"DOUBLE JEOPARDY!" - Old Horse Show Trivia

[Carol Ames]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alex Trebek:

2) Ultra cute palamino with many wins in the '70's in the a/o's at the best A shows on the east coast, including Devon. Shown by a now R judge who still competes in the adults and a/o's.

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Who was Lemon Springs?

[Shorty]

Emmet, I'm glad you finally put on your Thinking Cap and came up with "In My Cap"...

Who brought out Not Always ?
Who owned him ?
Name at least 3 of his riders..

[Ruby G. Weber]

You are REALLY testing me. I'm not sure I can answer the whole question. Let's see... Rodney rode him, Peggy and ?

Peggy owned him and I don't know who brought him out unless it was Cappy Smith.

I never saw him in person, although he looks like, from his pics, he was a great jumper.

[wtywmn4]

Oh, oh I know, (says wty jumping up & down). Eggy Mills showed him and retired him at Devon. Having been lucky enough to watch, and drool over him. Hmmm, Beverly Steinman owned him. Okay thats it. Brain drain....

[Ruby G. Weber]

Shorty stumped me. But where was Alex on that one?

[lauriep]

Not a great jumper, but ridden by many people, it seems. Joanie showed him with the team many years ago. Last seen by me in MN as an A/O hunter with a friend of mine named Debbie Dickman.

Laurie

[Ruby G. Weber]

Name the high fashion model who rode at Secor in the 60's and for the daily double, name her horse.

[MBS]

The only high fashion model I can think of was Jennifer O'neil and one of her horse's name Covergirl

[Ruby G. Weber]

Secor-White Plains, NY

[Alex Trebek]

Speaking of poor Danny Robertshaw....name a) the trainer with whom he rode as a junior, and b) the first trainer for whom he rode professionally, and got his start.

[This message was edited by Alex Trebek on Nov. 13, 2001 at 08:25 AM.]

[Shorty]

Not Always...

Brought out by M. Edgar Mills.
Owned by Peggy Steinman from Lancaster, Pa.
Shown by Eggy Mills, R. J., Terry Rudd, etc
Sold to Adele Nichols from Pa, who tried to show him herself.
He spent some time at Hunter King's in Malvern. After that
no one seems to know ?

[Shorty]

Nicknames...
Match the nickname with the real name.....
Rodney Jenkins - there are several here !
Dale Jenkins -
Bobby Lambert -
Tiger & Turkey -
Kathy Kusner -

[buryinghill1]

Now, here's one from me! (after 2 cupsa cawfee)

Mark Laskin rode a borrowed horse in the American Invitational (early 80's).
(the thread on M.L. reminded me I've wanted to ask this question...)

Name the horse (please).

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clue- usual rider was Norman D.J.

[Ruby G. Weber]

I'm not sure I can answer all but I'll give it a go...

Red Rider=Rodney Jenkins (I can still hear Billy Haggard jiggling the change in his pocket, remember Shorty?)

Shorty=Dale Jenkins

Chops=Bobby Lambert

Tiger=? Was he a Douglas?

Turkey=Edward Twyman

Kuz=KK

Good one Shorty!!

Now Yellow...guessing here but Johnny?

[buryinghill1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emmet:

Now Yellow...guessing here but Johnny?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Emmet wins another round.
Mark Laskin borrowed Johnny's Pocket and showed in the American Invitational.
/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I have a picture!

Hmmm. How can I stump Emmet.

[Bumpkin]

Ok girls what is the answer!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Name of Horse
Year it happened and who was riding the horse?

[Ruby G. Weber]

Too bad I don't have Yellow's resources.

My guess for the rider is Tommy Serio. Or it could be Olin Armstrong or Charlie Weaver or Gary Ryman or....

I defer to Alex on this one.

[buryinghill1]

Nelson Green - CH A Sweet Treat.

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[lauriep]

but the nickname question is one I could have answered, too, if I'd seen it in time! Drat!

Judging by your mental accuity of late, the coffee company stocks must really be peaking due to your consumption! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Laurie

[Ruby G. Weber]

So what was Tiger's real name?

[wtywmn4]

Think Emmett has it with Charlie Weaver. Now for the horse and the year hmmm......Could I please have a double expresso? LARGE

[Shorty]

DON'T QUIT YOUR DAY JOB CATEGORY :
Name the 'job' the people list below had before doing horses.
Dr. Steve O'Grady
Dr. Robert C. Rost
Danny Robertshaw
Ronnie Mutch
Frank Chapot
A.Thom Brede

[Bumpkin]

Tommy Serio riding Cavalier Bid 1988/89 /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[upperco]

OGrady,blacksmith Rost vet Chapot Buxton leather salesman.Brede Esso Mutch advertising

[buryinghill1]

Chapot was a pilot too (USAF)

[Tackpud]

Day job

Danny Robertshaw used to be an English teacher I think... Someone told me that years ago.

[buryinghill1]

I heard one of our current hunter trainers was a Rhodes Scholar.
Any truth to this rumor??

[wtywmn4]

Good one Shorty Okay next question please Alex...

[867-5309]

YD: I have a question! Do you know what the CH stands for in the name CH A Sweet Treat?

I don't know the answer, I just wondered. Saddlebreds that win at their Worlds Championships in KY get a "CH" prefix put in front of their name.

anyone?

"Are you doing the litmus configuration?"
~Jonathan Mardukis~
Midnight Run

[buryinghill1]

Maybe I need to change my name!
CH is a "champion" designation (horse won blah blah number of points in A-rated classes).
WC is a world champion (me! me!)
RWC is reserve world champion
The name would be announced (always) as
CHAMPION YELLOWDOG

I love the sound of that /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[867-5309]

Thanks WC Yellowdog (prounounced "Champion YellowDog")! I didn't realize it was done in the different disciplines.

You are certainly the WC of trivia as well!

"Are you doing the litmus configuration?"
~Jonathan Mardukis~
Midnight Run

[buryinghill1]

I'm not old enough to be a trivia wiz.
(Princesswc stop rolling your eyes!!)

Next question please, Alex. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bacteria-Laden Standing Water is to be Rolled In.

adendum:
WGC = World Grand Champion
RWGC= reserve...

[This message was edited by WC YellowDog on Nov. 15, 2001 at 11:18 AM.]

[This message was edited by WC YellowDog on Nov. 15, 2001 at 11:20 AM.]

[Ruby G. Weber]

I guess to earn the prefix WC you must have gotten the pond scum off?

BTW...which horse lunged backwards into the pond at some show in Canada (can't remember the name of it) and emerged with algae draped over it's ears and the bitting rig and who was the lunger?

[buryinghill1]

I changed my mind... Coastline!
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[This message was edited by WC YellowDog on Nov. 15, 2001 at 02:29 PM.]

[lauriep]

the lunger had to be - Emmet?

Laurie

[C-Urchn]

Alex? Is this the longest running thread? And has it had the most "views?"
Has it hit a record for most lurks?

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[Ruby G. Weber]

You are both wrong! Keep guessing. Hint: horse was chestnut and belonged to Frances Rowe. And no I was not the lunger. Hint: lunger had previously been in the employ of Patty Huekeroth.

And if it's not the longest running thread, we need to keep it going so it ends up in the Guiness Book of most entertaining and least relevant.

Where's Alex? Run out of stumpers?

[lauriep]

Turkey?

Laurie

[Ruby G. Weber]

Not Turkey. Second hint: lunger was female.

[Gnarly]

Vickie somebody?
I can't remember.

[buryinghill1]

(Alex, you are INELIGIBLE!)

What breed of horse is featured at Alex's Creston Farms?

Bacteria-Laden Standing Water is to be Rolled In.

[LaurieB]

Vicki Hanson?

[Ruby G. Weber]

No, not Vicki Hanson, but a good guess. Although the Patty H connection is there. One more hint: this female was working for Hill Top at the time.

I'll check in tomorrow with the answer if no one has it by then.

[Molly99]

Oh, Yellowdog.

Is your age is dog years or not?

By the way what show did you earn your WC status? /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I of course am the true WC, princess, that is /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[buryinghill1]

WC Yellowdog earned the title from wins (imaginary or otherwise) at the FINEST tin-roof events in the world. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Princess might be the TRUE WC, but at least I can pass the testers.
Age? I am timeless. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Yesterday pop quiz: Alex Trebeck's farm has Thoroughbreds.

Alex... more????

A dirty dog is a happy dog.

[lauriep]

And was the horse correct? Frances didn't "own" many horses, B.J. being one she did. If not, more clues for the horse!

Laurie

[C-Urchn]

More please /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Ruby G. Weber]

I'll forgive the spelling...NeDDie.

As for the WC Yellowdog, Ruby has now added the necessary jewels to her crown!

[Shorty]

WHO RODE 'EM ?
YOU MUST NAME AT LEAST 2 RIDERS FOR EACH HORSE>
IDLE DICE
ALBANY
QUIET FLIGHT
NIGHT MURMUR
SUNDANCER
BALBUCO
JET RUN
TOUCH OF CLASS
ABDULLAH

[Janet]

IDLE DICE
Rodey Jenkins

ALBANY
Alice Dabaney


NIGHT MURMUR
Robin Berol

[buryinghill2]

IDLE DICE: Rodney, Buddy

ALBANY: Leslie, Jimmy Kohn, Joanne Kovacs

[Ruby G. Weber]

IDLE DICE: Rodney Jenkins, Buddy Brown, Steve Stephens, Terry Rudd

ALBANY: Abby's answers plus RJ rode him in the Invitational once.

QUITE FLIGHT: RJ and Joan Boyce (not sure about that one)

NITE MURMUR:Gene Estep, Michele McEvoy Grubb

SUNDANCER: Jim Day, MMGrubb

BALBUCO: Conrad Homfeld, Rodney Jenkins in the US

JET RUN: Michael Matz, Fernando Senderaz (sp?)

TOUCH OF CLASS: Joe Fargis, Debbie Conner Lopez

ABDULLAH: Debbie Stephens, Conrad Homfeld

Another good one from Shorty.

[Shorty]

WHO STARTED 'EM...
NAME THE EARLIEST RIDER OR COACH OR TRAINER...
CONRAD HOMFELD
TERRY RUDD
JOE FARGIS
GEORGE H. MORRIS
DEBBIE STEPHENS
MISSY CLARK
SLOOPY
for bonus points...
WENDY WANAMAKER HENDRIKS

[Ruby G. Weber]

But I'll take a stab at it.

Conrad: someone in Texas. Orley?
Terry: Jack Trainor?
Joe: Mrs. Dillon
Debbie: Chuck Graham?
Missy: " "?
GHM: Otto Heukeroth?
Sloopy: Bernie?
Wendy Hendrix: Melvin can't remember last name

Shorty, do tell the real answers.

BTW, second rider on Quiet Flight?

[lauriep]

I thought as I typed it that it wasn't correct, should be "dd"! Is Broadway Joe correct for the horse?

Laurie

[Ruby G. Weber]

LP, not BJ. The time frame was such that C and J were no longer riding there.

[dublin]

bumpkin and I are probably the only two people on this bb who know both (1) his first rider and (2) his original show name....

(1) Gary Henley, bumpkin's wonderful trainer, who started him on his illustrious show career /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

(2) Bill Pinch - he was WHJA Champion Preliminary Jumper his first year showing, and I was lucky enough to be showing in the Pacific NW at the time and get to personally watch him jumping. He was quite something even then, before he became nationally known. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

How's that for truly trivial knowlege? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

[wtywmn4]

Dutton Emmett, Melvin Dutton. Or was that Junie who started Wendy? Violet Haines or was it John Cully for Terry? Hmmm, hunted alot...Boy these are great questions.......

[Lord Helpus]

Name 3 horses thst came out of The Pacific Northwest (other than Sun Dancer) and became nationally famous)

Name who owned and/or trained them in the Pacific Northwest before they went on the national fame.

[hifi]

Idle Dice was once a hunter found by Bernie Traurig. Rodney, than Buddy

If you can't beat 'em, try harder. And God Bless America my home sweet home!

[hifi]

Abdullah was also a dressage horse but not sure who rode him that way.

If you can't beat 'em, try harder. And God Bless America my home sweet home!

[dublin]

Lord Helpus, here are three from the stable I rode at at the time (Portland Riding Academy/Sunwood Farms): /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sly Arrival, originally owned by Robin Hansen, then sold to someone back East where he competed successfully in the junior and A/O hunter divisions. AHSA Reserve Champion Jr. Working Hunter one year in the early 1970s. Some of the people who post frequently on this topic should remember him!!

Raggedy Ann, originally owned by Nancy Kraemer and then sold to Tippy Bushkin, who showed her successfully in the junior hunters both in California and on trips back east.

The Godfather, found in a pasture by my trainer, sold to Dianne Grod who competed him very successfully in the Open Jumper divisions in California.

The well known hunter sire Truck Drivin' Man was owned by my trainer as well.

"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

[MAD]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>ALBANY, Alice Dabaney <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alice Debany rode The Natural - maybe you are thinking of Debbie Dolan riding (and owning) Albany.

Sorry, Alice never rode Albany.

[buryinghill1]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Emmet:
JET RUN: Michael Matz, Fernando Senderaz (sp?)
QUOTE]

and Leslie B. L. Howard!
I have a picture!

She RODE Jet. She didn't SHOW Jet.
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A dirty dog is a happy dog.

[buryinghill2]

I remember that picture Yellowdog. Didn't they switch while hacking, just for kicks? Someone else was in it also. Possibly Norman? Leslie is on Jet, I think Corsair is in the picture as well...

[Ruby G. Weber]

Do I remember Patty Huekeroth having Sly Arrival?

How many winning hunters can you name by the remount stallion GAME?

[buryinghill1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Abby:
Didn't they switch while hacking, just for kicks? Someone else was in it also. Possibly Norman? Leslie is on Jet, I think Corsair is in the picture as well...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Michael Matz is on Corsair, Leslie is on J.R.
Each rider has a Heineken in their hand.
/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif It was a casual hack.

A dirty dog is a happy dog.

[Kennett Square]

Patty had Sly Step not Sly Arrival.

[Shorty]

Who Started 'Em ?
Terry Rudd - Dick Atkinson
Wendy Wanamaker Hendriks - Junie Kulp
Debbie Stephens - was trained by ADOLPH MOGAVERO at one time , but Idon't know who started .


Idle Dice was bought off the racetrack by a Pittsburgh, Pa. Professional. He was sold to Libby Slaughter ( a client of Danny Lenehan) to be a field hunter. He was a little too enthusiastic for that job, and Bernie Traurig bought him.

[Lord Helpus]

Dublin,

With the exception of Truck Drivin Man who went on to fame as a stallion, I would call those horses famous West coast horses who did well when they went back East to show, not nationally famous horses. None of them were the three I was thinking of. (Although they were nice horses--- what barn did you train at?)

[wtywmn4]

Shorty, didn't Idle Dice do the hunters for awhile?

[KLG]

Bernie Traurig sold Godfather to Diane Grod

[dublin]

Lord Helpus,

I rode with Joan Kerron (now Curtin) at Portland Riding Academy/Sunwood Farms. And then subsequently with Dale and Suzie Balenseifen at Mountain Park Stables in Lake Oswego.

I know those wouldn't have been the horses you were thinking of, but it was fun knowing those particular horses did come from our barn and then did well in other parts of the country. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I definitely do remember a big chestnut horse named the Godfather and thought he had gone to Dianne Grod but I must have been hallucating, obviously /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif - or thinking of another horse by that name. My memory must have been playing tricks on me this many years later. LOL

"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

[Lord Helpus]

Dublin - Did you know Leslie Grelle when you were with Joan? Is she about your age?

PS the 3 horses I was thinking of were:

Bavaria

Devon

Double Talk

[Shorty]

Wtymn4 - You are right, Bernie Traurig did show Idle Dice as a hunter for a little bit.... Tiff named him.

[Shorty]

Now it is time for the HUNTER Riders to answer a question.

NAME TEN ITEMS WHICH WERE REQUIRED IN A CORINTHIAN/APPOINTMENTS CLASS.

You must name TEN.

[LaurieB]

Well I never rode in a Corinthian class because I was a junior on a pony but I did do lots of appointments classes. Here's what I remember:

1. sandwich case
2. sandwich in case. yes, that's a separate item--especially if you've forgotten to pack one and end up trying to fold a concession stand hot dog to fit. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
3. hunting whip
4. stock
5. canary vest
6. black jacket
7. boot straps
8. spurs
9. leather gloves (on hands unless it's raining.)
10. string gloves in girth (unless it's raining, then switch with leather gloves and pray they actually fit because you never had to wear them before /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif )

I think that's all I can remember. How'd I do Shorty?

[Kennett Square]

Don't forget the sewn in bridle, I want to say double or pelham....yes being old means forgetting somethings in the mid-late evenings. I hate to admit it but yes I do remember the. Oh and the sandwich had to be turkey, NO MAYO, just plain with the crusts trimmed....or am I now confusing this with the side saddle class????

[Finzean]

And today's youngsters think ol'GM is particular about things!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

_______________________

There is no crying in baseball!!!

[dublin]

And the little flask that went in the sandwich kit I'm pretty sure was supposed to be filled with either tea or sherry - was anything else allowed?

Did anyone here ever put anything more interesting than those two choices in their flask -- or ever have a judge actually smell or taste what you had in there?? /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

[khobstetter]

Soooooooooooo many years ago they not only did Appointments Classes, they did Ladies to Ride Appointment Classes. That gave some of us ladies additional chances to ride good hunters as the owners really wanted them to go in ALL the classes.

The flask usually should have Sherry or tea but Brandy or a "toddy" that would warm your soul when the weather got chilly was used alot. And yes, they actually did open the sandwich case and the flask. An occasional brave judge might take a pinch taste of the sandwich but several felt it was their job to make sure the "toddy" was fresh and not left over from another show!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Also, a large "safety pin" was required on the stock in case of an accident in the field the stock becomes a bandage and the pin secures it. Buff or canary breeches, FLAT bridles (no rolled, raised or fancy stiching!!), regular cavesson noseband (no dropped, figure 8 or anything else).

AND THE GIRTH ! ! Oh my don't forget the girth. A flat triple folded leather girth without elastic, no "shape" to it and the open folded part away from the front legs. Also, properly done the girth would be equal on each side of the horse...same number of holes from the top.

Oh Yeah..the bridle would be offensive if the buckles weren't the same on both sides..aligned with the eyes so you had extra room to go up if the bridle broke. (The bit was always stitched in and I believe the other buckles were an option but I could be wrong).

Properly done I think I remember they should have 36 to 42 (or something like that) braids depending on the length of the horses neck, the tail should be braided WITHOUT the end on the outside in a snail curl cause that would get caught in the brambles as you galloped through the woods..

Geez, we had a great time, sort of makes you tear up a little and realize just how much of the tradition of our sport has been lost in the name of getting the show done. I guess Appointments bacame such a bother they quit having those classes....... /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Makes one laugh and giggle with glee when you remember Diane Grod being shifted from one big horse to another and riding a bunch in the Ladies to ride.... also Lucy Stewart, Linda Hough, Diane Langer (Mitchell then) to name a couple.

Wow time flys..... bring on the advil... I get sore and tired just remembering it but it makes you sleep smiling!!!

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[Weatherford]

Saddlepads NOT allowed.

Stirrup pads NOT allowed.

Breeches with three buttons at the knee showing - strap going between the buttons.

Definitely a sewn in full bridle first choice. Then, perhaps a snaffle, then pelham. Bit and reins sewn in.

and <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Properly done I think I remember they should have 36 to 42 (or something like that) braids depending on the length of the horses neck, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You must be VERY young! it was 12 or 13 braids (or maybe 15 or 16) depending on whether or not you had a mare or gelding. (I could NEVER remember which - and 13 braids on my small pony wasn't too bad... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

[LaurieB]

This brings back so many memories that it's old picture time again. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And to go along with the topic, who recognizes the trainer that's fixing my pony's tail?

[LaurieB]

One more picture on the subject of Appointments. Who can name the show where this was taken? It was on Long Island, known for its outside course and you could take your horse swimming without leaving the grounds.

(sorry about the picture quality. It's old.)

[equitationlane]

Looks Like C W Post or North Shore.

Let us NOT forget that damn whip we had to carry, as I only had ONE sewn in bridle, a pelham. Added to the two reins and that snakey thing that wanted to come uncoiled about halfway thorugh tha course!

[equitationlane]

This post reminds me of a class years ago at Washington. Burgess Meredith needed to get all the �stuff". Ira Schulman had his tack trailer at the end of the warm up ring and was more than happy to sell him everything he needed. Except when it came to the hound couples that had to be hung from the dees on the side of the saddle (remember those?)

Not having the hound couples, Ira took two leather lead shanks, coiled them up and sent Burgess on his way. Everything was working beautifully until the last line, when the �hound couples� came uncoiled and were trailing out behind him. Not to be deterred, dear Burgess just kept on trucking and even got a call back! I think the judges just wanted to see what he was up to! Not bothering to recoil the �hound couples� he proudly trotted in. After checking all the appointments, one of the judges mentioned, �those were mighty long hound couples� to which Burgess quickly answered they were �Irish Wolfhound couples�!
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[Bumpkin]

Bavaria came after I left, but I think from Evergreen with Mike and Cathy Crooks.

Devon was at Sterling with Diane and Johnny Johnson and owned by Florence Flemming. He was ridden by different riders like Michael Patrick, and Meg Woodington. I keep thinking that Devon came from out of the state though.

The third horse, Double Talk, I do not know again after my time. Of course he could be a horse I do know but don't know a new name to.

Don't forget Olde English, a Washington bred TB. By Kaneohe Bay, owned by Woodbrook and sold to the East Coast as a USET horse.
Sue Butts rode him in the hunters out here.

Also "Gus" another Washington Bred TB by Hitter owned by Judi Greer and sold to the Busch family. I cannot recall his show name with them, but the Busch family put a full two page colour center spread on him about a year ago in COTH when he passed away.

[dublin]

LordHelpus -

Leslie Grelle must have been after my time, don't recognize that name at all. I do remember Devon and Olde English, but not those other horses that were the answer to your question. I'm just a bit too ancient, I guess! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

[Lord Helpus]

Dublin, You don't remember Bavaria? She was sold to Shanna Johnstone (Megan's mother) who was actually allowed to ride her A/O once or twice :O))) but mainly she was a champion 4' horse. They turned down $1M for her.....

And in Corinthian classes --- in NYC, do you know how hard it is to find a person in a deli in mid Manhattan to make a meat sandwich on plain bread, then cut the crusts off, then cut it diagonally twice, to form 4 triangles, then wrap it in wax paper? They think you are less crazy if you show up with a gun and try to rob them. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

As for those damn little buttons on the pants that the boot straps must go between, I had to rob buttons off my shirt sleeves and sew three of them on each leg of my canary breeches, above the top of my boots, so it looked like I had buttons on the breeches. Oh, anyone want a sewn in pelham bridle? What a waste of a good set of reins and cheekpieces. I guess that is why the shows finally just went to formal attire. The rider dresses up, but the horse doesn't have to.

As kids, my mother used to tape the hunt whip after she put the 2 curls in it and just the right length tail so we would not drop the tail and scare our ponies when jumping. Then the tape would quickly come off for the call back and appointments check.

It was fun in those days, wasn't it?

[dublin]

Nope, my showing and riding career ended in 1973, after my sophomore year of college, and I didn't even get interested in horses and the show scene again until years later, in the mid-80's. This of course tells everyone how old I really am!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

[LaurieB]

LOL, rexford! I loved the Burgess Meredith story.

We used to "wrap" our whips before we jumped. Take the thong (is that the right term?) and wrap it around and around the other piece (my brain is on total spaz about this /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif ) kind of like a maypole, then knot the end.

Hey, we were on ponies, which meant we went so fast that we were only a blur anyway. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (I swear my sister had the fastest round in the history of Upperville--the judge simply watched agog--after which our trainer said, "okay no more spurs for you even if it is appointments.")

Anyway, then we'd uncoil the whip and carry it loose when we jogged back in.

[Ruby G. Weber]

Seems the further the working horses got away from the hunt field, the more "tricks" we came up
with to help them "tolerate" all those appointments.

We would tie the hound couplings, with yarn to prevent them from banging on the horse's side. The wither pad was there but unseen. We had a limited number of sewn in bridles and of course none of them had the desired bit so...suffice it to say, lots of changing before the jog. LOL. It was actually quite comical, at times.

No one could ever find the stock tie, nor the stock pin.

We ended up carrying a trunk just for appointments.

[Shorty]

I'm, sure the real Alex Trebeck would be very proud... but there are a few more questions...
What was the difference between an Appointments and a Corinthian Class ?
If you wore a Pink Coat What else did you need to carry in your pocket ?
Who wore a top hat, derby or a hunt cap?
Who wore the ribbons down on their hard hats ?
Who wore the ribbons up on their
hard hats ?

I'll never forget the time Atrie Hawkins was walking the line at Upperville and looked in my sandwich case, asked if the sandwich was fresh ? ? When I told him it was, he walked away eating it ! I said I had another horse to ride in another division, and he said the sandwich was great & he would remember !
Oh, yes, I won the class !

Kennett Sq. Re: the pony pic. It sure looks like Junie to me .

[LaurieB]

You're right Shorty, it is Junie.

And the show in the next picture is, as Rexford guessed, North Shore.

[Ruby G. Weber]

I had defer to my fox hunting (sometimes) spouse for the answers to several of these ?'s.

Gentlemen members of the hunt wear top hats.

Ladies wear derbies.

Professionals wear hard hats with the ribbon down. Juniors, ribbon up. (?)

In the pocket of a pink coat? Nowadays, you must carry your hunting liscense. I'm curious to know what was carried yesteryear.

Not sure about the diff between Appointments and Corinthian but I think it had something to do with hunt club membership or actually having fox hunted.

But...the truth is out there.

[Shorty]

Corinthian Classes were hunter classes in which the rider had to be the member of a Recognized Hunt.
Appointments classes were open to any rider.
Both classes were judged on performance and appointments.

Riders who wore a pink coat, a dark blue or black coat which had hunting buttons and the hunts collar were required to carry a card ( in their pocket ) from the hunt stating they had earned the right to wear them.

Those classes were fun, racing around making sure you had EVERYTHING on the horse and rider !

[wtywmn4]

Or forgetting that the sandwich in your case, was from last week's show. Plus it had rained....Ah yes, those were the days /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Nothing like a fermented cheese sandwich to really pop the judge's eye.

Okay here's one.....Emmett, Shorty, I know both of you know this. What's a light weight, middle weight and heavy weight hunter? Excuse if I got the verbage wrong...

[dublin]

Lightweight hunter - up to carrying 165 lbs.
Middleweight - up to 185 lbs.
Heavyweight - up to 205 lbs.

So what happened if the rider weighed 206 lbs?? Were they then in the super heavyweight division??? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

[wtywmn4]

Dublin's right!

Good going dublin. Interesting question, probably why the divisions disappeared.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[snaffles]

A cheese sandwich was also acceptable in the sandwich case, end crusts cut off and must be wrapped in wax paper ~ No jewelry either ~

[Ruby G. Weber]

Famous horses by the stallion GAME...

Game Plan/Liza Dennehey
Super Flash/Cismont Manor winner

[wtywmn4]

Was Captain Flash by Game??

[LCasty]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by schmoe:
the horse that I was thinking of, but I guess I was under the incorrect notion that Martha and Emily Wachtel showed her when they were at Hunterdon/Beacon Hill. Oooops!

Here's another one and I am certain of this one. A small junior, chestnut gelding, who was almost equally as mean and in his later days sported a nasty looking back ankle from his run in with a vaccuum cleaner.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[LCasty]

The chestnut horse with the nasty ankle is Count Tuscan ridden by Ashley Lickle.

[Remi and me]

Is that North Shore where the Old SmithTown Hunt
Show used to be held out toward's the Hamptons or
was that North Shore Equestrian Center(formally known as Old Mill Farm)?
I think I have a picture of me and hunter stallion going over the same fence!

[Alex Trebek]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LCasty:
The chestnut horse with the nasty ankle is Count Tuscan ridden by Ashley Lickle.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Funny, I showed Count Tuscan and well remember the ankle, of course, but I don't remember him being mean at all.

[Ruby G. Weber]

You've resurfaced!
Whadya do, hire Shorty during your hiatus?

[PineTreeFarm]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Remi and me:
....
was that North Shore Equestrian Center(formally known as Old Mill Farm)?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Old Mill Farm still exists in it's original location. North Shore Equestrian center is a whole different thing at a different location.

[Remi and me]

My question still is - was the picture taken at the Old Smith town Hunt Horse show grounds out on the island? I remember the beach there across from the show grounds being very rocky and difficult to get a horse across. My old fuzzy brain can't remember if it was out in the Hamptons or not or what the grounds were called. I just remember the beach, the outside course, and that A shows were held there.

[PineTreeFarm]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Remi and me:
My question still is - was the picture taken at the Old Smith town Hunt Horse show grounds out on the island? I remember the beach there across from the show grounds being very rocky and difficult to get a horse across. My old fuzzy brain can't remember if it was out in the Hamptons or not or what the grounds were called. I just remember the beach, the outside course, and that A shows were held there.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The A show was called North Shore Horse Show. The grounds are in Stony Brook NY. The Smithtown Hunt also ran a show at the same location in the summer. North Shore Horse Show ran the week after Piping Rock, early in September.
After North Shore Horse show ceased running the grounds were used for a series of A shows run by Hugh Cassidy.
Yes, the beach is across the street.

[smc]

are you all talking about the old field show grounds?

[Remi and me]

Thanks for the clarification PTF! The old fuzzy brain kicked in when I read your answer and a lot of old, fun memories popped up. God, I'm really old! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Remi and me]

How old - one would ask. Well, I remember when Piping Rock was held at Piping Rock! /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Ruby G. Weber]

That was a fun "end of the outdoor season" circuit. C.W. Post, North Shore and Piping Rock.

[LaurieB]

I have a question for you. Is there an article about you in this week's (11/24) Blood Horse? If so, it's great.

[Alex Trebek]

Friday stumpers:

1) two a/o horses of the late '70's shown by a mid-west attorney formerly married to a horse show manager/judge.

2) one of the few juniors who showed w/Bucky Reynolds in the mid 70's and her two very successful jr. hunters.

[lauriep]

1) Maggie Moss Flynn, formerly married to Brian Flynn, with Maid of India. A little trivia on that horse: small brown mare bought at a sheriff's auction at Hans Senn's Helvetia Stables in MN. Formerly owned by Marge LeRoy, shown by her daughter Suzie as "Dominique" and sold with all of Marge's horses for back board!

Laurie

[Alex Trebek]

Correct - and wouldn't another be Mr. It?

MargaretF should come forth w/the answer to #2.

[Kennett Square]

Well I think the junior rider was Genie Grigsby and one of the horse's was Rocky Racoon but the other name is escaping me. I'm too busy thinking of who to have dinner with at the VHSA Dinner on Saturday night since Sea Urchin begged for weeks to go out with me and has since decided as of yesterday to ditch me......for a small matter of being broke!! I am bereft!!! This is almost as bad as being ditched at the Prom.

Wasn't Maggie's other horse Square Lakes?

Another trivia question....Who showed Square Lakes in the junior jumpers in the early 80's in VA with an at the time MD trainer???

[Alex Trebek]

Sheesh....amateurs! Yes, Ms. Square, you have the right person, but that horse was not nearly as successful as the other two. If you're having trouble remembering them, perhaps that's a signal you should drink orange juice only this weekend?

[Kennett Square]

Well Mr.Trebek,

I think I shall stick with juniper berries....the fermented kind.

[Ruby G. Weber]

One of Genie's horses was a rotund chestnut?

[equitationlane]

Maggie had a horse, Stranded in Iowa, but that may not have been her best one. The other person is Cathy Chase and Dr. Fuji. Ahe married Alex Gross and lives in Denver. Strangely enough, they have a family summer home on a beautiful lake in NW Iowa (do you believe it!) just around the corner from MY famlies summer home. Small world /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Alex Trebek]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emmet:
One of Genie's horses was a rotund chestnut?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, both were chestnuts.

[showjump]

Jac Quest and Claviers Choice

[wtywmn4]

Okay Alex, we're headed into the weekend, it's going to be a loooooooong wet one. We are in need of some brain work......???

[ferndale]

Mr. Trebek:

Re 1):

In addition to Maid of India, add Romparound, Leave em Laughing and Last to Leave.

An easy trivia question: who showed Leave em Laughing in the jr division?

Stranded in Iowa was actually a jumper, puchased from Leslie Burr's barn, I believe. Name two other jumpers owned and shown by MM? Hint: one was sold to a jr, the other won in the grand prix ranks on the west coast.

[ferndale]

Rexford:

I believe the Chases are someplace on Dixon Beach on West Okoboji, not too far from the Inn. I didn't realize there was a connection with h/j. Is there a Chase who still rides?

To the question: Name two riders who got their start on the INHJA circuit who are current winners in the grand prix ranks.

[equitationlane]

I can�t believe you know Okoboji!!! The Chase place is on Hayward�s Bay, just south of Omaha Point. But then again, now that I think of it they may be past the point, which would put them on Dixon Beach. Do I have a secrete Iowan here?

Cathy Chase is now Cathleen Gross from Colorado.

[wtywmn4]

Catherine Gross, not Cathy or Cathleen....Sorry, she's pretty adament about being called Catherine. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Ruby G. Weber]

Ferndale, would one of those riders of whom you speak be Todd Minikus? (Being Iowa born and bred.)

The other one...?

[Leesa]

My computer has been down, so please excuse me if this has already been posted.
Your photograph is from North Shore Horse Show. The ringside fence gives it away plus the swimming clue. I think in '69 The North Shore Horse Show was the only horse show held at the showgrounds.

[Shorty]

LaurieB - I need to see the Bloodhorse article ! Been in Fla .
Thanks, Shorty

[Shorty]

Who Rode 'Em...and in what division ?
Let's Dance
Houdini
Bandit's Bridge
Prim N Proper
Squeaky
Brandywine
Name as many riders for each as you can.

[Weatherford]

Name the Open Speed/GP horse (whose sale both the first and second time bought farms!) lent to the team and ridden by Michael Matz in the early 80's?

Prim 'n Proper - Nancy Baroody - Large Pony. The rest are hidden somewhere in the reaches of my otherwise fried brain... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (Wasn't Prim originally a Highfield's pony? As such may have originally been ridden by Thom Hardy.)

[LaurieB]

Prim 'n Proper was Deborah Bonwit Cahn's pony, later owned by Franny Zinman. She was not a Highfields pony. (Nancy Baroody had Prim's sister, Pride 'n Joy.)

Squeaky--Syndy Paul

Shorty, it's a really nice article. I hope you find a copy. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Ruby G. Weber]

Let's Dance Rodney Jenkins, Holly Fuller(?)-Regular Working Hunter
Houdini Steve Stephens-Open Jumper
Brandywine Moi!-Jr. Hunter
Bandit... Not a clue (Shorty?)

MM GP horse Chef

[JinxyFish313]

do u mean the pony or the horse? pam polk used 2 show the horse in the greens n stuff...

[Weatherford]

Sorry, LaurieB... But no one remembers Michael's mount (USET loaned horse)?

Neat story - he was bought in Ireland for what at the time was considered an "exhorbinant amount of money." I met the breeder/original owner in a Pub in Ireland last summer; he didn't WANT to sell, but really wanted to buy a farm. So, horse sold; farm bought.

After the horse had made his name with Michael, and after Bert retired, the US owner also had an opportunity to buy a farm. Horse sold; farm bought!

But no one remembers the horse? /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Shorty]

WHO RODE 'EM ?
Let's Dance - Regular working Hunter- ridden by Gene Mische
Brandywine - Regular working Hunter -ridden by Betty Jane Baldwin
Bandit's Bridge - Hunter ridden by
Gerry Goldman
Prim'n Proper - Lg. Pony hunter
Deborah Cahn.
Squeaky - The tiniest pony hunter
champion ever at Devon.
Well done Everyone !!...

[LaurieB]

Shorty, I imagine you remember this. Back in the days when Squeaky (who was 11.2) was champion at Devon, there were only small and large ponies. At Devon, the first small pony hunter class had two divisions, one for ponies 11.2 and under and the other for 11.2 to 13.0.

The 11.2 and under division usually had no more than five entries or so--as opposed to 40-50 in the other "half" of the class--and only one real contender aside from Squeaky (a pony named Vacation Time). Consequently Squeaky always got a "free" five points (the value of a blue then) to start him off. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Shorty]

Larie, I agree that SQUEAKY did not have alot of ponies to compete against, but remember, he was hardly a raving beauty or the best of movers ! So much for the model or hack.
He really had to jump his was to being champion.
Plus, finding ANYONE tiny enough to ride him was close to impossible !

[wtywmn4]

Am sitting here chuckling thinking about Squeaky and how tiny he was. But he could jump! Always thought he was one of those miniatures.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[LaurieB]

wtywmn4, you are so right. That pony could jump the moon. And Syndy just clung to him like a little monkey. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The one thing you couldn't do with Squeaky was take him out on the trails. He would go just so far, then decide it was time to go back. If his rider didn't agree, he'd put his head down, tuck it way back between his front legs and kick up his hind feet. Syndy was a good rider, but she got catapulted every time.

[LaurieB]

Does anyone remember a little black pony from the same era called Babyface? He was about 10.2 and FAT. One year his owner entered him at Devon (the lure of that "smaller" class division where he was pretty much guaranteed a ribbon.) The only problem was, you couldn't enter just one class, so he was put in the whole division.

Small ponies jumped 2'6" then and the stake class was held in the (then) Wanamaker Oval over a big course. Babyface huffed and puffed his whole way around and as he came to the last line which included a rather substantial wall, you could see the whole audience begin to hold its breath. The wall was bigger than Babyface.

That little pony never even hesitated. He galloped up to the wall, jumped up like a goat and landed on top, teetered for a moment, then jumped off the other side and continued on. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I think he got a standing ovation.

[Box-of-Rox]

laurieB
thanks for the great story! I love small little resourceful ponies. mine was always too fat to be exceptionally resourceful, but she made do!

dumb as a box of rocks, but w/ REALLY nice horses....

and btw Mr. Balch, my GPA was not made after 11/7/01. What'ya gunna do about it?

[wtywmn4]

OMG*** laurieB, I am convulsed remembering. He did get a standing ovation!! You couldn't see him on the other side when he was coming down the line. Tooo cute..Swear those guys were all the first miniatures here in the US. And we just thought they were tiny ponies... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Shorty]

NICKNAMES & KIN....
Caroline Moran's childhood nickname ?

R.J.'s Sister & brothers names ?

Betty Oare's Brother ?

Susie Schoellkopf's Sisters?

Avery Dimmig's Father's profession ?

Vince Dugan's Nickname ?

[Janet]

Betty Oare's brother is Bucky Reynolds

[Hickstead]

(MIchael Matz/USET horse) Honest Tom?

and a much ealier question re World Cup Classes - For the Moment and Lisa Jacquin?

[JustJump]

the Oagre! (sp? Ogre?)

[buryinghill1]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shorty:
?

Susie Schoellkopf's Sisters?

Grumpy
Dopey

/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

A dirty dog is a happy dog.

[buryinghill1]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hickstead:
(MIchael Matz/USET horse) Honest Tom?


NOW...Who rode Tom in the 1983 Pan Am Games (Caracas,Venezuela)???

A dirty dog is a happy dog.

[Ruby G. Weber]

Eileen, F. Larry, and Dale Jenkins.

[Alex Trebek]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ferndale:
Mr. Trebek:

An easy trivia question: who showed Leave em Laughing in the jr division?


I'll guess - Pam Carlsen?

[Alex Trebek]

1)Top bay large pony showed by Buddy Brown.

2) Rider of the pony Temujin (sp.?) and the original breeder.

[Ruby G. Weber]

Wennol Becon, or however you spell it!

[Weatherford]

Hmm, YellowDOg - I thought only Michael rode Tom - although, in 83 Michael rode Chef (the other horses were Livius (Kursinski), Boing (Burr), & Cheska (Southside). Was Tom the alternate horse?

I met his breeder/first owner who told me the story of how selling Tom allowed him to buy his farm here in Ireland. (Later he also went to the States and worked for Del Eq Ctr - went back to Ireland and is a practicing vet here).

His American owner also sold him (after the Pan Am Games) and bought a farm in PA....

[Janet]

Welland Valley Early Bird?

[buryinghill1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Weatherford:
Hmm, YellowDOg - I thought only Michael rode Tom - although, in 83 Michael rode Chef (the other horses were Livius (Kursinski), Boing (Burr), & Cheska (Southside). Was Tom the alternate horse?
....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes. Tom was the alternate. And one of the riders had to show Tom in one class because their mount was unable.
Now, the funny part is. I now have forgotten which rider already (don't snicker you old folks!). AND I WAS THERE! I think it was Donald, but I can't recall why. I remember Livius was fine all week, as was Chef. Could have been Leslie. I know Boing had a "high nail"

[LaurieB]

slightly corrected spelling... Wennol Bechan (Becky) was Buddy's bay large pony.

And Blair Pinsley rode Temujin (though am I correct in thinking that she showed him under another name?)

[Ruby G. Weber]

(pun intended). Now, who was graced with the ever smiling Yellow as an employee at those PA Games? And where were they. Weatherford ineligible for question #2. Her reference library is far too extensive.

[buryinghill2]

I think Yellow Dog was caring for Boing at the Pan Am games.....

[wtywmn4]

Patiently waiting for the answer. This is getting really good Emmett......

[buryinghill1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emmet:
(pun intended). Now, who was graced with the ever smiling Yellow as an employee at those PA Games? And where were they. Weatherford ineligible for question #2. Her reference library is far too extensive.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oooooooooo Ooooooooo
I know I know

[buryinghill1]

Damn. I wanna hear, Emmet! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Ruby G. Weber]

Should have disqualified Abby from the first part of that question. No, Yellow you are not eligible to answer a question directly related to you!

Checkered/Yellow cab!? I know. I'm reaching for that one.

Speaking of Boing...who rode him before Leslie?

[lauriep]

or am I ineligible?

Laurie

[867-5309]

LaurieP is alive!

/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

"Are you doing the litmus configuration?"
~Jonathan Mardukis~
Midnight Run

[buryinghill1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emmet:

Speaking of Boing...who rode him before Leslie?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Kevin Maloney! (Dog Patch!)
And Conrad Homfeld rode him at "indoors" when Leslie had a broken collarbone.

I won.
/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[lauriep]

Only because I asked for "permission" to answer, polite person that I am...

Grooming for Kevin...what an experience! Boing wasn't in my string, but Turf Fire was. And that's all I'm going to say about that!

Yes, Sharon, I do live, but barely. I'll be in touch with latest shortly!

Laurie

[buryinghill1]

What horse was very successful during the Olympic trials (1984) (didn't he win one?) and then foundered...
last seen wandering around Nimrod Farm...

Lauriep gets a shot at this one. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[buryinghill2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WC YellowDog:
What horse was very successful during the Olympic trials (1984) (didn't he win one?) and then foundered...
last seen wandering around Nimrod Farm...

Lauriep gets a shot at this one. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Turf Fire.

[lauriep]

YD, but I was pretty much out of the loop by '84 - newly married (BIG mistake), working for a vet, just helping out at C&J's from time to time.

So, I defer to all of you experts...

Laurie

[lauriep]

I know TF foundered (Kevin's "know-it-all" attitude taking over), I know that he was third in the President's Cup with KM, but I didn't know that he rode in the '84 trials. Why was he at Nimrod? I thought he was at Kevin's after he foundered.

Boy, was I pissed when I heard about the foundering. Kevin and I had some MAJOR fights re: feeding the horses IN MY CARE at Sandron. When he bought TF, who had horrible feet and was very hard to shoe and keep sound, he immediately wanted to make changes. I think Joe talked him out of it, but when he took the horse home, there wasn't anything we could do about it...

Laurie

[KLG]

Anne Jursinski rode him in the warm up class at Pan Am 1983 and she won

[buryinghill1]

Phew. Thanks KG.
I knew somebody other than Michael had ridden Tom - just wasn't sure who (old age kicking in)--- /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[wtywmn4]

Do you mean Anne Kursinski?

[buryinghill1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wtywmn4:
Do you mean Anne Kursinski?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm sure KLG's fingers slipped. Damn keyboards. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[lauriep]

she's just alphabetically challenged! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Laurie

[buryinghill1]

/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Not that any of you understood the joke
/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Ruby G. Weber]

ROTFLMAO, WCYD!

LP, we WERE wondering what happened to you!

[buryinghill1]

Another bump (hee hee)
Let's go with this---
Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah & Kwaanza to y'all.
Keep eating your flax seed.

[buryinghill2]

There's plenty of "bumping" around the shows already. Oh, I guess that's a different kind...

[buryinghill1]

(Pancho must be in the schooling area)

Let's get back to Trivia...

Can anybody name ONE of the horses on the first circuit tour for Windrush Farm and who were the riders???

[buryinghill2]

Riders at Windrush, Melanie and Katherine?
It's way to hard on my brain to come up with any horses, but did they have Dark Sonnet at the beginning?

[buryinghill1]

nope. one of 2. No Sonnet either.

[buryinghill2]

Who was that big brown warm blood that Katherine first showed in the Grand Prix? Did they have Samantha? I'm really grasping here..

[Ruby G. Weber]

I think they had Lyps still. And maybe Val. Ahhhh well, that's a start.

Speaking of Mellow, what was the name of her cute brown hunter who immigrated with her from Tenn.?

[buryinghill1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emmet:
I think they had Lyps still. And maybe Val. Ahhhh well, that's a start.
Speaking of Mellow, what was the name of her cute brown hunter who immigrated with her from Tenn.?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Lyps, NOPE
Val, NOPE
I forgot the hunter, but it WAS very cute...

[buryinghill1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Abby: Who was that big brown warm blood that Katherine first showed in the Grand Prix? Did they have Samantha? I'm really grasping here..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Katherine Birdsall was not one of the original 2 riders.
Big brown warmblood WAS one of the first Windrush purchases /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Anybody guess the name??
And no, not Samantha...

Abby - your memory amazes me...

[Reggie]

1) who was Ruxton and Eve Baskowitz

2) who was Lemon Springs and Sandra Caldwell (now Brown)

[lauriep]

I've been here almost daily, but those jr. and hunter questions are not my forte!

I am racking my brain on the Windrush question. I only know of Melanie there at the beginning, and I am picturing a black warmblood in prelims...

Val was never a Windrush purchase, and Lyps came later under cloak and dagger circumstances...

Who owned Windrush? And what WR groom got to go WHERE after '84 Olympics with what best friend at the WR owner's expense? (Read free trip). Laurie, you are ineligible to answer. OOOPs, that's me!

Laurie

[Ruby G. Weber]

OK. The answer to LP's ? must be Syd. I'm stumped on the Windrush ones.

To Pahrslvr...Ruxton, by Abundance eventually became a winning working hunter ridden in that divison by Charlie Weaver. EB may have, at one time owned Ruxton. EB en famile had something to do with bottling beer, I think.

Lemon Springs was a palomino hunter who Sandra showed in the A/O's in her single days.

Hunter was Bootlegger.

[lauriep]

and Marc St. James owned WR. After the Olympics, he told Syd that he would send her and a companion (yours truly) ANYWHERE she wished to go in the world as a reward for hard work(long before they went belly-up). She chose Bermuda, and in Sept. of 1984 I got an all expense paid trip to said island and $600 spending money to boot! The St.James' were always lovely to me and I am eternally greatful to Syd for taking me.

Bootlegger was Melanie's hunter and he was retired at Stillmeadow when I last saw him; I think Pam even rode him in the hunters (?) before the bad times came...

Laurie

[buryinghill1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WC YellowDog:
Can anybody name ONE of the horses on the first circuit tour for Windrush Farm and who were the riders???<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

From the first Windrush tour... Melton Mowbray (I have been told you would not remember the others).

WR's first jockettes: Melanie Smith and Ellen Raidt.

Alex... your turn...

[wtywmn4]

Calypso Emmett..... /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Tongue is firmly planted in cheek.

Bump, bump

[LCasty]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by simplyirresistable:
Quote: " And what three horses did Meredith Taylor ride in, I believe, 1994, and what ribbons did she get on each in the AHSA, the WIHS, and the Maclay? "

Hmmm... in 1994, she was second in the uset on Bob... in 1995, she won the AHSA on Keratin, and was second in the Maclay on Four Wins, and she was also second in the WIHS on Grand Finale.

She's awesome... that rider is what equitation is all about.

-Stacy<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
what about Lisa Castellucci as an equitation rider?

[Gnarly]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LCasty:
what about Lisa Castellucci as an equitation rider?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I recall the crowds at "Harrisburg" stomping (!)after a Lisa C. round. What was the name of her super duper equitation mount? (I am thinking Foreign Exchange, but maybe he was a GP horse...)

Anybody?

[Alex Trebek]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gnarly:
Quote: "Originally posted by LCasty:
what about Lisa Castellucci as an equitation rider?"

I recall the crowds at "Harrisburg" stomping (!)after a Lisa C. round. What was the name of her super duper equitation mount? (I am thinking Foreign Exchange, but maybe he was a GP horse...)

Anybody?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Touch the Sun?

[buryinghill1]

Touch The Sun was a chestnut hunter (Jamie Mann and Lisa C.) - tail never braided. The "eq" horse was a leggy brown gelding (like most of Paul Valliere's eq string).

[Ruby G. Weber]

Speaking of Touch the Sun, who else rode him, name both a male and female. Who started him?
Alex, this one should be right up your alley.

[buryinghill1]

It's GOT to be Rodney Jenkins!

[nutmeg]

Foreign Exchange did the equitation honors, followed by the idiosyncratic Diamond Exchange. Buddy rode Touch the Sun... maybe also Rosemary Free?

[Ruby G. Weber]

Hint: One of the first trainers of TTS was related to RJ.

Nutmeg, I guess BB would have ridden Touch, but that was not who I was thinking of. Think of before Touch moved to RI.

[nutmeg]

Darn it, I'm always right and yet wrong. Feeling like Al Sharpton.

[buryinghill1]

Diamond Exchange!
A good equitation horse is a wonderful thing! Glen Owen, French Leave, Grappa, Diamond Exchange, ...

[ferndale]

Emmet --

Didn't Touch the Sun start -- or at least pass through -- Chicago? I believe that Tim Sullivan and maybe Nancy Whitehead were involved in his early career.

[buryinghill2]

Touch the Sun was in Carl Knee's barn before Lisa got him. His owner was a junior rider, I can almost remember her name but not quite. I do remember what she looked like. She had red-blonde hair.

[Ruby G. Weber]

Or Abby and Ferndale are getting warmer.

Actually if Abby were to sweep some of those cobwebs from between the bars she would remember the reddish/blonde was Adriana Gallesi (AD). And yes, at that time Touch and AD were the resident red heads at Rockbottom.

Ferndale. You may be correct. I was thinking of Mark Perry, whose finger was in the pie at some time. Hence the RJ connection.

So what was RJ's first wife's name? For the Daily Double name his children from his first marriage. (Shorty ineligible.)

[Ruby G. Weber]

Who owned and showed one jumper, one hunter quite sucessfully whose names were a theme?

[LaurieB]

Wasn't RJ's first wife Patty?

I have a picture of her around here somewhere. (Poke through these bins long enough and I can find pictures of the whole 60s show scene. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

[wtywmn4]

Emmett, wasn't Touch the Sun Michelle McEvoy's jumper?

[lauriep]

First wife Patty (Perry), kids Blythe, Robert (?) and ? (another boy...)

Sundancer was Michelle's famous jumper. She had a mare that was related to him that she called Turn on the Sun (Toots).

New question: Conrad won the Medal and Maclay riding borrowed horses, a different one for each final. Name them. Extra credit if you know how old he was.

Laurie

[This message was edited by lauriep on Dec. 13, 2001 at 08:47 PM.]

[wtywmn4]

Thanks Laurie, duh get those suns mixed up. Okay Touch The Sun, ridden by Karen Healy, while at Tewkesbury Farm. Hmmm, jr rider.....???

[Lord Helpus]

Lauriep -- Don't know the horses names, but wasn't Conrad 14?

Extra credit for knowing where he won the Maclay Finals.

[LCasty]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gnarly:
Quote: "Originally posted by LCasty:
what about Lisa Castellucci as an equitation rider?"

I recall the crowds at "Harrisburg" stomping (!)after a Lisa C. round. What was the name of her super duper equitation mount? (I am thinking Foreign Exchange, but maybe he was a GP horse...)

Anybody?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[LCasty]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gnarly:
Quote: "Originally posted by LCasty:
what about Lisa Castellucci as an equitation rider?"

I recall the crowds at "Harrisburg" stomping (!)after a Lisa C. round. What was the name of her super duper equitation mount? (I am thinking Foreign Exchange, but maybe he was a GP horse...)

Anybody?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Good call - it was Foreign Exchange - one of the best eq. horses ever

[LCasty]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emmet:
Speaking of Touch the Sun, who else rode him, name both a male and female. Who started him?
Alex, this one should be right up your alley.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Adriana Galessi and Norman dellajoio

[LCasty]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Abby:
Touch the Sun was in Carl Knee's barn before Lisa got him. His owner was a junior rider, I can almost remember her name but not quite. I do remember what she looked like. She had red-blonde hair.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Adriana Galessi

[LCasty]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gnarly:
Quote: "Originally posted by LCasty:
what about Lisa Castellucci as an equitation rider?"

I recall the crowds at "Harrisburg" stomping (!)after a Lisa C. round. What was the name of her super duper equitation mount? (I am thinking Foreign Exchange, but maybe he was a GP horse...)

Anybody?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
foreign exchange is right

[lauriep]

nope, he was fifteen. At the time, he was the second youngest to win both, after GM who was 14.

Anyone know the horses? And the answer to Pam's question as to location of Maclay?

Laurie

[Ruby G. Weber]

Robert and PATRICK, twin carrot tops.

No guesses on the Rockbottom question?

[Alex Trebek]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emmet:
Robert and PATRICK, twin carrot tops.

No guesses on the Rockbottom question?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Wild guesses: Brooke Hodgson or Michelle McEvoy?

[Bumpkin]

Is by Doctrine x Finesse.
She was the last foal out of Finesse who died shortly after foaling her.

We drove the horse van to Spokane,Washington that day and picked the wee baby up and brought her back to EEC where we took turns hand feeding her on Foal Lac.
My mare Bumpkin immediately took a shine to her and I have photos of Bumpkin and her grazing in a small paddock built for her and her adopted mum. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I had the pleasure of seeing her in 1978/79 at the Royal Windsor Horse Show, England and have not heard anything more about her, or if she ever had foals herself.

I would love to hear how she did.

And Sundancer was a full brother to her. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[lauriep]

for getting two of the three right. Remember when I met them? I'll give you a while to think about it, but it WAS a long time ago...

Laurie

[Ruby G. Weber]

Due credit to LP.

Alex, right era, wrong sex. Try a male rider.

Drum roll for Alex whose thread will soon be 50 pages!!! Thanks again for the great idea.

[Alex Trebek]

James Hulick or Fred Bauer?

Emmet, Guess this would be an appropriate time to tell you I was on the same row as you at Upperville this year, a few barns down! LOL

[Ruby G. Weber]

Upperville's my fav. The only show I bring my "garden" too. LOL.

And nope, neither one. Give up yet?

[Alex Trebek]

Nope....I'll think of it, but probably at 3 a.m......Tony D'Ambrosio?

[Ruby G. Weber]

The gentleman was an owner/rider.

Could be a hint in a former question (many pages ago)about a Virginian now located in Pa.

All things being as they should be, we take notice that Alex is the first post on page 50. Shall we go for 100?

Where'd page 50 go?

[This message was edited by Emmet on Dec. 14, 2001 at 05:23 PM.]

[wtywmn4]

Buddy Brown possibly???

[Kennett Square]

How about Vince Dugan?

[Ruby G. Weber]

Will not divulge until Alex waves white flag.

[Shorty]

This one is for VERY old or those with a great memory...

Who is well-known Vet who was a groom at All-Around Farm ?
Who rode the Amateur Owner Hunter
Prescription ?

[Ruby G. Weber]

Shorty, would that be Midge? Although I don't remember her riding. And possibly doesn't qualify under the "VERY old" hint.

[wtywmn4]

Shorty, E. Barclay Rile, DVM.......All Around Farm vet???

[buryinghill1]

What class did Glandor Akai win at "Washington" and who rode him?
Happy Monday.

[showjump]

Puisance, Alexa Bell

[Ruby G. Weber]

Alex, do I see a white flag flapping in the breeze from across the mountains?

[Alex Trebek]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emmet:
Alex, do I see a white flag flapping in the breeze from across the mountains?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Much as it pains me to admit it.......the flag is up! The clue re Virginian now in Pennsylvania - are you referring to the person formerly with "your" barn who did the a/o's years ago? If so, I'm still stumped.

[buryinghill1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by showjump: Puisance, Alexa Bell<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Barney (according to my stuff here)

[Ruby G. Weber]

I believe that person moved to the farm of, drum roll...

John Holmes who had two horses back then. The hunter was Marked Card and the jumper was Stacked Deck.

[showjump]

Your right. I just remembered Alexa bought him after he had won the Puisance. I think she rode with Barney the next winter in Florida.

[buryinghill2]

I barely remember Alexa Bell. I do remember she went out with John-boy for a while...

[lauriep]

did John own Stacked Deck before or after Gigi Gaston? I am sooooo fuzzy on chronology these days!

Laurie

[MAD]

Glandor Akai! I remember when Barney brought him over from Europe. He won the GrandPrix at New York one year when I had to take care of him at the last minute (1982?) - and Alexa did buy him after that.

Anyone know what happpened to her?

[buryinghill1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MAD:
Anyone know what happpened to her?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"...
Showjumping Team Officials Announced
April 24 2001
The Equestrian Federation of Australia have announced the selection of the Team officials for Showjumping. Alexa Bell has been re-appointed as National Showjumping coach and Stephen Lamb has been re-appointed as Chef d�Equipe. Both Alexa and Stephen held these positions for the 2000 Olympic Games...."

[MAD]

Thanks - Re: Alexa...where have I been?

[Dementia 13]

LaurieP, LaurieP - I think I know one of the horses Conrad rode to one of his wins

I think it was called Golden Alibi?