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HeyYouNags
Jan. 2, 2003, 09:40 AM
First, a mini-vent. The new barn is going up where the old barn was. The old barn has been halfway demolished, the nags are packed into the puny, crappy second barn for the time being, and it rained 1.5 inches yesterday, so everything is a disgusting, muddy mess. The beasties are *not* loving me right now.

Next questions for barn experts:
-Did you use a regular electrician to do your wiring, or did you find someone who knew something about horse barns? Did you have to plan it all out for them? And if so, do you have any words of wisdom?

-Same questions on plumbing. Did your plumber understand what you needed? And any words of wisom? The new barn will have a wash stall and hot water, plus 6 stalls and tackroom. How many water pumps will we need? I'm thinking just 1, plus the wash stall fixtures.

-Last question - what flooring do you use on your aisle and wash stall floor? I would looove to get rubber pavers, but they're danged expensive. Considering that I've spent all my money before even getting plumbing and electricity, we may be living with a dirt aisle for a few months.

Thanks for any words of wisdom you can offer!

HeyYouNags
Jan. 2, 2003, 09:40 AM
First, a mini-vent. The new barn is going up where the old barn was. The old barn has been halfway demolished, the nags are packed into the puny, crappy second barn for the time being, and it rained 1.5 inches yesterday, so everything is a disgusting, muddy mess. The beasties are *not* loving me right now.

Next questions for barn experts:
-Did you use a regular electrician to do your wiring, or did you find someone who knew something about horse barns? Did you have to plan it all out for them? And if so, do you have any words of wisdom?

-Same questions on plumbing. Did your plumber understand what you needed? And any words of wisom? The new barn will have a wash stall and hot water, plus 6 stalls and tackroom. How many water pumps will we need? I'm thinking just 1, plus the wash stall fixtures.

-Last question - what flooring do you use on your aisle and wash stall floor? I would looove to get rubber pavers, but they're danged expensive. Considering that I've spent all my money before even getting plumbing and electricity, we may be living with a dirt aisle for a few months.

Thanks for any words of wisdom you can offer!

Wicky
Jan. 2, 2003, 10:03 AM
Haven't built a barn, but I do have a comment. I am in a wonderful barn now, but there is an electrical outlet right in front of the mounting block, and something is plugged into it - it is SO tempting for my horse as I am teaching him to stand there patiently - he just wants to reach out to that dangling electrical wire and take a chomp!

So, make sure that whichever kind of electrician you get, he/she understands that there should be nothing chewable within reach of a horse!

baycollie
Jan. 2, 2003, 10:08 AM
I am not a barn expert but I had an existing pole barn renovated for my horses. My builder and electrician did not know anything about horses so I gave them a plan. I don't know anything about plumbing but I have a few electrical suggestions. Light your aisle from the sides not the middle. My farrier loves me because she can work in the light and not be shaded from the horse. I copied a friend and put the stall lights on a dimmer switch. It is nice not to have to turn on bright lights when doing night check. I made sure to put in lots of plugs for clippers, fans etc. but one mistake I made is that the ones but the stalls were in reach of the horses. If I let them hang their heads in the aisle they can chew the fan cords. I ended up moving those outlets to above the stalls and now everything is fine. Timers on outside lights are also very helpful. Good luck and have fun!

Alagirl
Jan. 2, 2003, 10:14 AM
I think a regular electrician should be able to work a barn - building codes count, regardless.
Make sure to tell him though about the chewing habbits of the equines - run all the wire through conduit!

Water - same here, if the plummer has installed pipes in outside conditions, he should be fine - remember the deal about the frost! Busted pipes are a PITA, same as ripped off wateres and faucets, have plenty of shut-off valves through the intire barn! How many pumps you will need would depend (I would guess) where your water comes from, pressure and such, hash it over, but one ought to be fine - to much water preassure kills your gasgets in your appliences.

Floors....Wash stall would have to have concret, I would think it would be best for the aisle, too, but not as important. You can always upgrate to rubbermats and add more concrete as time goes on.

cbv
Jan. 2, 2003, 10:19 AM
My barn builders were very experienced and they did all the electrical and plumbing...but were not licensed in those professions. Don't know if that would be a permit problem where you are located? Was not an issue for us.

We have a wash stall with hot/cold (hot water heater right on other side of wall in tack room, adjacent to faucets in wash stall, helps to keep faucets flowing in freezing weather). Also the faucets are recessed so not hanging out of wall where horses or leads could get hung up.

We only have one other faucet in barn aisle.

Electrical outlets near cross ties in barn aisle, relatively centrally located, and above each stall (for fans etc). Couple of outlets in tack room as well.

Also had them run an underground water line to farthest pasture, so would not have to run a hose to fill water troughs. I now wish I had done that to all three pastures and had them run electricity as well. Yhen I could have put an outdoor outlet for lights and for tank heaters etc. Would not have added much expense but would have been a big convenience.

cbv
Jan. 2, 2003, 10:25 AM
We also light aisle from sides, as well as into each stall...the aisle lights and stall lights are on different circuits so do not have to turn both on at same time. Outside lights also on separate circuit, as are outlets for fans.

My barn aisles and wash stall are asphalt. Less expensive than concrete. We have been relatively pleased with it. It is rough enough that slipping has not been a problem. I had worried that the heat here in VA might be an issue...that the asphalt might melt...but that has not occurred.

Clive's Mom
Jan. 2, 2003, 10:55 AM
a suggestion about aisle flooring - asphalt! It resists cracking and still has good traction when wet. I can be a pain to keep clean as far as dust settleing in the crevices, but nothing a blower can't handle.

Evalee Hunter
Jan. 2, 2003, 11:08 AM
EVERY electrical thing (outlet, switch) in your barn needs a cover (wet weather location type cover).

EVERY electrical outlet (except the one for the electric fence) needs to be ground fault interrupter type (GFI).

I would try very, very hard to hire an electrician that is/was a farmer (although not necessarily a horse farmer). He will think of nice little touches that you might not remember--the electric outlet by the hayloft door for the hay elevator, for example.

ALL your electrical wiring needs to be inside metal conduit so it cannot be chewed by rats or squirrels (cause of fires) & also so the wiring can't get wet.

www.rougelandfarm.com (http://www.rougelandfarm.com) Home of TB stallion Alae Rouge, sire of our filly Rose, ribbon-winner on the line at Dressage at Devon.

monami
Jan. 2, 2003, 12:18 PM
Ahh... This is an area I have much experience with. My husband and I built our house/barn combo by ourselves and did plenty of research ahead of time. It helped that my husband (an electrical engineer and lighting specialist) works with civil engineers and architects. But we did all the work ourselves.

These are things that we did and love. But first let me preface this by saying when it comes to wiring and plumbing it is MUCH easier to rough in things that you may not want/need now but you want in the future.

Invest in a small water heater for your wash stall. When building this area I would rough-in for radient heaters if you show or need to wash a horse in cooler temps. We used caned fixtures down the center of our aisle. My barn aisle has excellent lighting because of this and it also looks good. We also used canned fixtures in the wash stall (these need to be rated for wet usage). We have ceiling fans in the center of each stall so that is something that needs to wired for. Each stall has a separate light switch for a double spotlight socket which is mounted in the front of the stall. If needed you can put a heat lamp in the spare socket. The switches need to be far enough away from the stall door so that the horses do not play with them.

Make sure you put in as many outlets in as necessary, Only those that come in possible contact w/ water need to be GFI rated (like a receptacle in the wash stall).

Make sure that you put in an outlet and have space for a fly system (one of my favorite items). We built on a slab with textured concrete floors. They are great. No slipping problems here. Stall are matted of course bu aisle is the easiest to clean. For plumbing make sure they use copper pipes and insulate your pipes. One of the nice things we did was when we pipped our automatic wateres we put in a shut-off valve to each one with an access panel in the inside of each stall. So if anything happens to one of the wateres or if I need to clean one I can shut off water to that individual waterer and the rest still work!!

mmaurer
Jan. 2, 2003, 01:55 PM
I would like to say that EVERY outlet should be GFI. Ask the electrian , if the first one from the pannel box is GFI then you can run the rest from it and they will all be GFI as well. Summer condinsation can cause a short clipping,plugging in a vacumn to do a damp horse, well the list goes on and on. (hubby is a journeyman electrian) outlets need to be out of reach of horses, far out of reach. Definately run it in conduit, and moisture proof boxes. Outside lights that come on at dusk and off at dawn..those are SOOO nice at night, and a three way switch at each end of the barn so you don't have to walk the lenght of the barn in the dark because the switch is at the other end.

Leslie Maurer
Jump The Moon Sporthorses
Home of Echo Shea (arab sporthorse) and Outrageous Fortune(overo Pinto RPSI)
http://www.jtmsporthorses.com

Erin
Jan. 2, 2003, 01:56 PM
HYN, there's a book about barn construction written by Nancy Ambrosiano... she's an eventer from NM. I haven't read the book myself, but I've talked to Nancy a couple of times, and she's one smart, thorough cookie.

Laurie@CBF
Jan. 2, 2003, 05:08 PM
There have been lots of good suggestions here. We have a twelve foot concrete aisle with the center eight feet consisting of the rubber mats. It required two concrete pours so the mats could be recessed (so they are flush with the concrete margins) but we love it. It is very easy to clean - and easy on the horses. We used electricians and plumbers that do a lot of horse work - too freaked out about barn fires to cut any corners on that one. Good Luck!

Sparky
Jan. 2, 2003, 05:22 PM
When I went over the wash stall plans with the builder, I insisted on a couple of things that have worked out very well. The wash stall is about two inches below the level of the floor, and slopes back to the drain, so there's no water in the aisle. Also, I put an extra big drain in the back corner--I've seen so many stalls with drains in the center, and sometimes horses spook at that. We also have an infrared heater above the center, and great lighting and the floor is cement with a very rough texture. I have tried several kinds of mats, and nothing works as well as the cement.

Janet
Jan. 2, 2003, 09:58 PM
Erin,

Nancy was actually in Virginia before she moved west- she was the first editor of the CDCTA newsletter- so you and she made sort of mirror image migration.

I second the recommendation for her book.

HeyYouNags
Jan. 3, 2003, 08:59 AM
These have been fantastic suggestions. I'll print the thread out to show to the plumber and electrician.

And thanks also for the book suggestion. I found it on Amazon, and it should be here in about a week.

It's raining again, and the poor nags are having a rotten time. I keep promising them that the new barn will be worth the suffering, but they're not buying it. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

kfildes
Jan. 3, 2003, 09:02 AM
I am LOVING this thread since I, too, am in the middle of a barn building project the same size as HeyYouNags (and we are also dealing with VERY BAD weather conditions and ponies living in nasty conditions while the barn gets built).

I was especially interested in the convrete vs. asphalt discussion for the main aisle (12' wide) as we have been having a terrible time deciding between them. Anyone else have thoughts regarding the two?

I also really like the idea of having the wash stall slightly recessed - which I hadn't ever thought to do (thanks Sparky!!) and the idea of the drain in the BACK of the wash stall .. which I have never seen done.

I purchased an MD Barn in the Raised Center Aisle design, so there is much ventilation in the ceiling ... but I am also interested in the idea of the hanging fans .. maybe along the center aisle since it is so much higher than the stalls themselves. Great way to keep air flow moving in the summer.

So keep those ideas flowing .. I am taking notes!

Sincerely:

Karen A. Fildes
Caer Avallach Farm - Breeders of Quality Hunter Ponies
www.cafarm.com (http://www.cafarm.com)
www.ponyworld.net (http://www.ponyworld.net)

Pat
Jan. 4, 2003, 05:54 PM
Dont have much time, couldn't read the whole thing, forgive me if I repeat anyone...

Wires: run through conduit if possible. Mice love the coating on wires. Otherwise, try wire that's rated to go under ground, we used it to rewire/replace a light under the advice of the home depot guy. He said it is often called "barn wire"

Floors: pavement is great!! doesn't get slippery and seems to hold up well. My barn is only about 15 years old, but very badly maintained (I rent). Floor looks good tho... No poop stains, either.

Water: frost free hydrants where you can, heat tape where you cant. Or route faucets through the wall of a heated room Frozen pipes suck and are expensive. I once worked at a place who built an apartment over the barn. (uh, yah, for me) They failed to heat tape the septic line which froze and overflowed into some pony's stall my first day. I went home the next morning. It was Vermont, and I figured that if they couldn't get that right, I didn't need to work for stupid people.

Outlets: Wet location boxes/covers for all, and put in twice as many as you think you need. GFI outlets ANYWHERE in the vacinity of water. Seriously, you never know. Also, one for each stall for fans if practical and if you use them. My boss did this eliminating the need for dangerous extention cords. You can also get these cool light switch covers that are water tight. They go right over the normal indoor kind and have big red switches that are easy to flick, even with fat gloves on.

And this may seem to be a no-brainer, but make sure the circuit panel is properly labled before the guy leaves. The barn I rent is a minor disaster, but it was built right in the first place, except for the circuit box. Had LOTS of fun trying to figure out which switch was which. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif URGH, for sure aleast once we were screwing around with that light we replaced while current was going through it. Very scary.

Pat
Jan. 4, 2003, 05:59 PM
HEY, LAURIE !!!!

Where in Stockton are you? I take care of polo ponies in Stockton. (not Hisham and Barbie but nearby)

divagroom@juno.com

Wasilida
Jan. 4, 2003, 07:51 PM
We are building a barn and just finished doing our aisle in "tumbled" concrete pavers. They are tumbled in a metal drum to make them look old. I like it because there are lots of edges that give the horses traction and they look really great. We used a pattern with both 6x6" and 6x9" blocks. Its more expensive than concrete but much less than rubber pavers.

Awkremmit!
Jan. 4, 2003, 07:54 PM
Electrician-we used a contractor type to install the 'box' - we ran everything else ourselves.

Just a suggestion - if you can, it is really worth your while to put drains in at the base of your foundation. - we layed in pipe with holes, in a bed of gravel stone at the base of the foundation. Water coming off the roof or from where ever, drains in it and we never (touch wood) have a problem with water/damp in the stalls.

kfildes
Jan. 5, 2003, 06:07 AM
Wasilida

That tumbled concrete sounds really interesting .. I've never seen it though. Do you have any photos of what it looks like that you could share?

Thanks!

Sincerely:

Karen A. Fildes
Caer Avallach Farm - Breeders of Quality Hunter & Sport Ponies
www.cafarm.com (http://www.cafarm.com)
www.ponyworld.net (http://www.ponyworld.net)

jodyjumper
Jan. 5, 2003, 01:41 PM
I agree with everyone that said make sure the electrical stuff is in conduit and about 2 feet farther away than you think you horse can reach!
My hubby also hooked the barn radio to the lights (the radio can be turned off if I want) so I almost never go away and leave the lights on, since I can hear the radio. He also put a signal light on the loft switch, so I can tell if I have those lights on, without hiking up the steps.
We had a dirt aisle way for years, what a mess, the dogs would drag dirt into the house on their paws, even when it was dry. On a limited budget, we excavated the aisleway (12x36) down about a 6", put down a plastic sheet for a moisture barrier, then sand. We leveled the sand and put in cement pavers, I think they are 8" by 16". They used to be 3 for $1, but now they are 2 for $1, at least in my area. We did that about 15 years ago. We are just now getting some cracks in a few blocks, but they are so easy to replace. We have had to reset only a few, at the ends where they get the weather. They are not very slippery with wet or shod feet. A lot of visitors want to know how to duplicate the floor.

Kafue
Jan. 5, 2003, 03:54 PM
Take advice from someone in the building industry. Save money everywhere else if you want but get a licensed electrician. There is too much at risk with that type of building to chance wires shorting out and sparking.

race_run_jump
Jan. 12, 2003, 10:05 PM
A quick second to the fly system - LOVE mine!! Also like the idea of a recessed wash stall - my stalls are about 5 inches lower than the aisle to keep bedding in - nevet thought of that for the wash stall - great idea! I have ceiling fans in each stall and frankly think that they are not worth the expense and hassle of keeping them clean - I still put up fans on the front of each stall in the summer. I now wish I had a nice ridge vent and a huge exhaust fan or a cupola or both..... Next time, right?

Sparky Boy
Jan. 13, 2003, 09:08 AM
How about Aisle lighting? Florescent? Where do you place the lights? How much is enough?

buryinghill1
Jan. 13, 2003, 09:21 AM
sprinklers, if you can afford them, are wonderful to have in barn.
GFCI outlets everywhere, please.
Conduit.
Macadam, not concrete.
Rubber in the wash rack.
Ceramic light fixtures with glass and metal dome covers. Flourescent in grooming areas.
If you have a non-licensed plumber or electrician, please make sure your local code allows for this, and that you have an inspection done afterwards.
If you are on a well, I would ask your plumber about a tank, and how to keep it healthy. In case of an electric outage, you would still have water - at least for a day or so.

HeyYouNags
Jan. 13, 2003, 09:50 AM
Good news at Nagville: The Amish are here! The Amish are here! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Site prep was completed Friday, and Reuben and his sons were putting in posts when I left for work. He says we may at least have a frame with a roof by the end of the week.

I'd like to hear more about what type of light fixtures people are using, too. I like the idea of side-mounted light fixtures to minimize shadows. Ritzy, do you have the ceramic/glass dome/metal housing kind just in the center of stalls, or off-center?

And a mini book review... I got the barn building book mentioned earlier in this thread. It's got some good info in it, but it's short on details about lights and plumbing. It just covers general ideas similar to what posters have already said.

It is a good, thorough book overall, with lots of ideas. However, I think it would be a better resource for people who are early in the barn-planning process. Much of the good stuff in it is barn designs and layouts. It has ideas for setting up small (like 2 acre) farms, where to put paddocks, where to put the barn, etc. The book has ideas suitable for all kinds of climate/terrain across the country, as well. It was about $24 from amazon.

apcohrs
Jan. 13, 2003, 10:21 AM
www.stablewise.com (http://www.stablewise.com) has lots of details about plumbing and wireing, etc.

buryinghill1
Jan. 13, 2003, 10:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HeyYouNags:
Good news at Nagville: The Amish are here! The Amish are here! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif .<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Yeah, vell, by Friday they'll be REALLY ripe and in need of their Saturday night baths! Good thing it's vinter, ja?
Dome Lights on both sides of the aisle. Separate circuits so if you blow a breaker you still have lights. Dome light IN each stall so as to disturb sleep of only one...

kfildes
Jan. 13, 2003, 03:26 PM
I bought all my barn lights from Orion Lighting. They were highly recommended to me by my barn contractor. They have a round "stall light" and then the long flourescent ones that I have for the aisle and the wash stall.

My foundation is finally complete and we are adding the piping for faucets, drains, etc. and getting the backfilling completed this week. The barn is being delivered on Tuesday, the 22nd, so we are finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel!

Thanks for all the wonderful thoughts! I had my concrete in the wash stall recessed and the drain put in the rear (rather than the center) because of the wonderful advice from this thread.

I am still torn about concrete in the aisle vs. asphalt.

Sincerely:

Karen A. Fildes
Caer Avallach Farm - Breeders of Quality Hunter & Sport Ponies
www.cafarm.com (http://www.cafarm.com)
www.ponyworld.net (http://www.ponyworld.net)

LCR
Jan. 13, 2003, 09:03 PM
Have you considered the Nelson heated waterers? I rehabbed an older barn, took everything down to the wood. It was a 12 stall barn, but in the first stall we brought in a small overhead bin, cut a hole in the haymow floor, and this hold 1 1/2 tons of grain. You can then buy in bulk, have it delivered etc. Rodent proof too!

In the stall on the other side, I completely insulated and drywalled this room, mainly for tack. It stays dry in summer and in winter we used one of the infared heaters on low & it keeps water from freezing. We put in four Nelson waterers, set between stalls, so they share. The plumber dug down 6 feet, ran water lines to all of the stalls and to outside hydrants. This comes up in the tack room and can be shut off individually. He also ran electricity outside, six feet under, to Nelson waterers in the paddocks. This is such a time saver and worth more then anything else, especially if you go through a bad winter--then it makes you a believer. We set the waterers in Bell flared sewer tile. They fit right in the top bell and horses are protected from the bottom part.

We used concrete for the aisle, packed limestone with rubber mats for the stalls. Our stalls have no bars or wire, but are open at the top. Horses visit across the wall and they love it. The walls are five & six inch oak boards set in a track and can be completely pulled out if need be. We have had absolutely no problem with this. Each stall has a dutch door and on one side the stalls have 30 foot runouts. If you can put on overhangs, do so, as it keeps your stalls dry.

We placed all of the electricity in conduit and used the florescent lights used in hog confinement buildings. They are very bright, have lexan covers and are reasonabale in price.

One other thing, we used regular shingles on the roof instead of metal. Its looks nice and keeps down on noise. You can see the building on our website. Good luck!

www.shagya-arabian.com (http://www.shagya-arabian.com)

buryinghill1
Jan. 14, 2003, 05:49 AM
Friends of mine gutted their huge old barn. Under all the cement aisle floors they laid tube heating ( http://www.wirsbo.com/main.php?pm=1&mm=1&sm=5&pc=homeowner/ho_mm1sm5.php ). Very expensive, but it is the most comfortable barn to work in - on any winter day. The stalls are asphalt with rubber mats. The heat in the floor (and grooming/washing areas) is fabulous.
Each stall has a bucket, and it's own faucet (good).
Because it's an old barn, you can't get a tractor/spreader in it (bad).

LCR
Jan. 14, 2003, 06:07 AM
The light that we use are the Orion lights. They are the ones that are used in confinement buildings with the Lexan covers. Each stall has its own and they are shadowless. We also used the long ones in our Arena. Have only replaced one tube in 3 years--they are instant on, in any weather, which is nice, plus they are economical because they are a type of florescent, but with white light. Can't say enought good things about this company.

We put hydronic heat in the floor of our clubhouse and then under the wash rack floor which we put an aisle across from the clubhouse in the Arena building. Its great heat, run by a little, electric, copper boiler. Economical too, even though you wouldn't think so! Over the clubhouse is the barn manager's apt. heated with baseboard, hydronic heat. I like this, because there are no fossil fuels used anywhere in the barn or Arena building, so we have less worry about fires etc.

www.shagya-arabian.com (http://www.shagya-arabian.com)

Flash44
Jan. 14, 2003, 06:47 AM
Letting horses visit across the stall dividers is nice, but if you get a couple that don't get a long at feed time, they can really do a number on the divider.

HeyYouNags
Jan. 14, 2003, 08:25 AM
Anyone have contact info. for Orion lights? Those sound interesting.

Underfloor heating is going to be waaay out of my price range. Fortunately, our winters here in MD aren't too severe.

Sparky Boy
Jan. 14, 2003, 08:46 AM
www.equinelighting.com (http://www.equinelighting.com)

LCR
Jan. 14, 2003, 10:53 AM
To Flash -- We have used the stall dividers for 3 years without anything happening except very happy, social horses. Yes, ocasionally you run into an alpha situation, but using common sense, you just move the alpha horse! We designed this, from European barns. We were in a barn with about 20 or so young stallions. Only a couple of the senior stallions had bar dividers, the rest were allowed to visit back and forth and there never were any problems. Because of the increased ventilation all of these barns are wonderful to walk into no matter what month or how closed up they are.

www.shagya-arabian.com (http://www.shagya-arabian.com)

kfildes
Jan. 14, 2003, 02:13 PM
I was just out talking to the guys who are installing the well pump and water lines into my barn, and they offered another really great suggestion. When they installed the water lines, we put water into the tack room (into a water heater so we would have hot/cold water in the wash stall) but also wanted hydrants on either end of the barn just outside the aisle doors. We also want to add hydrants out to the pastures in the spring (as someone mentioned earlier) so we don't need to run hoses everywhere.

Well ... he installed the lines with switches (valves?) to turn off the separate areas of water line. So for example, if the hydrant on one end of the barn breaks, we can shut it down and still have water going to other areas of the barn. So we don't loose the entire water system if anything starts to leak or break. In terms of cost addition it's minimal since it is just a minor addition, but a great way to protect ourselves in the future.

Sincerely:

Karen A. Fildes
Caer Avallach Farm - Breeders of Quality Hunter & Sport Ponies
www.cafarm.com (http://www.cafarm.com)
www.ponyworld.net (http://www.ponyworld.net)

kfildes
Jan. 27, 2003, 04:46 PM
My MD Barn arrived today!!! The crew says it will take 3-4 days to get it all installed. I can't wait. It seems like we have been planning for so long that it's hard to believe we're almost there.

Thanks for all the hlp this post provided!

Sincerely:

Karen A. Fildes
Caer Avallach Farm - Breeders of Quality Hunter & Sport Ponies
www.cafarm.com (http://www.cafarm.com)
www.ponyworld.net (http://www.ponyworld.net)

Sobriska
Jan. 27, 2003, 04:56 PM
Not sure if this is practical in colder climates, but I have the water piped to each stall. There is a big line with a valve and it's own attached large diameter heavy duty hose (about 1' long) That way I don't have to drag a hose around to fill buckets and the large diameter makes for quick filling.

ladybug01
Jan. 27, 2003, 06:00 PM
http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I second putting the electrical into the conduit pipe and using barn wire.(rats like to chew wires) I just watched an electrical line short out in the barn,my horse was in the aisle at the time, throwing his head up because this was going on in front of him.I thought he threw his head up and hit the light bulb, he didn't. The flashing was the wire shorting out, noisy too. Having lights at the side are much safer then in the middle of the aisle. Having fire extinguishers in the barn is another good thing.(there was not one there) http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif luckily I did know where to shut off the power.
It is not my barn, and I have now been there long, and luckily the fire did go out quickly, it was only small. I am still shaking, posting emergency numbers and the address by the phone, even outside the building would help. To use my cell phone I have to stand outside the barn, having an address to look at while your brain goes numb helps. Unfortunatly there was no fire extinguisher there. I am going to carry one in my vehicle from now on. At least I will have one and know where it is. Go over safety procedures with staff and boarders,for fire, electrical panels, water shut off and check first aid kits. If anything someone else will not be in the same situation. http://chronicleforums.com/images/custom_smilies/cry.gif