"DOUBLE JEOPARDY!" - Old Horse Show Trivia

[LaurieB]

Is the ringmaster Honey Craven? I remember he did lots of the shows in the area back then.

By the way, the show in the picture was the Ravenhill Horse Show in April 1966. It was held at Ravenhill Academy (Convent of the Assumption) in Germantown/Philadelphia, PA

And the horse and rider just visible behind Terry--the roan with the wide blaze--is Wee Ken with Ricki Rothstein.

[LaurieB]

You want braids, I'll give you braids.

This is Terry's wonderful pony, Hot Shot Kid. The rider, however, is Terry's younger sister, Susie. (At least I got the hair right! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

[Jaysee]

OK, these aren't as old as some of the other triva questions, but what year did they move the Lake Placid Horse Show, and why (be specific!!!)?.... and what was the name of the show everyone used to go to on L.I. before the Hampton Classic?

[equitationlane]

I think it was the North Shore Shore Horse Show.They had GREAT /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif exhibitors parties.

[Bumpkin]

Who was Champion Jumper at both Harrisburg and Washington DC in 1966?

Hint:
This horse and rider team were also Leading International Rider and Champion International Jumper at MSG the same year.

[equitationlane]

Was it Kathy Kusner and Abarelli?

[buryinghill2]

Jaysee-
We went to a lot of shows on L.I., but the one before the Hamptons was C.W. Post.
Answer from yesterday, the horse that James Hulick won the Ox Ridge Grand Prix on was Willie Wonderful.

[Lord Helpus]

LaurieB --Now THAT's a picture of a horse show! Big tents lined up and a huge field. Just one row of cars by the tents (other cars were parked in a separate lot).

OHHHH, I am taking a trip down memory lane, with that picture! Back in a while......

Hot Shot Kid did not have the prettiest of heads, did he? He was a GOOD jumper, though, as I remember. Was he a small TB?

[Shorty]

Hot Shot Kid came from Dick Atkinson, (who later had the stable at the corner of Goshen & Providence Roads)-I think he was Terry's first trainer, before Junie Kulp at All Around Farm.
Hot Shot was a great jumper and got a very good ride - Terry was outriding all the other kids back then.

[LaurieB]

No, he did not have a pretty head (as you can see in the picture.) But he was a great jumper, and almost always placed in, or won, the hack. Also, his body was pretty well made, so if the judge could overlook the head, he got a low ribbon in the Model as well.

I doubt if he was a small TB as he stood only 13.2, amazing by today's standards where if you're not "right up to size" you're nothing.

By the time I got to All Around, Terry had moved on to horses so I never got to see her ride Hot Shot. Susie showed him quite a bit, and did well, though of course not as well as Terry. She was a phenominal rider.

[BronkBusterTX]

Male Junior jumper rider that rode Steppenwolfe and Red October.

Oh and don't forget to name his trainer.

[Ruby G. Weber]

Emmet declares ineligibility for Shorty's questions. Could be deemed insider trading.

But Geez...I can't remember the name of that oh so familiar face (ringmaster) and he did all those shows back then.

Abby...Willie Wonderful! Pretty sure he was by Setubal.

Jumper from 1966. Gustavas? Gone Flyin? Fru? Got me!

The LI circuit used to be? Post, North Shore and Piping Rock.

[Jaysee]

Well... I was referring to AHRC on Syosset. I won't ever forget the year that a lot of the tents blew down... that was scary!

If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand.....

[Jaysee]

Well... I was referring to AHRC in Syosset. I won't ever forget the year that a lot of the tents blew down... that was scary!

If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand.....

[Bumpkin]

Want a hint? It was not that horse, you got the rider correct though. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Bumpkin]

Please name the horse and the rider.
Hint, not the same combination as the International Champions.

[wtywmn4]

Bumpkin you're killing me here! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I had it on the tip of my tongue.....Not Joe Green On Shannon Castle?

Shorty, was that Honey Craven, it doesn't look like him tho...

And, the picture of Hot Shot Kid, whom we all lusted after, was this at Ox Ridge? Or the Fairfield Childrens?

Okay all you trivia monsters, do you remember the pony Coupon??????? Who was the trainer, who is still alive by the way and who was the owner...

[buryinghill2]

I will never forget the year the tents blew down at AHRC. We had upwards of thirty horses there, and shipped them all commercially to Hugh Cassidy's. Turned around the next day to go back, set up the entire barn again, and show the next day. No sleep at all for days, which was the norm back then. Emmett knows! I look back and have NO IDEA how I orchestrated all this and kept going on so little sleep.

[equitationlane]

It must have been the unforgettable Untouchable. What part of the country did he come from?

[buryinghill1]

...and Lake Placid... scary times. Tents falling down. Tornado in Detroit.
And also the flash flood of Sugarbush. Sometimes horse shows can be disaster areas, too.
A reminder folks-- when you're on the road, make sure you always have a phone number in your grooming stall/tack room or on the front of each stall. How many times have we ALL found a sick, injured, or lost horse, and no idea where it belonged or who to contact... /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
And leave out a halter and rope for each horse!

[Ruby G. Weber]

Remember the show, somehow I don't remember the tents leaving. Although I do remember them falling out of position at Lake Placid. There was also a tent and flood incident at Chagrin, circa 1969.

Back to the jumper of yore. Miss K-K-K-Kate on the beautiful chestnut Untouchable?

Speaking of indoors, does anyone remember the "Summer Place" tack room?

Here's one fer ya. Whose retirement ceremony was the direct cause of very few riders making it to what show on time to do the second year hack?

[MBS]

I remember that year the tents blew down. I was back working for Fairfield and I was driving in with Cheryl Davis when we saw the tents blowing away.

I don't remember Dana having a dog and Bruce's dog was Sam.

[buryinghill1]

Half right.
Abby and Sam.
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[Bumpkin]

Still waiting for the Jumper Champion at MSG in 1966

And Sundancer answers.


Who was 1967 AHSA Pony Grand Champion, rider and pony name please.

[Ruby G. Weber]

Driftwood/Gail Hulick?

Ch.???/Cindy Wiener? Moon Comet?

Shorty...you must know the answer to this one.

[buryinghill2]

Sam was a dog that was adopted because he looked just like a dog that Bruce had before him. She was lost, or we thought stolen, at the CW Post show that was at the track. I don't remember the exact location, it was one of the first shows I went away to. If you can remember that dog's name, I will really be impressed!!!!

[Jaysee]

Does anyone not recall the year they moved Lake Placid up the road (to the ski jump area?) in 85?? And it was all because of the Wally Byam convention that was booked at the horse show grounds... I do believe Wally Byam was the inventor of those silly looking airstreams!!!

If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand.....

[buryinghill1]

The Airstreams! Wasn't it before 1985? Seems like years ago...
I recall the average age of the airstream resident was 70+ something, and Acres Wild had a chart of "deaths during the airstream convention." It was sick (and funny). It was Felix's idea, if I recall..
/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[buryinghill2]

Anyone remember the year the airstream convention was in Tampa?

[Bumpkin]

answer is
Neat N' Tidy with James Hulick

Good guess though as
Driftwood was Reserve!!

[Lord Helpus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bumpkin:
Please name the horse and the rider.
Hint, not the same combination as the International Champions.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I have the '64 Program in front of me and I am going to use that to guess: is it:

Australis
Nanticoke
Uncle Max or
Jacks or Better?


But, if I am wrong, I will start a new question: who owned the above jumpers?


Ohhhh, looking through this 1964 National Horse Show program is great fun. For the AHSA Medal Finals, I don't have the results marked (Damn) but I do know all the entries. So my next question is ...... Name them /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Leesa]

Old Horse Shows on L.I. also should include The Vixen Horse Show.

[Shorty]

The ringmaster in the Hot Shot Kid picture is NOT Honey Craven. Someone has to know this one - he was at Devon, Harrisburg and most East Coast shows for a million years.
Emmett, you better jump in and answer some of my questions! Bonus points !

[Shorty]

Lord Heplus - Jumpers & Owners...
Australis-Danny Lopez, who now trains TB racehorses.
Nanticoke-Harry Gill
Uncle Max-Neil Shapiro,
Jacks or Better-Benny O'Meara, former blacksmith turned jumper rider.

[Jaysee]

SHorty.. is tht Robin Leach??? Just kidding, is it Adolph Mogavero?? I just don't recognize him without his little flag!!!

If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand.....

[wtywmn4]

Okay Shorty, was it Josiah Bougher, Jr.?

[Janet]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Ohhhh, looking through this 1964 National Horse Show program is great fun. For the AHSA Medal Finals, I don't have the results marked (Damn) but I do know all the entries. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Was Pam Haviland in the '64 Medal Finals? Or it might be '63.

Bonus points, what is her name now? And who does she work for?

[Bumpkin]

Ok it was Salem and Carol Hofmann

I always thought her name was spelled Hoffman!!

[Bumpkin]

Anyone care to guess?

And who was the trainer?

[dublin]

Was it Lindy Patrick, trained by Jimmy Williams?

"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

[Bumpkin]

Guess again /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Lord Helpus]

Well, I have a 1:136 chance at being right just by closing my eyes and picking a number... /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I know that "Miss Susan Bauer" was second in the Medal or Maclay, but never won.

Did "Miss Katie Monahan" ever win the Maclay?

Looks like Lindy Patrick became a "Mr." for the Maclay...(who can name the wonderful horse she rode?)

I don't know if it was 1964 or 1965, but I am going to guess that the winner of the 1964 Maclay was Lanie Schultz riding First Impression.

[Bumpkin]

You got it Pam!!!

Was Lindy riding No Commotion?

No Commotion died in 1967.

Oh forgot....and what was her trainers name and the farm name if you know it???
And I suspect you do!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[dublin]

So what finals did Lindy Patrick win?

I recall reading in a HORSES issue (which of course I can't find at the moment /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ) that she won or was second in hunt seat, saddle seat AND western finals???? Pretty awesome accomplishment! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Bumpkin]

Must have been out here Dublin.
Will try and see if it is in an old HORSES.

[Alex Trebek]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LaurieB:

And the horse and rider just visible behind Terry--the roan with the wide blaze--is Wee Ken with Ricki Rothstein.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

1) Who was the last person to show the famous Wee Ken, and who was the trainer?

2) Name the successful bay hunter shown by Terry Rudd, and by the owner in the A/O's, who now lives in Virginia.

[This message was edited by Alex Trebek on Oct. 08, 2001 at 11:20 AM.]

[Bumpkin]

Who was it and who was the trainer?

Still waiting for Sundancer answers from the younger group.


??? anytakers?????

[This message was edited by Bumpkin on Dec. 14, 2001 at 07:27 PM.]

[lauriep]

"Whose retirement...?" - Kim's Song! A legendary party, still remembered by all who were there; the WIHS was the show. And those who DID make it in were, shall we say, less than up to par?

Abby, Airstreams in Tampa, 1979, the first year I did FL with J & C, I believe!

What VERY well known jumper owner lived in and supported the industry in my home state and had horses out east too with a VERY well known trainer, and subsequently with this trainer's proteges?

Laurie

[Bumpkin]

Was the horse Hulick rode in Jumpers Quietism?
I believe he was by Set-U-Bal?

/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Ruby G. Weber]

Bumpkin...I think LP is answering ?'s.

LP. I'm disqualifying myself from your ? You answer Re: retirement, garners a golden ring.

More hints please, Alex.

[Alex Trebek]

Emmet, I'm guessing you won't guess #1, but here's a clue:

1) horse was owned, at the time, by father-in-law (now) of trainer of top small pony in Zone 3, several years ago, who was also ch. or res. at Devon, Pony Finals, etc.

2) you definitely DO know this person and horse and will guess it after some more coffee! LOL

[wtywmn4]

Okay Shorty, one last guess. Was it Wooley?

Bumpkin, or whomever, can't even remember, was the winner Michael Page?

Hmmm, Susan Burr owned & showed Wee Ken, but that may have been early on......Maureen Kelly??

[This message was edited by wtywmn4 on Oct. 08, 2001 at 11:40 AM.]

[Lord Helpus]

Lauriep

I guess I have to disqualify myself from answering your question about well known owner from your home state, etc. etc. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (or is it a trick question?)

I will answer subpart b (to the unasked question of: What trainer in Lauriep's home state handled the very famous owner's horses BEFORE they were handled by said famous national trainer and then the famous protege):

Answer: Who is Hans Senn?

And what other wonderful hunter did he develop for another client? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[lauriep]

that I wasn't clearer. I was answering Emmet and Abby who had posted two questions a page or so ago.

Laurie

[snaffles]

Would that be Norbu for Kate Butler Peterson?

KBE

[Shorty]

And the winner is !!!!! wtywmn4
Josh Bougher was the ringmaster in the Terry Rudd/Hot Shot Kid Photo.
And for bonus points... what color glasses did Judge Chris Wadsworth always wear?

[wtywmn4]

That is a toughy....Shorty. Were the lenses yellow? I keep seeing a yellow hue around his eyes... /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[Shorty]

This one was too easy for this group! Chris Wadsworth always wore yellow shooting glasses.

[Weatherford]

1963 Medal - Mary Mairs? (or was she 1960?)


Bumpkin - Carol Hofman (now Thompson - Quiet Winter Farm - and former Team rider) is not the same person as Carol HoFFman (Anne K's partner). The latter is a lot younger than the former. (And, no offense, never ever rode as well /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )


Salem was a wonderful horse, and still going strong, though down a few divisions as a schoolmaster /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif in the mid seventies, He is buried in the lovely horse graveyard at Quiet Winter Farm in Colts Neck, NJ.

[Weatherford]

HOT SHOT KID wound up at a friend of mine's farm in the 80 - at the ripe old age of 30 something. He was my friend's nephew's first pony and went foxhunting once a week on a lead line.

I watched him come in from the field one day, and he started slowly, then picked up his head and FLOATED to the barn - wow - still a champion in my opinion!

He died s few years later, and I think he was over forty!

[Weatherford]

Sundancer - can't find the question, but "who was Gene Estep?" may be the answer... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Who was the Bronze medalist (hrose & rider) in the 1974 Women's World Championships? What kind of horse was it and where did it come from? (And who owned it?)

[Weatherford]

By the way, I didn't realize it was Sally Ike who brough the saddle pads to the GOld Cup. It sounds like something she would do!! GO SALLY!!

What was her maiden name and what was her international event horse's name??

[Blue Devil]

Do you guys know of a hunter (chestnut) named All the Brass? Supposedly did very well in the 1980s or something? Maybe 70s?

**~~Emily~~** proud
member of the junior clique!
Emily@catchride.com

[Janet]

Was originally Sally Lord, and her horse's name was Evening Mail.

[Janet]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Sundancer - can't find the question, but "who was Gene Estep?" may be the answer...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know about Sundancer, but Gene Estep is the answer to at least one OTHER question on this thread.

[Weatherford]

LOL, Janet! If I could READ the rest of the thread, it would be much easier! I keep missing pages at a time!

You are right about Sally, of course!

[wtywmn4]

Em, yes All the Brass, wonderful hunter. I always think of Betty Oare's lovely Navy Commander when I hear All the Brass...Don't know why, just do.

[buryinghill2]

Em, I think I remember you asking about Brassy a long while back. All the Brass was owned by my good friend Cheryl Reed (now Fisher) when she was a junior at Fairfield. Leslie showed him some in the first years also. I don't remember where they got him from, although I wonder if it was possibly from Otis Brown, given his name. I don't think he was sired by the well known sire who's offspring all have Brass in their names. This Brassy was a quarter horse. Cheryl showed him with pretty good success for a few years. He qualified for indoors, including New York for I think two years, and got ribbons there. Cheryl had another small junior at the time, Send No Flowers. The next time I speak with Cheryl I will get more background, and post it for you. Do you have him now? He must be quite old. He was a cute little horse and I hope he is well.

[lauriep]

I believe LordHelpUs was referring to Valor, who Hans and Suzy LeRoy developed, but LordHelpUs later owned, showed to great success and retired at the Cow Palace. But Hans sure did develop Norbu also, an extremely fancy hunter!

Laurie

[Ruby G. Weber]

Night Murmur is the chestnut horse most often connected with Gene. He ended up at Rockbottom.

1974? Who was M. McEvoy and Mr. Muskie. Owned by Harmony Farm/Doc Severnson.

Alex, so far not enough coffee,LOL. Could it be you have finally stumped me.

[wtywmn4]

Emmett, are you answering a question or asking one?

This all is getting hard to follow, but way too much fun! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Bumpkin]

Jim Day bought Sundancer and showed him for the Canadian team, from Johanna Wallace Whipple, through her trainer Gary Henley.

Jim Day named him Sundancer.
Jim Day now trains racehorses in Canada.

Does anyone know Sundancer's breeding? /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Alex Trebek]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emmet:


Alex, so far not enough coffee,LOL. Could it be you have finally stumped me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

All right, all right....give up?

1) Tammy Smith and Pam Cantwell (Baker)

2) No Duplicate and Winkie Buchanan

[Alex Trebek]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alex Trebek:
Quote: "Originally posted by Lord Helpus:

But here's a new one for you Nimrod groupies: what former Nimrod junior star is now showing with Sandy Ferrell in the adults?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I don't think anyone ever got this one either - Cece Williamson.

[Remi and me]

Hey - Does anyone know what year Neil Shapiro won the Medal class at MSG? I think it was the early sixties - I think he rode Cameo in that class but having a brain cramp right now... /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[equitationlane]

I don't believe Neil ever won a Medal Finals. He did make the cut and probably got a ribbon, but didn't win.

[lauriep]

I thought Might Murmur ended up with Michelle. He was there when I left, and kind of on his downhill slide. It was he who was the cause of Georgia's broken ankle at the Gold Cup in '78. I ended up caring for Conrad's horses AND Michelle's there!

Laurie

[Ruby G. Weber]

I should have known that one, Alex! (Winkie,etc.)

Got another? Gotta work on my average, LOL!

[Alex Trebek]

LOL I KNEW you knew that one Emmet!

[Ruby G. Weber]

Name the working hunter George Morris showed in the late sixties(?) I believe the horse and rider are pictured on the jacket of his first edition.

[Alex Trebek]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emmet:
Name the working hunter George Morris showed in the late sixties(?) I believe the horse and rider are pictured on the jacket of his first edition.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Flying Colors - Mrs. Clarence Nagro

And I DO want a prize for this one Emmet! LOL

[Ruby G. Weber]

That was good. I thought I might get you on that one. Hmmm. Have to think harder to stump you, I reckon!

Will return with a stumper. LOL

[Blue Devil]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Abby:
Em, I think I remember you asking about Brassy a long while back. All the Brass was owned by my good friend Cheryl Reed (now Fisher) when she was a junior at Fairfield. Leslie showed him some in the first years also. I don't remember where they got him from, although I wonder if it was possibly from Otis Brown, given his name. I don't think he was sired by the well known sire who's offspring all have Brass in their names. This Brassy was a quarter horse. Cheryl showed him with pretty good success for a few years. He qualified for indoors, including New York for I think two years, and got ribbons there. Cheryl had another small junior at the time, Send No Flowers. The next time I speak with Cheryl I will get more background, and post it for you. Do you have him now? He must be quite old. He was a cute little horse and I hope he is well.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Brassy was retired at my barn!! Somehow he ended down here (hehe, probably b/c of Brownie, who is friends with my trainer--I dunno though actually)...he is owned by a mid-50 year old lady who walk-trots him and gives him SO many treats. He is probably still as well-groomed as he was then (she grooms him for 30+ minutes every single day!). He lost an eye due to some kind of freak accident before he was brought to my barn, but it hasn't affected him at all! In fact a few years ago (maybe 3 I guess) he was still ouch-free and trotting x-courses!! Since then he has shown some signs of aging and I don't believe he does anything but trailride (at a walk) around or munch on grass! But he's a delight...recently he left my barn to live permanently in a field down the road where he runs to his heart's delight.

The remarkable thing about Brassy was until he started being "ouchy" (he was never pushed to do anything, in fact he used to perk up when being ridden) he would find the spots, count his strides, do the change, all of this AUTOMATICALLY! He was the ultimate, ultimate trot-x king! In fact he used to canter figure-eights in his private paddock and do flying changes...!!

It's great to hear about his past! If Cheryl wants to get in contact with his current owner just for kicks, email me and I can give you her number.

**~~Emily~~** proud
member of the junior clique!
Emily@catchride.com

[Lord Helpus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

Flying Colors - Mrs. Clarence Nagro

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


OK,

Part (A) What was Mrs Clarence Nagro's name before she married Clarence and

Part (B) What is the name of his daugher (extra credit given if you can name her very fancy pony of the early 1960's)

[wtywmn4]

Okay how bout the answer to b) Sandra Nagro. But if you ask me what her married name is, I don't know...She's also a judge now..

Other dated questions with the Nagro's
a) Who was the trainer there for years?
b) What was the name of their barn?

[equitationlane]

What was the name fo the beautiful stable George really started his business, what town was it in and what was the name of the lady that owned the farm? Hint. The stable has the most beautiful rolling hills around it.

[upperco]

Tania Forman,Hill Top Stable-Sandy Lobell

[upperco]

Josh Bougher Sp?,but the NICEST man you ever met-and was a great friend to all and a real gentleman

[Lord Helpus]

Upperco,

We must know each other in our former lives. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I learned to ride at Hilltop in the 1950's. Sandy was mother's "4th daugher" and she came on all our family vacations with us. Clarence was not, how you say, focused on the needs of a young teenage girl, so mother took over that role since Sandy was best friends with my two older sisters.

PS Her very fancy pony was named Mischief and was actually a small TB. She was one of the first very type-y "ponies" and she and Carol McNamara's gray pony Jellybean traded off top ribbons for several years.

[Ruby G. Weber]

You beat me to the Nagro/Forman/Sandy answers. I too spent some time there in my youth.

GM's first fancy stable was in Millbrook at the farm of Mrs. Ripley. Can't seem to remember what it was called. More coffee!

[Alex Trebek]

1)Bay gelding successful in the juniors in the '70's in NY with Bill Cooney's former partner.

2) Bay gelding (horse) shown by top pony breeder, her daughter, and Maryann Steiert in the 70's.

[buryinghill2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alex Trebek:
Bay gelding successful in the juniors in the '70's in NY with Bill Cooney's former partner.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mr. Campinini, I remember him well!

[lauriep]

with none other than Frank Madden! Campy was such a sweetie; that's how I got to know Frank, I loved the horse!

Laurie

[Weatherford]

What were the top three breeder's of ponies (prefix names) in the 50-60's?


Speaking of Hilltop Stables, I remember showing there on one of the aforementioned ponies - even went with the breeder...

[wtywmn4]

Spent time at Hilltop myself, when Walter White was the trainer of us lesser types.

Thanks upperco, Lobel is her married name..

Weatherford, are you meaning like Lister Hall, Gwyneed, Crebilly and Miles River ponies? Sorry bout the spelling....

[This message was edited by wtywmn4 on Oct. 11, 2001 at 11:34 PM.]

[Alex Trebek]

No guesses on question #2 above?! Emmet? LOL

Here's another: prominent West Coast trainer and successful bay junior horse, both of whom trained in the 70's, in the summers, with Russ Walther

[This message was edited by Alex Trebek on Oct. 12, 2001 at 11:13 AM.]

[MAD]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Lister Hall, Gwyneed, Crebilly and Miles River ponies <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can we add FARNLEY to the list?

[Ruby G. Weber]

Highfields ponies.

I don't remember Walter White ever teaching at Hill Top. He taught at a stable in Green Village, N.J. before moving on to West Orange Riding Club. What a blast from the past. He was my first instructor.

Alex, it's on the tip of my tongue but...

[LaurieB]

For the 60s, I think the three most consistent producers of good ponies were

Gwynedd, e.g. Thorwell, Wishing Well, Oh Well, Nip 'n Tuck (all with prefixes dropped)

Highfields. e.g. Highfields Town and County, Highfields Master Thom, Highfields Unforgettable

Farnley, e.g. Farnley Nimbus, Farnley Icing, Farnley Galilee

I've never heard of Crebilly. Where were they based? Who were some of their good ponies?

[Janet]

but the prefixes I remember best are Farnley and Liseter.

[upperco]

Carlton Brooks rode with Russ in IN.

[upperco]

Crebilly was a hackney farm not hunter ponies

[equitationlane]

What was the name of the big chestnut horse Neil rode in the equitations?

[Lord Helpus]

Pony Breeders in the 1960's -- What about Tanracken Farms, Mrs. Waller? She never used a prefix that I can remember, but she had Chantain and some other really fancy stallions and bred some high quality ponies.

[equitationlane]

What about the Fox Hollow and Zim's ponies? Darn, now I remember the name of Lisa Joy Rosen's horse. Fox Hollow Singing Star.

My mother used to call me a "stair wit". That is a person that was at a party and on the stairs out of the house and remember all the witty thngs you could have said.

[LaurieB]

I was showing ponies all around the area where Tanrackin was located during the 60s. Mrs. Waller had three ponies that were being shown by Meta Boykin, all of them English imports: Pollyanna, Menlo, and Welland Valley Early Bird. I never saw any homebreds of hers anywhere, though those may have come later (produced from the mares mentioned above?)

Where did Weatherford go? Wasn't she going to give us an answer to this question? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Janet]

Well, she certainly WAS breeding them. I lived across the street, and saw the pony foals each year. But I don't remember any of them being particularly sucessful.

I know that, by the time Chantian died, she was standing a WelshxTB son of Chantain called (I think) Tom Thumb, but I don't remember who he was out of.

By the early 70s she seemed to have switched her focus from ponies to Conformation Hunters (I think one was called Royal Secret).

Shortly after I moved down to Virginia (in 1979), Susanah Schroer was showing one of Mrs. Waller's horses in the Junior Hunters at Upperville.

She is still alive and still has the horses, though I don't know if she is actively berreding now.

[This message was edited by Janet on Oct. 13, 2001 at 10:54 PM.]

[wtywmn4]

I think Weatherford may have gone to the meetings in Austin Tx. Was hoping she could fill us in. Guess we'll just have to be patient.

[Clifton]

FYI - The name of the horse owned by Mrs. Clarence Nagro and shown by George Morris was incorrectly named. The actual name was "Flying Along". Really nice horse!!

[Jody]

It wasnt' Sloppy, was is it? I thought I remember he was a medal horse before his fantastic jumper debut.

[Remi and me]

Didn't he ride the mare Cameo at the Garden in the finals? I know he won a jumper class with her
while he was there in the eq classes. /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[equitationlane]

He did ride Cameo in the Fianls one year, but his main equitation horse was a HUGE TB named Uncle Tom. I only remember this because we changed horses in ride offs quite a few times. Remember the good old days before lawsuits? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Remi and me]

Sloopy was a very nasty, bad mannered horse.
When he went to Europe he went by boat and had a special box made for him. Fantastic jumper though
but very hard to handle on the ground.
Just remembered this stuff. I don't think Neal rode him until he grew out of the eq division.
Was Jacks or Better his eq horse?

[Remi and me]

I remember her well because I rode her in Jr jumpers sometime after Neal. Also rode some horses
for Cameo's owners later on.
Talk about lawsuits! The jr fences were really different then and would never even be considered now a days.

[Weatherford]

You got all those pony prefixes AND more... I just have to go back and check my question. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Hmm, don't remember which three I was looking for - but you definitely got them!

Where were they from?

[Shorty]

SLOOPY ( who was originally called H. O. Sloopy ) was purchased as a green horse, from Bernie Traurig by Harry Gill for Rodney Jenkins to ride.
( Harry Gill owned Idle Dice at the same time.).
Patrick Butler then bought Sloopy for Steve Stephens to ride, the horse & Steve went to Gladstone for training (the way it was done in"the old days") and Neal snagged the ride.
Sloopy was always a bit rowdy. His biggest win, aside from his medal, was the Gran Prix at Aachen.

[Alex Trebek]

Don't think anyone ever answered this one.....

2) Bay gelding (horse) shown by top pony breeder, her daughter, and Maryann Steiert in the 70's.[/QUOTE]

Doogle Doogle - Mrs. Clay Camp


Name three working horses shown to numerous top wins by Patty Heuckeroth in the mid-70's.

[Lord Helpus]

Name three working horses shown to numerous top wins by Patty Heuckeroth in the mid-70's

1. Aldie Belle

Ummmmm...... Senior moment. I'll get back to you on the others. I can think of several from the 1980's, does that count?

I am also trying to think of the name of the nice man who was her major owner back then......Mr. .... His name is on the tip of my tongue.....

[Alex Trebek]

That's one, L.H. - and I know you know the other two.

Edward Bulkley? - and that should give you the name of another one! LOL

[upperco]

Who was she before she married Clay

[Lord Helpus]

#2: Boren! (yes?)

[LaurieB]

Patty Heukeroth's top working hunters:

1. Aldie Belle, owned by Mrs. Schettino (sp?) I think she was Patty's biggest client back then.

2. Li-ke, AHSA HOTY Working Hunter in maybe 1970, but not owned by Mrs. Bulkley.

I should know that #3 horse too but I'm blanking out. I remember Mrs. Bulkley with a Green Conformation horse named Sky's Mark, but having ridden him myself, I know he never made a four foot horse. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Leesa]

If you mean Mrs. Clay Camp she was Barbara Pease former winner of the AHSA Medal Finals.

[Ruby G. Weber]

Since USET is in the news so much of late...

What was Viele's "foot medicine"? What else could you always find in his trunk? What was he most afraid of?

Who "convinced" his charges to eat their straw so he could bed them on shavings and how did he do it?

How did Dennis Haley know Billy had been to ride in Dennis' absence?

[lauriep]

was whiskey, most afraid of snakes, I would be too scared to imagine what else he had in his trunk. He made good use of the whirlpool boots...

Laurie

[Ruby G. Weber]

Of course you are correct on two counts. I'm going to wait a while to divulge the rest.

[Alex Trebek]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LaurieB:
Patty Heukeroth's top working hunters:

1. Aldie Belle, owned by Mrs. Schettino (sp?) I think she was Patty's biggest client back then.

2. Li-ke, AHSA HOTY Working Hunter in maybe 1970, but not owned by Mrs. Bulkley.

I should know that #3 horse too but I'm blanking out. I remember Mrs. Bulkley with a Green Conformation horse named Sky's Mark, but having ridden him myself, I know he never made a four foot horse. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

#3 Once a King

Li-ke owned by Mrs. Guest I believe.

[Kennett Square]

When I worked for Patty, Mr. B had Sly Step and Same Game in the Greens. Both did well but were never the "big" winners like the previous ones. I will say though that Sly was quite a handful and it was always a delight to watch he and Patty play mind games with each other. Luckily for us, Patty won 98% of the time. He was a very devious wicked animal at times!!

[Lord Helpus]

KS I remember Sly well. Also Moving Target. So named because he never stood still and as Patty said "you can't hit a moving target"....:D He had a lot of talent but never went far because of his back.. He was the one she had to go to Walmart and buy K-Y Jelly by the case for (for the Ultrasound, of course. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif ). Her stories about the looks she got in the check out line were priceless.

[lauriep]

was Ronnie Silcox, who would go into one of Tommy's stalls that he was mucking, hide under the straw banked along the side, and jump out at poor Veile when he came back into the stall. How Tommy never had a heart attack is beyond me, and why he didn't figure it out, with all of us lurking around to watch is also amazing!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Laurie

[Shorty]

If you are/were from Pennsylvania..
Who rode LILLIBUCK ? There were several riders.
Who owned ALL AROUND FARM ?
Who owned HERE AND THERE FARM ?
Who Bred the GWYNEDD show ponies ?
Who rode the ORIGINAL Ilion ?

[LaurieB]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shorty:
If you are/were from Pennsylvania..
Who rode LILLIBUCK ? There were several riders.
Who owned ALL AROUND FARM ?
Who owned HERE AND THERE FARM ?
Who Bred the GWYNEDD show ponies ?
Who rode the ORIGINAL Ilion ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I lived in Pa. for five years in the sixties and I can answer some of those.

All Around's owner was Junie Kulp.

Here and There Farm (visible from All Around's ring if you were on a tall horse /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) was Jack Trainor's place.

And Violet Haines bred the Gwynedd ponies.

[LaurieB]

Make that Miss Violet Haines. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[equitationlane]

James Paxon had the rangy TB

[LaurieB]

I know there are some Pennsylvania people here who can answer this one:

What was Junie Kulp's real first name?

And where did the nickname, Junie, come from?

[wtywmn4]

Bet Shorty can answer that one laurieB. Never knew him as anything but Junie.

Here's one, what else did he do before horses, and continued to do for some time after??

Aha, the grey cells just kicked in, Milton Kulp, Jr. was Junie's given name. Phew, now I need a rest........

[Shorty]

You all are tooooo slow !
LILLIBUCK was ridden by:
Among others Barney Ward, Billy Steinkraus ) only for a cass or two) and Junie Kulp( this was the horse who fell with Junie at Harrisburg & resulted in a badly broken leg, which was later amputated as a result of the fall.).

[Shorty]

Junie Kulp worked in a stocking factory in Norristown, Pa.
He also drove a dumptruck for a local Quarry... can you imagine that one !
Before he had All Around Farm, he was in business with a well-known (now) horse owner..... GUESS WHO ?!?

[wtywmn4]

I knew that name sounded so very familiar!!! Geeeeesssssh Shorty, you are taxing these old grey cells /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Imagining Junie driving a dump truck, well am hanging onto the table. That had to be remarkable in itself.

Was it Harry Gill, Junie was in business with??

[Alex Trebek]

Friday stumper:

Top bay large pony in the AHSA in the mid 70's with several riders. Name the pony and at least 3 riders who were extremely successful on it. Clue: think wine.

[VTrider]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alex Trebek:
Clue: think wine.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dear God Alex, It's only 10AM EST...I think it's time for a BB intervention for you! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[lauriep]

but no clue as to the riders.

I did ponies for one year and that was enough!

Laurie

[Alex Trebek]

Too funny Laurie - since at least ONE of the riders you know VERY well! In fact, I almost disqualified you!

[Kennett Square]

What about the large bay that Winn Reed Alden, Katie Huber and Vanessa Haas rode....I remember it's barn name as Timmy and Pam baker trained it. Kevin Bruce and Susan Prter owned it oringinally. Wasn't that the late 70's and early 80's too?

[Alex Trebek]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kennett Square:
What about the large bay that Winn Reed Alden, Katie Huber and Vanessa Haas rode....I remember it's barn name as Timmy and Pam baker trained it. Kevin Bruce and Susan Prter owned it oringinally. Wasn't that the late 70's and early 80's too?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh KS, that's for amateurs - Dow Jones.

[showjump]

Joe Quatrocci (I know I didn't spell that right)
(early 70's)
Caroline Clark
(mid 70's)
Christine Fiore (I think she was from Tenn.)
(late 70's-early 80's)
I think they are in the correct order too.

[Alex Trebek]

Correct - you get the ginsing knives today.

But I believe C. Fiore was from Florida and rode with Christina?

[lauriep]

were (are) good friends of mine. And if you'd asked me who their junior hunters were, we'd have had a "nick." But the day I left Equinox in 1976 was the last interest I took in ponies!

Not to bring a bad subject up, but here's one which is relative to the above. What trainer was set down for "medicating" what jr. hunter in 1978?

Laurie

[Alex Trebek]

a guess: BC and Wylde April?

[jsg24]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alex Trebek:
Quote: "Originally posted by Kennett Square:
What about the large bay that Winn Reed Alden, Katie Huber and Vanessa Haas rode....I remember it's barn name as Timmy and Pam baker trained it. Kevin Bruce and Susan Prter owned it oringinally. Wasn't that the late 70's and early 80's too?"

Oh KS, that's for amateurs - Dow Jones.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Indiana Jones is the answer. Dow Jones was ridden by Winn Reid Alden and Katie Huber. Indiana Jones (Timmy) was ridden by Winn Reid Alden, Katie Huber, Vanessa Haas, Ryan Wilcoxen and is now owned by Missy Appman.

[Alex Trebek]

Yikes - you're right. I thought of that one first, but that answer seemed too obvious! Dow Jones was the predecessor pony ridden to such success by WReid.

[lauriep]

was that an answer to my question? If so, wrong, guess again!

Laurie

[Kennett Square]

Alex,

I gues it goes to show that SOME amateurs are more amateur than others.....LOL!! So there really were THREE Bay ponies with that claim to fame, and two were in the barn ou used to be associated with....

P.S. Indiana Jones was originally shown by Nicki Winters (?), her parents bought the pony for her then Winn and Katie showed it after her.

[buryinghill1]

What is Aaron Vale's first name?

[Alex Trebek]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lauriep:

Not to bring a bad subject up, but here's one which is relative to the above. What trainer was set down for "medicating" what jr. hunter in 1978?

Laurie<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Still trying to remember Laurie....Rain Forest and BC?

[Ruby G. Weber]

Yellow, got a phone call to make, be back with an answer. LOL

[buryinghill1]

You all think it's Aaron, don't ya?

Emmet - you have USED UP your lifelines! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[lauriep]

it was Katie and Halikalani. She missed getting to go to Europe in '78 because of it. Actually the horses, and Poncho, were at Gladstone...and then they weren't!

Laurie

[Alex Trebek]

Yikes, I'm getting as slow as Emmet! LOL

Okay, I promised her an easy one: bay gelding who was the ride of Marianne Steiert and Rodney.

[Ruby G. Weber]

Alex. Rodney who?

[Duffy]

Dangerfield, of course! Silly Emmet! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[buryinghill1]

Geez. go have some more cawfee /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Alex Trebek]

Harkey, Emmet.

Have some MORE coffee.

[Ruby G. Weber]

slay me!

Who was Not Always? Just kidding. He would have had to be Marianne's leadline mount.

Dunno, but what is the name of RJ's fourth child?

[Alex Trebek]

Why Lord Sutler of course.

[Ruby G. Weber]

was in the process of being a police horse by the time I became cognizant!

He was the only police horse to show in different disciplines at Devon. Conformation and mounted police horse ride!

[Indy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alex Trebek:
Why Lord Sutler of course.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You all got me totaly confused with that for a second! I thought you were answering Emmett's question of "What is the name of RJ's fourth child?". Here I am thinking, dude Lord Sutler is sure a strange name to give a kid!!!

Too much Halloween candy and not enough sleep!!!

[buryinghill1]

Matthew.

Do I win ginsu knives??? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Shorty]

Lord Sutler was not the only very nice hunter to become a Philadelphia Police Horse... Wee Salute and Wee Three are only two. I can't remember others, but I know there were more.
These horses had a very nice life- they only walked around the city for a few hours a day and the officers who got the really famous ones were very proud of their horses and knew all about their records, etc.
The police horse class used to be very popular at Devon, everyone would cheer on their old favorites.
They lived in a nice stable in Fairmount Park in the city....

[LaurieB]

I remember them. Thanks for the update, Shorty. I had no idea they became police horses, how interesting. So what happened to Wee Willie (I believe he was the first of the three "Wee's" that Wee Three was named for?)

[wtywmn4]

Wee Willie and Wee Ken

Did they too become Philadelphia police horses?

Shorty that barn still exists. People can board there, and use Fairmont Park Trails.

[Ruby G. Weber]

You are correct.

[Weatherford]

OK - what INTERNATIONAL rider has ridden on more winning Nations CUP Teams than any other in the history of the NC? How many Teams was he on to win that many?

What breed horse has won more NC classes than any other breed?

(Shorty - I know you can look these up if you are posting from NYC /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

I will admit I just learned this yesterday and was quite surprised.

[Jody]

Selle Francais?

John Wittaker for the rider, and I have no idea how many cup classes?

[Weatherford]

Sorry, Jody - wrong on both counts!

I think John Whitaker MAY have RIDDEN in the most Nations CUp classes, but not on the most winning teams.

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[ccoronios]

TB and Ian Millar??????

[Weatherford]

Right kind of horse.

Still wrong rider! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Wrong country, too!

[luv2jump]

I am so bad at trivia, but this is a great thread. Hey , does anyone remember a granprix rider, older male, from I'd say in the late 70's early 80's , who over top of all the jumps was COMPLETELY unattached to the horse except for holding the reins?? I saw him at Ox Ridge and to this day have no idea how he did it. maybe British?? He was a great crowd pleaser!!Did well too as I remember ( and that seems to be all I remember)
PS How does one get those little gremlins in your message???Thanks

[buryinghill2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by luv2jump:
I am so bad at trivia, but this is a great thread. Hey , does anyone remember a granprix rider, older male, from I'd say in the late 70's early 80's , who over top of all the jumps was COMPLETELY unattached to the horse except for holding the reins?? I saw him at Ox Ridge and to this day have no idea how he did it. maybe British?? He was a great crowd pleaser!!Did well too as I remember ( and that seems to be all I remember)
PS How does one get those little gremlins in your message???Thanks<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Kevin Bacon.

[luv2jump]

ABBEY:
THANKS!!! I had that name in the deep recesses , but then I thought , no that is the actor, must be something else. Is he still around?? Second only to watching Harry DeLayer fly around the tiny MSQ ring waving he hat after a clean round - barely attached to this runaway!!

[nutmeg]

Nations Cup: Was it Frank Chapot?

Kevin Bacon: He was in Holland last time I worked there, training and selling young horses, doing horse dentistry and making Kevin Bacon foot stuff which was wonderful. When he got bored he'd take one of the young horses out, teach it to fetch his hat, then teach it to jump a jump with the hat in its teeth before returning... even if the jump was WAY over there. He's as funny on the ground as he is in the saddle!

[Leesa]

I remember watching him also. He would also turn his horse loose in the ring with the tack still on and the horse would jump the fences around the outside if he won, once he did it at the Garden. The horse's name was Chichester and the rider was ? I want to say Kevin Bacon, but I am afraid I am thinking of that name because it is in the previous post.

[This message was edited by Leesa on Nov. 04, 2001 at 06:30 PM.]

[This message was edited by Leesa on Nov. 04, 2001 at 06:31 PM.]

[lauriep]

was Kevin Bacon's horse.

Laurie

[Lord Helpus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Weatherford:
OK - what INTERNATIONAL rider has ridden on more winning Nations CUP Teams than any other in the history of the NC? How many Teams was he on to win that many?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Why do I think it is Bill Steinkraus? Or am I just being patriotic?

[On The Bay]

I believe he's ridden on more NC teams than the Whitaker brothers. Last time I saw him ride I think the announcer said it was his 115th NC team appearance. He's probably been riding in NCs longer than many of us have been alive!

[buryinghill1]

N. Aaron Vale
(Noel)

[Weatherford]

YEA, NUTMETG!!! It was Frank - with an incredible record of 46 WINS in 85 starts!

Piero d'Inzeo (ITA) (1947-1979 OMG /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif ) is second with 42 wins in 107 starts (not as good a batting average!!!)

BILL STEINKRAUS is third with 38 wins in 87 starts.

The British Team from 1979-1993 must have been John Whitaker, David Broome, & Nick Skelton, as they are all tied at 37 wins. As has Hans Gunther Winkler.

Michael Matz has a great record of 23 wins (42), while Kathy Kusner & Mary Chapot are also tied at 22 wins. Leslie has 19 wins, Joe F has 17, and Margie & Norman each have 16 wins.

This is all from the SHOW JUMPING MEDIA GUIDE 200/2001 that Samsung released - great statistics on both NC and World Cup classes! Very much fun!

It actually list all the riders ever in NC classes, so if there is anything anyone wants to know, just write! LOL

[buryinghill1]

What rider has won the most showjumpin' Grands Prix?

(HRHwc may NOT PLAY!) /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Weatherford]

Hap Hansen, I think -

Or Rodney.

That's American rider - internationally. Hmm, not sure. (Not in this book - although, I could tell you about World Cup classes!)

[Ruby G. Weber]

Is that a "trick" question?

[buryinghill1]

What rider has won the most showjumping grands prix? Not RJ, nor Hap - good guesses both.

HRHwc may answer tomorrow if nobody guesses.

God Bless America.
/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Ruby G. Weber]

Who is Margie?

[buryinghill1]

Who is Margie?
the short one /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif


(keep guessing)

[Ruby G. Weber]

OUR second guess is Ian Miller.

[buryinghill1]

Wrong continent, eh?

keep guessing.

/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Alex Trebek]

Michael Matz

[buryinghill1]

nope

[Molly99]

here's a hint:

anyone need a new saddle?

by the way yellowdog, isn't it time for the annual bath? /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Ruby G. Weber]

Necco.

[buryinghill1]

/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Gnarly]

Darn. That was my guess!

[Weatherford]

Who has won the most World Championships? (Actually, it is a tie, but only one did it with the same horse). This is World Championships.

As long as we are on it, what Team has won the most World Championships?

[Gnarly]

Most World Champs - Germans

Most World Champs - individual, I would have to say Paul S. and Deister.

[Weatherford]

Germans is right.

Schoklemole never won the World Championships - another German won twice, as did an Italian...

/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[buryinghill1]

Norman Dello Joio

hahahahahahahahahaha /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Emmet, an elder, will know the answer. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Gnarly]

Kevin Bacon...When he got bored he'd take one of the young horses out, teach it to fetch his hat...
!!!I remember watching him teach a horse to lie down. I was a little kid and he and his mates were having a laugh about it. Took Kevin a short while until he had the horse calming lying on it's side. An amazing feat!

[Ruby G. Weber]

Winkler? D'Inzeo or however you spell it.

[fernie fox]

Pierro D'inzeyo def.incorrect spelling.Or his brother who I cannot remember his name at all.
Darn this memory loss thing.We had the bros in UK.a lot ,terriffic horsemen.Many moons ago.

[Gnarly]

I was just thinking of her horse ---
John Barleycorn was it?

What in the heck is in my coffee???????

[Dementia 13]

Raimondo D'Inzeo is the brother.

[Weatherford]

Wow, Emmet is the QUEEN of BB Old TImers' Trivia!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Raymondo d'Inzeo & Hans Gunther Winkler are right, as is the great HALLA!

OK - most wins in World Cup classes (not the finals - we can ALL answer that one /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )?

Most wins in WC classes on the SAME horse? (I'll take the top man and or woman - since they are one and two!)

[buryinghill1]

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[Weatherford]

Yup - great fun!! Wish there was an online copy...Guess that is the subject for an email to SAMSUNG!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Or maybe if EVERYONE interested wrote Samsung and requested a copy and also told them how much we LOVE the series, it might help them continue their support??!! (which, evidently, has been in jeophardy!)

[buryinghill2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gnarly:
I was just thinking of her horse ---
John Barleycorn was it?

What in the heck is in my coffee???????<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Gnarly, how did you know John Barleycorn? I took care of him a lot when Phil Ake showed him in the workings. He was a real gentleman of a horse.

[Gnarly]

That's why I was wondering what's in the coffee. What made me think of him!? He won a lot. We always jogged behind him. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I was thinking of him today, and Olivia, and Phil Ake. Didn't John Barleycorn win "everything" in his time? Maybe the song was on the radio and it sparked my memory. Who knows.

[buryinghill2]

He didn't win "everything", but he won his share. He was just a very consistent, quiet, easy guy. He showed in the amateurs as well. Actually, I think he did the juniors, equitation, regulars and amateurs during his career. You don't see that much anymore!

[luv2jump]

Olivia is at Phil Ake's barn in North Salem,NY. She is a professional and does many different disciplines- showing , driving, hunter pacing,with her clients.

[Shorty]

Harry Gill tried to claim her at the race track.
Canadian Jimmy Day bought her at the race track.
Rodney Jenkins rode her to Horse of the Year Honors.
Debbie Stephens rode her also.
Guess who.

[wtywmn4]

Hmmmmmmm, that is a good one Shorty. Not Touch of Class was it?

[Ruby G. Weber]

Market Rise?

[Shorty]

Market Rise is correct ! Emmet wins that round...

Name the Horse DEBBIE WILSON rode for her Finals Win...

[Alex Trebek]

I KNOW that one.....like Emmet, I need more coffee....Not T'aint Paste is it?

Here's another:

Top Maryland show stable in the '70's and the three trainers whose names made up the barn name.

[Kennett Square]

D E T Farm

Diane Shaw

Edgar Pagan

Tony Font

I win!!!

[Alex Trebek]

So sorry MS. Square, but that's not the one I was thinking about - go back to GO, and do NOT collect $100 (oops, wrong game!) Guess again. (hint: this group was MUCH more colorful!)

[Kennett Square]

Why is it this is the SECOND time I have provided a correct answer and you decline to recognize it?

Alex, YOU need to brush up on the trivia!!!LOL!!

[Alex Trebek]

Watch it MS. Square - go back and look at your answer - those are INITIALS - the correct answer requires NAMES! Back two spaces and pay the moderator $50!

[C-Urchn]

Kennett and Alex! You need arbitration! Following on the heels of USET, USAE...) /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Alex Trebek]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shorty:


Name the Horse DEBBIE WILSON rode for her Finals Win...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


NOT T'aint Paste.......Tergonwell!

[equitationlane]

Bernie
Thom Hardy?
Jimmy Kohn
I'm having a brain #*art right now. Need more coffee.

[lauriep]

which I can't answer right now: top private barn in CA, same time period, made up of the three kids' names whose parents owned it. And the three kids' names...

Laurie

[buryinghill1]

I can think of the SAME question for a private barn in Ohio /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
3 kids names made up the farm name...

One of the kids is now a horse-pro in Pennsylvania

[buryinghill1]

K-E-M Farm

Name all 3

[Molly99]

Yellow Dog the Ohio one is too easy!!

Court-Lin-Fra

Courtney Phibbs, Lindsay Phibbs and their Brother who doesn't ride.

[dublin]

Cristimar Farm

Chrissy
Tippy
Maria

Tippy's cute mare Raggedy Ann was originally owned by Nancy Kraemer, who rode at my barn. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Alex Trebek]

Well that only leaves the Maryland stable then..... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[dublin]

And speaking of Cristimar,

what was another California barn from around that era whose name was made up of the three daughters' names?

bumpkin, Merry, beezer, wty???

[buryinghill1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alex Trebek:
Well that only leaves the Maryland stable then..... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[MBS]

Katie, Emily, and Martha Wactell. !!!!!!!! I don't think i spelled their last name right. It doesn't look right but you know who I mean.

[buryinghill1]

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[Shorty]

Nope, DEBBIE WILSON did not ride TERGONWELL to win the finals.
HINT : It was chestnut.

[wtywmn4]

Since we seem to be hung up on Tergonwell. Who was he sold to in Calif.? And where is that person now??

[equitationlane]

Was purchased by John Baughman (sp).
Does anybody know whom the horse is by.

And, Alex, DOUBLE POINTS : Tergonwell had a full sister that also ended up in California. Name the junior rider that owned her.

[wtywmn4]

Keep going Rexford.....there's more.. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif On Tergonwell that is.

[equitationlane]

Just read my last post. Waht a dope! /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
What more would you like on Tergonwel.

My stupidity comes from going to a show, having NO grooms and my rider was sick with the flu. A day in Hell for me. /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

[Alex Trebek]

Answer to the Md. barn question that stumped poor Kennett Square:

JABOLIN FARM (JA)ck Stedding, (BO)bbie Stedding, (LIN)da Andrisani

[Shorty]

Next hint for the DEBBIE WILSON/FINALS/ NAME THE HORSE question:
It was chestnut.
It also showed as a jumper.

[wtywmn4]

Only that Lise Quintero used to own/show him. Sorry rexford, that was a crummy weekend.

[Ruby G. Weber]

drum roll!!!! I had to reach way back in the archives for this one!!!

IN MY CAP

[wtywmn4]

God Emmett, you are good!

[Lord Helpus]

Answer (sadly) to the John Bauman question of where is he now: John died --- questionable death. He was one of those people who was put on Prozac and just absolutely wigged out and committed suicide while under its influence. (So I was told by a friend of his, but it is second hand knowledge. I hope I am not spreading false information. If so, please correct me immediately and I will delete/edit this post)

Name John's wonderful junior horse who he rode to so many wins in California.