Silent auction for Baby Aiden?

[Erin]

Hey folks,

"Fred" (aka Gail, owner of A Fine Romance) posted about this earlier, but I wanted to bring it back up again and see if there was any interest.

If you've been following the threads on Off Course, you know about this already... but a BBer named RolexH has a baby boy with a very serious liver disease, and he needs a transplant. A fund has been set up in his name, and I've been collecting donations from COTHers for it... so far, we have over $2,500. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Fred has also donated a breeding to A Fine Romance to be offered through a silent auction, with the winning bid being paid to the American Liver Foundation (through which Aiden's fund is set up).

Since it's for a charitable cause, I told Fred we could go ahead and organize it through the BB.

Would any of the rest of you be interested in donating a breeding? What Fred and I have discussed is having a minimum bid of $500 (to the ALF), and again, the auction would be silent. I would just collect the bids and notify the winners.

If anyone else is interested, please email me at COTHCatHerder@yahoo.com. Thanks! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

(And for more info on Aiden, see some of the threads on Off Course... )

[Erin]

Hey folks,

"Fred" (aka Gail, owner of A Fine Romance) posted about this earlier, but I wanted to bring it back up again and see if there was any interest.

If you've been following the threads on Off Course, you know about this already... but a BBer named RolexH has a baby boy with a very serious liver disease, and he needs a transplant. A fund has been set up in his name, and I've been collecting donations from COTHers for it... so far, we have over $2,500. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Fred has also donated a breeding to A Fine Romance to be offered through a silent auction, with the winning bid being paid to the American Liver Foundation (through which Aiden's fund is set up).

Since it's for a charitable cause, I told Fred we could go ahead and organize it through the BB.

Would any of the rest of you be interested in donating a breeding? What Fred and I have discussed is having a minimum bid of $500 (to the ALF), and again, the auction would be silent. I would just collect the bids and notify the winners.

If anyone else is interested, please email me at COTHCatHerder@yahoo.com. Thanks! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

(And for more info on Aiden, see some of the threads on Off Course... )

[poltroon]

Go Fred! Go Erin! /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Kafue]

Good for Gail. I hope others donate a breeding too it is not often that one can make a direct difference in a particular life. My sympathies to the parents - I have been there.

[onetempies]

develop further! What a wonderful way to raise money for a charitable cause!

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[pintofoal]

What a great idea, had seen the other thread about this and thought I'd love to help, but it's that time of year when $$$ is in short supply, so not a lot I could do at the moment, but I can donate breedings! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[Erin]

Whoo-hoo! Thanks Liz, and thanks Darlyn! We now have SIX donated breedings! How cool! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'll try to get the ball rolling on this next week. I think what we'll do is start the bidding for each stallion at 50% of the normal stud fee OR $500. (Owner's choice.) Or whatever works for everyone. I'm not all that up to speed on the breeding stuff, so you guys just let me know what will work for you. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

What I'll really need help with is getting the word out about this... so once the details are sorted out, even if you can't donate a breeding, you can pitch in in that regard. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thanks again, everybody... you guys are great. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[HFSH]

Yes, I will donate a breeding... all the details about fees are on my website (ie booking and collection type charges).

Home of the RPSI approved stallion, Remarkable. Homozygous for BLACK!
The ALL NEW "I hate Physical Therapy Clique" *MidWest Clique* *Crippled Knee Clique*

[Erin]

Oh, thank you HFSH! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'll continue to work out the details with everyone over the next few days. Thanks again!

[onetempies]

Hey Erin... I can throw a flyer together once you get all the info compiled. But we can put all the stallions on it with pics & info... plus what it is for and contact info for placing bids. The flyer can then be made into a .pdf (adobe acrobat) format and we can put the word out with tacking those up (then either downloaded by others who want a copy or we can email a copy out to them). It's what I do for a living (create ads)... so it'd be a breeze to throw something together for the silent auction here at COTH! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Show goals achieved & Sass is in foal! 4 months down... about 7 more to go.

We've got STANLEY! Wings Rock!

[Erin]

Hey, that would be great! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I'll also put together a webpage with info.

I'll get started on the details tomorrow, and once I've firmed up everything with the stallion owners, I'll let you know the pertinent info to put on a flyer. Thanks!

[Fred]

your prayers and most positive thoughts are needed. There is more on the off course board.

[Jo]

Erin, this is a great idea. Fred, you're a genius! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"You might think there would be an explanation for this... but you would be wrong."

[Spot]

He and I would love to help and be part of this!

Because of current boarding restrictions though would have to be an AI service only - not live cover, and usual collection and shipping charges would apply.

Let me know!

"Spot"

[Medievalist]

This is a great idea. I'll definitely forward it on to people I know who might be interested.

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[Erin]

Thanks Spot! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'll contact you about particulars later on this week.

BTW, the donations I've gotten so far from BBers now stand at $2750. Can't wait to see what the final tally is after all the beautiful boys' services are auctioned off! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[pintofoal]

+ wanted to know how it is going, is there anything I can do to help, would be happy to design a webpage or such...just let me know /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[Spot]

Semen is a readily renewable resource /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

How 'bout donating some from some of your stallions???

I couldnt think of a better cause than this one and I am sure it wouldnt hurt any of us one bit to donate one breeding.

"Spot"

[luckyduck]

I will donate a live cover breeding to my TB stallion Prince Quick....(Pleasant Colony grandson)

I had the pleasure of meeting baby Aiden's family last week.

Life has such a funny way fo bringing people together. About three months ago I came across a post about Aiden....the pictures were a part of my memory forever....and when his mom walked into my kitchen, my heart froze in place....

I hope that the pictures are posted soon of the baby Aiden and Luckyduck.

That will be a day I will remember forever!

[Spot]

Who else out there with stallions is willing to donate a breeding for Baby Aiden?

I can think of several farms with more than one stallion, and individuals with just one stallion, who regularily converse on this board who should be in a position to donate a breeding?!

Come on - what better way to get some free pubilicity and advertising for your stallion and farm and support a super cause than this one?!

"Spot"

[Ghazzu]

Well, I have an Arab stud (I know, ew, gross), but I'm in if anyone might be interested.

www.minglewood-arabs.net (http://www.minglewood-arabs.net)

http://www.divineequines.com/s_brigade.html

Unashamed member of the Arab clique...just settin' on the Group W bench.

[Spot]

thats wonderful and the Arab/WB and Arab/TB crosses make lovely babies, so I am sure there is someone out there who would love a breeding to your guy!

Any more generous stallion owners out there willing to donate?

"Spot"

[Erin]

Ohhh... thanks guys! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The more, the merrier! I kind of like having a diverse group. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I am going to start working on the details of this in the next couple of days. (I was too swamped at work last week to think about anything else. /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif )

So, stallion owners, expect an email from me in the next day or two to work out the details.

Once we get this set up, I'm hoping that the rest of the gang here can lend some help in getting the word out. I'll set up some information online and we'll have some kind of printable flyer... if the rest of y'all can help spread the word, that would be great! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sorry for being kind of slow in getting this going, but I promise the ball will be rolling soon! And THANKS again. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Ghazzu]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spot:
thats wonderful and the Arab/WB and Arab/TB crosses make lovely babies, so I am sure there is someone out there who would love a breeding to your guy!

"Spot"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He does have several Anglo-Arab get--one is now, I believe, a dressage horse, the others are doing distance riding.

Unashamed member of the Arab clique...just settin' on the Group W bench.

[Spot]

You've got some lovely stallions that I am sure someone would LOVE a breeding to?
GGold - how about one of your guys?
Sonesta - can you donate a breeding to one of your guys?
NattyDread - what about the lovely grey boy?

Think - free advertising and good cause - what better combination could there be?

"Spot"

[mirrabook]

Apologies I have come so late to this thread ... but what a great cause ... we will join in as well and donate a breeding to one of our guys, probably Tramino. Let me know the plans. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[Robby Johnson]

What a great idea!

So many stallion owners that I admit I forgot about! Good for you!

I'm assuming our regular stallion owner posters - Darkhorse, Freehold, Norsire, GGold, Fred, Spot, HSFH - have contributed?

I can see if my pal will donate a breeding for her RID stallion.

Erin, you know I'm crafty in the PR department - and for baby Aiden I'm at your beckon call!

Robby

You may be only one person in the world, but you may also be the world to one person.

[Robby Johnson]

What a great idea!

So many stallion owners that I admit I forgot about! Good for you!

I'm assuming our regular stallion owner posters - Darkhorse, Freehold, Norsire, GGold, Fred, Spot, HSFH - have contributed?

I can see if my pal will donate a breeding for her RID stallion.

Erin, you know I'm crafty in the PR department - and for baby Aiden I'm at your beckon call!

Robby

You may be only one person in the world, but you may also be the world to one person.

[Fred]

Spot, Pintofoal, Darlyn, HFSH,Lucky Duck, Ghazzu , and Mirrabook for joining in and Robby and Medievalist for your generous offers of help.
That's 8 or 9 stallions so far. WONDERFUL!! that will help to buy a lot of medicine for this little baby.
Just to clarify, this will be a "SILENT" auction - so the stallions are not competing in anyway whatsoever against one another. And the stallions will not be devalued in any way. No one except the successful bidder (and Erin and the stallion owner) will know the final bid amount.
This BB and its members have been very generous to me, and I am proud and honoured to be able to give something back, as I am sure the other participating stallion owners are too.
Let's Go! Jingle an AV for Baby Aiden! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Little Indian]

I e-mailed this thread to JDon Farms, and maybe they will donate a breeding to one of thier 5 stallions. IF/when they e-mail me back I will let you guys know and put them in contact with Erin.

Hali
"Riding is simple . . .it's just not easy."-Anonymous

[can't re-]

....you guys are awesome for donating a breeding to your incredibly nice stallions.


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[Spot]

you are a doll - thanks a bunch! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I just remembered - GW Ranch - Heike - would you be good enough to donate a breeding to one of your nice stallions too?

Still a WHOLE bunch of stallion owners we havent heard from yet ...
Come on - COTH is excellent about allowing us to come on here and not quite advertise our stallions (!), but extoll their virtues so that word gets out about them. Repay the favor and contribute to this cause.

What is a little bit of semen from your stallions? As soon as they ejaculate, there is LOTS more where that came from!
You will still get your regular collection and/or boarding fees - you are simply donating "Sperm For A Good Cause".

I don't know Aiden at all, nor do I know his parents, but I do know in a little way, I can help towards once heck of a good cause and think how good you'd all feel if by donating, you actually made a difference.

Who else owns stallions that I havent thought of yet?

"Spot"

[Tin]

you guys are the best /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif If you need help with anything, just let me know.

Perhaps I could donate the services of my gelding who *thinks* he's a stallion /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

~ Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once ~

[pintofoal]

But also want to remind the future bidders, not to worry to much about getting a bargain--I know, I know we all love a bargin /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif But remember that your money that is bid will be going to help Baby Aiden, so bidders (not just stallion owners) please think generously too, even if you can get the breeding cheaper else where keep in the back of your mind where your money will be going and what a great cause you will be helping + you will get a great foal in the future /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I with you Spot--come on stallion owners, lets get all of our wonderful stallions in on this!

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[pintofoal]

I know a lot of stallion owners from doing ads and such, will hit them all up, the worst they can say is no, right? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[Fred]

in addition to going to a wonderful cause, Baby Aiden, your cheque will be made out to the Liver Foundation, and therefore will be a charitable donation for taxation purposes. (I think).

Thanks Liz and Spot for your extra efforts. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Spot]

(where is the Gold Star icon when you need one?!)

You certainly earn a big Gold Star for your efforts too!

Tannenwald Trakehner - what about your adorable little colored pony - is he doing stud duty yet or is he still too young?

Who else are we missing that we can get breedings from?

"Spot"

[monami]

He is a handsome one!! How tall??

[Robby Johnson]

the Happy Hour owner?

If so, this is a little OT, but I played with 2 of his foals the other night when braiding mares for an inspection. John and Kari Cassel, in Little Rock, use me for braiding sometimes!

Great babies, too! Love them!

Robby

You may be only one person in the world, but you may also be the world to one person.

[Erin]

OK, by my count, here's who I have down as wanting to participate:

Fred (Gail)/A Fine Romance

Fairview Horse Center (Darlyn)/Nevada

Erika (sorry, I'm not sure what your screen name is!)/Rowfantina's Little Percy (Welsh)

Pintofoal (Liz)/Art Deco, Hall of Fame, State of the Art, Spectrum

HFSH/Remarkable

Spot/Sato

Luckyduck/Prince Quick

Ghazzu/Brigade CF

mirrabook/one of her guys /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (probably Tramino)

That's 12 so far. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I was going to sit down tomorrow night and try to sort all the details of this out, but what the hey, let's just start now. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I think Darlyn suggested starting the bidding at half of the stallion's usual fee. So I'll leave it up to each of you... either $500 or half the normal fee.

Now, what I need from each stallion owner is what fees would/would not be included. (Remember, I own geldings and am NOT conversant in all the breeding stuff, so spell everything out for me, please! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

Also, I'll need a photo and some text about your boy, or a link to a webpage. I'll put together a webpage with info about Aiden and short blurbs/pix of all the stallions... and the kind soul who volunteered earlier (whose name escapes me!) will hopefully be able to do up a flier.

As Fred mentioned, it will be a silent auction. I'm hoping that the winning bidder's check can just be made out to the American Liver Foundation -- but I need to work out the details with the ALF so that they can tell me when the checks clear, so you guys will know it's OK to send semen.

Anything else that needs to be decided?

Where I'll really need help is just in spreading the word about this. Hopefully everyone who reads the forum can plaster the link around and tell everyone they know. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I think most of you have posted or emailed me the URL's for your stallions, but if not, or if you have specific information you want included, just email it to me. And if there's a particular photo you want me to use, let me know that too. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thanks again everyone. You guys are really awesome for stepping up and chipping in! I'll have to remember this moment the next time one of the really nasty fights starts and I want to disband the breeding forum altogether. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BTW, I'm mailing off checks totalling $2810 to the ALF tomorrow, all from COTH posters. I'm excited to see what the grand total will be after this leg of the fundraising drive. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Spot]

Is Lisa (Rolex H) out of pocket for any of these expenses when Aiden goes in for tests, etc?
I know we have a different health care system up here in Canada than you do in the US.

Could the money raised go to better use to them personally, rather than to the Liver Foundation?

Just a though - never been involved in a fund raising drive such as this one before ... and dont know what your health plans do and dont cover.

"Spot"

[Fred]

after thanking &lt;everyone&gt; - I/we had forgotten to thank ERIN!!
This is a whole lot of work for her, and it could not happen without her considerable time, abilities and efforts.
Thanks too to the COTH for giving us the (ahem) forum to provide this.

I'm thinking that we possibly have enough stallions participating. Twelve is an excellent number and we should be able to raise a whopping amount of $$$.

The other stallion owners who have not joined in must be well aware of what we are doing. Their silence I think is their anwer. We would love to have them participate, and it is a truly wonderful cause, but they must have their reasons for not wanting to donate a breeding.

So instead, why don't we just close the stallion list off today so that we can get going with the organization!
Let's Go!

[Spot]

I have just posted another topic asking any stallion owners that perhaps had not been reading this thread, to please consider donating.
So far - we have such a diverse group of stallions(from hunter champions, to Welsh stallions, Arab stallions, Warmbloods and - saving the best to last /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif - colored TB stallions!) - we certainly could use a few more in each of the different types.

So - no - I would ask Erin to perhaps close it by the end of this week. That would give a lot more stallion owners the opportunity to participate.

Surely there are more than 12 mare owners out there that would be interested in our stallions???

"Spot"

[Allyn M]

Just got back online after not participating for a while and noticed that this was a stallion auction. Will be happy to donate a breeding to our stallion Branco ( Rothschild &lt;Ramiro Z &gt; X Amor ) Approved BWP/NAD. We donate each year through the organization and I can't think of a worthier cause than this one so count me in.

Allyn McCracken
Sport Horse Breeder
www.bannockburnfarm.net (http://www.bannockburnfarm.net)

[Fred]

welcome!

[Spot]

What a gorgeous stallion!
Thank you!
That puts us to 13 stallions so far ...

I would love to see the total get up to the 25 stallion area.
That would be SO awesome and could make such a huge difference!

Personally, I know that Alla C'zar is such a nice sought after stallion (I'd KILL for an All C'zar baby!) - Darkhorse - would you consider donating a breeding to him?
GGold - what about Guaranteed Gold or Albadou?
Norsire - you have a bunch that I know people would love to breed to - what about one of the cremello's or the WB's?
Sonesta - what about one of your boys?
Forgot Red Fox Farm - are you game to donate to this as well? With one of the TB boys or the lovely APHA stallions?
GW Ranch - I know there are a LOT of your stallions that people covet - I'd love to see one of them in here as well!


Who else am I forgetting?

"Spot" (who is on a mission to round up as many stallions as possible! /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif )

[pintofoal]

Carol Lawrence of Willowlake Farm is joined in and will donate a breeding to Caruso /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif He a lovely black Westf. stallion currently at the 100DT with Spectrum. Attached is a photo of him and heres the website http://www.willowlakefarms.com

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[pintofoal]

Trotting

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[Spot]

He is stunning!
This is SO neat - there are some new stallions being donated that I personally havent heard of before and its wonderful to get them out there and known to the mare owners!
What a fabulous addition to this auction - thanks SO much!

"Spot"

[bluemoonfarms]

Erin,

I don't own a stallion but I would be more than happy to donate an egg from my mare EM Roma I for an embryo transfer. She was just named USDF HOY Broodmares with a score of 80.7. She is in foal, currently due in April. If anyone has an interest we could work out the details. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Denise Higgins www.bluemoonfarms.net (http://www.bluemoonfarms.net)
Domestic & Imported Warmbloods

[Allyn M]

Liz ....... someone told me years ago that you had a broodmare by Branco. Is that true ??

Allyn McCracken
Sport Horse Breeder
www.bannockburnfarm.net (http://www.bannockburnfarm.net)

[Ghazzu]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jstallings:
He is a handsome one!! How tall??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


A hair over 15hh.
Well sprung ribs--really takes up your leg.
(I use a wide tree dressage saddle on him.)

Unashamed member of the Arab clique...just settin' on the Group W bench.

[pintofoal]

Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine, "Eleanor" (big name!) /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Here's a photo of her, she has always had wonderful babies and all colored--what a good girl!

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[Tawna24]

I would LOVE to donate a breeding to my stallion "Maxamilion" aka "Max". Do you think anyone would be interested though? He is so young, and next spring (he will be 3) will be his first year standing to the public. We do have 3 test mares bred, expecting next spring. Let me know what you all think? See pics of him here: Golden Venture Farm (http://www.goldenventurefarm.com)

/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I will do it if you all think someone may bid and it will help. Just don't want to create extra paperwork if no one my be interested. He is definiatly quality stallion material, but young and yet unproven. WHADYALLTHINK????? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

www.GoldenVentureFarm.com (http://www.GoldenVentureFarm.com)
Standing: "Maxamillion" Buckskin tobinao ASB/DWB cross. No Samber lines.

[Norsire]

Why don't you put me on the "SPOT", without e-mailing me to let me know what you posted on the Baby fund raising cause? With my name? /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif I feel really dumb now. /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I had not been following the thread since along time ago when it was first posted. I had no idea what was going on until today! Of course I will donated a breeding to one of my stallions, by AI only. Also, in going through all the post, for everyone who does not own a stallion, they could still donate in the form of a small check. I think anyone on these boards, could certainly send $10.00...imagine if everyone who does not own a stallion or mare owners who don't buy a breeding sent 10.00 it would really add up to alot. I think alot of people think, like I did, oh I don't have alot of money, so I can be of no help. I think all can add to the pot for the final goal!!! I'm sure Rolex has insurance, so the American Liver Fund sounds like a great idea, so he gets his new liver. Just a suggestion, send an e-mail to all the stallion owners who you have named, who may not have read the thread like me. I bet alot have not read the thread yet!!! They would probably be happy to donate if they only knew! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Home to the stallions Zillionair, Billionair, Issue of Gold, Gold Card, and Pure White Gold.
http://www.norsire.com
Realtor RE/MAX Renaissance, Million Dollar Club

[Erin]

Wow, thanks guys! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bluemoonfarm, I don't see why we can't have girls in the auction too. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Of course, I have absolutely no idea what would be involved with that, but I'm sure we can figure something out!

Spot, I know Aiden's family does have very good insurance. But the American Liver Foundation suggested that they set about raising about $250,000 for Aiden's lifetime care, and they set up the fund that we contribute to. (This way, everyone knows the situation is "legit," that the donations are being handled responsibly, AND they are tax-deductible!)

The fund is new (in fact, I think our fundraising efforts were the first /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ), but I think once it gets going, the idea is that the funds in it can be used for those out-of-pocket expenses, stuff insurance doesn't cover, co-pays, and all that kind of stuff.

So unless Aiden's mom tells me something different, I think we're best off sending donations to the ALF. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'm going to try to get everything organized and get a webpage set up this weekend, and hopefully next week we can start promoting the auction. So I guess we can keep accepting new stallions up until the auction is ready to go. The more, the merrier, I say. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And thanks again to everyone who's taking part, and to Fred for thinking up the idea in the first place. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Spot]

Bless your heart Norsire!

You were actually the next email I was going to send - just sent one to GGold and you beat me to it!

Thanks a bunch - that is FABULOUS news!

Including your stallion (which one will it be - do you know yet?) we have got some simply outstanding stallions available that will appeal to such a wide diversity of mare owners.

And excellent suggestion about the monetary donation as well as emailing the other stallion owners I have kindly named on this thread ...

thanks again -that is great!

Tawna24 - yes - by all means we'd love to have him if you feel he will be ready willing and able next year!
There are so many of us who love the unusually colored dilute stallions - he'd be such a lovely cross on a TB mare!
Thank you so much - I think I can speak for all of us when I say - "Yes - we'd definately love tohave him included!"

"Spot" - who doesnt mean to put anyone on a **spot** ... REALLY!

[Freehold]

Boy I'd missed this one. I hate reading sad stories, so I hadn't been reading the baby Aiden stuff - too heartbreaking /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Anyways, I'd be glad to offer my two boys. There is F.E. Copper Top, a 1998 approved Canadian Sport Horse stallion. He is unproven under saddle as yet, but will be competing in the five-year-old FEI dressage classes next season, and might do some hunter classes too, depending on how his training over the winter goes. He does have four babies on the ground so far (one yearling three current babies) and we are expecting up to nine next year (assuming everyone carries). Copper is about 16.3hh now, and will probably hit 17hh when finished growing. The other is El Ghazi Legacy, a 1998 Arabian (polish lines) stallion. He is not yet going under saddle (I start my guys late), but will be competing in the Arab shows next year. He'd cross very well to heavier warmbloods (I plan to warmblood approve him, but am waiting until he has some performance record) or to draft cross mare. I plan to have him show in dressage as he is a superb mover. He should finish 15hh (he's about 14.3hh now). Information on both can be found on my web site. I've emailed Erin about them /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Hope this helps.

www.freeholdequine.com (http://www.freeholdequine.com)

[Sonesta]

Well, I just now saw the thread and Spot's challenge. No one emailed me, but I will happily post a breeding to our black pure Polish Arabian stallion, Fyre One (*Aladdinn x Fyre Love x *Bask). He's an awesome sporthorse type. And he's now famous! Kip Goldreyer, columnist for The Practical Horseman magazine has one of his sons as her new horse.

Sonesta Farms (http://www.sonestafarms.com) Hanoverian, Knabstrupper & Arabian Sport Horses

"Find something you love & call it work."

[This message was edited by Sonesta on Oct. 22, 2002 at 12:02 PM.]

[Tawna24]

I am sure Max will be "up fpr it" next year!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Count me in, after Erin's approval!!

Now, what do I have to do for you all? What paperwork will be needed from us stallion owners for you all? Keep us posted!

www.GoldenVentureFarm.com (http://www.GoldenVentureFarm.com)
Standing: "Maxamillion" Buckskin tobinao ASB/DWB cross. No Samber lines.

[onetempies]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pintofoal:
Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine, "Eleanor" (big name!)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What breed does she happen to be and at one time was she in Michigan????? If so... I think my friend owns a son of hers! A BIG gelding by LaCoste... foaled in '98. Eleanor's name is listed as his dam...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
Show goals achieved & Sass is in foal! 4 months down... about 7 more to go.

We've got STANLEY! Wings Rock!

[onetempies]

I'll drop you a line... my offer is still open to put a flyer together that can be printed off by COTH members to post and help get the word out!

BIG thanks to all those stallion owners who are donating and thank you Erin for putting this into action for Aiden and his family!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
Show goals achieved & Sass is in foal! 4 months down... about 7 more to go.

We've got STANLEY! Wings Rock!

[Spot]

I was hoping that you'd offer your black guy Sonesta - especially as he was now famous through Kip!

What are we up to now Erin?

Tawna24 - if he is like any other stallion, Im sure he'll be "up for it" just fine now, let alone next year!
Erin wants a blurb on your stallion, a picture you would like used, a link to your web site, and any additional costs that will apply. Like - if it is Live Cover, what forms you would need completed, what your daily board rate is, etc.
If AI, then what your standard collection fees would be, any additional costs to get it to the airport or courier station, costs for the Equitainer, etc

"Spot"

[Allyn M]

Liz.... Eleanor is a lovely mare and looks like Branco.I am including a picture of Song Sung Blue B our favorite broodmare also by Branco and looking a lot like Eleanor. It was two of her foals that did so well at Dressage at Devon. She is half TB. Her dam was To Be Blue XX by French Jab XX

Allyn McCracken
Sport Horse Breeder
www.bannockburnfarm.net (http://www.bannockburnfarm.net)

[Norsire]

I will leave it to the winning bidder which stallion they want. Norab is frozen only and so is Jalapeno, since both are in heaven now. Fresh shipped could be Gold Card or Billionair. All shipping and lab fees will have to be paid. I hope all your e-mails reach the stallions owners and they are willing to donate. My prayers with baby Aiden!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Home to the stallions Zillionair, Billionair, Issue of Gold, Gold Card, and Pure White Gold.
http://www.norsire.com
Realtor RE/MAX Renaissance, Million Dollar Club

[Tawna24]

Erin- do you think COTH would donate a one page ad of all the stallions donating breedings with pics of baby Aiden and a short story about the silent auction and its purpose??

That would be a WONDERFUL way to get the word out, would increase the oportunity of bids for the "non-computer" savy readers, thusly (hopefully) increasing the bids to bring in more money.

Who could we aproach at the magazine about this, or has it already been done? (Accepted/rejected? This may already be in the works, and I am just REALLY behind the loop and do not even know about it:)

A color ad would be nice too:) Just a thought... I am trying to help. We still have enought time to put something together for the stallion issue, and as we all know- stallion auctions draw a TON of people - ESPECIALLY for sure a good cause as sweet little baby Aiden!!

WHATDAYALLTHINK?????????

www.GoldenVentureFarm.com (http://www.GoldenVentureFarm.com)
Standing: "Maxamillion" Buckskin tobinao ASB/DWB cross. No Samber lines.

[Celtic Witch]

Am heading back to the States in a month and will be happy to donate a breeding to my stallion, Rendement (Burggraaf x Nurzeus).

Susie

[Erin]

Well, the COTH isn't really in the charity business... this fundraising effort isn't sponsored or promoted by them. But they're nice enough to foot the hefty bill for the BB, and to let us promote such things here. So let's leave it at that. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Tawna24]

Bummer, Oh well, It was worth a shot!!

www.GoldenVentureFarm.com (http://www.GoldenVentureFarm.com)
Standing: "Maxamillion" Buckskin tobinao ASB/DWB cross. No Samber lines.

[Spot]

Thanks a bunch! Does anyone know how many stallions we are up to now?

And Norsire - that is really generous and neat - that someone gets their opick of your stallions!

Tawna24 - good try about the full page color ad /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif!
Gotta give you "A" for effort on that one girl ...

"Spot"

[DH]

but I would gladly offer my help in making a web page/web pages or graphics for the effort. Would you like assistance in that effort Erin?

That's what I do all day long and it would be nice to write some pages for a good cause! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[rusti]

If your still looking for stallion donations count Winston in. I haven't had time to read through all four pages so just let me know what you need.

[premiere]

Hi Everyone.
I (we, Skip and I ) are new to posting, but we will gladly donate a breeding for baby Aiden from our stallion (we just bought him in September), GALATOIS. Buyer pays seman transportation, lab fees...is that OK?? Erin, let me know the specifics or what you need from us.
Liked the idea about the ad in COTH. How about if all the stallion owners chip in together and pay for the page. Won't add up to much if we all pitch in I shouldn't think.....
thanks,
Elise

[Fred]

and thank you for your generosity.
this is great!
thank you all who have just joined in, stallion owners, mare owner (! what a great idea)! and computer whizes /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif - we should really be able to make a difference to this wonderful little baby and his family!
We have a lovely selection of stallions too, terrific.
I will definitely be doing my shopping for "Cricket" (Fred's bodacious sister) from this list.

I still have not finished my webpage - but you can look at it under construction at
www.goldhopefarm.com/tamaracklanefarm (http://www.goldhopefarm.com/tamaracklanefarm)
I think. /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[This message was edited by Fred on Oct. 23, 2002 at 07:45 AM.]

[premiere]

thanks!
I have not switched over the web sight yet to our name, but anyone can check out GALATOIS at:
www.galatois.com (http://www.galatois.com)
sorry i don't know yet how you guys put in the links that one just clicks on!!!!!!!

[Spot]

welcome and thank you and what a stunning stallion!
Will be perfect for those looking for a nice hunter prospect out of their mare!

Thanks too rusti - I was hoping you'd donate your guy too. I fell in love with him with that picture you posted of him a few months back.

"Spot"

[denny]

Count us in for a Loyal Pal donation. Buyer pays shipping fees or mare board. Live foal? How are people doing this?
Denny and May Emerson

[Equine Connection]

To Robby:

Is Tannenwald ... the Happy Hour owner? NO.

"If so, this is a little OT, but I played with 2 of his foals the other night when braiding mares for an inspection. John and Kari Cassel, in Little Rock, use me for braiding sometimes! Great babies, too! Love them! Robby"

Robby - Thanks for the feedback on Kosi and Cassi, as they are lovely kids!

Erin - Please contact me via email regarding donating a breeding for details. Thanks.

"HAPPY HOUR" & Hawk's Run Trakehners
http://www.happyhour1.com

[Priya]

Guaranteed Gold has a "heart of gold" and wants to help out Baby Aiden /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

GGold

Home of Cremello Thoroughbred GUARANTEED GOLD

[Spot]

Thank you SO much!
I am floored by the class of stallions we are able to offer in this silent auction for Aiden.
My God - if I didnt have my own to breed to, I'd have serious trouble trying to decide which of these fabulous guys to breed the girls to!

Erin - we must be up to 20-25 now, I would think?

"Spot"

[Nikita]

if us non stallion owning mare owners put up some money to cover an ad in the Chronicle? I know many people have already donated directly to Baby Aiden but there are many that haven't yet.

Mare owners, what do you think?

[Erin]

Holy cow... did I really say the more the merrier? Oh dear! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

OK, an update on the details...

This will be a silent auction. Starting bids will be either $500 or 50% of the usual fee -- it's the stallion owner's choice.

I am trying to work it out so that winning bidders will make the check for the amount of their bid out to the American Liver Foundation... I just need to find a contact at ALF who can let me know when the checks clear, so I can then give the stallion owners the green light to proceed.

Other than that, I figure we'll leave everything up to each individual stallion owner. You just let me know what fees the winner will be responsible for and if you have any other caveats.

(Please keep in mind that I am NOT involved in breeding in any way, so I'm totally winging it here, and counting on you guys for guidance and the details! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

Now... some more good news. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Robby Johnson has been given the go-ahead to write an article for the COTH about the auction. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The article will run in January.

Do we want to wait to close the auction until after the article runs? I know it's a long way off, and as I am a breeding neophyte, I don't know if January vs. November would make a big difference.

I'm all for doing this in the way that YOU guys want it to be done, so give me feedback and let me know what you think!

And a million thanks to everyone who has chimed in here with a donated breeding. I'm totally floored by this. You guys are really great. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I will update the list of stallions later on today, hopefully. (Gotta go do some work for my real job now.)

Oh, and DH, I could definitely use assistance with graphics... text and HTML I can handle, but the visual arts ain't exactly my thing. So I will definitely get in touch with you about that.

And if you guys do want to try to do an ad, we can certainly work on that... we already did it once for Cactuskate! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Although the article would also serve as a way to promote the auction. (If we decide not to wait til January, I might be able to write up a very short newsy thing for In The Country.)

[RolexH]

My name is Lisa Hawk. I am Aiden's mommy. Robby emailed me today and told me about his! I really had no idea. I mean it. I know Fred said somehting about donating Mr. Fred, but I have been so busy in an out of the hospital I never check any other forums. Can you imagine my surprise when I get an email from Robby saying that COTH is going to do an article on my baby and those who are donating their stallion!?! I was shocked.

I was reading this thread and started out with my eyes buldging then they began to fill with tears. I just can't beleive it. Aiden is so lucky. Any parent would just cry knowing so many love their child. Since he was born I have tried so hard to keep postive and stay strong. I just know he will live and do well. I sometimes turn off the emotions. I sort of just float. But you reminded me just what a special baby and special group of people that are here at COTH. God Bless you so much. I can't wait to get off the pc and call my husband. He will be so shocked.

Thank you everyone. Thank you for praying and thank you for this huge gift.

XO

~~Lisa~~
Save a life, be an organ donor

[Equine Connection]

Hey Erin: From my own standpoint, I would think it would be fine to leave the bids open until after the article is published. In fact, if the article comes out in January, you may want to publish an early-mid February closing date (how about the 14th - Valentine's Day - the AWS also uses 2/14 for their bid closing date). January-February is the normal bid closing times for a number of auctions. Anyway, just a suggestion.

Again, thanks for your detailed information and efforts. We look forward to donating a breeding to such a worthy cause. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

"HAPPY HOUR" & Hawk's Run Trakehners
http://www.happyhour1.com

[aurum]

I have not known about that thread before Andria Manecke from Montana posted about it on my yahoo group. If that is of interest I would donate three doses of frozen semen of my stallion Morgengold II, which is already stored in the USA to facilitate it. I don't know if frozen semen is of interest, but I can tell that his semen is excellent with about 75% motility post thawing.

Gwen
http://www.gestuet-falkenhorst.de
Exceptional colored German WB Sporthorses

[Portia]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Celtic Witch:
Am heading back to the States in a month and will be happy to donate a breeding to my stallion, Rendement (Burggraaf x Nurzeus).

Susie<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Burggraff and Nurzeus? What the real Portia (Pikadero/Prinz Gaylord, OV main mare book) wouldn't give to have a baby with those lines! Except she's just getting ready to start jumping in the Opens and isn't ready to retire to have babies yet.

Mmmmmmm.... How long does frozen semen last? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[This message was edited by Portia on Oct. 23, 2002 at 11:52 AM.]

[Portia]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by denny:
Count us in for a Loyal Pal donation. Buyer pays shipping fees or mare board. Live foal? How are people doing this?
Denny and May Emerson<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh Denny! Welcome (So all we needed was a really good cause to finally make you come out of lurkerdom. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ) How wonderful of you, and Loyal Pal! What a boy he is!

Jennifer Price (from the USOC hearing and the annual meetings)

"Offense MEANT!" Armand Leone, Jr. to David O'Connor and Linda Allen, Sept. 25, 2002

[Spot]

There is a wide range of stallions available from Live Cover to AI with fresh cooled, so frozen would be no problem at all. As long as the potential bidders are aware that they are bidding on frozen semen, there wouldnt be a problem.
And one poster is donating an egg from her mare, so it is a very diverse offering for sure!

Rolex H - It is an honor to be associated with this auction for Aiden.
BUt geez - after reading Fred's post on one week after Bobby and now your post here, I am bawling my eyes out ...

I think this is probably going to be the best silent stallion auction ever and I honestly cant think of a better cause than this one to be involved in.
It's fun, its gratifying and its for the best cause ever - how can we go wrong?

"Spot"

[Majestic Gaits]

Well, I'll help! All the information on him is on his webpage, so whoever is putting this together can get it from there.

Kathy
www.majesticgaits.com (http://www.majesticgaits.com)
kathy@majesticgaits.com

Majestic Gaits - Dutch Warmbloods, Standing Approved KWPN stallion Navarone
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[Celtic Witch]

I am definitely for having a closing date in February. As far reaching as the bulletin board is, an article in The Chronicle itself could drum up bags of bids.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Burggraff and Nurzeus? What the real Portia (Pikadero/Prinz Gaylord, OV main mare book) wouldn't give to have a baby with those lines! Except she's just getting ready to start jumping in the Opens and isn't ready to retire to have babies yet.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I'm easy. I'd hold your booking until Miss Portia is ready. Good luck to you. I've seen photos of her posted in the past and she is quite the looker!

Susie

[Robby Johnson]

what an amazing woman!

This is such an excellent cause. I'm so happy to be part of sharing it, and so humbled and inspired by the wonderful stallion owners who have donated services.

Robby

You may be only one person in the world, but you may also be the world to one person.

[crestline]

Andria Manecke emailed me about this too. We would love to include our pinto Dutch stallion Palladio in such a great cause. If you don't know Palladio he is a son of the great Caletto I out of a Samber/L.Ronald (Ramiro) mare. Due to the limited breeding we have with ISR/OLDNA we will have to specify registration that is available for the resulting foal from this breeding...will that be a problem or will each stallion have it's own particulars listed?

So happy we could help with this!
AndreaClibborn-AndersonCrestline Farm (http://www.crestlinefarm.com)

Andrea Clibborn
www.crestlinefarm.com (http://www.crestlinefarm.com)
Home of Pinto Dutch Warmblood Palladio

[Spot]

Great! Another stallion!
And Crestline - Andrea its great to have you and Palladio on board as well!

If I may make a suggestion on behalf of poor, beleagured Erin - can you please email her the info on your stallion - name, height, age, color, performance history, breed registry, all of your farm info and web site/email info, if you are offering him Live Cover or AI and what additional charges will apply if the mare either boards at your farm, or if you are shipping semen.
Send Erin the picture of your stallion you want featured in the promo ads.

Is the first collection free - or will they be expected to pay for all collections and if so - how much?
What about container costs?
What are the limitations on collection days?
What breed registry will the foal will be eligible for?
What your particular Live Foal guarantee means - I think everyone might have a different stipulation in this area.
What other particulars and stipulations do you have for breeding to your stallion?

I think the more we spell all of this out for Erin, the less looking and guessing she will need to do and the easier and clearer it will be for all concerned.

"Spot"

[Hattie]

Galatois is too tempting for me! I saw his video in 2000 - such a nice stallion

[Sonesta]

Denny! Welcome to the board! Your input will be invaluable.

Remember Shannon Slyfield from ages ago? She says tell you hello.

Sonesta Farms (http://www.sonestafarms.com) Hanoverian, Knabstrupper & Arabian Sport Horses

"Find something you love & call it work."

[Sandbarhorse]

I am so impressed with your willingness to donate breedings to so many WONDERFUL stallions!! What an incredible place this BB is and what an incredible bunch of BBers!!

I wish I had a stallion to donate a breeding for, just so that I could be a part of such a wonderful event.

Unfortunately, I have no stallion and I doubt anyone would be interested in an egg from my 3 yr. old, unshown, breeding stock APHA filly. She's priceless to me, but I'm realistic, LOL.

One thing I think you should consider adding is whether the breeding could be puchased for future use or must be this breeding season. Of course, you'd have to add that it would be the purchaser's risk as refunds can't be made.

[EqChick]

Just in case some of you might like to visit - there's another thread in Off Course with recent pictures of Baby Aiden himself!

I'm going to try to put a link here to it, but in case it doesn't work, go to Off Course: Baby Aiden's LUCKY First Ride!!

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

So tell me again how the 40 Hour Standard was created? I think my boss was busy...

[RolexH]

Thanks Eqchick for posting them they are adorable! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ( I am bias too)

Here is one picture of Aiden on Lucky. It was meant to be. There was Lucky, with that name, and Aiden (the luckiest baby ever) it was perfect! LuckyDuck was so sweet to let Aiden sit on him. I wasn't even nervous with Lucky being a stallion. He is sweet as pie. I will treasure Aiden's first ride, it is all the more special though that it was on this horse. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

~~Lisa~~
Save a life, be an organ donor

[Whitehedge Farm]

I would love to participate!

I just started reading the Aiden thread last night and nobody had emailed me about donating...... so hope that I got in in time!

I just had a baby boy in Sept. so the story about Aiden hit close to home...what a wonderful way that we can help out this precious child!

We will donate a breeding to our Elite Hanoverian stallion, Cabalito (also approved Oldenburg Verband).
He is a VERY fancy up and coming young hunter sire and his first foals have been outstanding. I checked with him and he would be glad to help out!

http://www.whitehedgefarm.com
Standing *Cabalito* Elite
Hanoverian stallion.

[sid]

I'm sorry I was not following this thread before tonight when Spot put out the "calling all stallion owners" post.

Of course...I'd be honored to donate breedings to Boleem, Argosy and King's Camelot.

Someone can e-mail me for details for the particulars (AI stuff, etc.) on breeding. Just let me know what I can do.

This is terrific!

Susan Doner, Little Bull Run Farm. Standing Boleem, Argosy and King's Camelot. www.littlebullrun.com (http://www.littlebullrun.com)

[Spot]

Thanks a bunch! What lovely stallions you both have!

This is truly amazing. What started out as Fred donating a breeding to "Fred", and then a couple other stallion owners jumping on as well, has escalated into probably one of the fanciest, most diverse and nicest offerings I have ever seen in a stallion auction.

Just when you think there are no more stallions left to be included, more generous owners step up and do so.

Poor Erin!

I think she envisioned a couple of stallions and a one page blurb somewhere and minimal time to put it all together. Now Robby is involved as chief interviewer and literary genius! And many others stepping up to help with the graphic layouts and web page designing.

I am impressed beyond words at what is unfolding!

And Lisa - little Aiden sure looks like a natural up there! But you gotta teach him to point those heels down! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Have you ever thought about approaching the Liver Foundation about making him the poster child for their organization? How could anyone resist after seeing him up there! That picture speaks 1000 words and may be just what they need to get fund raising projects off the ground!

"Spot"

[Equine Connection]

"If I may make a suggestion on behalf of poor, beleagured Erin - can you please email her the info on your stallion - name, height, age, color, performance history, breed registry, all of your farm info and web site/email info, if you are offering him Live Cover or AI and what additional charges will apply if the mare either boards at your farm, or if you are shipping semen.
Send Erin the picture of your stallion you want featured in the promo ads."

"Is the first collection free - or will they be expected to pay for all collections and if so - how much?
"What about container costs?
What are the limitations on collection days?
What breed registry will the foal will be eligible for?
What your particular Live Foal guarantee means - I think everyone might have a different stipulation in this area.
What other particulars and stipulations do you have for breeding to your stallion?

I think the more we spell all of this out for Erin, the less looking and guessing she will need to do and the easier and clearer it will be for all concerned."

While a good bit of this information can be (and already has) been relayed to Erin, it's still the responsibility (and is imperative) that mare owners contact the individual stallion owner(s) (prior to bidding) with regard to their specific breeding contract and requirements, and if the mare owner desires a video of a particular stallion(s), so that nothing gets lost in the translation. The level of communication should be a two-way street, which minimizes chances of potential misunderstanding and will better provide for a more enjoyable, stress-free and positive relationship for all. I think it may be a bit more of a burden to Erin if she has to dissect all of the information for each and every stallion. Granted, much information can be provided; however, I believe it is most important to initiate and maintain an open line of communication between the mare and stallion owners - whether or not the breeding is donated.

"HAPPY HOUR" & Hawk's Run Trakehners
http://www.happyhour1.com

[The Horseman]

I would be more then happy to donate a breeding to "Brierwood" for little Aiden! That's what ponies are for! Children! It is heart warming to see such an outpouring of care and concern from the horse community for this child. "Brierwood" is an up and coming young pony stallion standing in Maryland. Count us in for this noble cause! Together we can all make a difference! See "Brierwood" and his offspring at:
www.geocities.com/brierwoodstud/index.htm (http://www.geocities.com/brierwoodstud/index.htm)

[jreventer]

I agree with Nikitta-
I wish I had a stallion so I could donate:) but not yet...

I would be happy to donate money to help with an ad in COTH for the auction. Will distribute flyers, help with any thing else that needs to be done (website, etc.).

Wish I had a mare I could bred, so many lovely stallions to choose from but unfortunately all my mares are too old or have proven they don't want to carry a baby:)

"There are times when you can trust a horse, time when you can't, and times when you have to."

www.boo.riana.com (http://www.boo.riana.com)

[pintofoal]

So add another one /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[Spot]

Pintofoal and Gwen - I was hoping that you WOULDNT donate a breeding to Apollon!
I LOVE that stallion!
Now I have to go out and find me another mare to breed to him - like a nice black or dark bay ...

AAggghhhh ...

Equine Connection - you raise some excellent points about some/a lot of the questions needing to be addressed between Mare and Stallion owners.
If our email addresses could also be included in the profiles, then potential bidders can ask the Stallion Owners before they start bidding on particular stallion, any questions or concerns they may have.

"Spot"

[Equine Connection]

"Equine Connection - you raise some excellent points about some/a lot of the questions needing to be addressed between Mare and Stallion owners.
If our email addresses could also be included in the profiles, then potential bidders can ask the Stallion Owners before they start bidding on particular stallion, any questions or concerns they may have."

Spot - Thanks for your feedback. I've found through experience that the more clearly details are understood up front, the better chances for a smooth, pleasant and successful experience for all. I think by mare owners obtaining specific breeding contract and other pertinent information up front & before bidding on a particular stallion, this will greatly assist them in making a more informed decision. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

"HAPPY HOUR" & Hawk's Run Trakehners
http://www.happyhour1.com

[Fred]

I just wanted to be able to so something to help. I felt so helpless and so moved by Lisa's posts, so humbled by the courage they were showing in the face of the situation they were facing. I hate feeling helpless - so I just wanted to be able to give something that I could give - that might raise more funds and awarenss of Aiden's situation. Now,
I am totally floored and incredibly gratified by the scope of the response.
Thank you everyone!
This BB is truly a community - diverse people united by our love for horses, and now, united in our goal to help Baby Aiden.
again, thank you all.
Gail
xoxo

[crystalacresponies]

You guys are all so generous. Makes me proud to be a member of this board. My horse is already booked to a stallion and my pony is injured, so I wont even be able to bid. Unless everyone decides the breedings can be for 2003 or 2004???? Anyway, I'm in if the mare owners want to get together and place an ad. Good luck Rolex and baby Aiden!!!

Dreaming of pinto ponies!

[Erin]

Equine Connection does make a good point... I'll try to provide as much information as possible on the auction website, along with links back to each stallion's website (if they have one), but I'll also make sure that potential bidders contact the stallion owners before they make a bid. Then each stallion owner has the opportunity to make sure each bidder knows all the intricacies that will be involved.

And yes, poor Erin indeed! I'm afraid to count up and figure out how many stallions there are now! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Nah, it's all in the name of a good cause. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Nikita]

Now that I'm (hopefully) on a computer that won't crash every few minutes....

Thanks to the others that have said they're willing to donate towards the ad. With 6800+ members of this board we should be able to get the money for a full page ad! I just want to let as many people as possible know about this auction so we can get the bids up and more money for Aiden.

Erin, before I do a separate post asking mare owners for donations towards the COTH ad, any suggestions for how to handle the money? Do you want people to send it to you with a note that it's to be put towards the ad or are we going to swamp you if we add one more thing to you?

Anybody have any suggestions about the best way to do it?

[Fred]

and not overload Erin (too many details/too many opportunities for misunderstanding)
What I would like to suggest is that we provide Erin with the basics:
a photo
a BRIEF description of the stallion, including breed, age, height, registries approved/licenced for
-normal stud fee
-link to web page if applicable
-indicate whether available by TS LC or FS
- whether it is LF
and conditions: ie mareowner responsible for lab/collection fees ($200) and shipping (for example)
for specific conditions and costs it is the responsibility of the mare owner to contact the stallion owner or agent before bidding. (this line is always included in any stallion service auction I have seen) this is to clarify any specific questions ie days of collection etc.
stallion owner contact #'s and/or email

does that sound agreeable to the other stallion owners?
I have a bidding form from the CSHA which was modelled on the form from the AHHA which I could fax to you Erin if you like.

also, if this isn't too confusing, usually mare owners may bid on more than one stallion (indicating the bid amount for each) If only ONE breeding is desired, the mare owner also indicates her order of preference should she be the winning bidder on both.

[Tawna24]

List of stallions I see so far-(sorry if I have missed anyone, or inadvertantly added one- please confirm if wrong)- then username.

1. A Fine Romance - Fred
2. Nevada - Fairview Horse Center
3. Art Deco, Hall of Fame, State of the Art, Spectrum- Pinto foal
4. Remarkable - HFSH
5. Sato - Spot
6. Prince Quick - Luckyduck
7. Brigade CF - Ghazzu
8. Tramino - Mirrabook
9. Rowfantina's Little Percy - Erika-(Name?)
10. Branco - Allyn M
11. Caruso - Carol Lawrence of Willowlake Farm
12. Maxamillion - Tawna24 (Me:)
13. (Buyers choice) - Norsire
14. F.E. Copper Top, El Ghazi Legacy - Freehold
15. Fyre One - Sonesta
16. Rendement - Celtic Witch
17. Winston - Rusti
18. Galatois - Premiere
19. Loyal Pal - Denny
20. Happy Hour - Equine Connection
21. Guaranteed Gold - Ggold
22. Morgengold II - Aurum
23. Navarone - Majestic Gaits
24. Palladio - crestline
25. Cabalito - Whitehedge Farm
26. Boleem, Argosy and King's Camelot - sid
27. Brierwood - The Horseman
28. Apollon - Pintofoal & Gwen

WHEW!! ok- Actually the count is more than 28, as you can see, by some of the generous ones who donated more than one stallion. Hope this helps you out some Erin, and also will help everyone see who has offered so far. Like I said before- if any of them are incorrect, Please forgive me and note corrections. Thanks!!

What a WONDERFUL board to be part of!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

www.GoldenVentureFarm.com (http://www.GoldenVentureFarm.com)
Standing: "Maxamillion" Buckskin tobinao ASB/DWB cross. No Samber lines.

[suzette]

I am coming in late on this one! That's what I get for not checking in for a while! I miss out on all the excitement!

COUNT ME IN! How could anybody say 'no' to a cause like this?
I will donate a breeding to ONE of my stallions - whichever one gets the higher bid. I know my boyz will be very happy to pitch in.

I will be happy to pass on details to whoever is going to be the designated info-collector (poor Erin).

Karousel Farms, Home of Approved FEI Trakehner stallions Meistersinger and Kreshendo

http://www.geocities.com/karousel_farms/

[suzette]

Here is the other boy.

[Erin]

Oh gawd... Tawna, did you have to do that? /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif My head hurts just looking at it... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I have another couple who have emailed me and haven't posted on the boards. I'll add those to the "master list" from home tonight.

OK, Fred (or someone)... explain to me exactly how the bidding process should work. I was just going to have people email me their bids, but does it need to be something more "binding" than that? Like something with an actual signature?

If we need a form, I could set up an online version, but I don't know how "official" all this has to be... and if it would be better to have something physically mailed or faxed to me.

Fred, I'll send you an email with my fax number here at work so you can send me the form you have.

[Erin]

Oh, about the ad... while we certainly could do something like that, Robby tells me his article will actually be running in late November, I think? So that will go a long way in getting word out about the auction.

If you all want to do an ad, though, that's fine with me. We could probably do the same as with the Cactuskate ad, and have people send checks made out to me, and then I cash them and write one check to COTH. Or someone else could do the same thing... I usually just volunteer myself for these things because people (hopefully /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ) trust me not to run off to Tahiti with their money. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Here are the ad rates:

http://www.chronofhorse.com/display_info_advrates.html

[Tawna24]

Just trying to help /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif You need some Tylenol?? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Now that I see the list- My GOODNESS!! A TON of stallions, and not even the FULL list!!

Going to be a GGGRREEAATTT auction!

www.GoldenVentureFarm.com (http://www.GoldenVentureFarm.com)
Standing: "Maxamillion" Buckskin tobinao ASB/DWB cross. No Samber lines.

[Erin]

I was living in the blissful state of denial, thinking that there really weren't THAT many stallions involved... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[HFSH]

Yes, I would suggest putting together some sort of form they will need to sign if you do it by mail. Are you doing the yahoo online bidding like the AHS does? That's really fun!!! (hint hint hint)

Home of the RPSI & AWR approved stallion, Remarkable. Homozygous for BLACK!
The ALL NEW *I hate Physical Therapy Clique* |*MidWest Clique* | *Crippled Knee Clique*

[Jeanne]

Ok, ok, I am definitely going to bid! I LOVE that horse! Let's get this puppy going. I hadn't planned to breed next year, but for a cause like this, what a great excuse!
It is so exciting to get such choices!

[Erin]

HFHS, what's the Yahoo thing?

I was just going to collect bids by email, and then notify the winner. Obviously the winner would need to sign a contract with the stallion owner and all of that stuff... but if there's something more binding needed for a bid, just let me know how it should be set up. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Justbay]

I just wanted to say Thanks to all of the stallion owners who are participating in this great cause! The COTHBB is truly an amazing goup of indiviuals.

[pintofoal]

With your blessings, I'd be happy to donate the web space and set up a page to show off the auction studs at studbook.com I haven't maintained that site for a while--it hasn't been active, but the URL sure brings in the traffic and I have tons of space on my server. I can even set up a form for easy information and set up the site that way + email the form to Erin. If this is Okey Dokey with everyone I can set it up like the IRC stallion page ( http://www.coloredhorses.com/stallions.html ) have a small photo of each stallion, etc. Also I think it's been decided to have a silent auction, but if that changes to online bidding IRC used a great program that I could also set up for on-line bidding, then we wouldn't be at the mercy of Yahoo or Ebay, which as the Han people know was somewhat of a nightmare last year. Anyways, thoughts please

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[Tawna24]

That sounds like a WONDERFUL suggestion/offering. I am sure that would take a TON of stress off of Erin!! She could collect the info and forward on to you for the site:)

Bidding through your suggestion sounds like it may run a bit smoother than yahoo or e-bay. Might be a bit more trackable and slightly more reliable/easier to oversee and weed out the "fake" bidders that don't follow through. Besides, doesn't e-bay have a thing about no "Live animals" or something like that? Yahoo might be different, and not be a problem. I know we aren't selling the stallions- but I still think it rides a fine line, and we wouldn't want to put all of the info up and have it get pulled for some reason or another. I think a privately run site (like yours, etc..) would be less "controlled" by a non-horsey moderator. (They might not think it's a "publically proper" auction, and place it into the "Horse pimping" file to be removed- if you know what I mean /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif What I am saying (Long whinded of course) is that I think it would be much easier to do it like you suggested. Therefore, making it easier on the bidders and in the end resulting in a large donation from the COTH group.

What does everyone else think??

www.GoldenVentureFarm.com (http://www.GoldenVentureFarm.com)
Standing: "Maxamillion" Buckskin tobinao ASB/DWB cross. No Samber lines.

[Erin]

Liz, I just might take you up on that! Let me start sorting through the information this weekend and see where we're at. Then I'll figure out if I'm in over my head. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I know that it was very important to several stallion owners that this be a silent auction, as they didn't want their good deed to be "punished" by having their stallion go for a relatively low bid and having that amount be public knowledge.

But, if there's a way to automatically do the bidding and still have it be silent, that would probably be fine. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Spot]

we're up to 35 wonderful stallions including Suzette's and the multiple's involved.

Erin - do you realize we could actually get up to 50 stallions, which is totally mind boggling???!!!

Tawna24 - you DID have to go and burst the bubble and let Erin know exactly how many there were, didnt you???

"Spot"

[Tawna24]

Yep- thats me!!! The preverbial bubble burster!! I guess someone must step up to the plate and bring reality to the HUGE task this is going to be- Organizing everything /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Just think- my list is just a rough draft!!! YEOWZER!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

All the work will be WELL worth it in the end:)

Not trying to freak Erin out- just trying to help. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

www.GoldenVentureFarm.com (http://www.GoldenVentureFarm.com)
Standing: "Maxamillion" Buckskin tobinao ASB/DWB cross. No Samber lines.

[HFSH]

You can set up a Yahoo Auction, where we can follow the live bidding.

AHS has done it for several years. The key is to set it up correctly, and also to be SURE Yahoo is aware you are not selling horses, just breeding services (semen). AHS had a little trouble last year with that but it was clarified.

Bidders have to have a Yahoo account to bid, which is easy as they are free. All bidding then goes through that, or you can also have snail mail bidding too, with a note on the yahoo bidding saying that if the on-line bidder is outbid by mail... you get the idea.

But if Liz is willing to do hers, that'd be great too!

Sometimes the live bidding really gets people going (kinda like Ebay, you know).

Home of the RPSI & AWR approved stallion, Remarkable. Homozygous for BLACK!
The ALL NEW *I hate Physical Therapy Clique* |*MidWest Clique* | *Crippled Knee Clique*

[Louise]

I have to say that I am having a hard time holding back on bidding for a breeding. My mantra for the last few days has been "Promise is 19, a maiden mare, with a bad pelvis and chronic colic."

But, ohhh, if Hennessy was still alive, and of breeding age!!!

Count me in for a monitary donation in whatever way will be most helpful.

---------------------------
"We are what we repeatedly do.
Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit.
Aristotle

[Weatherford]

This is absolutely AMAZING!!

Robby, did your friend with the ID sign on?

I wonder if we could get a donation from an ISH... Will see what I can do...

Amazing and thanks to EVERYONE who has worked so hard - especially ERIN!!!

19 year member of the New Hope clique! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Robby Johnson]

but she's at the National Show here in Kentucky this week. I could email her next week when she's back and sane (they were taking 7).

She's a wonderful girl, I can't speak for her but I'd be surprised if she didn't. Her name is Brandy Sells and the farm is Oak Hill Irish Draught (www.oakhillirishdraught.com (http://www.oakhillirishdraught.com)) and the stallion is Glenlara, a wonderful RID.

Robby

You may be only one person in the world, but you may also be the world to one person.

[Erin]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HFSH:
Sometimes the live bidding really gets people going (kinda like Ebay, you know).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hrm. But this also means that everyone knows the final bid, right?

I really think the auction needs to stay silent. If there's a way to do that online that's not too much trouble, that'd be great... although it'd probably be just as easy for me to take email bids.

Question... in a silent auction, do you notify someone if their bid is exceeded? Would I need to list the current leading bidder for each horse or something? Or is it just "tough cookies" for a mare owner if they're outbid? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Another question (which I think Fairview Horse Center emailed to me, but I already closed my mail and don't quite remember)... does anyone have experience with stallion auctions being done for charity, and how they handle the payment? FHC's point was that if anything happened to the stallion and the owner wasn't able to fulfill the contract, how would the money be refunded if they check had been written to the ALF? Any suggestions for how to handle that?

Robby's article is going to run in late November, so how about opening bids the first week of December? Does that sound good to everyone? Any suggestions for how long the bids should be open for?

Boy, I'm going to know more than I ever wanted to about breeding before this is done, aren't I? /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[denny]

I`ve been thinking how this needs to work. Let`s say it`s live foal guarantee, and the stud fee purchaser has sent the money to our fund manager for Baby Aiden. Then her mare doesn`t get in foal, or gets in foal, but some months later slips, or eventually delivers a foal that doesn`t make it.
Now what? Does the money have to be sent back, as I assume must be the case, and if so, must our fund not keep a certain amount in escrow against such an eventuality?
What if we do this deal "no guarantee"? The bids would be lower, but we would know that all the money would be available for our cause.
I`m not advocating any specific way to do this, but unless we get some coordination, it could turn into a logistical nightmare. Why don`t we appoint a small committee, inc.Erin, Robbie, an attorney, etc. to come up with a plan. I`m sure we would all do whatever they would feel is in the best interests of our goal, which is maximum help for the family.
Any thoughts from people a lot smarter than me about logistical details?
Denny

[Badger]

How about a free return for the next season if the breeding doesn't result in a live foal? That way the mare owner gets a second shot if something doesn't go right, Baby Aiden keeps the money, and that stallion owner has a definite deadline for how long they are working for.

I've bid and won a breeding in one of the warmblood auctions before. I think we were required to send in a check to the organization along with our bid. When the bidding was closed, the winning check was deposited and when it cleared the winner was notified and the other checks were returned. As a mare owner, I had checked out details of contract, shipping and collecting fees, etc., with the stallion owner in advance.

One question: will we be able to place bids so that if you don't win for Stallion A your bid can be considered for another Stallion you are interested in?

Say a one-mare breeder would love to breed to A Fine Romance, Loyal Pal or Happy Hour in that order. The mare owner wouldn't want to place multiple bids (only wants to win one breeding, not three). Can a bid be placed to cover all those stallions? In the above example, a bid of $1100 might be placed, and it would first go to the bidder's first choice, but if outbid on Fred then the bid would go to the second choice but if outbid on Loyal Pal would then go the the third wonderful choice, but if outbid there the bid would lose and be returned. Some people might only be interested in one specific stallion and only bid on that offering, but someone else might be happy with any of several of the fine choices.

Don't take life so seriously...it's not permanent.

[onetempies]

It probably would be a good idea to have some sort of "general contract" made up for the general public to view and agree upon before making their bids. Then have this sent in along with their bids if via snail mail... so that all who bid are acknowledging to you (Erin or group in charge of this) that they are aware of the terms and conditions of the stallion auction. Make sense? Do we have any COTH members in the attorney field that would be willing to draw up a contract of this sort for the auction? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif:

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Show goals achieved & Sass is in foal! 4 months down... about 7 more to go.

We've got STANLEY! Wings Rock!

[Fairview Horse Center]

My suggestion to Erin was to have a 2003 season, non-refundable clause, with an option to extend if the stallion is available for a LFG. Possibly offer a choice of a few stallions (if any of the owners are willing) as a "back-up" in case a winning bidder's #1 stallion is hurt and is no longer breedable. Even maybe offer choice of any stallions that do not receive a bid (there are always very nice stallions in every auction that for one reason or another don't??) If all bidders knew that "up front" it would be fair, and would not obligate the fund to refund money.

I would just want to protect our "fund" as much as possible. I personally would be happy to honor my normal live foal guarantee as long as my boy is able to breed, but what if he is not, for one reason or another the 2nd year? Refunding a "paid stud fee" is not a problem, but many stallion owners would not be able to refund a winning bid that they did not receive money.

I would also be quite happy to have a 2nd breeding from my stallion to be available as an "insurance policy" in case someone's winning stallion becomes unavailable.

Does that make any sense? (Sorry, it has been a long day, and my first foal by my young stalliuon left this afternoon for her new home) /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Darlyn
http://www.fairviewhorsecenter.com

Are We Having Fun Yet?

[Jeannette, formerly ponygyrl]

She either ran the auction last new years or at least is involved with the organization which ran the auction (where I won my breeding to Rep /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )

'Course, the whole Cryostar discussion may have scared her off the board and/or auctions, but she's got real live experience doing it...

As I recall, to register to bid on their site, you had to give some realworld contact info, and probably there was a confirmation e-mail. There was also an Opt-In button you had to punch before bidding, promising that you really were good for the money.

Once I sent my money to the charity, they contacted Tamarack and let them know I had paid, I think.

How many owners want the bidding "sealed envelope" so to speak?? I definitely bid more than once in that auction, from seeing higher bids go on the boards - though I guess if I had just gotten an e-mail saying "You have been outbid" I would still have re-bid, without the bid amounts being so public.

Worth thinking carefully how long you want bidding to be open (aka how long some lucky catherder wants to sit glued to her computer, bombarded by e-mails...)

[pintofoal]

"I personally would be happy to honor my normal live foal guarantee as long as my boy is able to breed, but what if he is not, for one reason or another the 2nd year? "

I agree with Fairview, whenever I have donated breedings before (which has been a lot to various bred registries, good causes, etc.) I honor those breedings under my contract, which is a LFG for 4 years--no refunds, but the owner can switch mares, etc., if need be or if for some reason (Lord forbid) one of the stallions could not fulfill his duties we offer another. I treat those breedings the same as if they had bought it directly from me and it is governed by the same contract. I would think though a small escrow or a possible swap of stallions would be a good thing if for some reason a stallion cannot fulfill his duties under the owners stallion contract, especially if it has a refund clause. So I would guess a general concessus of what everyone's contracts clauses are concerning LFG would be in order.

Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com (http://silverwoodfarm.com)
Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions

[Spot]

(for what it is worth!)
/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
is that we are all offering a live foal guarantee, and if the mare doesnt catch, slips, or the foal doesnt stand and nurse when born, the mare owner would have a return breeding privelege the following year only under the provision of the contract.
Once breeding season 2004 ends, and the mare still hasnt caught, then my obligation as stallion owner would be over and done with.

That is the way my breeding contract reads and that would be the provision and stipulation I would also make with this donated breeding.

"Spot"

[Celtic Witch]

My understanding as well is that this will be serviced under my normal breeding contract, whatever the donation garnered. Which, in addition to additional costs for either mare care or semen collection and shipment deposits, also provides for a normal 2 year LFG.

Susie

[Majestic Gaits]

I think it is important to state that the winning bidder is bidding on a non refundable stud fee. This is a one time auction and once the money is all in, it will be sent off and gone. The stallion owner can not return it nor can the auction or RolexH return the money. My contract with the winning bidder for our stallion Navarone will be for a breeding live foal standing and nursing over 2 years.

Our previous stallion Aram died last year right in the middle of breeding season and I have to say, regardless of the contracts, it is a mess to deal with. If this should happen to one of us stallion owners donating, god forbid! then we certainly could not refund money that we never got.

I can't remember but I thought that there is no tax deduction advantages to the donation. Does anyone know?

As for my vote, I like the idea of doing the bidding online, but not so sure it is a good idea to make the bids public. I do like the idea that if people put in a bid they could be told if they are outbid, so they have a chance to put a higher one in. That way only the highest bidder would know what the highest bid is. Not sure this is possible. Whatever you all decide is fine by me.

Kathy

Majestic Gaits - Dutch Warmbloods, Standing Approved KWPN stallion Navarone
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[cherham]

Can someone tell me where to find the list of participating stallions. I have not logged on in a few days and noticed 7 pages of posts.

It might be posted in there somewhere actually.

[Tin]

What if we try to contact e-bay, yahoo or perhaps an online auction that e-bay has taken over? Perhaps one would be generous to offer a short time use of their resources? A click of a button on their part would make it "silent" and that way bidders would go through a registration check as well.

Do you think they would or is that just wishful thinking?

oh and you guys ALL rock!

~ Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once ~

[RolexH]

My husband and I are so amazed at all of this. So many people like Gail think we are so strong. Everyone asks us how do you do it? How can we NOT be strong? We have the strength of so many behind us. I imagine myself standing, and when I feel faint and begin to fall, I look to you guys. Your arms pull me back up, and your words quickly help me refocus. I rememer one time I was so sad and posted how I was afraid I was going to loose him. I was so afraid, and began to loose the strength. People posted to me things like, "Refocus, you have a task to do." "Keep strong". etc... It took only minutes and I was on my feet again. YOU GUYS DO THAT FOR US! Thank you. I thank God for those beautiful creatures, the amazing stallions that you are donating. It is so outstanding.

Sorry for running on and on. We really appreciate this. My whole family does.

~~Lisa~~
Save a life, be an organ donor

[RolexH]

......(we have a trakhener mare out of Eligius...my Uncle has her now, hmm maybe she wants a baby. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

Here is a picture of Aiden you might have seen it. He is all decked out for his first ride.

Also here is his web page. You can go there or email me if you would like to be on his email update list. The web page has updates, pics, and his story.

www.hometown.aol.com/rolexh/Aidenshope.html (http://www.hometown.aol.com/rolexh/Aidenshope.html)

~~Lisa~~
Save a life, be an organ donor

[mirrabook]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I would also be quite happy to have a 2nd breeding from my stallion to be available as an "insurance policy" in case someone's winning stallion becomes unavailable.

Darlyn
http://www.fairviewhorsecenter.com <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree with FHC ... our two boys will have LFG with rebreed for the 2nd/3rd years if no live foal and would be prepared to have a 2nd breeding to one of the boys in case someone's stallion could not fullfill the obligation.

In fact, in all our years of donating to various auctons, we have backed up another stallion in two separate years where the original stallion was unavailable for any number of reasons. More important to see the babies on the ground ... and the money raised for a worthwhile cause so, definitely there can be no refunds.

Cherham .... go back to page 6 and you will see a partial list of stallions ... after that you will have to just read the posts. I believe there are some not listed yet and Erin expects to have the full list up after the weekend.

Marilyn

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Canadian Warmblood and Westfalen breeders; home of Artenstolz, Gelan, Kingston & Tramino

[DMK]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> As for my vote, I like the idea of doing the bidding online, but not so sure it is a good idea to make the bids public. I do like the idea that if people put in a bid they could be told if they are outbid, so they have a chance to put a higher one in. That way only the highest bidder would know what the highest bid is. Not sure this is possible. Whatever you all decide is fine by me. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If it is possible to show the current high bid (and we know it is - we have the technology /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ), it must be possible to show the current high bidder in lieu of th ehigh bid amount.

Perhaps a good compromise would be for every bidder to register with a username, and the bidding could show the name of the current high bidder along with when the bid was placed. For instance if I registered as "DMK" (how original) and I was bidding on a stallion (challenging, considering I have 3 geldings right now), I could see when my bid was topped. Obviously I wouldn't know how much, but if I raised my bid by $100 and still didn't become the top bidder, I know I would need to up it more. Conversely, if I raised it $300 and became top bidder, I wouldn't know if I overshot the mark by $299 or $1. That's the beauty of silent auctions. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)

[stegall]

Hello-I am just back on tonight (see off course dell topic) and someone pointed out I was mentioned here, so I popped in to see what I could offer.

Yes, I was involved with the first ever stallion auction to benefit the CT Agricultural Education foundation. Last year being the first time, we had some Kinks to work out-including some very unforseen issues. however, we had an excellent group of donated stallions-which we were greatful for.

And by the way, I would like to apologize to anyone who had difficulties of any sort last year, I will be the first to admit that there were some glitches. However, the committee wanted to try again this year, so we carefully reviewed everything (and used it to learn from), so we have a whole new program (including electronic instant bidding). Hopefully there are no leftover hard feelings anywhere.

OK-on to the subject at hand:
After ending up feeling like people with torches were coming to get me after last year-I will point out some facts and necessities, and help in anyway I can. I think its WONDERFUL that COTH members once again rise to the occasion of someone in need.

1: Always have an upfront explanation of the bidding process, as well as rules, and the fact that bids are considered a contract between the stallion owner and the bidder. This should be in the form of a pop up window that people need to get "through" before they can bid-with some sort of "acknowledgement" button.
2: In every auction I have ever seen/dealt with, the bottom line is the stallion owners contract is in effect with no exceptions. People must be made aware that it is their responsibility to read and understand the owners contract before placing the bid. Every stallion has a different contract.
3:legalese: make it clear that the charity does NOT have a relationship with the stallion owners (who are so very generous to donate their breedings) and makes no guarantees as to the soundness, pedigree, offspring or performance record of the stallion. All info should be verified by the bidder prior to breeding.
4:payment-we found it is almost impossible to make someone pay after they have bid but dont want to pay after all. You can chase them with a lawyer, but the cost of forcing the person to pay up more than outweighs the bid. That seems to be an uncommon occurance though.
5: I highly recommend paypal or something if you guys can set it up.
6: we decided this year not to include mail in bids, as they are difficult to reconcile with the internet bids coming constantly. Not that many mail ins came anyway, and then when the bidding closes you have a good idea of what you are dealing with.
7: the charity should send a confirm letter to the stallion owner with the name/phone/address of the winning bid, just to secure everything.
8: confirm letters should go to the winning bidders, because they cannot rely on winning just by looking at the website-it needs to be made "official" and also provide the contact info of stallion owner.

whew-thats it for the moment. Erin, I will circle with you via email-possibly tomorrow, to give you more helpful info. If you have specific questions, feel free to email me. However, I just got this new computer, and upgraded my server tonight, so I might have problems with my email. If I dont respond right away, or if your email is returned, post on this thread and I will contact you.
I will offer whatever help I can give.

GREAT suggestion Fred.

[Fred]

this first year. I heard there were numerous problems with the online bidding for a few of the auctions last year, and I don't think we want to get involved with 4th party, ie ebay.
I agree with Denny that perhaps a small committee should be formed to help simplify things.
I also agree with Spot and PintoFoal about the live foal guarantee. I have participated in stallion service auctions a number of times, as both a stallion owner and a mare owner.
and it is normally a live foal guarantee, under the normal terms/length of that stallion's contract, with no refunds. The bottom line is that we all want the money to go to Baby Aiden. we want everyone to be happy, and we want everybody to get a foal. Since the stallion owner is not getting paid (and we don't want to be) it makes sense, that if for any reason that stallion cannot fulfil his obligation, that another stallion on the list could be substituted.
I have sent Erin the forms used by the CSHA which were modelled on the forms used by the Holsteiner Assoc (both of which I participated in). and all the "legal stuff" is covered pretty carefully.
No one wants to get sued, no one wants an act of generosity and hope to backfire. And we don't want this to get so unwieldy that it becomes unmanageable.
I would be willing to be on the committee.
Again, I keep saying this, but let's keep it as simple as possible. Let's just do it!

note to Rolex being strong and being brave doesn't mean you aren't afraid. Courage and strength are what carries you through the fear. When you wrote that post from the hospital, when you thought you were losing Aiden, I was moved to tears - as I am now just thinking about it.
Love to you and your little baby.

[Erin]

I'm all for keeping it simple! (Although it may be too late for that. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

Obviously the "legalese" of the auction should be spelled out in detail and should be well-publicized. Stegall, maybe you can offer advice on that. I'll email you. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It seems like the easiest thing is just for bids to be submitted via email. I'll just set up a special email address for bids to be sent to.

Do we want to allow people to have a first, second, and third choice, as someone mentioned? I wouldn't mind doing that, but it would require a LOT more organization. (i.e. I wouldn't just have to track the highest bid for each stallion.)

DMK, oh ye of the organized mind and Excel know-how /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (at least, I think it's you)... would there be a way to put this information into a spreadsheet or something?

Also, I wouldn't mind listing on the website (when it's up) who the leading bidder is for each stallion. I could just update the site each night and include any changes. Would anyone object to that? Does anyone know how that would work if we were to allow someone to have first, second, and third choices?? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

I want to make sure all of you stallion owners are happy with the way this will be run... once we have all these details sorted out, the "committee" can stop bothering you all and move ahead with getting this ball rolling. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Robby Johnson]

to the breeding contract, but would it give more latitude if the breeding could be transferred?

For example, I win the breeding to my stallion of choice. But after three tries, my mare isn't in foal.

But my friend Sally agrees to compensate baby Aiden with *another* matching contribution to ALF in his fund, to breed her Fertile Myrtle mare.

That is one safeguard to address the LFG.

Another would be to disclaim that a remedy for the guarantee would be to extend the breeding for 2 seasons - with mare owners paying collection/shipping/lab each time. Beyond the 2 seasons, the contract would be null.

It is a risk mare owners should be prepared to take, on the front end. With that in mind, I think within the scope of this auction, mare owners must be expected to provide preliminary veterinary conclusions that the mare is, in fact, capable of being bred.

Robby

You may be only one person in the world, but you may also be the world to one person.

[milynda milam]

Well, this is what happens when I don't get on the BB for a while! Thank you Sonesta and Spot for letting me know about it.

The Red Fox Farm boys are in, too. In fact, we'll donate breedings to our two latest World Show winners--APHA World Champion Jumper Hot Brew and our new homozygous stallion RFF Blackjack, Top Ten Junior Working Hunter.

I meant to post a brag on these two guys and never did, so will now with some pics from World--and some observations on ex-racehorses.

It will be fun to think about this later in the year, realizing as we fill semen orders on these breedings that the breedings are directly helping one specific child. Definitely a warm fuzzy.

Milynda Milam
Red Fox Farm
Home of the Custom Color Sporthorses
http://www.redfoxfarm.com

[Nikita]

Wow! The incredible offering of stallions is enough to drive a poor mare owner bonkers! I think I need to buy more mares (any lawyers around that can handle the divorce?) /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I've just spent a couple of hours checking out all the 'boys' and my mind is swimming.

Erin, just another thought for handling the auction. Is there anyway of opening up a temporary forum here at COTH to keep track of the winning bids? Have a separate 'topic' for each stallion with the current winning bidder on each. With your new toys the forum can be read-only so only you can post the updates and the order can be frozen. A link from the website with the stallion info to the current high bidders list is all that would be needed.

Also, from the replies I take it that not too many are interested in an ad in the COTH for the auction. So count me in for doing some distribution of flyers once this is finalized. Between hubby and myself, we're at about 280 barns on a weekly basis and they vary from top show barns to breeding farms to backyard breeders and feed stores, etc. We cover a large chunk of Southern Ontario. I'll also do a mailing to tack/feed stores that are out of our area.

[Portia]

I can't tell you anything about the technical organizing part -- as DMK can tell you, she had to walk me through downloading AIM /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif - but I can take a look at whatever from a legal perspective.

On the contracts, it seems to me the best way to make it easier for the very generous stallion owner, is to advise the bidders that they need to review the stallion contract for each stallion they are interested in bidding on, and those terms will be binding -- except no refunds on donated fees because once those are given to Aiden's ALF fund, they're gone to that good cause permanently. We will need to reference the stallion owner contact info and website for those that have them to get copies of the contracts, and/or we can get copies of each of the standard contract for each stallion and provide them to whoever asks.

We could also remind the mare owners that if they don't get something of value for their money (i.e., a live foal) they may be able to deduct the full amount paid as a straight donation to ALF. A tax accountant or lawyer, or someone who deals more with non-profits, will know the rules on deductibility a lot better than I do, but I could check around.

"Offense MEANT!" Armand Leone, Jr. to David O'Connor and Linda Allen, Sept. 25, 2002

[Kinsella]

OK, in reading the latest pages, it seems to me that if the bids are coming via email and do not (obviously!) have a check attached, there should be no need for 2nd or 3rd choices as suggested. If a mare owner makes a bid of $XXXX for A Fine Romance and sees that the bidding has gone over what they can spend, they can then bid $XXXX on Loyal Pal and so on... Since the check isn't written until the auction is over, I think it would be easier on Erin (and the committee) to not have to deal with 2nd & 3rd choices.

Oh and I would suggest that all bid emails be titled with the particular stallion's name for ease of sorting all of them!!

Just my .02 worth! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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I want to look at the horizon and not see a building standing tall...

[Erin]

Well, they won't see the actual amount of the bid, but they will see whether or not they are the current high bidder.

But you're right... that makes sense. If I've already bid my limit for Loyal Pal and I can see I'm not the leading bidder, well then, I'll just go and bid on someone else.

Whew... good. I have NO IDEA how I'd manage 1st/2nd/3rd choices. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Nikita, I could do it all on a forum... hmm. Maybe that would be easier. Gawd, our bandwidth will go through the roof. /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[PaulaM]

And I can tell you all that Mirrabook is awesome to deal with when it comes to Stallion Service Auctions!!! In 2001, they stood Tigger's Dad (Oberon)and let me say, they went above and beyond the call of duty in even helping me. Shipments were always on time and paperwork received in plenty of time as well.

I wish I was going to breed my mare again, I know who I would pick. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Whistlejacket]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Erin:

If you've been following the threads on Off Course, you know about this already... but a BBer named RolexH has a baby boy with a very serious liver disease, and he needs a transplant. A fund has been set up in his name, and I've been collecting donations from COTHers for it... so far, we have over $2,500. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Fred has also donated a breeding to A Fine Romance to be offered through a silent auction, with the winning bid being paid to the American Liver Foundation (through which Aiden's fund is set up).

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Erin - Quick question.

Do the donations that are being raised go to research in liver disease, go to help defray the cost of Baby Aiden's medical expenses, or to something else?

Obviously all of these are very worthy causes. After reading through the various related threads, however, I wasn't sure exactly which of these good causes the donations are supporting.

Thanks!

[Fairview Horse Center]

OK, how about something like this...

State that the COTH/Liver Foundation/Baby Aiden have no affiliation with any Stallion Owner, but are simply acting as a "connecting service". That all bidders need to contact stallion owner and agree to the terms of that Stallion's contract except that all breedings attained thru this auction are for "Return Service only" and that the mare owner will have the choice to accept an Alternative Stallion if the stallion that they win the bid on becomes unable to fufill his contract for some reason, but NO REFUNDS will be given.

I personally will agreee to whatever anyone else decides about the on-line/silent/yahoo bid whatever.

Darlyn
http://www.fairviewhorsecenter.com

Are We Having Fun Yet?

[DMK]

Yup, I do believe we can put all this in excel (especially if we don't have that 2nd/3rd choice option, just a new choice). As it happens, I think I can also work it out so the chart easily identifies whoever is the top bidder at any given moment.

I'll start collecting some required data definitions (stallion/stallion owner/bidder) from the past posts and e-mail a list to you for your thoughts.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)

[Fairview Horse Center]

And, sorry to burst your WHEW! Erin /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif, but the last minute bidding can get intense, and many people may not be able to keep bidding until the last second of whatever time you guys decide. They may wish to have a reserve bid on a 2nd stallion (3rd, ?) in case they lose their 1st choice.

ie. Maybe I would be willing to bid $1000. for Thunderpaws, but if he goes over, I would still like to win a breeding. I am unfortunately called away for the last few hours, and can't check online. Now, I don't like Twinkletoes as much, but would be willing to go to $600. for him.

Darlyn
http://www.fairviewhorsecenter.com

Are We Having Fun Yet?

[Freehold]

Well, I've donated for similar stuff before, so I have a couple of ideas. I set it up so that once the charity received the money paid for the breeding they would give the winner a certificate stating that they won the breeding. The mare owner was then responsible to forward the certificate to the stallion owner (me in this case) by a set date to claim the breeding. Then the stallion owner would procees as they would in any other breeding situation and send the contract etc to the mare owner. The contract was the same as any of my regular breedings. The one time the winner never actually contacted me (although she did pay), which left me free of the contract (due to the set contact date). The second time (current actually - a fund for my farrier's widow and family - long story) I was contacted by both winners, who have signed contracts for 2003.
As for posting bids, I agree with posting the top bidder. Also, the stallions that are not yet bid on should be marked as such so that they might attract more bidders. If someone with only one mare happens to be top bidder on two stallions maybe they could have the option to refuse one, at which ponit the second highest bidder would get that fee. As for if the stallion dies or becomes unfit for breeding, that's a tough one. Perhaps if a breeding is not won it could be left available to fill such a need (hopefully it won't be an issue).
The information page on each stallion should have a link to the breeding contract. That way before bidding the mare owner can read all the fine print without having to contact the stallion owner directly (a lot less mail for the stallion owners to reply to as well). Add in contact info - both email and phone for each stallion owner so the mare owners can ask any questions ahead of time.
That's all I can think of right now. Oh, Erin, should I send you the details on the boys now, or are you going to send out a batch email when you are ready for the info? I've not sent it yet as I don't want to add to the chaos /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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[Portia]

Whistlejacket, the donations are to pay for Baby Aiden's medication needs and future lifetime care expenses after the transplant. Much of it is covered by insurance, but when you're talking about expensive anti-rejection drugs, even the deductibles and co-pay can be steep out of pocket expenses. The ALF recommended to the Hawk family that they try to raise $250,000 for those expenses. As I understand it, the ALF has a mechanism to set up a discreet fund, so that there is no doubt that it is a legitimate charitable donation but the money still gets to the particular individual. You donate to the American Liver Foundation, designating the Aiden Hawk Fund as the recipient, and all of the money goes into that fund to be used for his medical care expenses. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

"Offense MEANT!" Armand Leone, Jr. to David O'Connor and Linda Allen, Sept. 25, 2002

[Erin]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Whistlejacket:

Erin - Quick question.

Do the donations that are being raised go to research in liver disease, go to help defray the cost of Baby Aiden's medical expenses, or to something else?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry, I didn't explain that very well in the first post. The donations are for Aiden's expenses.

The American Liver Foundation set up his fund (as I assume they do for many of these patients), so that's why the donations from COTHers were all made out to the ALF. They're just earmarked for Aiden.

Aiden's family does have very good insurance, but the ALF has suggested they raise $250,000 for Aiden's lifetime care. So that's what we're chipping in for. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Because the ALF "hosts" the fund, contributions are tax-deductible. And it also assures you I'm not running off to Tahiti with the donations, because the checks aren't made out to me. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BTW, I can't recall if I posted it on this thread or not, but the donations from COTH posters (which I just mailed to the ALF this week) came to over $2800. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif And imagine what it will be after the auction!

I am going to start working through all this stuff this weekend, and hopefully will come up with some text/disclaimers/etc. that I'll let everyone review. Collectively I'm sure we can make sure all the bases are covered.

I'm hoping if we make it obvious that this is a CHARITY function run by volunteers (who may or may not know what we're doing), we'll avoid getting into too much trouble. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Erin]

Oh, Freehold, you can go ahead and send me your info. I'm already flooded... one more won't matter too much! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Seriously folks, let me apologize in advance if I've missed questions on this thread or haven't answered every email. With a full time job and two horses, I don't have a lot of time to focus fully on things over here.

I WILL be spending a good chunk of time getting this organized this weekend, and once I've gotten everything in place, it will be easier for me to handle this information and respond to it more quickly. But for the time being, just bear with me. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And thanks so much to everyone who has chimed in on this thread, not only with donated breedings, but just with thoughts and advice. Since I am rather clueless with regard to breeding stuff, I sincerely appreciate everyone's input! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Nikita]

Any idea how to make sure the bids are legit and not 12 year old kids bidding on a fantasy? Is there going to be a registration process similar to what you have to do with a real auction.. you know where you have to go and give ID and a credit card? We all like to think that people wouldn't mess with a charity auction, but they will. I'd hate to think that someone gave up bidding because a fake bid made them think the price went too high.

Also, PayPal was mentioned as an option. For anyone in Canada (or elsewhere out of the US) when you register with PayPal they take the information and then send you a code on your next credit card statement. You then go back to the site and enter in the code before you can use their services. Depending on the timing of when you register vs when you sign up with PayPal, this can be up to a month before you get your code. Not good for someone that comes in in the last week or two. Just a potential problem if PayPal is used and someone plans to bid in the last few weeks without preregistering with PayPal.

Last but not least... does anybody have any idea how much online Auction Software runs? There are quite a few sites that will host auctions, handle registration and process all monies. If it's not too expensive, this may be the way to go since all the software is in place

[HFSH]

Well, if anyone wants to see the terms of a soon-to-be stallion service auction, Midwest Breeders Group's SSA terms can be seen here:
http://www.breedersgroup.com/terms.html

That might give you some ideas for terms for this auction.

Home of the RPSI & AWR approved stallion, Remarkable. Homozygous for BLACK!
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[Kinsella]

Oh Fairveiw, don't bust Erin's WHEW!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

If a person is willing to bid $XXXX on stallion A, but only $XXX on stallion B in the event they don't get A, they can go ahead and place both bids, and if they win both, defer the one they don't want to the 2nd in line... Would that work better?

Hey Milynda - I was hoping for Spotlight!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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[This message was edited by Kinsella on Oct. 25, 2002 at 01:48 PM.]

[Sublime]

Maybe someone could make a website listing all the stallions w/ Photos and information? We can put the link in the ad in the Chronicle of the Horse?

Ok who's technically inclined??

~*~Sublime~*~

"One good thing about music: when it hits you, you feel no pain."-Bob Marley

[Erin]

OK, I am copying Tawna's list and adding to it:

1. A Fine Romance - Fred
2. Nevada - Fairview Horse Center
3. Art Deco, Hall of Fame, State of the Art, Spectrum- Pinto foal
4. Remarkable - HFSH
5. Sato - Spot
6. Prince Quick - Luckyduck
7. Brigade CF - Ghazzu
8. Tramino and Gelan - Mirrabook
9. Rowfantina's Little Percy - Erika-(Name?)
10. Branco - Allyn M
11. Caruso - Carol Lawrence of Willowlake Farm
12. Maxamillion - Tawna24 (Me:)
13. (Buyers choice) - Norsire
14. F.E. Copper Top, El Ghazi Legacy - Freehold
15. Fyre One - Sonesta
16. Rendement - Celtic Witch
17. Winston - Rusti
18. Galatois - Premiere
19. Loyal Pal - Denny
20. Happy Hour - Equine Connection
21. Guaranteed Gold - Ggold
22. Morgengold II - Aurum
23. Navarone - Majestic Gaits
24. Palladio - crestline
25. Cabalito - Whitehedge Farm
26. Boleem, Argosy and King's Camelot - sid
27. Brierwood - The Horseman
28. Apollon - Pintofoal & Gwen
29. Kreshendo and Meistersinger - suzette
30. Hot Brew and RFF Blackjack - milynda
31. Zach's Account - Suwanee Farms
32. Goldmaker and Jondalar - Kinsella
33. *Lasrachai - Maureen

I think that brings us to 40? I've gone through my Yahoo BB email account and I think I've added all of the people who emailed me offering donations rather than posting it on the BB... but I'll do a more thorough digging through my mailbox this weekend and make sure I haven't missed anyone. (If you emailed me and aren't on the list, let me know.)

This weekend, I'm going to try to sort out most of the details of how this will work, and then bring them back to you guys for "final approval." I'll also try to find solutions to some of the issues you guys have mentioned.

I think we'll just stick with email bids -- DMK has volunteered to track the bids through an Excel spreadsheet, so that should work well. There will be a little more manual work involved, but I don't think it will be too bad.

I'll also get to work on compiling all of the stallion info and setting up a basic website... most likely I'll just put it on my own personal server for the time being. I'll let you guys take a look at it, and let some of the more design-oriented people come up with some cool graphics for it /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif and then we'll move it to wherever it will be hosted.

For the stallion owners who haven't yet emailed me with their horses' info... hold off on that for a bit. I might just set up an online form that you guys can fill in. It'll make sure we have consistent info on each stallion, across the board. But if you do have pictures you want to have used, do go ahead and email those to me. Otherwise I'll just pluck one off your website. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Again, THANKS for the suggestions and help everyone has offered, and please have a little patience with me as I try to get everything organized and reply to everyone's emails. (If I haven't emailed you back, I'm not ignoring you, really! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

Hopefully I'll have a lot of stuff to show you guys on Monday. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BTW, little Aiden is on his way to the hospital in Atlanta, as he's gotten sick again. /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif An update has been posted on Off Course.

THANKS AGAIN GUYS! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[This message was edited by Erin on Oct. 26, 2002 at 01:13 AM.]

[This message was edited by Erin on Oct. 26, 2002 at 12:58 PM.]

[Erin]

Oh, one other thing... I think I'm going to purchase a separate domain name to use for this. (The pages won't necessarily be hosted with the domain, but it will at least give us a nifty URL we can pass around where people can find info. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )

Would anyone be interested in "donating" the cost? I think it's about $35 for a year. I'll set it up and everything, but just wondered if someone wanted to do the actual purchasing. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

If you're dying to take part in the auction but don't have a stallion or a mare, here's your chance to make a "donation!" /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Email me if you're interested and I'll walk you through it.

[Erin]

Wow, that was fast... already got a volunteer to donate the domain. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Thanks!

More info to come... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[kt-rose]

I would pick up the cost of the ad in the Chronicle if that is still something you think would be useful. I have a graphic artist I could have put something together -- maybe using that adorable picture of Aiden on a horse posted elsewhere. You can email me privately Erin if you would like.

Kate

[Erin]

I knew I would forget someone! Goldmaker and Jondalar are duly added to the list for a total of 42. (Sorry Kinsella!)

kt-rose, I know there were at least a couple of people interested in chipping in for an ad. (Although Robby's COTH article will also help promote the auction.) Maybe start a new topic and see how much interest there is? I think I will have to pass the organization of that along to someone else, as I seem to be getting in awfully deep here. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

If you haven't seen it yet, I posted a topic about how stallion owners can send me their info through an online form. Click here for details. (http://chronicleforums.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=6656094911&f=3206053911&m=9886072251)

[Erin]

One more addition... *Lasrachai, a Connemara. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sprite from the BB forwarded info about the auction to a Connemara list. In the interest of diversity, I'm sure we can squeeze in one more! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Fred]

that's all I have to say about the matter!
kt rose thank you for your generosity!
let's keep those positive thoughts and prayers going for Aiden.

[kt-rose]

I will be happy to take on making arrangements for the ad -- will just need who to talk to about the info and dates so I can talk to the advertising department at CTOH and get a page for an appropriate issue. Was thinging of using that adorable shot of Aiden on the horse and perhaps getting some promo shots of a few of the stallions -- I will post a separate thread asking for photos -- I do have someone to desing the ad for us so it gets as much attention as possible.

Kate

[DMK]

kt - as soon as I have all the stallion info nicely sorted and organized, I can forward it to you.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)

[kt-rose]

so i can reserve a page in the right issue?

Kate

[Tannenwald Trakehner]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spot:

Tannenwald Trakehner - what about your adorable little colored pony - is he doing stud duty yet or is he still too young?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Geez, guys, I am embarrassed. /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif I didn't realize I had been summoned until someone else pointed out this post.

Payday Poker has his first foal coming next year. Certainly he would be happy to help the cause, but I can't guarantee availability by shipped semen yet for next year. He is standing in Michigan. Now, can someone give me the nutshell version of what I need to do for him to be in roster? I am afraid I haven't kept up with this thread because I just haven't had the time to plunk down and read all of the messages in it--definitely a hot topic.

And I guess I have to revamp his website at least by February when the list closes?

Tannenwald Trakehner (http://www.atrakehner.com), Breeders & Friends of the Trakehner horse:
American Trakehners - European Engineering, Made in America!

[Tackpud]

I don't have a stallion to add but would be willing to supply a mare for someone who wants a baby but doesn't have a mare. I have 2 TB mares who are breeding sound but not useful in my program at this time. I am willing to work out details in using one or both as an AI receiver mare or whatever is needed. Contact me by e-mail if interested in getting more info on the mares.

[DMK]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kt-rose:
so i can reserve a page in the right issue?

Kate
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good question...

Erin - do you have a deadline for completing the stallion form?

I think I can have all the info consolidated within 24 hours of the deadline (or more likely less time than that).

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)

[Erin]

Hrm. I'll go to work on getting the info from the remaining owners this week. Maybe by Friday we can hope to have the basic information? I should at least be able to get everyone to fill out the form by then, although I may not have time to get it up on the website by then.

DMK, do you want me to forward the form emails to you as they come in?

Tannenwald, here's the basics of the auction... you get to set whatever caveats you like. I'm basically telling the bidders that everything is up to the stallion owner, and there will be differences in policy across the list.

It'll be a silent auction, with the bids being submitted to me by email. All the info will be online, including a page on each stallion with a photo and other pertinent info, so you don't need to have a website, necessarily. Bids will open Dec. 6... the closing date is TBD.

I'm pretty much encouraging anyone who's interested to participate... the auction will be advertised in COTH, and I'm going to recruit the BB at large to promote it in their own circles as well, so I'm hoping we'll reach a diverse group of people.

The details are still being sorted out as to exactly how everything will work, but if you're interested, go ahead and send me your info (see this topic (http://chronicleforums.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=6656094911&f=3206053911&m=9886072251) for a link to an online form for that purpose) and I'll add you to the list of stallions. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I started a couple of new topics with info on the basic website I set up and some of the details still to be decided.

Oh, and I don't know if she has posted here, but we have one other addition... Darkhorses' Czulu.

I don't even want to know how many stallions that brings us up to now. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Spot]

that should bring us up to 44 stallions!
Not *bad* - but wouldnt 50 or 75 be a neat number?!
(just kidding Erin ... wanted to see if you would faint or anything at those numbers!) /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

"Spot"

[DARKHORSE]

Sorry I am so late responding...nobody emailed me /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif and I have not been on the BB much lately.
I will of course participate. It is very inspiring to see what is being done for baby Aiden and his family. I will be honored to participate. I will donate a breeding to my young stallion prospect Czulu, have sent the info to Erin already. I am in the same situation as one of the other stallion owners with a young stallion, I don't know if anybody will be interested in him, but he is available. Here is a picture of him at Del Mar, CA for the IHF West Coast Regional where he was 2 y/o Colt/Gelding Champion. He is currently leading Zone 8 in HB points and I think that will hold. He is lightly started u/s, has been free jumped and shows excellent form. I have more pics I can post if there is interest.

Camille Greer
Darkhorse Farm

[Spot]

Lovely stallion! What a nice addition to the auction!

I, for one, would really like to see more pictures of him if possible

"Spot"

[Ninja]

WOW! I haven't been on here in a few months and obviously I have missed a lot. What a wonderful cause and I hope this silent auction goes a long way to help baby Aiden.

I have no doubt that it will and I will most certainly help get the word out. How generous of all the stallion owners!

Now the important stuff.....who to bid on! I always thought Fred would be a good choice for my mare. Always loved Art Deco .....eenee meenee miney moe....

I am sure I'm not the only one wishing I had a few more mares to breed!

[DARKHORSE]

Thanks Spot, for the nice comments about my young boy Czulu.
Here are some more pics.
This was taken at The Oaks in mid June where he was BYH

[DARKHORSE]

this was taken just a week or so ago

[DARKHORSE]

same thing Czulu in pasture but this is his BIG Warmblood trot.. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Applesauce]

*drooooool*

Thinking of taking up Tackpud on her offer for one of her mares.....hmmmmmmmmm

"Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice. Pull down your pants and slide on the ice." quote from the tv series M*A*S*H

[Nauticle]

who are donating stallions, time, ads, work and emotion to this special family and cause. It makes me feel hope and that is a good feeling. I am not in the posistion to buy a breeding, but I would like to help..what can I do? This is a wonderful thing and not just for baby Aiden, but for all of us who can come together and work for a common cause. I am getting drippy here, sorry.. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Spot]

I like him even MORE in these pictures! What a stunning mover - you'll have some real fun with him in the future, I am sure!

Nautical - TONS you can do! I know that kt-rose would appreciate any donations to the full page ads she is planning on running in COTH issues, plus, once the flyer is ready to go, you can print off some copies and distribute them to local stables and tack shops in your area. Any place where you feel someone with a mare might be interested in bidding on these stallions.

"Spot"

[Fred]

for your generous donations. It is the best possible of causes I think.
Nautical, as Spot said, you can defiinitly help! contact KTRose, or if you can't help that way, help us publicize the auction other ways. We can donate all the services in the world, but it won' t help a bit if we don't get bids on them. Do you belong to another BB where you could post the info?
Flyers in your tack/feed store would help too.
thank you!

[Erin]

Just don't promote the auction quite YET... I need to finish the website first. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

But when we're ready to go, we'll make sure to let everyone on the BB know, and give you the go-ahead to let everyone YOU know know! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Portia]

I posted this on the thread that xctrygirl started, but will repeat it here to make sure it doesn't get lost. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Mary Shirley, owner of Rocky Mountain Warmbloods near San Diego, has very generously offered to donate a breeding to her Rhineland-Pfalz-Saar approved jumper stallion, Fast MM (Sandro/Jasper). /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif This is the stallion that Mary herself, an amateur, showed in the GPs, including at Spruce Meadows.

Here's his webpage:

Fast MM (http://www.rockymountainwarmblood.com/fastmm.html)

THANK YOU MARY! (The REAL Portia's first hu-mom)

[meghan1963]

Hi Erin,
i filled out the online form this morning to donate a breeding to the Holsteiner stallion Fleming. He was GP dressage stallion at Iron Spring Farm
I haven't seen him on your list.

thanks,
Meghan

[Erin]

Hi Meghan!

I have all the forms going to a separate email account, which I usually only check from home... (I'm at work now) but I just took a quick peek and it does look like I have Fleming. I'll update the list when I'm home later on this evening. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thanks!

[Bethe Mounce]

I sure would like to help out with this auction, alas, I don't stand a stallion, but I have a beautiful black rolled leather dressage bridle that I would be willing to donate as an auction item. I realize that this may not be appropriate, but just thought I would ask and see what you all think.

[Portia]

Bethe, the bridle sounds beautiful. Go to Off Course to the thread Xctrygirl started on Silent Auction of Items for Baby Aiden (or something like that). She's gathering non-stallion things over there, I think. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Thanks!

[Erin]

Bethe, see this thread on Off Course. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The OTHER auction for Aiden! (http://chronicleforums.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=6656094911&f=5566064631&m=3116077451)

[Hexel]

I hope you received the info I mailed on Harvest Moon Tb. stallion by Absolut' . I must have had my head in the sand and missed the request for stallion donations. Harv to is young and we are working on proving him ,he has a few nice babies on the ground and is IHF nominated.

[Erin]

Updated list...

1. A Fine Romance - Fred
2. Nevada - Fairview Horse Center
3. Art Deco, Hall of Fame, State of the Art, Spectrum- Pinto foal
4. Remarkable - HFSH
5. Sato - Spot
6. Prince Quick - Luckyduck
7. Brigade CF - Ghazzu
8. Tramino and Gelan - Mirrabook
9. Rowfantina's Little Percy - Erika-(Name?)
10. Branco - Allyn M
11. Caruso - Carol Lawrence of Willowlake Farm
12. Maxamillion - Tawna24 (Me:)
13. (Buyers choice) - Norsire
14. F.E. Copper Top, El Ghazi Legacy - Freehold
15. Fyre One - Sonesta
16. Rendement - Celtic Witch
17. Winston - Rusti
18. Galatois - Premiere
19. Loyal Pal - Denny
20. Happy Hour - Equine Connection
21. Guaranteed Gold - Ggold
22. Morgengold II - Aurum
23. Navarone - Majestic Gaits
24. Palladio - crestline
25. Cabalito - Whitehedge Farm
26. Boleem, Argosy and King's Camelot - sid
27. Brierwood - The Horseman
28. Apollon - Pintofoal & Gwen
29. Kreshendo and Meistersinger - suzette
30. Hot Brew and RFF Blackjack - milynda
31. Zach's Account - Suwanee Farms
32. Goldmaker and Jondalar - Kinsella
33. *Lasrachai - Maureen
34. Czulu - Darkhorses
35. Epic Leap - Cedarbrook Farm
36. Tricon - Footfall Farm
37. Fleming - Iron Spring Farm
38. Wynslew - North Wales LLC
39. Comedian - Fabrizius Farm
40. L.A. Baltic Sundance - Halifax Farm
41. Harvest Moon - Woodland Farm
42. Test Pilot - Kim and Marty Morani
43. Digamist, Quarry, and Clash By Night - Xanthus Farm
44. Private Dream - Noble Star Ranch
45. Cheryl Semotok's Appaloosa stallion ???
46. Fast MM - Rocky Mountain Warmbloods
47. Granulit - Yancey Farms
48. Rodioso - Sporthorse South

That brings us to 60. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Plus we have Vanna, Lucy, and EM Roma I, our three female participants. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[This message was edited by Erin on Oct. 31, 2002 at 11:28 AM.]

[Nikita]

If you can have the last day for bidding January 16th instead of the 15th, I can be available all day to help out. Let me know.

[Bentley]

Personal problem - don't panic everyone /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

January 15 and 16th I'm going to be on a plane out of the snow and back into the lovely Australian summer.

Any chance of designating a 'proxy' of some kind for people that might be away on those important days??

Wow, this is absolutely wonderful everyone.

Big pat on the back to you all. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Erin]

Bentley, if you want to have someone bid on your behalf, that's fine with me.

[Erin]

Added Granulit and Rodioso to the list above, which brings us to 60 stallions.

I think we're gonna have to call it quits VERY soon, folks. I will accept stallions whose owners have already been approached, but I REALLY do not want any more! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Spot]

If those people come on board in the next day or so, I will let you know and hopefully we can still put their stallions in, but I faithfully P R O M I S E that I will not ask anyone else to donate one more stallion to this! /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

"Spot"

[monami]

I am waiting on a reply from 1 Stallion owner as well... Hopefully she will reply today. If it is a yes, I think everyone will be pleased .. this one should bring in a lot of $$$ for baby Aiden

"The soul is the same in all living creatures, although the body each is different."
~Hippocrates

[dressager]

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********
We start believin' now that we can be who we are. -Grease

[Erin]

Just please don't send any MORE emails!

If stallion owners who have already been approached decide to participate, we'll fit them in... but really, guys, this thing is HUGE. I don't want it to become a complete organizational nightmare. (I think it's probably already halfway there /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif )

I really appreciate everyone's efforts. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But really, you can stop now! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[kt-rose]

Morning Erin,

I was just writing up the copy for the ad and was wondering if you know that yet so I could include it. If not we will add it later. Now I'll go update the stallion list. We'll probably wait at least a week or ten days to send the ad in as that will make sure we have every stallion listed. Sorry if you have posted the URL and I missed it -- there is so much info on all this -- I don't envy you!!

Kate

[Erin]

Yes, it will be www.auctionforaiden.org (http://www.auctionforaiden.org). /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I don't have anything there yet, but the basics of the site will be hosted at that URL. I'll probably leave the individual stallion listings at my site, just to save COTH bandwidth. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Spot]

Erin - I know that a few of my contacts have come through and listed their stallions and I believe a few others had some that were imminent - where are we now with stallions and numbers?

Thanks!

"Spot"

[RolexH]

Thank you so much. I am crying all over my key board. Thank you.

~~Lisa~~
Save a life, be an organ donor

[Fred]

I think I can speak for all the stallion owners -
we are happy and proud to be able to help in some way.
I wish we could do more.
love to you and Baby Aiden from Gail and A Fine Romance (Fred)