"DOUBLE JEOPARDY!" - Old Horse Show Trivia [Archive] - Page 5

buryinghill1

Dec. 26, 2001, 08:34 AM

Who rode:
Double Dice
Determinded Dice

And this is VERY hard (seriously):
Who rode Balbuco to his wins in 1972 (Gold Cup and LA Grand Prix)...

one more---

Name 3 horses under 7 years of age who won a Showjumping Grand Prix. And if you can name the EVENTS, Emmet will buy you the cruise of your dreams.
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Kennett Square

Dec. 26, 2001, 08:54 AM

One was Chase The Clouds and the Presidents Cup at WIHS

Halo Effect

Dec. 26, 2001, 09:02 AM

What about who was Calligula and what crazy horse related thing did he do??

buryinghill1

Dec. 26, 2001, 09:43 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Kennett Square:
One was Chase The Clouds and the Presidents Cup at WIHS<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, 1979. Please see Emmet for cruise info.

Any others??

buryinghill2

Dec. 26, 2001, 09:51 AM

Freakie was five when he won the Presidents Cup. I won over $300 in the groom's pool. What a night that was!
Calypso was under 7 when he won his first I think.

Weatherford

Dec. 26, 2001, 10:13 AM

Irish?

I thought he was only 7 at the Olympics.

Ruby G. Weber

Dec. 26, 2001, 10:42 AM

The Dice bros were both ridden by RJ. Double Dice was also ridden by Oswaldo Mendez.

As far as Balbuco goes, I believe he was "in house" in 1972 so that would have made Rodney his rider. Unless you are referring to the Argentinian rider he came from who name is *^%@#...

Another youngster could have been Southside.

What year was the show and Grand Prix in Atlantic City and who won the GP?

Hope you got lots of Bonz for Christmas, Yeller.

buryinghill1

Dec. 26, 2001, 10:52 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Emmet:
The Dice bros were both ridden by RJ. Double Dice was also ridden by Oswaldo Mendez. YES

As far as Balbuco goes, I believe he was "in house" in 1972 so that would have made Rodney his rider. YES

[QUOTE]

Atlantic City! I was there! Big Snow Storm! Got stuck in it and Wendy,Syd,Karen came to rescue...
I will guess 1983 and I'll say Rob Gage (Largo?) won it. What the heck.

buryinghill1

Dec. 26, 2001, 10:56 AM

Calypso 6 (IJD 1979)
Chase The Clouds
Corsair 6 (AHRC 82)
Jet Run 6 (NY 74)
Daydream 6 (Cincin 86)
Irish was 6 too - I forgot to note WHICH GP!

Alex Trebek

Dec. 26, 2001, 11:36 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Emmet:
Unless you are referring to the Argentinian rider he came from who name is *^%@#...

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Juan Reuickihof? (not even close on the spelling).

buryinghill1

Dec. 26, 2001, 11:53 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Alex Trebek:

Juan Reuickihof? (not even close on the spelling).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alex Trebek

Dec. 26, 2001, 11:55 AM

Oops - you're right!

Another one for the hunter folk: name 3 riders that showed Perfect Stranger.

buryinghill1

Dec. 26, 2001, 11:55 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bennet&Bailey:
What about who was Calligula and what crazy horse related thing did he do??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Halo Effect

Dec. 26, 2001, 12:16 PM

HAHA wow some one actually read my quotes!!! LOL

Catherine
~Unapproved Princess Clique~ Proud member of the DUMBELL CLIQUE
The perfect hunt horse should" 'Ave the 'ead of a duchess an the arse of a cook"
Bounce once if you believe in diagonals!
Calligula, a smart man! Appointed his horse as consul!
Look mommy!! He's wearing bellbottoms!!(in reference to a clydesdale)

Halo Effect

Dec. 26, 2001, 12:17 PM

WC yellowdog....... you're smart

Catherine
~Unapproved Princess Clique~ Proud member of the DUMBELL CLIQUE
The perfect hunt horse should" 'Ave the 'ead of a duchess an the arse of a cook"
Bounce once if you believe in diagonals!
Calligula, a smart man! Appointed his horse as consul!
Look mommy!! He's wearing bellbottoms!!(in reference to a clydesdale)

showjump

Dec. 26, 2001, 12:21 PM

Jane Womble... Can't think of the others.

lauriep

Dec. 26, 2001, 05:57 PM

Atlantic City - 1982, GP won by Honest Tom, show managed by D. Jerry. Reason I am so sure?? It was my swan song, and I, too, was in a bad way in that blizzard. Had to drop off a broodmare at Chuck McGinnis' farm in bumf..., PA (?) and then drive home! It was awful!

Laurie

Shorty

Dec. 26, 2001, 05:58 PM

Idle Dice & Sloopy both won Gran Prix before they were seven.
Determined Dice also was Intermediate Jumper Champion at Devon... ridden by Michael Hunter.

Shorty

Dec. 26, 2001, 06:03 PM

FAMOUS NAMES...
Who owned FOXWOOD FARM ?
Who owned FOAL RUN FARM ?
Who Owned NIMROD FARM ?
Who owned HOBBY HORSE FARM ?
Who owned LISETER HALL FARM ?

upperco

Dec. 26, 2001, 07:16 PM

Jane Womble and Katie Monohan when trained by Jimmy Lee-don't know the other one Maybe when John Shafner had him possibly Debbie

upperco

Dec. 26, 2001, 07:20 PM

Foxwood,Francis Rowe,Foal Run Harry Gill,Nimrod,Ronnie Mutch,Hobby horse,The Hunters and Lieseter Hall Mrs. DuPont

upperco

Dec. 26, 2001, 07:26 PM

I just thought it could have been either Buddy Brown or Leslie Burr as I think they also were riding as juniors for Winter Place Farm when Jimmy Lee was training that string

wtywmn4

Dec. 26, 2001, 07:28 PM

Foal Run Farm- Mr & Mrs. Harry Gill
Hobby Horse Farm- Leonard King
Liseter Farm- Mrs. J. Austin Dupont
Nimrod- Ronnie Mutch

Stumped me on Foxwood.....

Ruby G. Weber

Dec. 27, 2001, 08:06 AM

LP is the Victor re: Atlantic City. And yes, that was a famous snow storm. I never thought we'd get home!

Juan Rickerhoff's (sp?) chestnut horse was?

For a extra day on the cruise, who trained him?

Since Shorty brought it up, name three riders who rode for Frances Rowe.

Alex Trebek

Dec. 27, 2001, 08:15 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Emmet:

Juan Rickerhoff's (sp?) chestnut horse was?

For a extra day on the cruise, who trained him?

Since Shorty brought it up, name three riders who rode for Frances Rowe.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Juan rode w/Frances, right? Can't remember the name of the horse.

3 riders: Joe, Conrad....Noel Twyman.

Perfect Stranger riders: Jane Womble, Bradley Caine, and Cindy Perez (w/the Shaffners).

buryinghill1

Dec. 27, 2001, 09:03 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Emmet:
Since Shorty brought it up, name three riders who rode for Frances Rowe.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Conrad
Joe
?

OOPS. Alex answered this. Duh.

showjump

Dec. 27, 2001, 10:04 AM

Don Juan? Francis Rowe trainer

lauriep

Dec. 27, 2001, 10:45 AM

Don Juan. Three of Frances' riders: Joe, Conrad, Joannie Boyce AND, extra credit, her rider AFTER J&C's departure was Joe Quatrocchi.

MOre Foxwood trivia: what chestnut horse was Joannie's usual Foxwood mount?

And Emmet, you may be the only who could answer this, but name the three most senior grooms at Foxwood.

Laurie

showjump

Dec. 27, 2001, 10:51 AM

Broadway Joe

Ruby G. Weber

Dec. 27, 2001, 12:53 PM

Junior's dad whose name I can't remember.
Junior, Charlie Poindexter and later, Turkey aka Edward Twyman.

Yes, the third rider I had in mind was Joan Boyce.

Now back atya...name four grooms who were fixtures at HTS. Emmet excluded from the count.

Extra credit-match them with a horse.

Alex, Bradley!! I was trying to think of her name.

buryinghill2

Dec. 27, 2001, 01:24 PM

Speaking of HTS grooms, I saw Poinsey at Emerson's memorial service. Hadn't seen him in MANY years..

Shorty

Dec. 27, 2001, 03:52 PM

UPPERCO wins the first round with all correct answers for farm owners...

For bonus points answer ALL 3 parts of the following:

WHO was Emmerson Burr's famous brother ?
WHAT was the name of the farm he managed ?
WHAT was the name of the horse which fell with him, effectively ending his riding carreer ?

Shorty

Dec. 27, 2001, 03:57 PM

OUCH ! !
NAME the Horse & show where the riders listed below had the major falls:

JUNIE KULP
CONRAD HOMFELD

Bumpkin

Dec. 27, 2001, 04:04 PM

Raymond Burr

He ran Fairfield since 1945

wtywmn4

Dec. 27, 2001, 04:15 PM

Junie Kulp- Penn. National

Conrad- Hmmm was that at Hampton Classic? guessing sorry....

buryinghill2

Dec. 27, 2001, 05:19 PM

Em's brother Raymond was only at Fairfield for about 5 years. I was at his farm in Ocala a few years before he died, but I don't remember the name of it.
I think Conrad's bad fall was at Tampa.

Bumpkin

Dec. 27, 2001, 05:23 PM

I thought all the questions referred to Em.

Thus I meant Em ran the Fairfield since 1945
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Shorty

Dec. 27, 2001, 06:43 PM

Correct - Em's Brother was Raymond.
What was the name of his farm ?
-- hint it was in Pennsylvania.
What was the name of the horse..

Shorty

Dec. 27, 2001, 06:45 PM

Conrad's fall WAS NOT at Southampton.
Junie Kulp's was at Penn National - what horse ?

wtywmn4

Dec. 27, 2001, 07:31 PM

Sorry Shorty, don't remember the horse. But he was in the jumper's and it was at that far corner, where the ring narrowed, right after the corner. Wasn't it a wall??

How bout Foxwood Farm in Kimberton for Raymond's farm and there, the grey cells are slowing down again.

buryinghill1

Dec. 28, 2001, 05:26 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shorty:
NAME the Horse... had the major falls:
CONRAD HOMFELD<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

RIO?
I can still see GHM and the full cheek snaffle with 2 reins on it.
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buryinghill2

Dec. 28, 2001, 05:40 AM

I thought Conrad's bad fall was at Tampa, and the horse was Abdullah.

buryinghill1

Dec. 28, 2001, 06:00 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Abby: I thought Conrad's bad fall was at Tampa, and the horse was Abdullah.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That was my other choice... Abdullah...

Ruby G. Weber

Dec. 28, 2001, 09:34 AM

The only part of Shorty's ? I knew has already been answered so...guess I don't win a cruise today!

Abby, the Dr. was not one of the grooms I had in mind, although that seemed like an eternity ago. The caretakers I had in my mind preceded Dr. G's tenure. But, as they say, "thanks for the memories." LOL

Hey, what's LaurieP on holiday today?

[This message was edited by Emmet on Dec. 28, 2001 at 12:45 PM.]

lauriep

Dec. 28, 2001, 12:39 PM

I can come up with three: Luke (Ragland), Speedy, David. Jimbo also comes to mind, but was he a "fixture?" Any hints?

And yes, I am most definitely on vacation (til the 2nd!!!), hence my absence from this machine that rules my life!

And you were correct on the Foxwood grooms; wish I had a scanner, as I have a group picture of them from an old PH article on Frances.

Can you name the farm Frances ran prior to Foxwood and for whom?

Laurie

Ruby G. Weber

Dec. 28, 2001, 01:55 PM

You have named some of the fixtures although I would have to add Norman Woffrey to that list. I wish I had a scanner too as I have a great guess the horse, guess the groom photo.

Shorty

Dec. 28, 2001, 02:03 PM

TOOOOOO SLOW..
The OUCH answers are...
Junie Kulp - Pa National - Lillibuck
Conrad - Tampa - Abdullah
Raymond Burr - Kimberton Hills Farm - He was riding Scorpion.
Farm Owner answer - Foxwood Farm - Frances Rowe.

Shorty

Dec. 28, 2001, 02:07 PM

#1 .Many years ago, Joe Green rode a horse called INJUN JOE - Later INJUN JOE was renamed and became what famous USET horse & who rode him ?
#2 . Where did Harry Deleyer purchase his famous SNOWMAN ?

LaurieB

Dec. 28, 2001, 04:24 PM

Didn't Injun Joe become Nautical "The Horse with the Flying Tail"? If so, he was ridden by Hugh Wiley.

And I seem to remember that Harry Deleyer found Snowman at a very unlikely place. Perhaps an auction?

wtywmn4

Dec. 28, 2001, 04:33 PM

Oh, oh......#2 Snowman purchased at the New Holland Sales Auction. Oh lord, now I am rethinking that, LOL. It was an auction, but which one.. ah well.

#1 Injun Joe, gee all I can think of was Gene Estep...????? Was he renamed Shannon Castle?

Slower than molasses, I can see LaurieB already has the right answers....

PaintedWhisper

Dec. 28, 2001, 08:47 PM

Heres one for ya

Name the rider of
ThreePiO

Bonus points to any1 that can name her either her large Pony, Jumper, Eq Horse or her Jr hunter before ThreePiO, or all of them!
That shouldnt be too hard!

*Emily*
*Portrait Painter*
*Whispering Hill*

ferndale

Dec. 29, 2001, 04:14 AM

Threepio - D.D. (Alexander) Matz, I believe.

Ruby G. Weber

Dec. 29, 2001, 07:26 AM

Also Kitty Beveridge-Barker.

And I agree. Injun Joe aka Nautical.

Snowman did come from an auction but I think it was Bunchy's.

Here's one that Shorty must give others time to answer before she does. Who was Hay Hook?

PaintedWhisper

Dec. 29, 2001, 08:18 AM

ThreePiO-Bay Jr hunter, Im not thinking of either of those riders:-) The rider that had him until he died a few years ago.

*Emily*
*Portrait Painter*
*Whispering Hill*

equitationlane

Dec. 29, 2001, 09:18 AM

Sire of Idle Dice

Ruby G. Weber

Dec. 29, 2001, 09:54 AM

for the Yellowdog's cruise into yesteryear. So who was the dam of Idle Dice?

Who was the sire of Tindle? (Alex, don't let me down!)

Shorty

Dec. 29, 2001, 05:17 PM

Snowman came from the New Holland Sale in Pennsylvania ....
Idle Dice's dam was a tiny mare called D K Dor... His sire (Hay Hook) was *Ardan, who won the Arc d Triomph race in France.

lauriep

Dec. 29, 2001, 06:15 PM

Yes, I had forgotten him til you mentioned him.

Frances ran Little Hawk Farm for the Reynolds', the metal/aluminum foil people. The farm was near where Foxwood wound up; in fact, she purchased the land from Mr. Reynolds when she decided to go on her own.

More Frances trivia: Frances had a number of serious illnesses during her life, including cancer, but there was one that struck her just as Joe and Conrad were getting ready to make their break with her. They ended up staying an extra year because of this illness. What was it?

Laurie

lauriep

Dec. 29, 2001, 06:17 PM

More widely known: name three very famous grays that Billy Steinkraus rode to great success during his career.

Laurie

PineTreeFarm

Dec. 29, 2001, 06:33 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by lauriep:
More widely known: name three very famous grays that Billy Steinkraus rode to great success during his career.

Laurie<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ksar D'Esprit
Bold MInstrel
Riviera Wonder ?? (not sure on this one)

buryinghill1

Dec. 30, 2001, 11:15 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Emmet: for the Yellowdog's cruise into yesteryear. So who was the dam of Idle Dice?
Who was the sire of Tindle? (Alex, don't let me down!)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fabled Monarch sired Tindle. (oh pleeeez let this be right!).
And Emm, I would like a cruise to Lyphard Cay, please.
Happy New Year all you spring chickens!

Ruby G. Weber

Dec. 30, 2001, 12:18 PM

You're tickets will be arriving by Amish buggy.

And I too wish everyone, especially those who play "Double Jeopardy" Happy New Year. May you adhere to at least one of your resolutions!

Kennett Square

Dec. 30, 2001, 01:29 PM

Emmett,

I would like my cruise to be for 21 days to the Amazon. Away from all VHSA associate shows and any point chasing. When can you book that for me?

Shorty

Dec. 30, 2001, 05:34 PM

Note To WYCDog...
Your trip to LYPHARD CAY might be impossible!
The island is not spelled LYPHARD ( which was a pun, referring to the race horse Lyphard - not the island).
Anyway, however it is spelled he a good time !

wtywmn4

Dec. 30, 2001, 06:47 PM

How bout just a plain cruise to any Cay? Where it's warm, and the sun is shining! Oh, and Happy New Year Jeopardites!!

Shorty

Dec. 31, 2001, 01:50 PM

All about D. Jerry Baker...
Who did JERRY work for ? Where ?
Who rode for Jerry ?
Who groomed for Jerry ?
Which Gran Prix Events did he create ?
What Gran prix horses did he train ?

equitationlane

Dec. 31, 2001, 03:41 PM

Worked for Dunraven Farms in Ohio.
Michael Matz rode for him.
First really good Grand Prix horse was a HUGE TB by Bold Ruler..Might Ruler, I think.
I think he started the Cleveland GP, but not sure.

Do I get a curise?
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PaintedWhisper

Dec. 31, 2001, 03:51 PM

NO1 knows the Jr rider Who had ThreePiO until the end of her JR career, showed him alittle bit as an adult and had him until he died a few years ago?! (her last jr year was 1984 i believe)
And no1 can name her Eq Horse, Large Pony, or Jumper?
tsk tsk:-)
Ill give u one more shot!

*Emily*
*Portrait Painter*
*Whispering Hill*

LCasty

Jan. 1, 2002, 04:48 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by schmoe:
is Laura Tidball who won the Maclay on the equitation horse Glen Owen and trained with Tim Kees. The year had to be 1979 or 1980. Could the second one be Eryn Ballard?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
the year was 80 because I was 2nd for the 2nd year in a row at the finals - guess who?

buryinghill2

Jan. 1, 2002, 05:43 AM

Hayley Richards and Steve Heineke were a few other people that rode Glen Owen. Steve won the Maclay finals on him the year Timmy was "on vacation".
Glen Owen only had one real problem, he would NOT jump a liverpool. That left him out of ever going to the uset finals..

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 1, 2002, 07:20 AM

except the groom of Jerry/Michael/Mr. Ward. And that would have been Jimmy Plummer.

buryinghill1

Jan. 1, 2002, 08:14 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shorty:
Note To WYCDog...
Your trip to LYPHARD CAY might be impossible!
[QUOTE]

Picky Picky, shortstuff.
LYFORD never looked as "elegant" as Lyphard /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 1, 2002, 09:54 AM

Amazon!? You gonna attempt to find the medicine man? Return with a cure for all our favorite equines ailments? Tickets arriving soon!

Yeller. Glad to see you are at your desk today!

The first "cruise" of the year departs Jan. 11. HMS Suburban sails at noon.

Match the horse with a groom.

Plain Jane
Idle Dice
Southside
Balbuco
Riot Free
Chase the Clouds
Sloopy
Mainspring

buryinghill2

Jan. 1, 2002, 10:16 AM

Plain Jane- Andy
Balubuco- Laurie
Ike- Betsy and Dennis
Freakie- Can't quite remember her!

buryinghill1

Jan. 1, 2002, 10:26 AM

WHAT YEAR?!?!?! What rider???

(Sloopy NEVER looked groomed to me! (jus kidding) I would guess Ronnie Silcox).

buryinghill1

Jan. 1, 2002, 10:30 AM

Dina Williams groomed Plain Jane (brother is Jack Williams - you know, the truck driver), worked for Debbie Malloy.

Weatherford

Jan. 1, 2002, 11:22 AM

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Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 1, 2002, 11:44 AM

Jane/Jeanie duPuch
Southside/Souie/that should give you the necessary hint.
Ike/RJ

Abby, I remember a young lady with blonde hair who did Chase the Clouds. Can't remember her name either. LOL

Incorrect on Sloopy. At least the era I was thinking. KLG should know this one.

Who was Emmet's fav?

MHM

Jan. 1, 2002, 11:55 AM

Don't feel bad- I'm too young to know most of these, and I'm probably 20 years older than you!

How are my friends Petey and Casey? I rode Petey over the first jump of his life many years ago.

My trivia question: name horses who won major GPs with at least 2 different riders.

Bonus points: name horses who won $100K classes with different riders.

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 1, 2002, 12:15 PM

I can hear Yellow leafing through her reference library now.

Guessing here.

Balbuco
Southside
Eadenvale
Sympatico...still thinking

Shorty

Jan. 1, 2002, 01:46 PM

IDLE DICE'S GROOMS LUKE RAGLIN, DENNIS & BETSY MCKENZIE, DEBBIE STOEKL.

Shorty

Jan. 1, 2002, 01:53 PM

BILL GLASS groomed for D. Jerry Baker.
J. Basil Ward owned the farm.
Gates Mills , Ohio.
Gran Prix created by Jerry The American Gold Cup, Cleveland Gran Prix, etc.

PaintedWhisper

Jan. 1, 2002, 04:00 PM

Hey guys im just being faithful to my trainer, which by the wayis the answer to the question.
KATRINA D'ANCA
ThreePiO was her Eq Horse, and Jr Hunter
People's Choice ws her Jumper
By Request washer First jr hunter
Woodbine was her Large pony

MHM-
Petey is EXCELLENT. He is THE BEST pony ever. We love him to death! Hes going to be for lease after Devon, altho katrina is trying to find a way to afford him and then eventually retire him to her farm when hes done teaching kids how to do the large ponies.
We love Petey!

*Emily*
*Portrait Painter*
*Whispering Hill*

KLG

Jan. 1, 2002, 09:30 PM

Peter Zeitler, groomed Sloopy, while he was at the USET, not Ronnie Silcox

upperco

Jan. 1, 2002, 09:41 PM

What a Great Idea Keep it going PLEASE

buryinghill1

Jan. 2, 2002, 05:26 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Emmet:
PlainJane - Dana's roomate groomed that goofy horse
Southside/Souie/ blond guy..worked for Donald... KLG HELP ME OUT PLEASE
Ike/RJ (already been answered by others)

Abby, I remember a young lady with blonde hair who did Chase the Clouds. Can't remember her name either. THAT WAS DANA

Who was Emmet's fav? GEORGE WHATSHISNAME? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

buryinghill1

Jan. 2, 2002, 05:40 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by MHM:
My trivia question: name horses who won major GPs with at least 2 different riders.
Bonus points: name horses who won $100K classes with different riders.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Emmet's picks as well, plus
Corsair (NDJ and Leslie); The Natural (RJ and Katherine Burdsall); Sugar Ray; Threes and Sevens;
Gem Twist (three riders!) /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif ; Aramis;
MayBe (Conrad and some Californian I can't recall); Aerobic?; ...

I'll get back to you. Brain empty now.

lauriep

Jan. 2, 2002, 06:06 AM

at work, that is! Blah!
Plain Jane - ?
Idle Dice - Luke Ragland
Southside - Georgia Dunaway
Balbuco - Jr. Johnson, moi
Riot Free - Betsy and Dennis
Chase the Clouds - Dana G.
Sloopy - Peter Z
Mainspring - Dennis (USET's Dennis)

Emmet's favs - she had more than one, George Weber being one and Number One Spy being another, Tindle, Flipper, the list goes on...

Laurie

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 2, 2002, 07:12 AM

Shorty, I'd forgotten about Billy. Plummer must have been after him.

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 3, 2002, 06:53 AM

What phenomenon can be counted on the day you are meant to ship to Florida?

showjump

Jan. 3, 2002, 06:59 AM

Snow!! Like we have right now!!

buryinghill1

Jan. 3, 2002, 07:16 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Emmet: What phenomenon can be counted on the day you are meant to ship to Florida?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Answer:
The "chase car" breaks down!

buryinghill2

Jan. 3, 2002, 07:26 AM

In my experience, bad weather, or more often a sick horse.....

BronkBusterTX

Jan. 3, 2002, 07:27 AM

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Could you please post the correct answers before asking 20 more!?! I keep checking back for answers and I only find more guesses and questions. (Like what horse wrecked with Raymond Burr and ended his career?) (That was a bit before my time.)[hear dry sarcasm]

I also think that all you oldtimers have some great stories, I just wish you didn't all talk at once and when you do, maybe you should put your teeth back in and try to stay focused. [hear affectionate teasing]

And y'all wonder why your great grandchildren are discussing about putting you in homes when they think you can't hear them! SHEESH! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif [hear an empty threat just to keep you on your toes]

BronkBusterTX

Jan. 3, 2002, 07:32 AM

...when you're this old it takes awhile to think up a comeback and try not to lose the thought while you type.

[hear sardonic laughter in background]

buryinghill1

Jan. 3, 2002, 07:43 AM

WHAT ANSWERS?

wtywmn4

Jan. 3, 2002, 07:53 AM

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

Try typing with a JR on your lap. How can anyone stay focused?

The memories being posted are the BEST! Making us all yearn for them. Altho, I will bet many did not yearn while they were going on /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

MHM

Jan. 3, 2002, 08:27 AM

The FL phenoms: your departure is delayed 24 hours but the rest of your clothes are all packed, so you run the clothes you're wearing through the wash so you can put them back on the next day. (Happened to me at least twice.)

The new horse that's going on your load arrived without a Coggins.

The vet who promised to stop out first thing to do the health certificate on that new horse was called away to a colic anyway.

Trivia answers:
Multi-ride winners list- add:
Playback
Moritz

Multi-ride $ winner:
Seven Wonder- Invitational wins w/David Raposa & Chris Kappler. Also was "2nd" by a hair in that class the year there was a timer problem- some would say he really won it 3 times!
He also won the Roanoke $100K at least once.

buryinghill1

Jan. 3, 2002, 09:04 AM

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 3, 2002, 09:37 AM

The aforementioned Seven Wonder would have been one winner of multiple "hundred granders."

Yes, the answer to the "phenom" question is SNOW. But the other answers are appropriate as well. Murphy's Law! I learned to allow for "artistic liscense"!

Who can remember the name of Hill Top's main driver? Hint: his son is still in the biz.

MHM

Jan. 3, 2002, 11:04 AM

It once took us 30 hours in an ice storm to get from NYC to Camden, SC!
I was following the truck at 25 MPH on Rt. 95, and I thought he was going too fast for the road conditions.
Laid over in Camden for just 8 hours, then went the rest of the way so the truck driver's schedule wouldn't be messed up.
Someone who saw me get out of my car at WEF later told me I had looked like a deer in headlights- gee, thanks.

wtywmn4

Jan. 3, 2002, 04:49 PM

Lordy MHM, wasn't that part of departure for FL? Just keep rewashing those clothes, cause there's a blizzard that has just closed the roads. SO, no vet, no health, no coggins and the horse you have been waiting for is someplace in upstate NY. The driver is panicing with it, he doesn't know how far he can get. Could you possibly meet him?????

MHM

Jan. 3, 2002, 05:08 PM

Actually, we did meet another truck in the ice storm to swap a horse. The parking lot was so slick we ran the ramp straight from one truck to the other and led her right across. The potential for heart failure (mine) was high.

buryinghill1

Jan. 4, 2002, 05:56 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by wtywmn4:
_ Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?_
The memories being posted are the BEST! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You want another "Florida" memory? (from back when Wellington wasn't even a dream) ...
"M" horse trucking company sends a truck to "Darien" for annual trip to Florida. Drivers arrive to find GIANT pile of bagged shavings (major grumbling!!), trunks, etc. (and horses). Drivers load trunks, etc. and then shavings. Trainer "C" watches out office window to make sure giant pile of controversial shavings get loaded.
Drivers slam door to "the peak" (appears filled with shavings), horses get loaded, truck leaves quickly! "C" waves goodbye, and from her vantage point cannot see giant pile of shavings in the driveway. Drivers had tossed them out of the other side of "the peak!" I recall the "pile" in the door of the peak was about 12 (of 100).
"C" calls owner of "M" trucking company in anger! Drivers long gone on their way to Palm Beach /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Drivers became folk heroes /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Who can name the trucking company? The drivers? The location of the crime?
MEMORY BANKS ARE FUZZY... MORRISSEYS,
FRANKIE DeS and ?, OX RIDGE,
TRAINER- CAROL <altman> MOLONY
(I await confirmation from a witness!)

[This message was edited by YD on Jan. 04, 2002 at 04:15 PM.]

buryinghill2

Jan. 4, 2002, 06:04 AM

I remember this classic story. It could only be Frankie and Allen from Nyconn. Did this happen at Coker? I remember hearing about this so many times, but the details allude my memory.

ccoronios

Jan. 4, 2002, 06:19 AM

Morrissey's
??
Ox Ridge

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 4, 2002, 06:54 AM

Too funny!!

There was a noted proprietor who, while the "regular" help got the horses bandaged (thirty or so) would slip over to a nearby town and round up all the remaining, currently unemployed, horse knowledgeable "natives." You never knew how many of them would actually arrive in Florida or have jumped ship at the first truck stop.

How (or why)did we do it? I guess youth (or stupidity!) All kidding aside, would one of us not do it all over again?

buryinghill2

Jan. 4, 2002, 07:15 AM

Trucker stories.... When I was a kid, Emerson would make us ride with the horses to the one days, no matter how cold it was. I think he thought it "built character", or more likely he was hoping to discourage us. (It didn't work). I'm talking REALLY cold winter mornings, trips up to two hours. This policy used to upset Lee, (drove for Bill Barry for 40 years). However he had a solution. We would leave the club, Lee would pull over about a mile down the road, load us all up front with him and keep us entertained and warm, until about a mile from the show. Then he would stop again, pile us all back in the trailer for the last five minutes of the trip. We would arrive at the show, and Em was never the wiser! We did this for years...
And no Emmett, I wouldn't trade those experiences and memories for anything.

lauriep

Jan. 4, 2002, 07:32 AM

"Poochy" Gibson. Son, Jimbo.

Dana, we had a shipper in MN who would do the same thing for us! MN winters are the worst, yet all grooms were expected to ride with the horses (and sleep in the tackrooms at the multi-day shows). This fellow would do exactly the same; stop shortly after leaving the farm, put us up front and then reverse the procedure near the show. Once the bosses came up on the van in their car while we were in front; three of us quickly huddled on the floorboards so as not to be seen!

I miss the old days and no, we never gave it a second thought back then. It was all part of the fun.

Laurie

[This message was edited by lauriep on Jan. 04, 2002 at 10:41 AM.]

buryinghill1

Jan. 4, 2002, 07:40 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by wtywmn4: Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?_
The memories being posted are the BEST! Making us all yearn for them. Altho, I will bet many did not yearn while they were going on /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Flew back to US after an international event. 747 with only horses and some motorcycle parts. Like a giant empty whale belly!
Flight organizer had to come up with CASH so that the pilot would take off (this was a little scary to witness, actually).
Boxed lunches served in the "lounge" - above the cargo compartment (used a ladder to climb up). No furniture. Sat on floor. One of the flight crew noticed there were 12 boxes and 13 people. There was a stowaway aboard!!(he had hidden in a horse box holding a dressage horses head - huge white stallion). When we got to Newburgh (NY), the 13th person walked off the plane, leading a horse (like we all did), and caught a ride with one of the horse vans...

Can anybody name the stallion? CHRYSOS (Hilda G!)

[This message was edited by YD on Jan. 04, 2002 at 04:12 PM.]

MHM

Jan. 4, 2002, 08:53 AM

And another...

At a show in Europe, at the end of a LONG Sunday, we packed up the lorry to go home to the farm. As they were pulling out in the Mercedes, the last thing the bosses said was, "If you stop on the way home, make sure somebody stays with the horses." Fine, whatever.

So we get on the road, and in about 15 minutes come to a little village with a fast food place that will obviously be our last chance for food/rest rooms/sodas for hours, but it looks like it's about to close. Of course, we all scramble out to run in before the doors are locked- picture a big clown car at the circus. Just as the last clowns hop out, what do we notice at the drive-through window? A familiar black Mercedes!

So the last person out of the truck saw it, thought on her feet, walked towards the back of the truck, opened the windows more, and waited for the first person to come back beore she went in to get food.

We were all so proud of outsmarting the boss- that hardly ever happened in that operation!

[This message was edited by MHM on Jan. 04, 2002 at 12:02 PM.]

buryinghill1

Jan. 4, 2002, 01:16 PM

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 4, 2002, 03:00 PM

I may need some assistance on the details but...

How about Ronnie Silcox hiding in the beautifully bedded straw stall, that would be under the banks waiting for Veile to walk into the stall. Ronnie would leap from beneath the wheat and Veile would react with characteristic fright. You'd think Veile would have gotten wise because we were all skulking around waiting for his reaction.

And one time he got left in a stall, and I don't mean a horse's.

And then there was Bert and his primadonna's. Just why do these girls have to have a hotel room?

And then there was the night of the Irish vermouth. Never before and certainly not since.

So who were the participants that night in Dublin? Hint: Anne Reynolds groom of Rasputin was one.

Hey Yeller, what's with the abbreviation?

MHM

Jan. 4, 2002, 06:11 PM

Went back and looked at this whole thread- so many great stories!

Hats off to Alex Trebek for the idea.

Hey YD- Did you ever get an answer about which AHSA judge was licensed in every division across the board (around page 9)?

I know of one, but I bet it's not the same one you're thinking of! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Janet

Jan. 4, 2002, 07:29 PM

Would that be Stephen or Arthur Hawkins?

equitationlane

Jan. 4, 2002, 07:46 PM

How about Alex Foreman /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

wtywmn4

Jan. 5, 2002, 06:12 AM

ROFLMAO

Too funny Emmett.....And oh, those cob webs have been dusted out, and do remember hearing the infamous story of the shavings....One never REALLY got over on those vanning companies.

And yes Emmett, would do it ALL over again. Think it's why we're all such nice people /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

That would be Stephen, across the board licsensing.

upperco

Jan. 5, 2002, 06:21 AM

Joe Vanario-and one in Ca.-can't remember his name

jumpsalot

Jan. 5, 2002, 07:24 AM

also had Full Fare-
D.D. Alexander Matz

lauriep

Jan. 5, 2002, 08:04 AM

or just haven't had enough coffee - verify the answer to the Hilltop driver question, please.

Still waiting for answers to: Conrad's Medal/Maclay horses, one of which was Golden Alibhai, who was the other?

And, what was the devastating illness Frances suffered which delayed Joe and Conrad's split with her?

Laurie

MHM

Jan. 5, 2002, 08:36 AM

Hit the nail on the head!

Joe Vanorio was a wonderful gentleman who really did it all- everything from stunt riding in early cowboy movies to helping NDJ prepare for his World Cup Finals win on I Love You. And in between he would help anybody with any horse in any discipline.

Plus he taught my mother to ride! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 5, 2002, 12:41 PM

Yes, LP, Poochie was who I had in mind.

Awfully quiet here today. What is it with you guys? Only playing Double Jep on the boss's time? LOL.

Who was Betty Oare's great working hunter? (Cummon Alex, I know you know the answer to this one.)

Who was Jack Payne's famous conformation hunter?

equitationlane

Jan. 5, 2002, 03:10 PM

That would be the wonderful Navy Commander! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

equitationlane

Jan. 5, 2002, 03:12 PM

Cold Climate would be the other one that Jack Payne rode for Mrs. Dean Rucker.

Do I win the cruise yet? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

wtywmn4

Jan. 5, 2002, 05:45 PM

upperco, think the Ca judge= Larry Mayfield??

HooTooDo remember when Betty Oare received Navy Commander as an engagement gift?????

Alex Trebek

Jan. 5, 2002, 07:17 PM

All right Emmet, you've thrown down the gauntlet, name the grey mare owned by Jack Payne who was successful in the small hunters and the rider. And for two first class seats on that cruise, name the show where Patty H. left for her father's funeral and the person who catch rode there for her.

upperco

Jan. 5, 2002, 07:31 PM

He owned Marianna ridden by his daughter Sara Nan-he also rode Spanish Mint in the conf for Mrs Rucker I guess maybe Gene Cunningham might have ridden Patty
's horses at upperville? What state was Mrs.Rucker from and where were Betty and Navy Commander based

upperco

Jan. 5, 2002, 07:34 PM

Not Larry Mayfield-it was a long time ago-I'll hopefully remember.

upperco

Jan. 5, 2002, 07:38 PM

Where did he win them and who were the judges?

MHM

Jan. 5, 2002, 08:25 PM

What rider and (BB poster) was champion at Lake Placid in the regular working hunters at the ripe old age of 14?

Bonus points for the horse's name, trainer, and the year.

No, the rider in question may not answer!

buryinghill1

Jan. 6, 2002, 08:58 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MHM:
...champion at Lake Placid in the regular working hunters at the ripe old age of 14?...[QUOTE]
No clue!! Please give us a clue! :-)
How about Alice Debany? Alison Firestone?

Judge licensed in all AHSA divisions? Yes it was "Uncle" Joe Vanorio (god bless him)! He talked me (and parental units) into rescuing a Lippizan from certain meat packing (who, incidently, turned out to be a wonderful horse). He showed me (in the midst of famous hunter, jumper and eventing trainers), to listen to the plethora of horsemen, but hear what my horses had to "say" first. I learned a lot about how a horse thinks from him.
He was licensed in 21 divisions (back then it included Walking Horses, Apps, QH and other breeds who have since left the AHSA).
He was the only one. One other held licenses for 20 divisions.
YES WE DID HAVE CARS AND ELECTRICITY BACK THEN! heehee
Anybody remember his sons name - who managed "Kentucky Stables?" (I don't sorry!).

To all going to convention - fly carefully (wear shoes that slip off!).
Ma? Shouldn't you be packing that flax seed and not hanging out on the chatpages? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

MHM

Jan. 6, 2002, 10:56 AM

Je ne suis pas- comment dit-on "deaf" en francais? /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I believe Joe's son Dick is still at Kentucky Stables near White Plains. My mother and I stopped in to visit Uncle Joe there in the spring of '97, less than a year before he passed away. At that time, Uncle Joe would still spend a lot of time in a chair in front of the barn, watching the activity in the ring.

At one time, a friend of his was trying to organize his story and memories into a book, but unfortunately that project wasn't ever completed. That would have been the ultimate horseman's guide.

A clue, a clue...
Not Alice nor Alison- closer to the other end of the alphabet, and a professional's child (surprise, surprise).

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 6, 2002, 12:09 PM

Not a clue, Alex. I only go as far back as Jeannie Watt riding for JP. Speaking of JP, what grey jumper got it's start in Gordonsville, and travelled around Virginia, ending up at the LA Games as the "reserve" horse? For a seat with the captain-what local eatery did Jack frequent for at least two meals a day?

Fourteen year old...guessing here-Liza Towell? (That far enough to the other end of the alphabet?)

YD...the flax is packed! And none too soon. It's raining ice water. Guess we're gonna have to use Seven Oaks indoor next week.

buryinghill1

Jan. 6, 2002, 01:06 PM

Just to see if the youngsters have been paying attention...
What was the "barn name" for "I Love You?"
What was the "barn name" for "Chase The Clouds?"
What was the "barn name" for "McLain?"
What was the "barn name" for "Idle Dice?"
What was the "barn name" for "Balbuco?"
What was the "barn name" for "Jet Run?"

First correct answer (for all of 'em) gets top deck cabin (next to Emmets).

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 6, 2002, 01:17 PM

Who rode the grey hunter "Castle Creek?" (Stateroom on the line.)

MHM

Jan. 6, 2002, 01:22 PM

Close to the right place in the alphabet, but almost a generation earlier.

Another clue- the trainer in question is now the Towells' neighbor.

Did we give up on the French? How about Spanish next? Then I'm pretty much out of languages. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

wtywmn4

Jan. 6, 2002, 06:52 PM

upperco, Don Burt= Ca. judge?

See when a name pops into one's head, you must post it..... /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

showjump

Jan. 6, 2002, 07:37 PM

What rider and (BB poster) was champion at Lake Placid in the regular working hunters at the ripe old age of 14?

Gary Young 1974? Rodger Young Trainer Slapshot Horse
Maybe this is correct

Alex Trebek

Jan. 7, 2002, 05:21 AM

Wow showjump - I'm impressed - seriously! Emmet, I think we've just been put out to pasture.

The J.Payne horse I was thinking of, w/Jeanie by the way, was Molly Cotton.

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 7, 2002, 06:41 AM

Gary Young. Ah, yes, the neighbor clue headed me north.

Alex, got snow?! So, I knew half of the JP ?!! Still waiting for an answer to mine.

I'm not ready for Dr. Green yet. Perish the thought! LOL

Alex Trebek

Jan. 7, 2002, 07:15 AM

Drawing a blank on the Castle Creek.....clearly you aren't talking about Phyllis's "new" young Castle Creek.....Castle Creek, Castle Hill, Castle Magic...hmmm.....RJ would be too obvious right? LOL

Yep, snow and snow and snow. WEF calls.

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 7, 2002, 07:54 AM

Grey jr. hunter shown in the 60's by Matt Collins.

We're just sending a set over to our neighbor's indoor! No outdoor riding here, either. Icy. Leaving for WEF on Sat. See you there?

buryinghill1

Jan. 7, 2002, 08:02 AM

Drive carefully /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

MHM

Jan. 7, 2002, 08:11 AM

We only have the correct trainer of the 14 year old. Still waiting on horse, rider, and year.

Have a safe trip, everybody!

lauriep

Jan. 7, 2002, 08:38 AM

and be sure to take that laptop so you don't lose your cruise placement!

See you on Feb. 20th! Be ready for some serious reunioning on the 23rd!

Laurie

Alex Trebek

Jan. 7, 2002, 08:45 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by MHM:
We only have the correct trainer of the 14 year old. Still waiting on horse, rider, and year.

Have a safe trip, everybody!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Jenny Jones? 1995?

MHM

Jan. 7, 2002, 08:54 AM

For correct rider, horse and year.

But a good guess by Alex! May I present you with a lovely can of Turtle Wax? Or perhaps some kitchen cleaning products?

Really, I had no idea this one would be so hard.

Alex Trebek

Jan. 7, 2002, 08:56 AM

Is Gary Young the correct trainer? If so, I amend my answer - Holly Hays! LOL

buryinghill1

Jan. 7, 2002, 09:14 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by showjump:
Roger Young Trainer <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am confused. Roger trained. Right? Must have been a while back (don't recall seeing him in LP after the 70s).
Hints???

MHM

Jan. 7, 2002, 09:32 AM

Roger and Judy trained the child of another pro to this feat. Should they have gone to JAIL or PRISON for child abuse? (No!)

YD- you're warm on the year.

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buryinghill1

Jan. 7, 2002, 10:59 AM

Nice hints. I still have no idea. But I'm guessing it was James Hulick. Terre Cotta?
Who needs a stupid cruise anyhow. /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

MHM

Jan. 7, 2002, 11:34 AM

Good guess, but you're still shoveling coal to get on the cruise ship.

I didn't think you had to be PRE-HISTORIC to get this one!
Holy CATS!

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wtywmn4

Jan. 7, 2002, 07:53 PM

Hmmm MHM, Roger & Judy trainers, 70's era? End of the alphabet, professionals kid....I know you gave us a big fat hint with Holy CATS!!!

Janet

Jan. 7, 2002, 08:35 PM

End of alphabet- Ward????

buryinghill1

Jan. 8, 2002, 06:40 AM

Not Ward. McLain was BORN in 75 thereabouts.
Cats? I am stuck on Katz, meow, lion, tiger...
Jail? Other than Hulick, Ward,... I recall nobody.
So I give up.
cruises are stupid anyhow /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
(going to pout in corner now) /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

MHM

Jan. 8, 2002, 07:32 AM

Are so close you're going to kick yourselves!

Do I hear a collective "uncle?"

At least this hasn't been DULL.

Alex Trebek

Jan. 8, 2002, 07:45 AM

No, no "uncle" yet, although I'm ashamed to admit I was trying to figure this out in the wee hours....LOL Another clue?

buryinghill1

Jan. 8, 2002, 07:46 AM

Holy Smoke
Bert Mutch
1979

MY FINAL ANSWER

(YD whispers "uncle" in the same breath)

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 8, 2002, 07:55 AM

Well done. Your cruise ticket can be obtained at the will call window, tent (check with David O) at WEF. Tickets valid for undisclosed time period.

See me at WEF? Are you "poking" with the other ladies?

buryinghill1

Jan. 8, 2002, 07:59 AM

What reference library? That came from my (fuzzy) head. And I'm sure it's wrong anyhow. Dull? Prison? Cat?
Was that right MHM?????
<cruise looking less stupid>

Alex Trebek

Jan. 8, 2002, 08:05 AM

And end of alphabet? I'm not following the clues either. Except the "holy" one.

MHM

Jan. 8, 2002, 08:26 AM

It pains me to say it, but that was not correct. I was tempted to pretend it was, after all the brainwork and logical guesses, but that's probably how that quiz show scandal started.

Let's review:

PRE-HISTORIC CATS/JAIL or PRISON/DULL

(Drumroll, please)

Sabra Warden on Boren, Judy and Roger, c. 1982

Sabra posts on the BB, but she must not have seen this one. She owned the late, great stallion Mandarin, and is in business now at her parents' farm in upstate NY.

I was not an eyewitness, but it was a hot topic in our neck of the woods that summer- I think she was champion both weeks.

The jail/warden clue was not meant as a red herring; it completely slipped my mind it could indicate other people!

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buryinghill1

Jan. 8, 2002, 08:31 AM

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wtywmn4

Jan. 8, 2002, 08:32 AM

I am so fogged out here MHM. Guess it's the hour.

Okay, neeeeeeeeeeeext?????? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Alex Trebek

Jan. 8, 2002, 08:38 AM

Okay, an easier one: bay mare shown successfully in the regulars in the late 70's by "colorful" Southern Pines trainer who now has an antiques business.

MHM

Jan. 8, 2002, 08:45 AM

I may retire from the triva game and rest on my laurels. I could never hope to stump the panel again!

YD/Emmet- do I know you in the 3D world? When/where will you be at WEF? Email me if you want-

MHM floats off on her inflatable lounge chair, soaking up the rays and sipping a drink with a little umbrella in it. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[This message was edited by MHM on Jan. 08, 2002 at 12:25 PM.]

Kennett Square

Jan. 8, 2002, 09:41 AM

Well the trainer was Joey Darby and I can see the mare in my mind. But the way I see her is misbehaving and Joey then showing us all how to do his patented "Joey Darby Spin" to make her see the error of her ways...I do remember it was sold up North later that year.

Alex Trebek

Jan. 8, 2002, 09:43 AM

Poor KS, those late night frolics don't do much for your brain cells huh?! Yep, right trainer, but I'm afraid that partial answer will not get you on the cruise ship. Think musical instruments.....

equitationlane

Jan. 8, 2002, 10:32 AM

Was that the very small, but cute Motor Mouth?

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 8, 2002, 10:35 AM

Joe Darby/Balalika (or however you spell it.) Tried her hand in the jumper ring after that.

Still waiting for an answer to my last query. Hint: If one was aboard said cruise ship, one could see his name.

Alex Trebek

Jan. 8, 2002, 10:36 AM

correcto

wtywmn4

Jan. 8, 2002, 04:58 PM

Oh Emmett, here you are in the first class state room now. While MHM is bouncing around in the pool. You will just have to give the rest of us a chance, at being able to come on board as gophers....????

showjump

Jan. 8, 2002, 06:28 PM

I believe Linda Wasserman owned the mare. She was a Jr maybe Amateur that rode with Joey.

Alex Trebek

Jan. 8, 2002, 06:30 PM

Don't think Linda owned that one showjump, but I bet you can name the chestnut that she did show w/Joey as a junior, right?!

lauriep

Jan. 8, 2002, 06:34 PM

who showed Balalaika (correct spelling!) in the jumpers?

Laurie

MHM

Jan. 8, 2002, 07:05 PM

I thought I was drifting away in the ocean after being thrown overboard by a YD-led angry mob! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

wtywmn4

Jan. 8, 2002, 08:03 PM

But doesn't the pool sound better? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif None of those waves to knock you upside down....

MHM

Jan. 8, 2002, 09:16 PM

The pool does sound much better, come to think of it! Oh, towel boy...

Kennett Square

Jan. 9, 2002, 04:18 AM

MHM,

The towel boy is helping my cabana boy at the moment. Cabana boy is massaging oil into my fair Irish skin. Towel boy is running off to get me a pitcher of boat drinks....You must wait your turn on the cruise and get a few more correct answers before I have to turn him back over to you. I will have him properly trained by then.

Alex Trebek

Jan. 9, 2002, 04:54 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Emmet:
For a seat with the captain-what local eatery did Jack frequent for at least two meals a day?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Innwood.

showjump

Jan. 9, 2002, 04:55 AM

Loveable Truly I loved that horse.

Alex Trebek

Jan. 9, 2002, 05:32 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by showjump:
Loveable Truly I loved that horse.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Correct and ditto!

buryinghill1

Jan. 9, 2002, 05:53 AM

Name the rider(s):
Icey Paws
The Roofer
Boston Taxi
Viscount
Felton
Signal Point
Linky
Rio
Victor

buryinghill2

Jan. 9, 2002, 05:58 AM

Icey Paws- Have no idea
The Roofer- Katie, Caroline Clark-?
Boston Taxi- Bert
Viscount- Buddy
Felton- Buddy, won the invitational on him
Signal Pt.- Jamie Mann
Linky- Tim Grubb
Rio- George M.
Victor- Joan S.

How did I do?

Home babysitting a sick dog and have way too much time on my hands!

lauriep

Jan. 9, 2002, 06:25 AM

it was RJ.

She's got the rest covered!

Laurie

Alex Trebek

Jan. 9, 2002, 06:31 AM

Speaking of Icey Paws, name the horse with a very similar name and the junior who showed him.

equitationlane

Jan. 9, 2002, 07:26 AM

The Roofer, that would be Will Simpson /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 9, 2002, 07:33 AM

Boot up, check out DJ, you guys have me LMAO!

Alex, excellent. BTW, the imfamous Inwood is still open for biz. Now what about the grey horse that Jack had early in it's career? Jeanie rode that one too.

Cold Feet? Jr. Hunter?

Victor - along with Joanie Laarakers, Marlene Sinclair.

RJ also rode Viscount and I think Gigi Gaston threw a leg over Icey Paws too. Bucky Reynolds had him at some point also.

Alex Trebek

Jan. 9, 2002, 07:41 AM

Hmmm....will have to think on the grey horse - they were ALL grey for awhile there! LOL

Frosty Paws, Todd McDevitt

buryinghill1

Jan. 9, 2002, 07:49 AM

Such a smart flock! Youse guys are all correct on the riders!
Watch the sun, y'all. Maybe Luis needs to slather a little more oil
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Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 9, 2002, 07:50 AM

Go back a page or two and reread clue as to grey's identity.

LP, I can see said mare (Bal)but can't for the life of me remember who rode her. Clue? She was wearing the red, white and blue for a while, right?

Where's the Golden Dawg this a.m.?

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 9, 2002, 07:52 AM

Pond retreiver present and accounted for. Morning yd!

buryinghill2

Jan. 9, 2002, 07:52 AM

Still wondering about Marlene Sinclair. Anyone know where she is?

buryinghill1

Jan. 9, 2002, 08:02 AM

Name the rider(s) from the "other ring":

Goodnight Moon
Outlook
Play The Music
Hard To Be Humble
Watership Down
Romparound
Gala Performance
Bugsy Malone
Shakespeare

buryinghill2

Jan. 9, 2002, 08:14 AM

How did you come up with this list? I'll do the ones I know...
Goodnight Moon- Tracy
Outlook-
Play the Music-
Hard to be Humble- Jerry Jacobs
Watership Down- Karen Nielsen, in his prime.
Romparound- I should know this, but I don't.
Gala Performance- Leslie's first junior hunter. Where did you pull this name out of? It's ancient!
Bugsy Malone- Molly Ashe, in his prime
Shakespeare- a junior that road with Norman, I can't remember her name. Karen? Syd worked for her.

That's the best I can do.

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 9, 2002, 10:31 AM

Outlook aka Reily/ Bunny French

Watership - also Martha Sifton

Shakespere - Karen McKelvy?

MHM

Jan. 9, 2002, 10:32 AM

Abby beat me to the buzzer on most of them!

Outlook- Bunny French?

buryinghill1

Jan. 9, 2002, 10:53 AM

Play The Music - rider hint: TX, MD, VT
Romparound - rider hint: IA
Shakespeare - I decided this was too hard. So-Karen McKenzie, Calgary, Alberta, Canada. VERY good try on Abby's part. Therefore ABBY buys the first round of fave 'brellie drink /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
White russians, right?
Abby, you always said my head was full of useless trivia!
Bugsy was a KEM Farm (Wachtel) horse, and went to Beacon Hill towards the end of his career. I have to confess my mind just went blank and I forgot who rode him. oops.

[This message was edited by yd on Jan. 09, 2002 at 02:04 PM.]

buryinghill2

Jan. 9, 2002, 11:01 AM

Timmy purchase WD from Vince Dugan, he had previously raced over timber. He sold him to a junior named Tammy Freund and the Freunds traded him to the Nielsens for a horse named Summer Solstice. He went from Karen Nielsen to Jenny Belknap.
Real trivia, Karen Mackenzies grey hunter Shakespeare was out of the same mare as the Nielsen kids great equitation horse French Leave.

MHM

Jan. 9, 2002, 11:06 AM

How many riders/divisions can you name for Godspeed?

buryinghill1

Jan. 9, 2002, 11:32 AM

Now THAT was a great horse!
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Deeridge?

MHM

Jan. 9, 2002, 01:06 PM

I know Katie did him in both the junior hunters AND jumpers, though possibly not at the same show!

I think Louie did him some as well- open speeds, maybe?

Funny how times have changed, isn't it? Now kids use three equitation horses- a practice horse, a show horse, and a finals specialist. Not many horses wear different hats these days!

Speaking of finals, what was the name and color of the horse Leslie won the Maclay on?
Bonus points: What was "different" about her attire?
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BLBGP

Jan. 9, 2002, 01:14 PM

Is that the same Watership Down Megan Johnstone (now Lamaze) showed in the Juniors when she first started doing the 3'6"?

buryinghill2

Jan. 9, 2002, 01:15 PM

Leslie won her Maclay on a pinto mare name Suzette. She belonged to Sharon Cole. When she showed in the Fla. class, she borrowed a pinto from Missy Clark named Scout-a-bout. He was eventually sold to the Firestones. She wore show clothes from the year she won. It was great!

What do I win for all that info?

buryinghill2

Jan. 9, 2002, 01:16 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by BLBGP:
Is that the same Watership Down Megan Johnstone (now Lamaze) showed in the Juniors when she first started doing the 3'6"?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes it is.

MHM

Jan. 9, 2002, 01:21 PM

My undying admiration!

I believe she wore brown boots for both occasions- possibly even the same ones!

[This message was edited by MHM on Jan. 09, 2002 at 04:42 PM.]

I am so tired

Jan. 9, 2002, 01:31 PM

Owned & ridden by Maggie Moss in the A/O.

buryinghill1

Jan. 9, 2002, 01:31 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Abby:
What do I win for all that info?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
go to www.emmetsfreecruises.com (http://www.emmetsfreecruises.com)
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Romparound--- correct!
Still no takers on Play The Music??
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lauriep

Jan. 9, 2002, 01:54 PM

Dottie Flanders (now Ammerman, I'm told?)!

Ma, hint for ya: also rode a white-faced chestnut jumper with a "fatherly" nickname.

Good job, you hunter experts! How did you ever pick one of the few I had to care for????

Laurie

Jaysee

Jan. 9, 2002, 03:03 PM

Hilary someone from California had Godspeed before Deeridge... and both Louie and Katie did him in the jr jumpers... jr hunters.. a/o jumpers, open speeds.. He was very versatile!!

If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand.....

Ruby G. Weber

Jan. 9, 2002, 03:03 PM

OMG YD you make me LOL. /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

By the way, I knew the Suzette/Sharon Hardy Cole connection too! And if memory serves me, we've been there, several hundred pages ago.

Mr. Emmet wants to know who remembers what show the "rather well endowed" female streaked and went for a "shower" in the fountain? And what year was it?

And YD, didn't Shakespeare end up with Boots?

Play the Music - why am I thinking Ian Miller?

Leesa

Jan. 9, 2002, 04:28 PM

Gigi Gaston

buryinghill2

Jan. 9, 2002, 04:43 PM

A horse at Fairfield was on the truck traveling home when the junior rider was called back at the Medal finals. She had been mistakenly left off the first two standbys. The very efficient barn manager(joke, who could that have been?)had the horse down the road.
What junior rider went off course when riding back on top at the Medal finals? Middle to late eighties.

Leesa

Jan. 9, 2002, 04:46 PM

What junior missed the flat of the Maclay finals because they were at church?
(They thought the flat was in the afternoon.)

I thought if I posted the answer here after someone got it right it might be a solution to the problem of questions without answers.
Answer: Kim Rachuba, I hope I spelt it correctly.

[This message was edited by Leesa on Jan. 11, 2002 at 08:15 PM.]

buryinghill2

Jan. 9, 2002, 04:58 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Leesa:
What junior missed the flat of the Maclay finals because they were at church?
(They thought the flat was in the afternoon.)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I remember hearing that story but I can't remember who it was..

MHM

Jan. 9, 2002, 05:18 PM

My friend's favorite horse was unbraided, poulticed, wrapped, and pulling out of the driveway at the Meadowlands when the judges realized they had lost her number.

He got the "Indy 500 pit crew" tack up and braid job, and the kid finished third in the class. He ground tied in the parking lot for the excitement- that's why he was the favorite.

Off course- Sara Willeman did that, but not in the 80's.

Alex Trebek

Jan. 9, 2002, 06:35 PM

wtywmn4

Jan. 9, 2002, 08:10 PM

East or west coast rider? Kim Benzel?

dublin

Jan. 9, 2002, 08:42 PM

This is off topic, but I have sent you two e-mails the past two days that got returned as undeliverable. Do you have a new e-mail address? Drop me a note, okay?

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Tackpud

Jan. 10, 2002, 05:35 AM

At church during the flat phase - Kim Batista?

buryinghill1

Jan. 10, 2002, 05:35 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Abby: What junior rider went off course when riding back on top at the Medal finals? Middle to late eighties.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Alan K?
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buryinghill1

Jan. 10, 2002, 05:38 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Leesa:What junior missed the flat of the Maclay finals because they were at church?
(They thought the flat was in the afternoon.)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Lisa C? (Kim B. sounds familiar too)
Off to the coffee pot!!!!!!!!

Lauriep: I forgot PTM was one of your kids!

Kennett Square

Jan. 10, 2002, 05:50 AM

Sorry but it was Kinm Rahuba (?) that was at church. Now that should seal the 21 day cruise to the Amazon complete with Cabana boy, Massuse (?) and handsome drink Gopher!!! Not to mention first class and at the Captains table every night!!

buryinghill1

Jan. 10, 2002, 05:55 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kennett Square:
Sorry but it was Kinm Rahuba (?) that was at church. [QUOTE]
mother of Emily and Hannah
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MHM

Jan. 10, 2002, 06:13 AM

Just one more reason so many horse people are heathens!

Easy one: Who was the rider, horse and trainer to win the Maclay the first time they tried to limit the number in the Garden, and what was the year?

lauriep

Jan. 10, 2002, 06:17 AM

Balalaika's jumper rider.

Name three grooms who had lengthy careers in CA before moving east and continuing here. This is open-ended, as I am sure there are more than three, but these are pretty well known!

Ma, breed Ruby!

Laurie

buryinghill2

Jan. 10, 2002, 06:28 AM

Yes it was Alan K. that went off course when called back on top at the Medal finals. I wasn't there, but I heard it was not pretty with George, Frank and Bill.

buryinghill1

Jan. 10, 2002, 07:00 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by lauriep:
Name three grooms who had lengthy careers in CA before moving east and continuing here. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Carl Davis
Willa Weller
not a clue.

[This message was edited by yd on Jan. 10, 2002 at 11:30 AM.]

lauriep

Jan. 10, 2002, 08:20 AM

But I only count two (arf, arf).

I hadn't thought of Carl, but Willa is one of the three...Also, I think Carl started here, then went to CA where he is now. His folks are near D.C...in the early 70's, when I first met him, he was well established here...

Fetch another!

Laurie

[This message was edited by lauriep on Jan. 10, 2002 at 12:31 PM.]