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ParadoxFarm
May. 14, 2012, 08:31 PM
This may sound strange, but do any of you have ranch-type or western horses that also jump? I love the idea of getting a real nice QH (or other breed) that is super sane and has the experience of trail riding, cow work, etc., but that I can also teach to jump for some fun. I know a lot depends on conformation, but has anyone done this?

dani0303
May. 14, 2012, 09:06 PM
I've had a lot of ranch bred QH and APHA in H/J training with me. Some of them were FABULOUS at jumping. I'll attach some pics.

Cutting bred
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/6090_1178807199100_1495740009_30500523_2891129_n.j pg


All-around APHA bred
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/5890_1208922591966_1495740009_30611539_7116342_n.j pg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/180166_1840418338965_1495740009_32134667_6365729_n .jpg

WP bred (the palo/paint was started WP)
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/2562_1097698051422_1495740009_30299958_2966576_n.j pg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/182836_1840420899029_1495740009_32134680_1540011_n .jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/31746_1473002673803_1495740009_31280286_6625065_n. jpg

Big_Tag
May. 14, 2012, 09:22 PM
Dani, that little cutting-bred is adorable!! :)

quarterhorse4me
May. 14, 2012, 09:24 PM
My appaloosa QH was great at clearing fallen trees and ditches. I always said he would have been a great hunter jumper. Many of the Appendix bred quarter horses (thoroughbred in the blood lines) make great jumpers.

TheOtherHorse
May. 14, 2012, 10:22 PM
My hubby's foundation bred paint has a lovely round jump, is very careful, and tucks her knees up so cute. We haven't done any jumping training with her, just hopping over logs and ditches on the trail, but she has natural style for sure. She seems to enjoy it too. I think I'm going to get another one like her for my next horse. :D

ParadoxFarm
May. 14, 2012, 11:51 PM
Thanks, all. And dani, thanks for the cute pics! We're any of the horses started as ranch/western horses?

Beverley
May. 14, 2012, 11:57 PM
This 15.2 hand quarter horse, King Ranch/ Skipper W breeding, foxhunted for 20 years after showing western pleasure ages 2-6 (shown here competing in a pair race, he did beat tb's over 4 mile courses at that, yes they were faster in the open, but he could pole bend in the woods!):

http://api.ning.com/files/TXfxeUQfNnSzlU1Ehi3ADWHg6x60U*TfJJiMjYwpiJU_/bev11.jpg

This grandson of Leo packed my son around, and I whipped in off of him (don't seem to have any jumping pics handy, but he won the novice at the only event I ever entered him in, in 1997, when he was 16)

http://api.ning.com/files/TXfxeUQfNnTj-HdTp49OkBM75v6g1K*ePCpmByOE2Zw_/bev10.jpg

This fellow, by Pawnee Eagle out of my grade mare (I knew her bloodlines at one time but can't recall now!), I hunted in the field, whipping in, jumped him 4'6" one day just for grins, and he once took a journalist foxhunting- in the hilltopping field. Said journalist had never ridden a horse before.

http://api.ning.com/files/TXfxeUQfNnRK-9blvi8GlE23Bbxyf9eRNRHhAhgeN60_/bev9.jpg

So, to answer your question...Yes!

Right now I have an appendix that I have NOT schooled over fences owing to some conformation issues that wouldn't hold up to a lot of jumping. But my little quarter horse mare, cutting horse lines, I have played with enough to know she'd be just as fine as the above over fences!

ParadoxFarm
May. 15, 2012, 09:50 AM
Great pics, Beverly. Thanks for sharing. I think I will look for a horse that does ranch-type work and train it to jump. But I like the idea of having a horse that has been working "out in the field" and is sane and quiet. I don't like some of those h/j horses that get all uptight if you leave the arena. :). I want to enjoy a trail ride without worrying about a spooky horse.

dani0303
May. 15, 2012, 10:29 AM
The only one of mine who was not started and worked western first was the little grey. He was afraid of cows so they sold him as a yearling as a hunter prospect.

spotnnotfarm
May. 15, 2012, 10:44 AM
[QUOTE=dani0303;6315766]

WP bred (the palo/paint was started WP)
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/2562_1097698051422_1495740009_30299958_2966576_n.j pg


Umm.....I am in love!!!!!!

OveroHunter
May. 15, 2012, 11:31 AM
My gelding is a halter bred APHA gelding. He isn't exceptional at any one thing, but is pretty good at a lot of things!

http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2384656880043029495eEMRiV
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2785124360043029495lrTBFo

ParadoxFarm
May. 15, 2012, 11:58 AM
Thanks, overohunter. Very nice. That's sort of what I want, jack of all trades, but need not be master of any one. :). Sane is key.

OveroHunter
May. 15, 2012, 12:39 PM
Thanks, overohunter. Very nice. That's sort of what I want, jack of all trades, but need not be master of any one. :). Sane is key.

That definitely describes my guy. He does great at the local shows, teaches kids to ride, and is a lot of fun for me to ride!

SherlocksPonies
May. 15, 2012, 02:03 PM
Count me in with an honest to gosh ex-ranch horse who jumps like a fool! She's very little but easily flies over 3ft jumps and loves it.

I think lots of western horses like to jump and do so fairly well, even if not quite in the form of pro hunter/jumpers! :winkgrin:

starrunner
May. 15, 2012, 03:53 PM
I have jumped a few money earning NRHA reiners and they did quite well.

A friend took a former western (reining built type, short, squat and a tank type of horse) and put her under saddle english and she did well jumping and seemed to enjoy it. She was quite athletic, so I don't think what tack she had on mattered.

ParadoxFarm
May. 15, 2012, 04:43 PM
Sounds promising. And as far as jumping, I typically do jumpers as opposed to hunters so form is not a huge criteria if they can still jump athletically. And I only do local shows. Nothing big time. Too expensive for me. :) Thanks, all!

SAcres
May. 15, 2012, 05:23 PM
I'm not sure about my horse's past (picked him up from a dealer) but his training points towards a work/ranch bred horse. He's solid, sturdy, and is 100% comfortable out of the arena.

He really can do anything. We've jumped 3 ft courses, done dressage, gone XC, trails, gaming, cattle, western pleasure, jumpers, hunters, eq. The only thing we haven't done is gone foxhunting, and that is because mr spazzy thinks he needs to buck, rear, twist, etc, when galloping in a group.

Ltc4h
May. 15, 2012, 05:34 PM
I've had 3
2 geldings both grandsons on Smart Chic Olena-1 [15 hds] is going Prelim Eventing this yr @ age 8 the other 13 yrs [14.3 hds] belongs to an amatuer family and jack of all trades. I competed him to 3'6.
Currently riding a daughter of, 15 hd 10 yr old mare Evented to training switched last yr to 4' jumpers.

SPF10
May. 15, 2012, 05:58 PM
DD has an 11 yr old, Great-Gdaughter of Doc O'Leana and Peppy San Badger, Grand Daughter of Smart Little Lena and Daughter of Smart Like Juice. Definitely cutting/reining bred she won money as a reiner. Has jumped 3' w/DD, is a training level dressage champion and got a 65 on her first 1st level test. Last year won 3rd at her first 3 day.

ParadoxFarm
May. 15, 2012, 06:16 PM
All your horses sound great. Any more pictures anyone would care to post? Doesn't have to be jump pics.

SwampYankee
May. 15, 2012, 06:37 PM
This may sound strange, but do any of you have ranch-type or western horses that also jump? I love the idea of getting a real nice QH (or other breed) that is super sane and has the experience of trail riding, cow work, etc., but that I can also teach to jump for some fun. I know a lot depends on conformation, but has anyone done this?

Absolutely! My old 3-Bars boy did it all; hunters, dressage, sidesaddle, ended up eventing Training until he was 21. Breed means a lot less than conformational suitability and the horse's enjoyment in doing it. If it's a fit, you'll know. If it's not, he'll tell you that, too.

ParadoxFarm
May. 16, 2012, 09:27 AM
Thanks, swampyankee. Yeah, I'm not so much concerned with breed. I know I can go out and easily find a qh who does HUS, jumping. What I really want is one who is already trained for ranch-type work. I want that background. A jack of all trades would be great. :). I wanted to see if anyone has somewhat converted one of these ranch horses. I guess converted is not the best word, but you know what I mean.

Bluey
May. 16, 2012, 09:40 AM
Thanks, swampyankee. Yeah, I'm not so much concerned with breed. I know I can go out and easily find a qh who does HUS, jumping. What I really want is one who is already trained for ranch-type work. I want that background. A jack of all trades would be great. :). I wanted to see if anyone has somewhat converted one of these ranch horses. I guess converted is not the best word, but you know what I mean.

We did that for several years, started colts, some we ran, then when they came back we worked cattle, the bigger ones with the better gaits we retrained to jump some and sold to a barn in PA, that would take as many as we had and never had enough.
They sold them for fox hunting, most of them and we would get calls from those that bought them wanting more like them.

You have to know what you want in a horse to see if it fits for whatever task you are aiming it for.

I would say that about one in three OTTBs were fair on cattle and good jumper potential, while more like one in six OTQHs were, mostly because of size or gait.
That was before all the little short cutting bred quarter horses became so popular, when quarter horses had more size/plain gaits, no peanut rollers, no overly muscled halter giants, etc. in them.
We didn't have today's extremes.

RacetrackReject
May. 16, 2012, 10:00 AM
I don't know their lines, but I rode a QH named Savannah Cowboy that was a great little jumper. People would see him poking along on the flat (previous western show horse) and think there was no way he could jump, but when he did jump, people were gobsmacked. There was also a QH named Kamakazi Ed (spelling might be off) that evented at our barn and did well. Then I had a little stock horse SKippahotrodderpep that was an eventer too and a tidy little jumper that came from the same barn. Actually, we had tons more QHs at that barn and they pretty much all started western before my trainer picked them up and started eventing them.

Bluey
May. 16, 2012, 10:36 AM
I don't know their lines, but I rode a QH named Savannah Cowboy that was a great little jumper. People would see him poking along on the flat (previous western show horse) and think there was no way he could jump, but when he did jump, people were gobsmacked. There was also a QH named Kamakazi Ed (spelling might be off) that evented at our barn and did well. Then I had a little stock horse SKippahotrodderpep that was an eventer too and a tidy little jumper that came from the same barn. Actually, we had tons more QHs at that barn and they pretty much all started western before my trainer picked them up and started eventing them.

Our last stallion was out of a Savannah Jr daughter and his foals were good movers and good jumping prospects:

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/savannah+jr

Those Everett Jr TB horses, crossed with older quarter horse lines, generally looked like quarter horses but moved more forward and fluidly than you would think looking at them.

SwampYankee
May. 16, 2012, 12:39 PM
Now that you mention it, my teacher/mentor/boss growing up always told me, "Buy a horse who's been Western-broke FIRST and then teach him to jump. He'll have better balance than all the others." I have found it to be TRUE! :cool:

Nootka
May. 16, 2012, 12:54 PM
I had a colt that I wanted to stand as a stallion but didn't make the cut at the end (or he did get cut.. however you look at it ;) He matured to only 14.3 and was sold to a JR. I have lost track of him but would love to know where he is. His name was Dashin Spot of Cash (aka Kodi)

He was out of a big time barrel racing mare (by Dash for Cash) and by a reining stallion Cardigan Man. Kodi had cow in him and was cutting them in the field when he was a weanling....lol.

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/1156465244056914887keqQZc

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/1273855516056914887uvRXEK

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/1273855536056914887uZInzn

RougeEmpire
May. 16, 2012, 01:36 PM
I LOVE throwing a jumping saddle on a stock horse! They make BRILLIANT pony jumpers too!

ParadoxFarm
May. 16, 2012, 02:29 PM
This has been a great thread. Nootka, love the pics. What a cutey.

Swamp Yankee, I like that thought. It was just at theory to me, but nice to hear a trainer saying that. :)

OveroHunter
May. 16, 2012, 05:00 PM
Here is an adorable little QH mare we sold a few years ago:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.577353925990.2326539.4923850&type=3#!/photo.php?fbid=590254348440&set=a.577353925990.2326539.4923850&type=3&theater

She schooled 3'6 with ease and was so much fun. For me, she is definitely the one that got away :no:

As far as bloodlines, I have had great luck with Scotch Bar Time bred horses in the hunter/jumper ring!

ParadoxFarm
May. 16, 2012, 06:06 PM
What a great jumper, Overohunter! Super cute. I want a qh now. :)

OveroHunter
May. 17, 2012, 09:16 AM
What a great jumper, Overohunter! Super cute. I want a qh now. :)

QHs and Paints are the best! I actually semi stalked the girl we sold her to and tried to convince her to sell me back to me :lol: Hopefully we'll have another gem like her come through again :yes:

ParadoxFarm
May. 17, 2012, 11:30 AM
I did have one QH (actually registered Paint) horse in my time. He was super cute. I took him over little 2' fences one day and he popped over them like they were nothing new. Love that attitude. He was not always sound though. He ended up going back to his previous owner (I cried), but I really liked him. He was black with four whites. Super cute.

*** Okay, I started writing this and decided to check out one of my videos of him. Makes me really miss this horse. I got him as a confidence builder when I had issues with my warmboods. This guy was a pony horse at the track, and not used to arena work. But he was a trooper. If he was sound I would have kept him. Here is the video, but don't be compelled to watch it all. It's sort of long, and has music. :) Toward the end you can see where I took him over a crossrail which was the first time I had ever jumped him over anything. I also took him an an ACTHA ride and he was great. I actually did ride western in that one. I want another horse like him, but with the ranch work experience as well.

http://youtu.be/DlBjNLQGWdY

1ofEach
May. 17, 2012, 12:32 PM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Rugged Lark. Now there was a QH that was a master of many trades.

http://www.bobettfarm.com/content/view/18/31/

They also start their horses western and then sell off to english disciplines.

bugsynskeeter
May. 17, 2012, 12:45 PM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Rugged Lark. Now there was a QH that was a master of many trades.

http://www.bobettfarm.com/content/view/18/31/

They also start their horses western and then sell off to english disciplines.

While I love Rugged Lark and work with a son of his, I wouldn't really consider him a ranch-type bred. He is 1/2 TB after all. His offspring tend to do much more in the english arena than the western, although you will find an occasional Lark bred horse in the reining.

OveroHunter
May. 17, 2012, 12:50 PM
I did have one QH (actually registered Paint) horse in my time. He was super cute. I took him over little 2' fences one day and he popped over them like they were nothing new. Love that attitude. He was not always sound though. He ended up going back to his previous owner (I cried), but I really liked him. He was black with four whites. Super cute.

*** Okay, I started writing this and decided to check out one of my videos of him. Makes me really miss this horse. I got him as a confidence builder when I had issues with my warmboods. This guy was a pony horse at the track, and not used to arena work. But he was a trooper. If he was sound I would have kept him. Here is the video, but don't be compelled to watch it all. It's sort of long, and has music. :) Toward the end you can see where I took him over a crossrail which was the first time I had ever jumped him over anything. I also took him an an ACTHA ride and he was great. I actually did ride western in that one. I want another horse like him, but with the ranch work experience as well.

http://youtu.be/DlBjNLQGWdY

Your video is private, but he sounds like a great horse!

ParadoxFarm
May. 17, 2012, 02:33 PM
Sorry, I fixed the video settings. He was just a cutey. :)

Yes, I wasn't thinking of Rugged Lark as ranch type. Not that he's not a fabulous horse!

Lady Counselor
May. 17, 2012, 03:09 PM
I have a Two Eyed Jack daughter (cowhorse lines) who has jumped out of her paddock before, clearing a 5' fence. :eek:
She's very athletic and cat-like quick, plus has a great brain.
I also feel that some of the Appendix QH's can be super all around horses. You can get the best of both worlds.

OveroHunter
May. 17, 2012, 04:19 PM
I have a Two Eyed Jack daughter (cowhorse lines) who has jumped out of her paddock before, clearing a 5' fence. :eek:
She's very athletic and cat-like quick, plus has a great brain.
I also feel that some of the Appendix QH's can be super all around horses. You can get the best of both worlds.

We actually added a TB stallion to our barn for this very reason: http://www.pedigreequery.com/ok+punch

He's drop dead gorgeous with very correct conformation and his bloodlines are great for hunters :) His first crop will be next year and we are hoping for some sporty Appendixes!

Outfxed
May. 18, 2012, 06:11 AM
I have an Oklahoma ranch bred, blue roan QH who originally cut cattle, team roped and never saw an English saddle before he was 6. He now foxhunts and snaps his knees over a fence with the best of them.

I still ride him Western on and off and love getting my cowgirl on!

1ofEach
May. 18, 2012, 08:46 AM
The OP asked for ranch-type or western horses, not specifically ranch-bred. That is why I mentioned Rugged Lark. Rugged Lark was an all-around type of horse, but he was best in reining.