

You know, everyone thinks I've been drinking way too many margaritas, because I've got bean dip plopped down the front of my cashmere sweater, but actually it's just 7UP and lime juice. I just talk with my hands, and everytime I start waving my hands around, the bean dip flips off my Dorito! /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Someone get those kids under control! They just knocked over the flower arrangement from Melissa Cardenas!

And who brought the Jack Russell terriers? You don't bring dogs---especially those--- to a freakin' wake!

[SuaveReno]

Says SuaveReno who just got to the wake (she's managed to stuff, ((what's 20lbs between friends))),herself into her 60's plaid coat and canary yellow breeches with pegs only to find that all the strawberry margarita's are gone, then plops herself down in the corner to look at old HORSES magazines ane feed cheesecake to the JR's (cuz they looked hungry, and sniffle (because the thread's dying? /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Noooo because there is no more strawberry Margaritas /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[rusty]

I just had more Strawberries and Tequila delivered. So the Margaritas will be rready momentarily.

[AAJumper]

AAJumper notices Coreene's champagne and whips out a bottle of Peach Schnapps to mix with the champagne.

Peach Baleeneys anyone???

AAJumper mixes a big tumbler of Peach Schnapps and champagne, and wonders "will my alter ego, Cornholio, appear tonight???" /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[magpie's]

PamM,any thoughts on "Ann" yet? It's driving me nuts...big, somewhat strong, chesnut horse called Skylark? Don't I get some type of award for knowing/mentioning her and Patsy Bell, and I've never been to Calif.?! I used to braid Ann's horse some when I wasn't as old and lazy as I am now, and remember once putting close to 60 in - I think it took me hours! LOL But she was nice enough to let me do that horse in the eq's some.

[Katey]

I'm on the phone right now calling their father to come get them. As for the JRTs you'll have to talk to your sister about that one. Oh, gotta go, my 1yr old is now on top of the buffet table along with the JRTs licking the ice sculpture.

[Merry]

Wow, what a mixture of funeral attire! coreene and I in our Jackie O/Lands End outfits, Pam in her veil, Katey in sweats and the rest of you... in riding clothes. Can't you ever leave the horse thing at home???

And what's with all this alcohol? I told you I can't drink... one swig and I end up dancing on the tables... not a good thing at a wake!

[AAJumper]

That's the idea Merry! The thread would want it that way...it would want to see everyone having a good time, not wallowing in misery. As for me, I'm heading out for Mammoth, but I will keep the thread in my thoughts.

AAJumper makes mental note to investigate purchasing a laptop....what will she do for 4 days w/out access to the BB??? /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Lord Helpus]

isn't it Ann Alexander??????????

Am I getting close?????

[Twister]

Elfin Magic is January's Best's MOM???? Now, how cool is THAT? I remember Elfin...oh...ten years ago? maybe more?...In Don Stewart's barn. I want to say Lee Ann Morris had her but I don't think that's right. She had Bold Headlines. Who I saw in the ancient adults at WEF last year! He must be pretty far into his 20's...Who had Elfin??

And quit hogging the artichoke dip!

[Merry]

How many funeral threads do we have going now, LOL?!?

[Kryswyn]

Hello? Anybody home? YooooHOOOOO! Excuse me, but I just read through 35 pages of thread, NOT consecutively mind you but hopskipping around because SOMEone SOMEwhere mentioned Bumpkin's pictures of JRTs and I can't find them posted anywhere. Can you look inside your shroud please and find them, please?

[ClipClop]

Dead I say! LoL, you can go post on the wake thread now! lol

[ClipClop]

Dead! LoL, you can go post on the wake thread now! lol

[Merry]

Step over to the other thread. You're all invited to the wake.

[Katey]

I believe since you were the one to give the thread life you should be the one to end it. We all wait for Coreene's final words........

[Lord Helpus]

This thread CANNOT END until someone calls Bob McDonald and finds out if his daughter Kim is still riding! 703 posts, and we still do not know!

Seems to me that the answer to that question is the appropriate final post to this thread --
Merry, it is your civic duty to put this important issue to rest.

I, for one, need to start sleeping again at night.:D

[wtywmn4]

Ah now Merry, geeez the jack russells were just bringing some gaiety to this wake! Sorry, that was mine who jumped on you and made you spill the wine.

PamM, Patsy was riding as a Severinson, but haven't seen her for a long time. Does anyone know if she's still riding?

This will be a very long and slow thread death. We just can't seem to let it goooooooo......
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[magpie's]

PamM, it IS Ann Alexander! Thank you - now I can sleep at night! LOL

[Beezer]

The tears ... or is it MORE of this damn rain!?!?? ... are robbing her of vision.

But now that she is here, she must start with a grand gesture and a repeated yell of YEEEEEESSSS!! for getting the color of Emmett Kelly correct. Thank you, thank you PamM, Twister and Sea Urchin, for proving that every great once in a while, the younger sister is actually right about something. I WANT THAT HALF POINT BACK, Merry! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And, yes, C&C, that would be the same Nikki Smith. The bay I mentioned her buying from Bob would have been the late '70s; she had started showing ammy and this was supposed to be a "replacement" horse for her junior hunter ... which for some reason I recall as being a really pretty dark brown/black with fancy white trim. But I am SURE that Merry will correct me on this. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Now. As for this "funeral" ... What's the PC term these days? A celebration of a life?? Yeah! That's it. (Quick! Someone find a copy of Elton John's "Funeral for a Friend" and get it on the stereo. And pour me one of those margaritas! Assuming, of course, that there are any left. And Katey, please tell your children to stop teasing my JRTs!)

So, let's all join hands around the ice sculpture of Clifford, the rental horse both Beezer's and Coreene's butts sat on (that ice sculpture's a nice touch Merry, I gotta admit) and relive the special moments of this coat. (It is officially a coat now, its threads have been woven together so many times.) We have met. We have bonded. We have formed the cult of Fleet Apple and we know that he is not related to Young Fleet. We have learned that Merry lords it over Beezer.

This coat waits for us on the other side of the Rainbow Bridge of cyberspace. Let us enjoy our edible bouquets of carrots, apples and molasses treats, raise a glass of flat diet Coke (which, as we all know, is the only drink served at horse show concession stands) and speak in hush tones of what we have created.

For it is a work of greatness. And we, as founding members of the California clique, should be proud.

Now please ... since I have hunted through my endless (and I do mean ENDLESS) closets of clothes for something appropriate to wear to this thing, do take notice of my sweater -- purchased in England -- and its lovely hunt scene pattern. I have matched it with a classy tweed skirt and sensible flats. Tasteful gold earrings, bracelet and a lovely pendant engraved with a portrait of the original Beezer complete the ensemble.

Sigh. Who gave Merry a drink?? Merry, dear, do get off the table. And do put your cashmere sweater back on. Parading around in your purple sports bra is inappropriate for the occasion. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[dublin]

I knew her!!! We went to Scripps College together (she was two years later than me) and lived in the same dorm. She accompanied me when we went to Cynthia Campbell's barn to visit my Maggie...who we had sold back to Cynthia after I went to college.

I just looked her up in my alumnae directory - She's married (now Pritzlaff), living in Castle Rock, CO and owns a sporting goods store.

We lost touch after college and I had completely forgotten about her - thanks for jogging my memory! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Coreene]

Now it's time
to say goodbye
to the "Question for Mer-ry
G-o-o-d
b-y-e
But who KNOWS what happened to Kimmie!

Thanks, girls. This one has been a blast, but it's time for retirement.

Thread?

DEAD.


PS: Just hit the "Close thead" thing and it says I can't -now shooting emails to the administrators to ask them to do so. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Lord Helpus]

Is this a five star thread? "NO", shout we-all. "It is a 10 star thread."

But, five is as high as they go. Unfortunately, my efforts at having this thread die with the five star dignity that it deserves have gone for naught.

I say we petition the administrator to give this thread the 5th star it so richly deserves. Over 700 posts -- all in friendship. No meanness (unless you happen to be M.C. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) Not one administrator admonishment! Truly a top o the line five star-er if there ever was one.

FIVE, FIVE, WE WANT FIVE!

[Merry]

Regarding Emmett Kelley, the horse: Okay, shoot me if I'm wrong, but Diane Grod rode a horse named Emmet Kelley about the same time she rode a horse named Willie Nelson, and THAT Emmett Kelley was a dark, dappled bay with white... wasn't it???

Oh wait, I'm supposed to be on the other thread... /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Weatherford]

by Merry, no less, to close this thread...

So I am doing it. If anyone wants a copy for posterity, I will make an =Adobe Acrobat file of it when I get back to the States, so write me in April...

Do you really want it closed, Merry??? /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif